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4:00 PM
@IntrepidBrit bet it'll be on have I got news for you on friday
 
I'm not taking that bet.
 
Bah... bloomin' politics and bickering
 
user559633
Not only that, but crap whiskey 'The "smart fabric" has been developed for Johnnie Walker Black Label..'
 
what the UK needs now is a dictator... shame I'm a little busy at the moment... sighs
@tristan but don't you realise - geeks drink "Johnnie Mnemonic Black Label"?
 
What the UK needs right now is to stop for a moment, realise (regardless of the party being elected) that they're all tossers and only elect decent folk
I'm half tempted to run a joke website - Fantasy Cabinet Manager
 
user559633
4:06 PM
I've never heard of that @JonClements.
 
Just so people are aware how much/little their MP does
 
Ugh... I thought I was being witty... did no one else get that at all? :(
 
whoosh
 
user559633
I know there was some movie with Neo from the Matrix in the early 90s called Johnnie Mnemonic
 
user559633
Before he knew kung fu
 
4:08 PM
@Ffisegydd nice
 
Hah, I thought you would approve.
I can't get sopy to run on my Mac, think I've got an error with postgresql somewhere, so not been able to chase down the latest error.
 
user559633
post the error?
 
oh, that's me just writing bad data migrations
comment out that line, run the migrations again
 
Yay! Not my fault!
 
4:11 PM
actually, try pulling first, I thought I caught that one
 
I was on master.
 
Yeah that worked.
 
"Nibada? Like Lambada, but danced by the knights who say Ni?" Oh never mind. Rhubarb!
 
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@RolfBly Nibada as in Nibada
 
4:16 PM
yeah I know.
 
@davidism some of the docs are out of date too, still using approved rather than Editor (I assume it should be Editor?_
 
If anyone wants to do me all the needful and work on those sopython bugs, that would be nice. :) HELP PLEASE ASAP
@Ffisegydd we have docs? That I'm supposed to maintain? :)
 
HELP PLOX
 
As soon as I manage to add myself to Editor on my Mac I'll try to track it down
sopy auth set_group 3005188 approved ain't working
 
4:21 PM
try sopy auth set_group --help, I think it's the other way around
 
Narp that's the right way
I think it's to do with approved, I'll go into the shell and do it manually
 
Borrowing falling every year -slightly less than expected for 2 yrs then more than expected for 4 yrs. We end in slightly stronger position
What numbers is he looking at ? :p
Ooo... I appear to have stolen an accept
 
Ok I think I have the bug
 
Well formed question, real practical problem, completely unsatisfying "there's no fix" answer. stackoverflow.com/questions/27254013/…
 
Which, now that I look at it, I could get without even needing to boot it up
 
4:26 PM
Just look at all the research I put into that answer. Referencing the spec, bug reports, and source code.
All to say, "use Firefox instead of Chrome, or get a domain name".
 
@davidism I like it - it'll get +1 from me if you fix "You could server this"...
 
d'oh
 
For some reason form.validate_on_submit() is not returning True
 
This is just another reason I don't like Chrome though. :) Some of the devs on my team ran into it last year, and grumbled a lot about moving to Firefox.
@Ffisegydd enter debugger and look at form.errors
I really need to start displaying the validation errors on the page
 
?!!?!?! You are having a yamming giraffe. This framework doesn't have a native Math.Log (base 2)
 
4:31 PM
@davidism how to get into debugger? I'm running it with pizzey$ sopy --debug run -h localhost
 
I meant the pycharm debugger. You need to run it without the --debug flag otherwise PyCharm's debugger won't work.
 
DSM
@IntrepridBrit: well, it's not too tough to do manually, anyway..
 
I wasn't running it in PyCharm as I couldn't remember how to get it to run, so just ran it from command line.
Will look into it now.
 
I think that's in the docs somewhere
you could always use pdb from the command line too :)
 
umm... was that vote you @davidism?
 
4:33 PM
It's not in the docs, I can remember you telling me before. Wonder if I wrote it down somewhere...
 
@Jon which vote?
 
oh... just appearing to get random upvotes
 
Got it.
 
@DSM No. It's just that this framework is trying to gently troll me at every turn
 
DSM
To be fair, taking a log to any base other than e is.. well.. unnatural.
 
4:37 PM
Is today international "Dad Joke" day?
 
DSM
Comedic genius is never appreciated in its own time, Mr. Starbait notwithstanding.
 
I can't find anything in form.errors
Tis an empty dict
 
import re
def upper_dupes(txt):
    seen = set()
    def replacer(match):
        word = match.group(1)
        return word.upper() if word in seen or seen.add(word) else word
    return re.sub('(\w+)', replacer, txt)
Reckon that'd be mean for this one ? :)
 
What is weird is that form.validate_on_submit() works for deletions
 
DSM
I thought it was Martijn who liked giving working but never-going-to-be-mistaken-for-the-OP's-work code. :-)
 
4:50 PM
@Ffisegydd you're looking at the errors after calling validate, right?
and validate is returning false?
 
Yeeeeeah I wasn't, just a second.
"A title with this page already exists"
 
So validate is returning False and then it's going to the second return statement (which is outside of the if loop)
 
that's the relevant line
well, that's obvious now that I see it
 
Yeah, if that means what I think it means.
It's looking at the number of posts, and if it's True (so 1) then it raises that.
 
4:54 PM
it should check that the title isn't used by a different page
The __init__ takes an obj parameter, which is an existing object or None, should probably store that for this form, and if it's not none add it's id to the query
 
Changing that == to != will fix it, no? But I assume you might want more complicated fixings/additions?
If not, I can put a PR in before I go home, or just leave it to you to sort.
In fact, I need to go home now, be back in an hour or so.
 
still need to check that the title's unique, just need to exclude the page itself from the check
rbrb
 
having a bit of delay on starlist, because last math test before final is tomorrow
 
you could always drop out of school
I kid, do well in school everyone.
 
@DSM I have my moments - just don't have the mean streak to actually post it ;)
 
5:01 PM
last semester, the best time to drop out
 
DSM
.. isn't that the worst time?
 
My sarcasm sensor is pinging. That or my Timey Wimey detector is broken again
 
DSM
Toward the end of third year I was starting to think dropping out RIGHT THEN would be the best time. (Freakin' electronics lab. To this day I don't know how it made sense to eveyrbody else and none to me at all.)
 
think a Raspberry Pi would be capable of recording music in real time? If buffering was used, would it be viable?
 
@corvid Yes, depending on how you define real tme
 
5:12 PM
there is no "real" time... it's all wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff... don't you watch Doctor Who!!!?
 
I suppose I mean to say, can have a buffer writing to a hard drive and a buffer keeping track of audio input, etc
 
@DSM you're not alone, I withdrew from ECE53, which was the electronics lab for CS majors. Luckily they removed the requirement the next quarter.
 
this subject in math seems so easy that it's deceptive
 
5:32 PM
@Corvid "how to count to ten"?
 
DSM
@Jon: that can be complicated.. Just think of the old "I have eleven fingers" trick. ("No, you don't." "Yes, I do. Let's count down on one hand: ten, nine, eight, seven, six," -- here you wave the other hand -- ", and five is eleven!")
 
oh, I thought it was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A
@DSM hahahha... see this - a not quite so good implementation of my mean idea :)
wow... need another 10k rep to get in the top 500 all time for SO... that's assuming everyone else stays static... sighs
 
@JonClements pretty close, it's more like "let f be a function such that f(x) == x. What is f(10)?"
 
@corvid it's next to f(9) and f(11) on my keyboard?
 
5:56 PM
@corvid Yes. Although RPis run off SDCards by default
 
@JonClements: new is not highlighted as a keyword..
Looking at the DOM tree I see it marked up as pln, not kwd.
 
It is on mobile
arghgh... where'd I put my phone
I'm sure that looks highlighted
wb @SomeKittens
 
ohai
 
@JonClements Ah, not on the regular web rendering.
May have to report that as a bug then.
 
user559633
for a few kittens more
 
6:10 PM
@Martijn reckon it's worth doing so?
Will just have a check on MSE in case it's already there though
@MartijnPieters meta.stackexchange.com/questions/244600/… - comments welcome
@Jon: Fixed. The underscores are intended to show that those variables don't really exist (in the sense that they do not appear, even briefly, in the local/global variable scope and are inaccessible from Python), and the del is meant to reinforce this in an intuitive and obvious fashion. — Kevin 2 mins ago
not quite sure I'm grokking the thoughts behind that, but...
 
I was looking at that and thinking, that sounds nothing like @Kevin. That's just an impostor Kevin.
 
I can imagine typing that while in Serious Business mode. But I didn't.
 
Okay... I've re-cropped the MSE image to make it fit on a page
 
Last night police had to frisk me
In the cells thanks to bells fine whiskey
Whoops, I think I said too much like
Do you like my bracelets
Oh wait, they're handcuffs
 
6:26 PM
lets say I have a function with a lot of arguments, for example:
    foo(a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, m, n)
which then calls another function and passes most of the arguments,
    bar(d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, m, n)
How does this "smell" to you guys, is it worth re-factoring?
 
@JonClements: I now sorta see why the OPEN entries come after the initial value.
 
@Martijn I wasn't focusing on the question/answer - the new was bugging me :)
 
Yeah, but I did pay attention on how to solve the stack problem, without having to peek ahead in the stream to see when an OPEN was being issued.
 
looks good to me :)
 
@Humdinger I generally dislike functions with that many arguments.
If your functions have ten pieces of stateful information, that's a signal that they may be trying to do too much.
Depending on what you're actually trying to do, it may make sense to bundle multiple variables in a single object. Ex. if d through n are all describing the properties of a widget, then you could make a Widget class and do foo(a,b,c, my_widget) and my_widget.bar()
Now you've gone from 20 arguments to 4.
 
6:39 PM
@Martijn anyway... I might get a few internet points for the question, and hopefully, you'll get some traffic to your answer :)
 
6:51 PM
Better make sure the SSH session is actually logged in before issuing a shutdown command this time :)
Arghh.. haven't paid linode yet either
makes a note
 
7:12 PM
whew, finished that puzzle visualizer thing I started yesterday.
Just in time for 90% of the Puzzling stack exchange to go on strike due to disagreements in their Meta. Lovely.
Enjoy the fruits of my labor, absolutely no one.
 
user559633
lol a SE site going on "strike"
 
I've seen at least two passive aggressive riddles where the clues are like "I'm slowly dying, what am I?" and the answer is "the Puzzles stack exchange"
 
user559633
all of a sudden, my life seems so full
 
@tristan which one?
 
user559633
from the comment before mine by kevin about the puzzles one
 
7:25 PM
Ah I see, awesome.
 
7:36 PM
Can anyone tell me why my post was downvoted? I put in effort into the post stackoverflow.com/questions/27279141/efficiency-of-my-program and followed the rules didn't I ?
 
Let's see.
Putting links in all caps is unusual, but not especially downvote worthy
 
And another downvote. math.se is not nearly this bad.
 
@Ozera What do you mean by "efficient"? Time? Memory? How do you want us to compare the two languages? Do you want people to actually run the code and do some statistics for you?
 
I think a fundamental problem with the program, is that "execution speed" is not technically a feature of any particular programming language. It's an emergent property of the program, the language, the implementation of the interpreter/compiler, and the hardware.
 
I want people to explain how to test for efficiency. My code and the equivalents are an example of what I want to test
 
7:40 PM
an excellently optimized python program can beat a lazily written C program, all other things being equal; and a C program running on a supercomputer will beat a Python program of equivalent complexity running on a mobile phone.
 
@Ozera it's remarkably open ended... "What if"... "Why", "I don't know if"...
 
@Ozera "I want people to explain how to test for efficiency. ", THAT should be your question
 
@Ozera that's a terrible title, and it asks us to compare three programs in three different languages
 
@Ozera loving your avatar btw :)
 
It is not a terrible title at all. It explains exactly what I want.
 
7:41 PM
@Ozera No where do you state you want to LEARN HOW TO TEST, instead it sounds like your asking people to do the comparison for you
 
ugh
 
If you're looking for hard data regarding the comparative speed of languages, I like to use the n-body benchmark. all of my previous disclaimers still apply here- Python isn't necessarily 117 times slower than Fortran, but it gives you a ballpark understanding.
 
what do you expect to get out of this that you couldn't do yourself with timeit? state that in the question
 
@Ozera You have this phrase, "How exactly does it compare to my Python program?" But you never explain whta comparisons you want. Its like saying, "Answer my very generic question in a very specific way"
 
There. Edited appropriately.
 
7:43 PM
@Humdinger Good point. "exactly" is not well-defined here.
 
I do not like stackoverflow.
 
user559633
Okay, bye then
 
user559633
 
that's ok, there are plenty that do like it, maybe you're approaching it wrong, or have the wrong expectations?
 
I unfortunately need the experience / opinion of the people who use this site though since they know more about the thing I need
 
7:45 PM
opinion is a bad word to use, for example
 
Rhubarb folks. Time to leave that office
 
user559633
yeah we're just slaves to you @Ozera sorry the free help train isn't showing up fast enough
 
It's not even that @tristan
It's that the post was downvoted without anyone asking to clarify what I was asking for if they were confused. Nor why they thought it was a poor post.
math.SE acts much better in this regard.
 
user559633
you openly state you don't like stackoverflow, you came in here to argue against feedback, and immediately cried about how some other site is subjectively better. what are you expecting here?
 
A simple downvote is not going to explain to me what I should edit in the post. Does that make sense?
 
7:47 PM
downvoters are not required to respond, and in fact a recent meta post discourages them from doing that
 
user559633
oh wait, i don't care
 
@davidism I would actually be interested in reading said meta post if you can find it for me
 
Theory: the main SO site has a higher traffic rate, so regulars get jaded much faster. Consequently, they're more likely to simply downvote and move on without commenting.
 
Ah, okay. That makes more sense @Kevin
Maybe @tristan is also one of these jaded regulars.
 
Hmm, maybe ;-)
 
user559633
7:48 PM
Nope, I'm actually quite helpful :)
 
;3
 
Jaded and helpful are orthogonal concepts :-)
 
I am not jaded but I rarely explain a downvote on a question. My downvote is not for the OP. My downvote is to help my peers know "this is a bad question"
 
The question isn't that good a fit for the site though, it's not something that's really useful for future reference.
 
So where would a post about efficiency of two programs which do the same thing be more welcomed?
 
7:49 PM
It may be better received on codereview.se, but don't quote me on that.
 
I don't think it would be a good fit for CR.SE.
I think they want cold, hard code bases that they can improve/review.
 
Maybe a community outside of stack exchange. IRC? Usenet?
 
@Ozera It typically helps if you make your question more general. For example, you could redo your entire question to just say, "I am trying to compare two implementations in different languages, what are some ways I can compare them effectively? I would like to know, a b and c."
 
user559633
Well, yeah, because if you're talking about efficiency without being able to measure, you're just talking
 
yeah, what Humdinger said
 
7:51 PM
Ah.
 
rather than asking us to compare things for you, a good Q&A question for posterity might be how to compare them in the first place
 
Thanks @Humdinger. For future posts, i'll remember that. @Kevin I'll just go ask on #python on FN and hope someone responds.
 
@Ozera A good StackOverflow question contains ONLY the information needed to find an answer. NOthing missing, but nothing extra.
Its about building a community knowledge base, not about finding an answer to your specific problem
Specific problems are only good when you know others will have the same specific problem.
 
mm
 
Questions such as, "fix my code" typically get downvoted VERY fast
 
7:55 PM
I think it's important to remember that a question can be interesting and well-written and useful, but still get downvoted. SO advertises itself as a Q&A site, but really it's only for a particular narrow category of Qs and As.
 
I would assume so. Though, mine was not that.
 
No it wasnt. But it appears to be a sibling, because you included too much information
 
Yes, I suppose I did.
 
It also helps if you tell people what you have tried, so they know what doesnt work.
 
user559633
also, i can't tell what your post was because it's removed, but making a sscce.org always improves your odds of getting someone to care
 
7:57 PM
People are a lot more willing to help if they see you are stuck, rather than just asking to "do my job". So help them know that you are stuck by explaining what you have tried, and where you are stuck
 
Well, I didn't know what to try which is what I was asking @Humdinger. Though, my questions, it seems, was not that clear on that.
question*
 
@tristan +1. everything I just said could probably have been summed up by that post. :p
 
Oh, neat.
 
Btw, there is a SO version, which is similar but not quite as detailed: stackoverflow.com/help/mcve
 
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8:02 PM
To note, Freenode people are telling me to just run them at the same time and time them. I guess i'll go with that answer.
Though I feel like there is more to it then that
 
well yeah, isn't that obvious though?
that's one reason why the question was poorly received, it didn't seem to say anything that couldn't be answered by just running them and looking at the time
 
I just thought there was more to it than that.
I...guess there isn't?
 
There is. You should run the code multiple times and take averages.
You also shouldn't run them at the same time as they'll consume resources
 
what made you think that? (not putting it down, just want to get at what you're really asking)
and yeah, you can be more rigorous in how you run them/analyze the results
 
Science!
 
8:05 PM
we need SOPython stickers. Putting in an issue on github!
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Testing over various data sets would probably be useful, too. Maybe Python beats PHP for N=10 but loses for N=1000.
 
mm
 
but that sort of stuff is pretty well answered by a google search and probably by other questions already on SO
 
is it pythonic if to flatten a list of lists
i convert it into a string
 
@user22723 Why would you need to do that?
 
8:07 PM
use a regex to match each item of the list (they're all strings or other lists of lists of strings)
and then use findall to output it as a list
 
that sounds like an incredibly overcomplicated solution to flatten lists
so yes, that solution is not pythonic
 
it probably is
(is not pythonic)
 
@user22723 perhaps its better you describe your overall desired solution and we can help you know the pythonic way of doing so
 
oh, i was just wondering. I know the actual solution it's a pretty common problem on so
 
8:08 PM
>>> a = [[1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6]]
>>> b = [i for j in a for i in j]
# [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
 
not only is it not pythonic, but it's just crazy
it relies on the string representation of a nested structure, relies on all representations being reversible (so you can get the real list back at the end), relies on regexes that catch all weird cases, etc.
 
It might be beyond the power of regexes to parse a nested list anyway. What if the strings contain brackets or commas or quote marks?
It's the same reason you can't parse HTML.
 
the regex only matches the ' ' denoting the start and end of each string inside it
 
@Kevin Nothing is beyond the power of regex! Your regex foo is just weak.
 
i guess you have to have the strings inside the strings be done with " "
but other than that it should be fine
 
8:10 PM
what if you have escaped quotes?
 
But what if the strings already had both ' and " inside them? how will you convert them back to their original form?
 
i thought it was standard practice to use ' ' for the outer main string and " " for the inner ones
im not saying it's a good solution aha. i just thought it was interesting one
 
@user22723 Yes, but that doesnt guarantee that the ' mark doesn't exist inside
 
and i still dont really know what pythonic means
 
Nobody does ;-)
Pythonic isn't something you know! It's something you feel.
(yes I'm being overly dramatic)
 
8:12 PM
@user22723 A somewhat limited guide on beginning to understand pythonic: python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008
 
except that just covers style, not actual code
 
thats why I said limited :p
 
for the escaped quotes i guess you could have it not terminate the capture group thing if its preceded by a \
idk how conditionals work in regexes though
 
umm... is Arsenal live on Sky tonight?
 
Why are you still pursuing the regex route? If you really want one, I will give you the regex to do it, but why?
 
8:15 PM
im not pursuing it!
 
I think we're in "for the sake of curiosity" territory here
 
lol ok
 
i thought it was an interesting alternative solution
its like when someone posts a snip of obviously bad code like i = ++i
asking what it might do
and the only answers they get are like "wow dont use it!"
 
Reminds me of the question "how does the line while(i --> 23) work?"
 
8:16 PM
but we said more than don't use it, we poked a bunch of holes in it to show why
 
the solution reminds me a lil of how our brains do math
like we process a lot of it visually, making images in our head to see how it works
atleast, might just be me
 
@user22723 I think it makes for a great challenge problem with regexes and stuff. Its an interesting solution, but would be terrible for anything worthwhile.
 
DSM
I leave for lunch, I come back, and the puzzlers are on strike? Everything is spiralling out of control!
 
@DSM is the glue to SOPython
 
strike?
 
user559633
8:24 PM
i = ++i obviously sets i to the next element in the struct pointed to by i
 
DSM
@davidism: Kevin mentioned it earlier.
 
@tristan Yea, I don't really see the problem with the question.
But I see why it would get downvotes on SO
 
user559633
I was kidding
 
user559633
epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/… "Version numbering for anarchists and software realists." :D
 
It doesn't have as interesting a message in the docstring, but parse_version is even smarter than LooseVersion
 
user559633
8:39 PM
i've been so spoiled by so-python that i expect our little rulesto be in other places (like don't ask to ask a question)
 
Another teacher shoehorning recursion somewhere unnecessary. /me reaches for "deploy attack spiders" lever
"I know how to do it iteratively, but I have to add recursion". No. If an intuitive iterative version works, use it. Take the F for the principle of the thing.
 
8:56 PM
it's great fun when you've got a mate around watching Sky, and you keep switching the channel now and then for a laugh
 
B-but mah SICP Fibbonachi example.
 
I'm always tempted to link to the O(1) fibonacci formula on Wikipedia.
"You improved from factorial time to linear? That's cute, I guess"
 
DSM
Yeah, but if you want an accurate result you have to start increasing the precision and then you're kind of cheating..
 
That's why I resist the temptation :-)
 
Is it just me, or was this a petty edit?
 
9:00 PM
Obviously the user merely needs to switch to a computer that can precisely represent and manipulate irrational numbers.
 
oh nevermind - it's a correct edit - I put the wrong link in :)
 
Is the O(1) solution basically taking a power of the golden ratio? That doesn't seem like it would be linear.
Er, constant I mean
 
constant in number of lines of Python executed, but probably not CPU instructions run.
What's the complexity for exponentiation these days? Logarithmic?
 
Floating point exponentiation is constant, but preserving the necessary precision DSM mentioned seems like it would add to the processing.
 
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9:09 PM
It's kind of like how adding two numbers together is O(1)... but only for small numbers.
A lot of O(1) algorithms aren't really that.
 
@QuestionC How is adding two large numbers together not O(1)?
 
The more digits they have, the longer it takes.
Just as it would if you were adding them on paper.
 
interesting... never thought of it like that.
But that only applies if "n" is the size of the number, and not the size of your list
 
@Humdinger It was just an example, but adding is a pretty common thing to do. And "the size of your number" is just Log(N).
I'm just complaining about O(1) algorithms that only work for finitely small values I guess. Was always a peeve in school.
 
(exception to my previous comment: you can add two numbers in O(1) if you have more adder circuits than digits. This was the case when I took circuit design in college - adding any numbers smaller than 2^16 took one cycle)
 
9:18 PM
Er
 
Going to the store and buying more adder circuits is O(1), as long as you only have to make one trip.
 
Everything is O(1) for finitely large N.
So adding circuits costs $O(logN) because you're buying circuits. =)
 
And price rises with demand, so it's actually polynomial complexity... Oh dear.
 
We'll have to put more adder circuits in the hardware store registers to keep up with spiralling prices.
 
9:34 PM
hang on - price rises with demand? In that case - "I demand lower prices"!
 
Stop, that demand will only make them rise more!
 
at the end of the day - people will only pay what they're willing to pay for something
(unless they're stupid and think credit cards are meant for such things)
a mate of mine always use to make me chuckle - he use to collect rolex watches
his comments were: "You can always tell if they're genuine because they don't keep time correctly"
 
DSM
You have an admirably wide range in wealth among your friends!
 
I felt like saying "I'll just go buy a calculator that can't add up because it looks nice shall I?" - managed to bite my tongue though
one day I shall dive into my chamber of millions of gold bullion made from the worlds entire gold supplies... and probably break my neck...
 
DSM
Diving into gold is for duckies, not puppies.
 
9:44 PM
oh
a chamber full of all the worlds dog biscuits? That's okay though, right?
 
DSM
Of course. But don't eat too many along the way.
 
@DSM you're no fun :(
Black Friday was funny... there was a bloke interviewed who'd popped to his local ASDA to get some milk and bread... saw a 32" TV on offer and bought it... when asked why: "I only came in for milk and bread, but the TV seemed like a good deal, don't need one, and my other TVs are better, but yeah..."
 
DSM
That's what you'd expect from those rich Asda types. I was a Lidl man myself.
 
if I had a local Lidl - I'd be happy :)
I get meat and veg from local farmers then canned/dryed etc... from whichever supermarket has the best deals at the time
someone not too far down the road also does chicken and duck eggs, they put them out each morning, and it's a pick up what you want, and leave money in a bowl kinda thing
 
DSM
High-trust region, I take it.
 
9:58 PM
@DSM ghost village surrounded by fields for miles on end...
 
DSM
Perfect setting. All the best stories take place in quiet English villages.
 
hopefully not Midsommer Murders-esque ones though :p
 
DSM
Let's not be hasty. The English cozy is a time-honoured genre.
 
Well - it's hardly "The Darling Buds Of May" :)
which I have on DVD and need to dig up to watch again - I love that series
I can go to bed at a normal time tonight and not have to get up at 2/3am - it's amazing how good that feels
(although I hope I haven't just cursed it)
 
DSM
No more waiting for a call that never comes?
 
10:03 PM
None scheduled... and going to put the phone on mute and turn the computers off
I find it weird that SE sends me notifications for "new" SO questions for the day at 10pm
Ummm - wonder why the answerer deleted stackoverflow.com/questions/27282643/…
or just didn't want to admonished for a "giving the answer to a read the docs thing"
 
DSM
Okay, time to prep for a teleconference during which I get to tell various important people that their data isn't very useful.
Rhubarb for all!
 
rbrb @DSM!
 
10:42 PM
yay - Ambassadors is on blinkbox: blinkbox.com/tv/ambassadors-(1823)/s01-(2611)
 

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