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12:00 AM
@qqvc San Diego, California
 
12:52 AM
HATS
 
@davidism hats?
 
hats.
 
go on...
 
Winter Bash 2014, click the snowflake menu in the topbar
 
where?
 
1:02 AM
user image
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ooooo
How do I earn a hat?
I guess that's the obvious question
 
just do what you normally do on stack overflow, you get them for all sorts of stuff
 
coooooool
 
 
2 hours later…
2:52 AM
Cbg humans
 
lol, I think that hat looks better on you than me :)
 
@davidism Aaaww... Thanks man :) Its good to hear that on a Monday morning ;)
 
 
1 hour later…
4:17 AM
i found something weird
i think
i'm doing a PUT from angular to a django view
at the end of the view i redirect return redirect('/api/asset/{}'.format(asset.id))
the redirect is also a PUT
i was hoping for a GET
 
4:33 AM
what's the http status code of the response from the first request?
307 and 308 instruct the browser to issue the same method on redirect: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes#3xx_Redirection
I don't follow Django, but maybe they started issuing this instead of 301/2/3. Or maybe you or an extension you use is doing it. Or maybe Angular simulates it.
 
301 and 302
    [14/Dec/2014 23:07:36] "PUT /api/asset/6779 HTTP/1.1" 301 0
PUT
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:37] "PUT /api/asset/6779/ HTTP/1.1" 302 0
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:37] "PUT /api/asset/6779 HTTP/1.1" 301 0
PUT
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:38] "PUT /api/asset/6779/ HTTP/1.1" 302 0
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:38] "PUT /api/asset/6779 HTTP/1.1" 301 0
PUT
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:39] "PUT /api/asset/6779/ HTTP/1.1" 302 0
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:39] "PUT /api/asset/6779 HTTP/1.1" 301 0
PUT
[14/Dec/2014 23:07:40] "PUT /api/asset/6779/ HTTP/1.1" 302 0
so it comes in as PUT the first time
redirects to PUT? and then i get stuck in a loop
 
cbg
 
4:59 AM
if only there was a hat for cv-pls'ing
 
lol
@davidism but I feel that we should give the new users sometime before CVing...
It would be a chance for them to edit the question and explain clearly
 
 
2 hours later…
7:04 AM
:O
People have already got 13 hats
 
7:32 AM
@thefourtheye is puppy hat hunting this year?
 
Cbg
 
cbg!
 
@JonClements Ya puppy ya... Got 5 already... :)
Dang, I broke the cbg train :(
Will I get Enlightened badge if the other answers are deleted despite they were poster earlier?
 
umm... not quite sure
 
First to answer and accepted with score of 10 or more.
Ugh, I missed my chance to get a hat :'(
 
7:57 AM
poor puppy - have a scooby snack? :p
 
I need to bust out 400 reviews to get a hat.
Just review cap everyday for a while... Easy.
 
umm... 20 a day in each queue... that's a mission
mind you... can do the CV queue
that's up to 50
 
@JonClements woof woof
 
/me throws puppy some xmas pudding flavoured scooby snacks
 
It'd have to be CV. Don't have the others close enough.
 
8:02 AM
and I imagine gold badge holders interested in hats are going to be thrashing the CV queue for dupes - so that's going to dwindle it down somewhat
 
8:16 AM
I have a wierd error on my server
How do I remove the /flask_hello_world.fcgi/ from the link
 
8:38 AM
does anyone know any good tutorial videos or webpages that can teach me how in a linux environment create a mysql db then use python to access the mysql db and create a webpage using python to display the data from the db?
 
9:12 AM
@JonClements I got the enlightened badge :-)
 
cbg
My hat don't fit so well.
Cute ninja is too small for such a big helmet.
(and yes, I know I can resize them)
 
So cute!!!
Why don't we get to keep these hats!
 
@tilaprimera Just take screenshots.
It's what I do.
 
I :D did ..
yours..
:)
 
@JonClements: the breaking bad badge doesn't require that the post is actually reopened.
You just have to vote for reopening.
 
9:20 AM
heh, it's winterbash...
 
@FlorianMargaine Yup, and we are crazy about it :D
 
I got a hat
:D :D
 
not enabling it this year
took way too much time last year and the year before
 
@MartijnPieters is this a bad hat?
 
@tilaprimera It looks good on your head :)
 
9:21 AM
the 1st winterbash was horrible... I almost got the 5-days rep cap...
 
melons
This hat is said to be secret hat.
 
@MartijnPieters How does it look on me?
 
@thefourtheye Very dashing!
@tilaprimera It's a great hat!
 
melons
 
@MartijnPieters Aaawww :)
 
9:24 AM
@MartijnPieters you look adorable.
@thefourtheye quite a hat, does it come with shades too? Nice!
 
@tilaprimera Shades?..? No... Did anybody else get that?
 
Woo hat!
 
I'm impressed at how well this room is behaving so far though. There is a hat for starring messages and I don't see any overuse of that here. yet.
 
@MartijnPieters We got bored of the stars already ;)
 
@thefourtheye You come with shades on
@thefourtheye Apparently been changed.
 
9:29 AM
I could have sworn last year that the hats appeared in chat?
 
Refresh the chat page
 
@thefourtheye Your old hat had a shade and a cigarette too it seems. Much like @Ffisegydd 's now.
 
:D Fear and Loathing.
 
Oh. You get that hat for that??
laurels
 
9:34 AM
Fizzy"good", heh? :D
 
Why delete your own answers ? or was it question?
 
It was an answer.
I regularly go through my old answers and delete them if they're unneeded, i.e. if there's another (better) answer on the question that says the same thing.
 
@Ffisegydd Me too, I have a Data.SE query for that ;)
 
just saying
I see noone from here...
 
@MartijnPieters is there, 8th
 
9:40 AM
8th is "Sompuperoo"
rekire and Kevin
 
Dang, it changes very quickly... He is in 11th position now
 
Why am I not there?
 
@FlorianMargaine lol
 
I searched myself, it did not find me
 
Oh wow. I didn't know there was a chat on stackoverflow.
*is
 
dun
 
melon :)
 
cbg
 
I have a dupe for stackoverflow.com/questions/27481759/… but it's a question that I answered stackoverflow.com/q/22481248/3005188
Don't really want to vote as a dupe in case it's viewed as me pushing my own. To be honest could vote the question as TB anyway.
Thoughts?
cbg @Jerry
 
I believe it's fairly similar
 
@Ffisegydd Then MartijnPieters may not be able to propose dupes most of the times ;) Go ahead and propose it.
 
enough to close as dup, because it's just a matter of changing the 'new' string
 
10:19 AM
I've already voted as TB
 
bah, voted as dup. It'll be strange to be redirected to a question closed as too broad xD oh well
 
10:31 AM
Woo! Red Shirt hat!
 
guys... someone from JS room is #1 :P
catch up!
 
not participating this year
 
@Jerry No? But the hats are resizable and rotatable this year. Isn't that exciting?
 
well, idk, maybe later
 
@Martijn how do you resize/rotate?
Oh no wait I found it
 
10:47 AM
Too broad, really.
Wow, the upvotes for new users with half-decent questions are flying around a little too often.
Everyone wants the Warm Welcome hat, it appears.
 
11:03 AM
Is there a badge for "Cold Welcome" too? :D
@Robert haaaaaaaaaats (and cbg)
 
Why isn't there a cabbage hat!?
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cabbages make awesome hats
 
@Ffisegydd Isn't that what the crab and red shirt are for?
 
Ah touche (I have both :D)
@Mitchnana1 sorry but you don't have the 20 rep needed to speak in here.
@Mitchnana1 I realise that you're struggling to understand the code, but Stack Overflow isn't really the correct place for you to ask your questions. We're not a tutoring service.
 
11:32 AM
@JonClements I second this... We should fight for it...
 
We should have our own hats that last all year.
 
11:42 AM
@Ffisegydd @thefourtheye see CEP11
 
CEP11?
 
Cabbage Enchancement Proposal.
 
Yay :-)
BTW I look a lot cooler with this hat and a cigarette ;)
 
I have hats turned off - I'm being scrooge at the moment :)
Wow - 4 active users on sopython.com according to analytics... we rule...
 
11:48 AM
I wonder if the server is still downloading data
 
All on the CEP admittedly... but - we're just ignore that for the minute
@Ffisegydd don't think so...?
 
Yeah... nothing since 2200
 
I'll log in at lunch and check everything downloaded correctly, then start extracting (so expect another email about usage @Jon and @davidism)
 
They can be disabled - I just haven't bothered
 
11:51 AM
stackoverflow.com/q/27483372/3005188 too broad and/or opinion based.
They're good to have, in case something unexpected is going on.
 
12:16 PM
Just got 2 more secret hats
All about the Spock, not sure what I got it for though.
Okay beginning extracting the data.
 
@Ffisegydd Upvoting highly-voted posts.
One for questions, the other for accepted answers.
 
@Ffisegydd Is this a valid dup question?
 
@thefourtheye not exactly. That seems to be an image plot, whilst the old post uses a lines plot.
 
Thanks man, I had it in the review queue. I couldn't decide for sure...
 
Plus it's not obvious whether the OP has the image or the actual figure object.
If he has the image (like a png) then it's a completely different (and much more complicated and probably too broad) problem.
 
12:32 PM
I clicked Leave it open for now
 
I've left a comment for OP, will keep an eye on it.
 
Okay, somebody is in a Sumo Judge hat hunt...
 
Cabbage
 
cbg @Int
 
Cabbage @IntrepidBrit
 
12:35 PM
How's it going folks?
 
I've just unstarred every star that wasn't remotely funny. If I find someone starring things just going for a hat I'll be super duper sad.
Please don't abuse the star system. Only star things that are genuinely funny or useful for the group.
 
@Ffisegydd This deserves a star ;-)
 
Ooh hats
 
haaaaaaaaaaaats
 
hats.. hats.. hats.. tall.. short.. shirt.. hats
 
Cool ..!
 
12:52 PM
I have a suspicion on who starred all those random posts, but no definitive proof.
 
@Ffisegydd kick-mute em!
 
Ta Martijn :D
I love when you can use xkcd to educate people :D
I don't think that would make any difference, as you're still lacking your raw data. To do this programmatically you'd have to teach a computer to understand what a black dot looks like, then have it search your image for them, get their pixel position, and work out the axis-value relative to the pixel positions of your x- and y-axis. This xkcd comic kinda sums it up. — Ffisegydd 16 secs ago
 
1:14 PM
@Ffisegydd I just stalk what others star and re-star those..
That way I can hide behind others!
 
@Ffisegydd hammered.
 
1:42 PM
The fact that the crab hat has eyes makes it my favorite hat right now.
 
That...it...amazing...
It...it fits you perfectly.
Unfortunately, there's not many hats that fit a Julia set.
 
@FlorianMargaine I am currently 12th. Not that I am chasing hats all that hard.
 
@MartijnPieters the guy in the JS room is Cerbrus.
(i.e. #1)
 
@FlorianMargaine Yeah, he's hunting hats alright.
 
sure is :P
 
1:54 PM
user image
12
 
@Ffisegydd Yet you manage to make em fit anyway.
Hat switch; the werewolf hunter makes my Ninja look suave.
It takes a short while to propagate here, obviously.
 
It'd be cool if hats accumulated in the background with it switched off, then all of a sudden at the end of it, turn it on and get a shed load :)
 
@Ffisegydd this is what I imagine every time I close a question
 
That you can see into people's souls or that you have a lobster face? Or both?
 
cbg @Florian :)
 
2:04 PM
FYI I had to cancel a load of stars earlier, people starring random things for the hat.
 
@Ffisegydd I kinda saw that one coming :(
 
there's a hat for staring stuff?
 
Star 8 different people or something.
 
oh, well that's annoyi... stars everything
 
Alas there is no hat for unstarring a dozen or so messages ;-;
 
2:07 PM
Should we just make some canonical star fodder posts?
Where's Kevin when you need him?
 
IIRC last year, the sandbox was the place to go for mindless starring
 
As if by magic, Kevin appears from the shadows
 
> I'm basically a Python developer.
 
peers at Django tag
 
Data extraction has finished on the server. This evening I'll begin loading it into mongo.
 
2:12 PM
@Kevin The sandbox is still there.
 
@Ffisegydd and that gets -10 votes... another side effect of badges no doubts
 
I downvoted it and wasn't even thinking of hats
 
Wasn't saying you - but I bet it's happening :0
 
Yah, probably :(
 
there are two hats for downvotes, so probably
 
2:14 PM
I have them both :3
 
It's deleted now anyway
 
I don't like downvotes without comments
I had one question downvoted and had no idea why
 
Sumo Judge makes me look like a rocket.
@analyzethat it happens.
 
@analyzethat it does indeed happen, if you like you could link your question here and I could take a quick look at it to see if there's any obvious feedback?
 
@analyzethat questions are more likely to be downvoted since there's no penalty
 
2:26 PM
not only was it fixed by an updated package, but op didn't even mention the package in the question
 
wow how did that cloud question even garner an undelete vote?
 
Someone trying for a hat? :P
 
is this a django bug? or something at the HTTP level?
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Q: Why does Django's HTTPResponseRedirect use the same HTTP method for PUT but not POST?

hanleyhansenI have a Django project where I'm using a view to handle different HTTP methods. The POST handled the creation of an object and then redirected to the same view as a GET (or so I thought), using Django's redirect() shortcut (HTTPResponseRedirect) to return the newly created object. This worked fi...

 
I'm not a Django developer so I can't say. Would you add some code to your question that can reproduce this?
 
sure
sec
@davidism added some code. let me know if that helps
 
Cabbage!
 
cbg
 
Not sure if I should participate in Winter Bash or not.
It feels so… temporarily useful.
 
@poke I'm not... I'm being a scrooge
 
@poke I just subscribed to see all the hats
got a couple of them when doing so, that's it
 
2:44 PM
You can’t even see the achievements from previous bashes, right?
 
Hahaha... they've updated their question: stackoverflow.com/questions/27485893/…
 
“But I need an answer”
Seriously.
We have to help.
I wonder if the SE team uses @Martijn’s avatar for scale when designing those hats…
They seem to fit so well.
 
You can adjust the size and rotation this year @poke, meaning you can make them fit better.
 
Next year we need to be able to wear multiple hats.
 
2:51 PM
But it’s still one connected picture; yet the crossbow fits perfectly.
And the other hats with accessories for the hands look similarly scaled too.
English skills. Please. Wake up.
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Well, you should be more sensible about naming your holidays. We never forget what date the 4th of July or Cinco de Mayo fall on. ;p — Bill the Lizard ♦ 47 mins ago
Or maybe they do… (last one on that picture)
 
Augh you guys closed the "return list when calling class" question mere seconds before I was going to answer it
jonrsharpe stole my thunder in a comment. If you want list(my_thing) to work, then override __iter__.
 
</3 sowwy Kevin
 
@poke oh dear....
 
rbrb for a bit
 
I don't have to worry about how to earn the Treasure Hunter, I don't think. Just a few more votes away from the golden JSON tag badge.
By my count another 5 to go; I already got 2 today for old answers.
 
user559633
3:11 PM
When is Cinco de Mayo?
 
user559633
Follow up, what's a "de Mayo?" Is it like a De Morgan?
 
I'm 98% sure this is a joke or rhetorical question or something, but in the spirit of freedom of information, I'm going to answer anyway. It's the fifth of May.
You may now "woosh" me.
 
I didn't know that (not joking) but then I don't speak...Spanish?
 
This year's "Cinco de Mayonnaise" (tm) is brought to you by Kraft Food, Inc.
 
3:18 PM
@tristan Mayo is May. Cinco de Mayo is the 5th of May.
@Ffisegydd Wohoo!
 
I'm guessing you guys aren't American? It's an American holiday.
 
user559633
@MartijnPieters I know :) I needed the 2 part for the demorgan.
 
user559633
Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday. We'll get drunk on it, but it's a bar holiday and not a bank holiday.
 
America sure gets chummy when booze is involved.
 
"St. Patty's day"
 
user559633
3:24 PM
I love the answer that isn't mine on this: stackoverflow.com/questions/27487106/…
 
user559633
"Yeah i don't know, you might have to do a thing!"
 
Prediction. In the next ten thousand years, the human race will accumulate enough holidays to be drunk, hung over, or in a food-induced torpor 365 days a year. nothing productive will ever happen again.
 
user559633
And the other one. What the heck?
 
@tristan both other answers are poor, downvoted both.
@tristan it doesn't want to go faster i.imgur.com/Dg2UuBT.pngfrainfreeze 21 secs ago
pmsl.
 
user559633
Yeah. Mine is still "not 100%" because he wasn't very specific (and the answer is really, really long to cover every case), but it at least answers his question
 
user559633
3:28 PM
I think I'm going to go home and get back in bed.
 
You're close to 2k, what's the new privilege? Editing I think.
 
user559633
Meh. The next interesting one is at 10k (see deletes of shameful content)
 
Yeah I'm aiming for that one. Then I'll be pretty content.
Editing is useful though.
 
user559633
I received the "tenacious" badge (Zero score accepted answers: more than 5 and 20% of total.) this weekend and smirked so hard that people around me were like "Whoa, hold up. Why is that guy smirking so hard?"
 
3:32 PM
I was hoping my early morning question answering frenzy would push me past 19.9k, but it wasn't enough. I guess I'll just get out-fastest-gunned for the rest of the day and try again tomorrow.
 
user559633
Flagged both with "needs baby's first code"
 
user559633
linkedin pushing their junk towards SO really chummed the water for flagging
 
Shame CVs don't count towards the flag count, or I'd have another gold badge.
 
user559633
seriously.
 
user559633
3:34 PM
it would be neat if SO responded by disallowing linkedin questions
 
user559633
anyway, i'm off for a bit because i'm a terrible monster that left myself ~10 pages of diagrams for an API that i had finally sorted out in my head on friday without putting any code down
 
Today I have to maintain the monolithic block of code that was only ever truly understood by my ex-coworker.
I'd seek his assistance through email, but it's so confusing I don't even know what questions to ask.
 
I'm looking forward to that happening when I leave my PhD. The other students trying and failing to understand my code.
Unfortunately the other student who will be trying to understand it is my GF. So if she doesn't understand it she'll just bring it home and hit me with it until I explain it.
 
Yeah... doesn't work when they know where you live :)
 
Alas @Kevin I must unupvote your answer to that question ;-;
 
3:38 PM
I would edit, but then it would be an exact copy of the answer posted one second after mine.
And I'd feel kind of weird "copying" him.
 
user559633
stackoverflow.com/questions/27487106/… i don't know what this guy is trying to tell me
 
cbg.
 
user559633
cbg
 
I think that's the most hostile response I've ever gotten for posting code that works perfectly on the input given. My sort-of-right answers usually just wallow at 0 points.
 
I swear the questions are worse today than normal. I'm pretty sure this is psychological in nature.
If only we had some kind of data analytics project that could work out whether the questions really are worse than normal D:
 
Wheeeee! I got the Timelord!
 
Does anyone know good card games for a social situation with mathy people?
 
Cards Against Humanity
 
@QuestionC snap!?
 
3:45 PM
Cards Against Humanity is the best.
 
Doesn't really appeal to mathy people specifically.
 
But if you want an actual card game (i.e. hearts, spades, etc) then poker. I'm also a fan of hearts as it allows you to shoot the moon.
 
I like Bridge
 
user559633
@QuestionC drinking?
 
I consider myself mathy, and I'm terrible at poker. Bluffing, and intimidation, and trying to read the expression of other players, that's all for art majors or something.
 
3:47 PM
Poker involves so much extra crap though. I'm basically looking for icebreakers in dev team drinking thing.
 
@Question shot class snap then!
 
Shithead (also known as Palace, Shed or Karma or "OG") is a card game similar to the Finnish game Paskahousu. In the game the object is to lose all of one's cards, with the last player to do so being the "shithead", who must deal the next game and may be subject to some minor forfeit of the group's choice, such as fetching the next round of drinks. The game, and variations of it, is popular in many countries amongst backpackers, and as a result is widespread. Although the basic structure of the game generally remains constant there are often regional variations of the game's original rules. �...
 
@QuestionC Meiern
 
President, or as we called it in 6th form "El Presidente" is an awesome game.
 
buh, being super annoying here, but how does one even read a turing machine transition state table? The delta function is weird
 
3:54 PM
Dunno
 
"Your Linode, sopython, has exceeded the notification threshold (1000) for disk io rate by averaging 30561.25 for the last 2 hours." heh
 
@corvid Huh? Depends a bit on how you write it down? Or graph it down, even.
 
We were using 160% of our CPU earlier.
 
That's a big number.
 
I don't know how that works. I assume that as we have 8 cores we actually have 800% maximum.
 
3:56 PM
@poke If you use the transition function of a automata to generate a transition state table, there is that delta function that defines the movements, same with the PDA... but the turing machine seems to have a very different way it handles this.
 
the percent reflects the work of one cpu
 
Mealy or Moore? (Or classic Turing?)
 
@Ffisegydd we've only got 6 cores :)
 
8. 6. They look alike.
 

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