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7:00 PM
> [C99: 6.7.8/21]: If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than there are elements or members of an aggregate, or fewer characters in a string literal used to initialize an array of known size than there are elements in the array, the remainder of the aggregate shall be initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static storage duration.
Same wording as in C++ /cc @milleniumbug
 
Found stackoverflow.com/questions/17589533/… which says it's not valid in C
 
@sehe Oh jesus, really? "shut up rightfold" is not only just being playful with him within the established parameters of our relationship, but it is a borderline meme in here. It does not warrant your high-and-mighty victim-empowering rant. Just fucking plonk me already seriously
 
I will. Glad you concur.
 
but you'd better plonk Rapptz too and give him the same obnoxious "telling off"
Jun 16 '14 at 13:30, by Rapptz
shut up rightfold
 
Well, right now I'm trying to mix up a "Szegedinský Guláš" from the ingredients I have at hand. I'll let you know if it was tasty or not ...
 
7:02 PM
@Blob alright I'll keep hunting for wording
actually I suppose I don't need to since the grammar is right there
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Interesting. My answer was what I've seen while browsing SO. Maybe it was wrong after all.
 
@milleniumbug No I was wrong Blob pointed it out - the grammar is different
Weird as I've been using it in my own C lately without warning or error -.-
if I don't eat soon I'm going to run out of pub time
 
Then it's interesting how on Coliru it doesn't show any warnings
and the answer contains actual gcc warning
maybe it's a regression
 
mebe
C11 may have loosened it I guess
I don't have a copy of C11
 
Oh I see now - your code compiles according to GNU impl (no -std=cXX switch)
 
7:07 PM
right time for a smoke to rid myself of the stench of hypocritical passive-aggressive bullies spoiling for any opportunity they can find to make themselves look smart and well-to-do
and some foooooooooooooooooooods
chicken kiev, anyone?
 
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@Blob Good thing nobody gives a shit about C.
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@рытфолд you changed your avatar
 
I've had to, lately :(
and I've gotten myself stuck in the quagmire of UB and stack overflows and heap mangling or whatever without a debugger :(
 
user1804599
Good observation.
 
7:10 PM
although at this point I'm glad to say I am mostly blaming third-party libraries for it
probably written by Polish girls. that lot are everywhere.....
 
@sehe Time to learn Rust!
 
man gnome nautilus is so annoying
remember when gnome was good
 
@milleniumbug well, heck
I do find that kinda crap, mostly for the reasons outlined in my answer to the C++ question
 
user1804599
 
that's no launch
 
@LucDanton Mmm. Is it worth it :)
 
what rocket are they launching
 
@sehe Well the room is very peaceful. And roomy.
 
Oh. That way.
 
7:17 PM
Finally managed to convince Duplicati to exclude files I told it to exclude
S3 backups yey
 
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@Pris some climate crap
 
user1804599
Not really interesting, but the view is nice.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh. Cool. I've never seen this "meme". Anyhoops, I've seen you make similar mistakes on many occasions - where you misjudged a situation badly and jump into a fury.
To me it seems you're just very easily annoyed and you love to take each opportunity to point out how dumb people are being. I'd wager that Rightfold had posted the "CONTRADICTION DISCOVERED" thing as a joke. Also "Quit blaming everyone else for your abject failure.".
Don't be surprised people getting occasionally miffed if you make a habit of going from 0 to 100 degrees of fuming disdain.
At this opportunity I realize how remarkable we could find the fact that Puppy appears to almost completely have shed this habit of taking bait/jumping at mistakes. I think I never gave that due credit - consciously anyway. Cheers, @Pup
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user1804599
std::string function() {
    return "Hello, this is function.";
}
function(); // function call
 
woof
 
7:22 PM
@sehe Has he? I get more the impression he’s busier working.
 
Ell
woof
 
user1804599
@sehe Of course it was a joke.
 
@LucDanton Oh. I'd consider the habit gone for about a year before that, at least
 
user1804599
There is no such thing as "posted in Lounge<C++> but not a joke."
 
@рытфолд You must have worn an evil grin with all the turmoil that LRiO kicked up
 
7:22 PM
@LucDanton I actually have. You, I seem to recall, were not around much at the time, but it COINCIDENTALLY happened to start at, I dunno, about the time that I gained DRUGS.
 
user1804599
Except for my something-or-other, which is quite serious.
 
@sehe Was it around the time he got his meds?
 
user1804599
@sehe I have that troll plonked so I don't.
 
user1804599
I occasionally take a look at the transcript.
 
@Puppy I’m here more often than I engage in discussion.
 
7:23 PM
I know, but I seem to recall that you got hit by a bus for a while in general
 
@Borgleader I'm not sure. Could be. I'd not suggest this causation though :) It could be age. Or just wisdom. Perhaps it's since he stopped breaking SHA2
 
anyway all I'm saying is that he's far from the only Lounger to point out that I'm a lot less savage now
 
@LucDanton I'm still curious why you plonked me ages ago... Oh well, some mysteries are best left undiscovered i guess
 
Drugs are miracle workers
 
user1804599
I need drugs.
 
7:24 PM
@Borgleader Drugs.
 
user1804599
Can't grow boobs without drugs.
 
Puppy is kinda nice these days
if that's what you lot are talking about
 
am-i-trippy-line
 
yes I am fucking trippy
 
7:25 PM
@рытфолд Droobs
 
@Puppy If it comes with a prescription, those are meds in my book.
 
they're all drugs.
 
user1804599
> Definition of droob in English:
NOUN

Australian informal
An unprepossessing or contemptible person.
 
the ones with a prescription are just the ones you should take.
 
Puppy's kinda changed from proto-Bartek to proto-Cat :D
 
7:26 PM
droob dweeb dork
which insult is best
 
du bist doof
 
doofus
 
@Pris I've never seen any of them actually being used to insult someone.
 
Can you buy a domain forever?
 
user1804599
@Pris "tomalak"
 
Ell
7:27 PM
@Jefffrey nein
I don't think
 
user1804599
No.
 
I saw domains on sale for $2.000 and they say it's forever
 
user1804599
Someone can always buy it over.
 
I can buy stackoverflow.com?
 
user1804599
No; you're too poor for that.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit πάντα ῥεῖ
 
@рытфолд ;p
 
user1804599
But if you have enough money you can sure buy stackoverflow.com.
 
@рытфолд oh noes don't be a "bully" you'll get told off by the elite
 
Where does it say "forever"
 
user1804599
7:28 PM
Unlike popular belief money can buy everything.
 
Money can't buy love though
it can buy a reasonable facsimile
 
@CatPlusPlus it doesn't say $x per year
 
user1804599
And everything and everyone is corrupt.
 
@Jefffrey They're not a registrar
 
so how many times do I have to spend $2000? by default I assume it's una tantum
 
7:29 PM
Kids these days.
 
if money can't buy happiness I guess I'll have to rent it
 
user1804599
> return any domain within 30 days
30 day satisfaction guarantee
 
You pay that to get the domain and then you pay normal rate with the registrar
 
Like if they say that a coca-cola costs $3, then I assume it's una tantum
 
user1804599
fuckers, so when I'm not guaranteed to be satisfied anymore I also can't return it anymore
 
7:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus oh I see
 
What makes a domain "premium"?
 
user1804599
the word "premium"
 
@Blob Demand.
 
@JerryCoffin I don't see why "Bestemmia.com" is that attractive of a name.
 
@рытфолд You seem to have mixed up the syntax. Description goes first, in the square brackets, and link last, in the parentheses.
 
7:32 PM
why would someone write a project in 2014 that doesnt use c++11
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow indeed.
 
Because there's better languages
 
@Pris Because they're using MSVC
 
@Pris Because they want to use Haskell? Of maybe the're just idiots and use Java.
 
7:33 PM
@CatPlusPlus I think he was assuming that they were in C++.
 
let me rephrase that; they're using c++
just not c++11
 
TRWTF is ColdFusion
 
@Borgleader MSVC has all the important C++11 features.
 
@JerryCoffin That should cover all cases!
 
7:33 PM
 
user1804599
> E:/wwwroot/hugeDomains-4/domain_search_v3.cfm
 
user1804599
lol windows
 
got TWO chicken kievs cooking
hope you're jealous
 
(You're not an idiot btw., just used that to emphasize that the precise name doesn't really matter)
 
@LucDanton Well, I hear a few people also use Perl. Not sure why or what for though.
 
7:34 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You enslaved chicken to do your cooking? Wow.
 
@рытфолд haha
 
user1804599
Perl is great.
 
@Columbo see, if you insert something bad that you should not say it breaks
 
@Columbo He is an idiot, but it's incidental.
 
user1804599
Tomorrow my Perl book will arrive.
 
7:34 PM
@FredOverflow yeah
 
@рытфолд Which Perl version does it cover?
 
@рытфолд See what I mean?
 
@FredOverflow I promised them more injections of garlic butter if they do their job properly
ITT chicken == Jem'Hadar
 
@Jefffrey Why should we not say "Ebola"? Or does that appertain to another rule?
 
@FredOverflow Perl hipster 6, I'm sure.
 
7:35 PM
@JerryCoffin Because Zoidberg.
 
@Columbo because it's a terrible thing to say
 
> D:/Internet/hugeDomains-4/domain_search_v3.cfm
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow somewhere between Perl 5.14 and Perl 5.18.
 
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I think Perl 5.16.
 
@JerryCoffin Real men use Wide.
 
7:35 PM
@Puppy I'm still waiting for it to be able to compile ogonek, and AFAIK it still can't.
 
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Good thing I'm not a real man.
 
Real men are Wide because they drink so much ale.
 
> ColdFusion Markup Language
 
@Puppy I always though "real men" were a myth. Thanks for confirming.
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Ebola-chan so kawaii.
 
7:36 PM
Cold fusion is a myth anyway
 
How many pages does that book have, 100000?
 
@JerryCoffin Are you saying that Andy Prowl is a myth?
 
wide is a myth
 
Andy Prowl is a real man?
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus Taschenbuch: 314 Seiten
 
7:37 PM
@Puppy Yes. I've seen him.
 
All a'prowlin', I bet.
 
you've seen him and therefore he's a myth?
 
ITT Andy Prowl myth status confirmed
 
Wide is a real Andy Prowl?
 
@Puppy Perhaps a myth. Perhaps just mythtaken.
 
7:37 PM
gaaaasp the documentation actually kinda works? oh boy
 
user1804599
What's with Andy?
 
 
I ran out of food.
 
fascinating
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes My chickens are busy, else I'd have them whip something up for you.
 
7:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes an optimist would say "I have a headstart on my weight loss plan"
 
user1804599
Buy thousands of military rations in bulk. Never run out of food.
 
Weight loss?
I have thin privilege dude.
 
I think Pris is suggesting that you would lose weight if you did not eat ever again.
 
I need to gain weight.
 
You'd best eat then!
 
user1804599
7:40 PM
Stop pooping.
 
Ell
I wish I needed to gain weight
 
skinny people hi5 im absurdly underweight
 
I'm genetically predisposed to being diminuitive in terms of bulk
 
I hate almost nothing for four days.
 
I hate almost everything for four days. Frequently.
 
user1804599
7:41 PM
I hate almost everything.
 
Ell
I'm unabsurdly overweight
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes =/
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes get some faggots down you
 
7:42 PM
Now, three days later, I finally ran out of food.
 
user1804599
The dining philosophers problem wasn't solved very well and now he's starving.
 
You ran out of food by not eating anything?
 
user1804599
almost nothing doesn't imply nothing
 
Friday and Saturday I've been eating lots.
 
@Pris have you used it?
 
7:43 PM
@sehe I compiled it and it works. It looks pretty fly, almost identical to QtQuick
 
Mmm. The result or the API?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've heard of having a girl jump out of a cake, but not of having a robot run out of one (or any other kind of food).
 
The result. API-wise, they claim to have C++, JS, JSON for static layouts
 
user1804599
> Eating is not limited by the remaining amounts of spaghetti or stomach space; an infinite supply is assumed.
 
user1804599
7:45 PM
Sounds good.
 
The JS and JSON looks similar to QML. QtQuick doesn't really have a decent C++ API, so can't really compare that.
 
@рытфолд Don't do philosophers. They're bad metaphors for program actors
 
user1804599
I want to implement a solution to the problem one day.
 
user1804599
But it's mind-cracking.
 
user1804599
It's so incredibly difficult to come up with one.
 
7:46 PM
The only problem about Dining Philosophers is how boring they are.
 
heh
@wilx too long
tl;dw
 
I'm trying to decide whether or not to use this or continue rolling my own thing. DALI looks really pro but its almost comically large (built to a shared lib of like 140mb for the core... and apparently without debugging symbols, no idea how that happens). It also doesn't seem to use C++11 and ... yeah. I'm terrible at making decisions like this.
 
lol oh noes, a few megabytes...
 
@Puppy I want to create an lib I can distribute with mobile apps
 
140MB is not "oh noes"
 
7:49 PM
well there's your first mistake
 
elaborate?
 
@FredOverflow They don't only dine, IIRC
@Puppy 140mb is mcuh, without debug symbols
 
Ugh... there are also a bunch of weird decisions with this lib... they link to GPL libs even though the entire point of creating the library is presumably to avoid using Qt. Then there's some serious NIH too because all the basic math stuff has been recreated. Why would you redo Vectors and Matrices for the billionth time when stuff like glm exists?
 
@Pris He's trolling you.
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow I wish my life consisted solely of eating and thinking.
 
7:52 PM
What's stopping you from realizing that dream?
 
user1804599
Although I don't like sharing forks.
 
Also, who wants to eat with just 2 forks and nothing else?
Sometimes you want a spoon or a knife.
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow Eating costs money and thinking doesn't raise any money.
 
thinking without creating is torture tho
 
@рытфолд You should become a researcher like Simon Peyton-Jones.
He gets paid to think and design languages.
Right up your alley.
Or you could become a farmer and spend all day thinking about how to optimize farming.
 
user1804599
7:54 PM
How does his employer know SPJ isn't slacking off?
 
Then eating is "free".
Because SPJ delivers.
Haskell, Transactional Memory, you name it.
 
user1804599
Massively parallel farm.
 
user1804599
I could become a server farmer.
 
frankly I'd be pretty embarassed to have invented Haskell
 
@рытфолд fork them
 
user1804599
7:55 PM
I should become a porn star.
 
user1804599
> How do you empty a swimming pool quickly? Answer: EXPLOSIVES!
 
@рытфолд your name would be righthole
 
@Puppy You gotta be kidding. Haskell is one oft most influental languages ever. C# 3.0 is heavily based upon ideas from Haskell.
 
user1804599
Influenzal languages.
 
Is that what people mean when they say "Language XY is cool?"
 
user1804599
7:56 PM
I want a job with little responsibility and lots of free time.
 
if by "heavily based upon" you mean "did all of the real work to make them usable", then yes.
 
user1804599
But those jobs tend not to pay well.
 
@рытфолд You want to be unemployed then.
 
@FredOverflow You mean .NET Framework 3.5? Because LINQ (the syntax sugar) is mostly a gimmick that flopped
 
@рытфолд become a sys admin
 
user1804599
7:57 PM
> little responsibility
 
@рытфолд And plenty of money I guess
 
@sehe Well, if you say so... I'm not a C# expert.
 
@рытфолд Being rich
 
@рытфолд You should marry a gay millionaire who has a thing for nerds!
Can you cook?
 
user1804599
No.
 
7:58 PM
:D sorry
 
Learn to cook then. I've heard there are cookbooks that are not programming languages cookbooks.
@AndyProwl I found it hilarious.
 
@FredOverflow neat
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow Such as this one? pragprog.com/book/dhwcr/cucumber-recipes
 
@FredOverflow I never know if I'm crossing the line or not. I don't even know if there is a line.
 
~My chickens have completed their task.
 
user1804599
7:59 PM
For me there is no line.
 
user1804599
I am used to everything.
 
All right, good to know :)
 
@AndyProwl content? missed it
 
@Blob Removed
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hope you're paying them fairly
 

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