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4:00 PM
Is the... virtual definition of... well, this one, not common?
> almost or nearly as described, but not completely or according to strict definition
 
I think the appropriate adjective to express that would be "digital", not "virtual".
 
wat
 
It isn't related to technology in this context.
 
now I have no idea what the fuck you're on about.
 
@Pawnguy7 Well, what did you mean by it then?
 
4:01 PM
The point in question.
 
You don't know what you meant?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I think this happened a long time ago
 
I do.
 
Ell
A very long time ago
 
What did you mean?
 
4:02 PM
Somebody reading what I meant did not.
 
Ell
I only heard of Lua some years ago because it was supposed to be good to embed :3
 
In this context, it was on speech. For example, there was that pycon thing, right?
 
i am having a particular issue. i compiled and built code using gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-54) and this is being ported into a(gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3) (GCC) is resulting in floating point exception error. to resolve this i am thinking without having to recompile could they just install the older gcc separately and run my code that way? what you guys think?
 
where it was said is irrelevant.
 
4:03 PM
One of them lost their jobs, correct?
 
I have no idea about that.
 
I think they both did.
or at least one of them did.
 
Now, my point was, in this essay.
There is a virtual censorship of such words.
While technically you can say them.
It might cost you significantly.
 
I don't even remember what was said.
 
Ah. Blame the reader, no doubt.
 
4:04 PM
Public backlash and such things.
 
that's not censorship
 
@DeadMG Something about "forking" and "dongles".
@BenCollins Hence the "virtual".
 
those are consequences. Two different things.
 
oh yeah, that.
 
zch
Chilling effect?
 
4:05 PM
those words are clearly not censored, it's the manner in which he used them
 
that ^, maybe
 
@Ell Well, Marmalade is quite big, and their Lua support extended to the full product itself didn't really happen "years ago"
 
and even then, it was only her total overreaction that caused a problem.
 
but not censorship. not even virtual
 
@BartekBanachewicz One specific company or product is meaningless.
 
4:05 PM
Well.
Perhaps the wording is incorrect.
What would you call this effect?
 
why does it have to have a specific name?
 
zch
In a legal context, a chilling effect is the inhibition or discouragement of the legitimate exercise of natural and legal rights by the threat of legal sanction. The right that is most often described as being suppressed by a chilling effect is the US constitutional right to free speech. A chilling effect may be caused by legal actions such as the passing of a law, the decision of a court, or the threat of a lawsuit; any legal action that would cause people to hesitate to exercise a legitimate right (freedom of speech or otherwise) for fear of legal repercussions. When that fear is broug...
 
what's wrong with just "Some people overreact"?
 
@BenCollins Why not?
 
Well.
 
4:06 PM
@DeadMG If Google now adopted asm.js it would not be meaningless by any measure.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes do you know if there's anything for Monads that makes m Bools nicer to use with if/then/else?
 
I need to call the points something to preview them.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Tell that to the many failed Google products.
 
@Xeo How so?
 
Overreact does not quite imply what I am going for.
 
4:06 PM
or NaCl.
 
There's guard and when.
 
Google have failed to get plenty of things to be a big thing.
 
Ell
what @DeadMG said
 
@DeadMG Except evil.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, I currently need v <- stuff1; if v then ... else ....
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but that's only one path
 
4:07 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gotta admit, they've been pretty industrious about that.
 
@DeadMG the thing is that it's not their prototype product. If they adopt what someone else has made, it puts it in a very different context
 
Well... if then else provides two paths quite concisely :S
 
@BartekBanachewicz No, it puts it in an identical context.
fact is, Google does not have dominance of the web market.
 
Not at all.
 
Xeo
For now I have my own ifM m a b = do{ v <- m; if v then a else b }
 
4:08 PM
if Google adopts asm.js, it only matters one shit if Microsoft and Mozilla also adopt it.
 
Xeo
But that makes the code look lisp-y
 
@DeadMG Mozilla made it, that's the point.
 
I usually lift my McCarthy's conditional.
 
which only means one shit if Microsoft also adopt it.
 
Xeo
4:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That being what?
 
and possibly Apple too.
 
That sounds so nonsensical outside of context.
 
Microsoft vs Mozilla | Microsoft vs Mozilla and Google
 
Here is my point though @DeadMG. I don't think it is merely overreacting. It is not just a rare thing.
Take Magtheridon's racist joke.
 
fact is, Google alone or even Google and Mozilla do not make a useful even informal standard for web developers.
@Pawnguy7 It was a complete overreaction.
 
4:09 PM
Web functions differently than, say, C++ world does.
 
@Xeo (p -> (f, g)) x = if p x then f x else g x.
 
@DeadMG yes. But is that proper wording when half of society does it?
 
(Not Haskell notation on the lhs)
 
yeah- it's much harder for things to become a useful even informal or defacto standard.
@Pawnguy7 Yes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because the guys that Richards tweeted about showed up at the conference under the code of conduct, which they must have agreed to in some way. Ergo not censorship.
 
4:10 PM
I feel like there is more to it though.
 
then you're wrong.
 
Almost as if... you are trying to wipe people from the face of the earth.
No?
 
no.
 
Hrm.
 
attempting to wipe people from the face of the earth would be going around with a shotgun blowing their heads off.
 
Xeo
4:11 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes hm, cept I have nothing to pass (State n shiz)
 
it would not be adding them to my ignore list in chat.
 
@BenCollins (disclaimer: I don't know much about the incident) Consensual censorship is still censorship.
 
that is just me, personally, choosing to not deal with them.
 
Well.
Many people in your situation.
Might be the next Adria Richards.
 
which would be a total overreaction.
 
4:12 PM
Well yes.
But, as you said, people do that.
In such cases, does it not bear resemblance to some kind of elimination?
 
great, so we're agreed that "Overreaction" is a fine term to describe what happened.
no.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, it's not. it's a contractual obligation. "Censorship" is something that's imposed on you. Just because you can't say anything you want to say in any situation doesn't make it censorship
 
Ell
I agree with Ben here
 
at the very minimum, attempting to eliminate people would require some kind of mass-scale action.
 
Xeo
4:13 PM
man that's long
 
you can't try to eliminate people whatever you do to one guy.
 
@Xeo so many ifs :/
 
since, by definition, everyone else is not eliminated.
 
Ell
Actually. No I don't :p
I think it's still censorship, but it's consensual censorship
 
Perhaps we have different thoughts on what I meant by elimination.
 
Xeo
4:14 PM
@BartekBanachewicz well, three conditions - "valid move", "someone won", "board full (aka tie)"
 
Let's imagine a police state.
 
@BenCollins What do you think is self-censorship then?
 
What do they do to dissenters?
 
execute them and throw their bodies in a ditch.
that's elimination.
 
guys, I got a job offer to work on a google chrome-based browser. tell me that google coding style is not that bad :'(
 
4:14 PM
But that is not a form of censorship?
 
You might be able to argue that the one that got fired experienced censorship, but it depends on what his employment agreement / contract said about representing the company in public.
 
Rather a strong incentive.
 
Oh shit - my package still has not arrived and, after checking my order, I know why - I must have hit the wrong delivery option and selected 'Economy - next working day'. Bollocks - wasted a day and it's my fault:(
 
well, it's censorship, enforced by elimination.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it depends on the situation.
 
4:15 PM
@Xeo can't you compose it in a way that passes the Board along those three, and if any reports failure the chain breaks?
 
but I personally would not really describe it as censorship
it's not really something where you can say, "Just don't go public with X and you won't suffer the consequences".
 
I think I've written one of the most unreadable thing in my life, just now.
 
board >>>>> move >>>>> checkVictory >>>>> checkBoardFull
 
You are saying, censorship is... blocking things regardless, kind of?
 
if the police state just doesn't like you for any reason at all, then you suffer the aforementioned consequences.
 
4:16 PM
I've heard that if you use more > signs your code looks more Pro
 
if they learn that you even think it, they'll eliminate you.
 
Beforehand.
For example.
Content shown to the public is censored, yes?
 
anyone have any ideas with cross platform porting of code? =)
 
in hypothetical police state?
 
Yes.
 
4:17 PM
well, I wouldn't really describe it that way.
it's more like, "The regime generates all content to begin with".
 
@Ell that doesn't make sense. You're not being censored if you freely agree to it.
 
@DavePowell yeah. Step 1, use high-level programming language.
 
or "If you were to even attempt to clear negative content past the censors, you'd be executed".
 
'Your OVERCLOCKERS order will be delivered today by Craig, your DPD driver, between 16:50 and 17:50' fuck, fuck, fuck it.
 
Fair enough.
 
4:19 PM
> Platform: - Win 7 x64, MinGW 4.7.2 (rubenvb-x64 build)
hehehe
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, I might be overlooking something
 
yea well I compiled my code in in redhat /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 and the target box also using redhat is using
gcc version 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3) (GCC) )
libstdc++.so.6 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6
 
Ell
@BenCollins why not? The definition of censor doesn't involve anything to do with rights/privileges/agreement/etc.
 
"mass overreaction" just doesn't have the same ring as "virtual censorship" though :\
 
well, I'm sorry, but censorship just isn't an accurate term.
 
4:20 PM
@Xeo that was my idea, but I have to work on that a bit. But I'm much closer to understanding State anyway
 
i suspect the floating point exception error is because of this mismatch can i just ask them to separately install the said libs i compiled against and adjust in makefile?
 
@DavePowell 4.1 is old as heck
 
Ell
> examine (a book, film, etc.) officially and suppress unacceptable parts of it.
 
@DavePowell in 4 years some bugs might got fixed, yes
 
How about this.
Imagine a graduating student was giving a speech to the... whatever you call it.
And they get cut off after saying how terrible a place it was.
 
Xeo
4:21 PM
MonadPlus on Maybe might work, but that would need me to transform all the Bool stuff to Maybe, which doesn't feel right.
 
Is this not censorship?
It might be that the general usage has not followed the definition.
 
no.
reality is, that student can just walk off the campus and post his opinions online or in the newspaper or scream them from the fucking rooftops if he wants to.
 
Localised censorship is still censorship.
 
that information is not censored.
 
If somebody escaped from China, they are no longer behind the firewall.
 
4:22 PM
@Pawnguy7 that. I think the term censorship has left behind the narrowness of the word censor.
 
@Xeo I have that GameResult type, which has ` PlayerBlack | PlayerWhite | NoOneYet`. Perhaps if I add InvalidMove and BoardFull to it...
 
the difference is that China prevents people from escaping, or tries to.
campus doesn't.
 
@DeadMG But Australia doesn't.
Or Germany.
 
and people on the campus can clearly hear you shouting from the rooftop next to it everything the university doesn't want you to hear.
 
Xeo
@Bartek can you check if you got anything on Bitbucket? If not, check if you can see this: bitbucket.org/_xeo/spielplatz/src/tip/triples.hs?at=default
 
4:23 PM
the reality is, the university does not have the effective power to limit what their students and staff can and cannot hear.
 
I wasn't aware it had to be global.
 
Ineffective censorship is still censorship.
 
so that is a yes to install separately and adjust in makefile for target platform correct?
 
@Pawnguy7 It doesn't.
 
Isn't that a conflict?
 
4:24 PM
what I'm saying is that the university doesn't really have the power nor make an attempt to censor the students or staff.
 
I don't see how that matters.
 
if you're at a graduation ceremony, even if the university tries to stop you from ranting about how bad it was, that's not really censorship.
no more than people who don't want to listen to an un-funny comedian.
 
just because you're free to speak doesn't mean people have to want to listen to you.
and if they want to listen to someone else, they can.
 
@Xeo I can see it, why? Ah, private repo.
 
4:26 PM
most people in the audience are not gonna be there to listen to you ranting about how much the university sucked.
 
zch
If people decide they don't want to listen, it's not censorship.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz aye
 
zch
If you decide for people, than it is censorship.
 
@DeadMG I think he was talking about people not wanting you to speak.
@zch No, that's just abuse.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then his example was terrible.
 
4:27 PM
And your extreme focus on the particulars of his example was a terrible way to conduct an argument.
 
yeah, but he seems quite incapable of describing or discussing anything without resorting to hypothetical Hitlers
so I don't really have an awful lot of choice
 
In my example, it would be the faculty doing such things.
Not the audience.
 
I got the feeling you were the ones claiming there's no censorship without a Hitler.
Like in Australia. Oh wait.
 
@Pawnguy7 They're just representing the audience's wishes.
I'm not saying that such a case can't be censorship, because it certainly could be.
 
Are they?
 
4:30 PM
@DeadMG Why do you assume that.
 
but it's not censorship by definition.
 
I mean.
How many times have I seen it here, how much it sucks?
 
Why can't I do ctor(const x<R, C>& = x<R, C>());, again? (where ctor is a template class with parameters R, C.
 
It isn't exactly an unfound opinion.
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey You... can?
 
4:30 PM
@Pawnguy7 seen what here?
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey because what are R and C?
 
that censorship sucks?
 
@rightfold template parameter of the class ctor.
 
@DeadMG What would one call this one? It's not quite a strawman, is it?
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey no shit.
 
4:31 PM
> You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.
 
@Xeo It forgets what C is though: unknown type name 'C'
 
user1804599
What are they substituted for?
 
@DeadMG universities, or education
 
Oh, it's pretty much that, actually.
 
@rightfold: Thanks for fixing my typo.
 
user1804599
4:31 PM
@Jefffrey They cannot be deduced.
 
@rightfold std::size_t specifically 10
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not making the case that it's not censorship. Merely that it doesn't necessarily indicate censorship.
@Pawnguy7 Often. I espouse that view myself.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Look:
 
Well.
 
@DeadMG He wasn't saying it necessarily does :S
 
4:32 PM
Do you want to sit there hearing how good it is?
 
user1804599
template<typename R, typename C> ctor(x<R, C> const& = x<R, C>()) now I do new ctor() how does it know what R and C should be?
 
Many people want to make education better.
 
@Pawnguy7 No, but I accept that I'm in the minority and the event is intended as a celebration for those who passed, not as a soapbox for those of us who think it sucked.
 
And I would argue they would not be opposed to hearing such a thing.
 
@Xeo type Board = [Maybe Player] feels really weird
 
Xeo
4:33 PM
hooome~
 
user1804599
@JerryCoffin No problemo.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then I guess that we agree that it could be censorship depending on the circumstances, which isn't necessarily a helpful thing to agree on.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz That's exactly what it is, no?
More when I'm at home
 
And you said quite clearly "no" to "is this not censorship" instead of "it depends", or "could be".
 
user1804599
I like the sneaky Java bashing in the answer. :)
 
4:33 PM
@rightfold ctor is a class therefore you have to specify the template parameters (eg: ctor<10, 10>)
 
@DeadMG Fair enough. Still, there have been cases of this before, and they were not booed by the audience, but shutdown by faculty.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Class template parameters is not constructor template parameters, silly.
 
@Pawnguy7 People don't usually boo speakers, even if they don't want to listen. It's not the done thing in most Western speaking engagements.
 
@rightfold That's not bashing, just...honesty. :-)
 
hmm I like the fact that my board checking is expressed in terms of any and all
 
4:34 PM
@DeadMG Let me rephrase that. I mean public bashing of faculty after the fact.
 
user1804599
struct ctor { template<typename T> ctor(T x = T()); };
new ctor(); // illegal because what is T?
new ctor<int>(); // illegal because ctor is not a template
 
if any of the lines has all of the fields in line equal
 
@DeadMG I think it is. It makes the discussion proceed to "cool, have a nice day" or to more fruitful pastures like "so let us identify the circumstances"
 
@ScottW hiho
 
user1804599
You need a factory function.
 
4:36 PM
See here.
This is why everything takes me forever.
I get stuck on things like this.
 
then stop doing this
 
Ell
Don't you hate it when you can't see why a 10 line function fails? Gah... segfault, it will be some silly mistake... coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/112bfa40b25dbb73
 
@Pawnguy7 people tell me that I shout too much at my LoL teammates for repeating the same mistakes over and over again
 
@ScottW Howdy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have tried, but it goes like the comment viewing.
 
4:37 PM
Fuck ascenders. Let's do something else.
 
Well, that was a bad example.
just that I have been unsuccessful as of yet.
 
Ell
ahh of course
I need a pushback iterator thing
 
std::back_inserter.
 
@ScottW price range?
 
@rightfold My real example is more like this though
 
Ell
4:38 PM
@ScottW hey :) how you doing? I like mice too.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey you did not say that.
 
user1804599
Anyway that is legal.
 
@Ell You haven't made any space in v. You probably want to use std::back_inserter. Better still, just initialize it from the iterators.
 
user1804599
What is the problem?
 
@BartekBanachewicz that is certainly a frustrating situation, though. Especially when there is no apparent effort made to improve.
 
4:39 PM
@Ell I'm more of a fan of keyboards.
 
@rightfold He says he doesn't know the typename C in the default argument
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey The code compiles fine. vOv
 
user1804599
SSCCE please.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin I would do that apart from the fact I need to only use InputIterators which only support ++,* and --
 
@rightfold Sec.
 
4:40 PM
@Ell What
 
Ell
(or something like that? It prevents me from doing start + 5 anyway, because it is single pass)
 
hey @ScottW!!!
 
That makes no difference.
 
@Pawnguy7 exactly
 
Speaking of which.
 
4:40 PM
Oh, you mean to invoke the ctor. Nevermind.
 
There is basically a law at play here.
 
@Ell Oh, yeah. Still, back_inserter works. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/88063fa72bff24a9
 
That spontaneous teams in online games... never work.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin Thanks :)
 
well they do sometimes
 
4:41 PM
Perhaps. I feel it is a minority though.
 
@BartekBanachewicz If you're not in it? ;P
 
People's capacity for stupidity is just way too high.
 
around 40% of games is bearable, about 5% is really good.
 
It is like children.
All going a different way.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes roawr. I am a good player, but I have to work on my social interactions.
 
4:42 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds like solid entertainment right there.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just a guess, but I'm going to say about 90% are crud.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's why I play mostly team games.
like, with full team.
And that's why we played way more 3v3 than 5v5 in the last season, we still have a spot missing :(
 
Are there ever themed mouses?
 
@BartekBanachewicz
 
user1804599
4:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz
 
@ScottW Razer Abyssus is $49.99
@Pawnguy7 yes
 
:12968641
 
What you could do.
 
@Ell Alternatively, skip the vector and copy directly to output: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/4b0b1684c30e7f99
 
Is make it like an actual mouse.
 
4:44 PM
as for even cheaper...
 
user1804599
I want a hybrid of C++ and AWK.
 
user1804599
Install Vimium.
 
@ScottW if abyssus is too expensive, I guess the only brand that would cut it is a4Tech.
I'm not aware of any other "real" producer making cheaper mice.
 
user1804599
A Chrome plug-in. :v
 
Opera has nice keyboard navigation.
 
4:46 PM
> but this freedom is guaranteed to individuals only until their words affect someone else in a negative way
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin I used to dislike them, but I do find iterators pretty kewl
6
 
Apparently the freedom of speech does not, in fact, exist.
 
@ScottW Once you try good gear, there's no way back.
My GF has a DeathAdder, and she only appreciated it once she tried using some other mouse
 
@Pawnguy7 usually your freedoms are bounded by others' freedoms.
 
@ScottW because?
I personally don't like it because it's too small for me.
 
4:48 PM
@rightfold, apparently I can't give an example because they all work :/
 
user1804599
vOv
 
I have this one ^
it's great
 
user1804599
Looks like the ultimate waste of money.
 
Well said.
 
it's extremely ergonomic
 
user1804599
4:49 PM
inb4 sais a mac user
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes. Anyway, I think I know what they meant - say, if you are bullying somebody - but I think in reality, it is a very thin line, that is rather subjective.
 
I mean I haven't found a mouse that lays better in my hand
also the big side wing is cool
 
@BartekBanachewicz my friend has that too
 
which is also rarely found
 
That is a mouse?
 
4:49 PM
@Pawnguy7 yep
 
@BartekBanachewicz But all the Razer mice seem to have those horrible, gawdawful cord things hanging off the end. Sorry, but mice most assuredly should not have cords.
 
Or is it a spaceship?
 
@ScottW fuck the appeal.
@JerryCoffin gaming mice pretty much always have cords
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz what on earth :P
That looks cray cray
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...which renders them overpriced garbage, IMO.
 
4:50 PM
@ScottW I bought it because it holds well, looks weren't that important
@JerryCoffin excuse me?
 
@ScottW sup?
 
wireless mice tend to be extemely unbalanced
 
also lag and the need to recharge
 
I am going to laugh so much.
 
4:51 PM
I use a touchpad :\
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz unbalanced? o.O
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can I join you?
 
@Ell weight distribution is improper
 
I need a good laugh
 
also you rarely can modify the weight of them
 
4:51 PM
@Ell Yes. Mice use their tails for balance. Everyone knows this.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes heh, good one
 
Xeo
hooooome~
 
good mice allow you to move the weights inside to change the overall weight and balance
it matters a lot
 
@ScottW Yay!! Who needs a mouse anyway?
 
Yes, and it also forcibly means it has a cord.
 
4:52 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Okay, you're excused. Just don't try to push those inferior corded monstrosities on us ever again, and you may someday even be forgiven.
 
Anybody here use a touchpad?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mice have never felt the same since they stopped having steel balls.
 
Because everyone knows cords are the only magical way of allowing to adjust weight.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it doesn't leave much space for the battery
 
user1804599
@Pawnguy7 I do.
 
4:53 PM
@rightfold Ok. Do you use one or two hands to use it?
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin What, you're one of those cordless mice guys?
 
@JerryCoffin after you beat me in the game that requires actual mouse play with your "wireless monstrosity"
 
user1804599
One. :v
 
I see some people using two, I don't understand how...
 
user1804599
Well, depends.
 
user1804599
4:53 PM
If my left hand is on my keyboard I control it with my right hand and vice-versa.
 
@ScottW Like cancer, that's curable with early detection.
 
Well yes.
 
@JerryCoffin Gaming is all about speeeeed.
 
I am talking about two hands at the same time.
 
user1804599
4:54 PM
And if they are both on my keyboard, well, I don’t know. I just pick one. Usually right.
 
Laughing so much right now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes price
 
One to press button and one to move it, apparently.
I don't think I am coordinated enough to do that effectively.
 
@DeadMG got to your first check-point - 6,666 rep : D
 
user1804599
I don’t have to press it.
 
4:54 PM
I mean it's like 50% more or something
 
lol
 
user1804599
I only have to tap it.
 
I have R7 BTW.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Do you honestly think you're generating more data with a mouse than you can transmit over a short-distance wireless link?
 
4:54 PM
Oh right.
 
@JerryCoffin Yessssssssss.
 
@JerryCoffin very expensive wireless link
 
7 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@ScottW Once you try good gear, there's no way back.
 
Although I have seen them use it even then.
 
@ScottW Oh baby I know your heart is on fire for me <3
 
user1804599
4:54 PM
I can press it if I want, but I can do that anywhere on the area except in the bottom right as that would trigger secondary click.
 
mice have 1kHz polling
with like a few kDPI
go figure.
 
@JerryCoffin Bandwidth<> latency.
 
@ScottW <3 <3 <3
 
@ScottW <3 <3 <3 <3
 
Ell
Why can't we have a wireless mouse which charges via mousepad?
 
user1804599
4:55 PM
And I use two fingers to scroll, pan, zoom and rotate, three to change workspaces and four to go to the desktop.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Should I remind you of this morning?
 
@MartinJames And you think electricity travels faster through a wire than a radio signal travels through the air?
 
@Xeo meh, I don't care any more.
 
@ScottW it's like a sandwich
@ScottW blushing
 
If I didn't hurt someone else, I quickly stop reminiscing about my fuck ups.
 
4:57 PM
@rightfold, does this look legal? (assuming sob::bitboard<i, j> exists and works fine)?
 
It's not like I can do anything to revert it.
 
@JerryCoffin Nope. I do think, however, that wired comms do not have to share any bandwidth with other devices and there are no collisions.
 
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@Jefffrey Sure.
 
@ScottW Putting up with a cord that keeps you from moving the mouse where you want, when you want is much worse.
 
@ell there were some models, no real attention
 
Xeo
4:58 PM
@JerryCoffin Never had that problem
 
@JerryCoffin Small annoyance every couple days > constant annoyance.
 
@MartinJames Why would a mouse be sharing bandwidth with anything else or have any collisions?
 
@jerry how does it keep you from doing that, again
 
@JerryCoffin 'Wireless'
 
@BartekBanachewicz By being there.
 
4:59 PM
@BartekBanachewicz fwiw today a bad typesystem screwed me for 30 minutes on a bug that should've been compile time
 
yeah, I also prefer spend some time fixing the cord, than finding myself suddenly in the middle of the night without power in my mouse ;0
 
I mean, ow.
 
@MartinJames ...and? Do you somehow believe you can only have one wireless channel in use in the whole world?
 

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