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1:51 AM
Play around the Rebol/SDK and find we can change red.exe's icon. So which one you like best?
Thanks @HostileFork for the beautiful icons. :-)
 
2:53 AM
@qtxie Welcome. :-) For any small-format purpose like the corner of the console window or a web favicon I suggest using the flat icon. The 3D one does not miniaturize well, even if it were hand-optimized for that size.
In the picture above, it is a much cleaner/bolder statement and looks more "industrial strength" to use the flat icon in the console.
 
3:20 AM
@qtxie - I like the first one. More clean, more visible ....
 
3:58 AM
@qtxie For the big icons, I find the 3D one way much nicer. The flat one looks very cheap and common (could be a wifi-related button...). For the small icons, the 3D one is unreadable, the flat one renders much better. So, I'm for a mix. ;-)
 
 
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6:21 AM
@DocKimbel OK, I'll create a mix one.
 
6:36 AM
Make a PR for those icons.
 
 
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11:37 AM
@DocKimbel - since May 2014, BB ships with Debian preinstalled, instead of Angstrom Linux. My OS is old (2012). I will upgrade to debian, once at home. Then I will try to run hello and demo again.
It also seems, that it is armhf, so I will try to use RPi target, instaed of Linux-ARM one?
 
 
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1:46 PM
@DocKimbel I disagree on cheap and common. Something to understand about graphic design as a field is that "getting simplicity right" is actually rather difficult.
It is an analogy to Rebol and Red you might say.
I had been starting out in drawing and met a girl at a party and she had a business card which was just a solid green with some white text in a corner. She was a graphic designer and I felt this was boring--not much to discuss.
But when a design is simple and recognizable, and proportions are thought out, you can get mileage out of that... a lot of mileage. I want to express empathy in understanding why a simple thing might appear "cheap" or "how long would THAT take", because I felt that way once too.
But I also want to stress that if you can own and brand with simple designs it is powerful, and I think this is a genuinely new design that would not be mistaken for (for instance) wi-fi reception.
But it would not have the "weight" it has if not for the tower and full-stack "story"; that is what gives it the deeper meaning
So you can say many things about it, but it is by no means cheap. :-)
I realize the sense of this is something that comes only with experience; you would not expect to master cooking after one class, or programming after reading one book. And graphic design like any field is deep and takes time to cultivate and tune one's perception.
And context plays a big part too. That is the great thing about the tower; it has square plates, it has three levels, we can see it in many ways and it can be reframed many ways.
Back me up here, @pekr :-)
 
2:36 PM
@HostileFork I don't want to disturb this channel with marketing stuff. I know Doc's position towards so called "flat designs". Simply put - for smaller icon, even Doc might admit, that the flat one is more visible/clear/clean.
In fact, IIRC, the flat one was kind of my idea, so yes, I like it. I can even imagine the t-shirt variant using something like your flat icon (but it would read as RAD), here was my idea - xidys.com/red-logo/red-inverse-box.png
But really, we should take the discussion elsewhere, why not Rebol and Red group, it is more general one ...
 
3:08 PM
@pekr Right, RPi target is a better fit for BB.
 

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