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12:35 AM
Oh man they removed the swipe-left-to-go-back-gesture in Safari
I got so used to that
 
i like the finder tabs :)
 
Yeah me too
And the tags
they are really nice
Don't understand why they ported apple maps to mac though. It's not like a single sane person will use it over google maps
 
they have to try. If they don't even try people will take it as a sign of weakness / giving up.
 
Hmm also true
 
plus there are plenty of non-sane mac users.
 
12:44 AM
Apple fanboys
right forgot
haha
 
who will use it exclusively now that it is an option simply because apple made it, and they'll swear up and down all day long that it is ten million percent better than google.
 
and they will be forever, metaphorically and literally, lost.
 
1:29 AM
Do you people actually use Macs? :)
Any sane person knows that you should use Windows 7.
Not Win 8 though.
 
user457812
1:45 AM
I use a Mac. Better for development.
 
user457812
Can't beat a POSIX friendly environment for it.
 
user457812
Would use Linux, but the desktop software's not there yet.
 
2:10 AM
I love linux. I use a mac because you can't get a better laptop. Also, thats a funny joke, about windows.
sane, non technical, sheeple maybe.
 
Ubuntu!
 
(unless they are actually doing windows development and have no other choice. which they do. because vm's)
 
I use a Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04
 
I need to set up my ubuntu desktop machine, I haven't since I moved.
I wanna see 13.04 :)
 
I had to change back to the 2D from 3d because it was sooo slow
I have a crappy computer though
 
2:20 AM
yah, I remember you saying that...
I put a GTX 680 into that machine ~a year ago. well worth it.
Im not a gamer but I love secondlife :)
 
I am not a programmer...I just act like it
And i am also a terrible actor haha
 
Nebulae, they just released 13.10 couple days ago.
Also Linux FTW
 
nice, I saw 14.04 is coming in march too
 
Hello
 
hallo
 
2:33 AM
I am going to start downloading Mavericks
It doesn't wipe data, right?
 
almost made a joke.
no, it doesnt
 
April :)
Not sure if you're trolling, but that's what the number after decimal point stands for, the month.
 
huh, makes sense.
 
2:47 AM
Is using Async necessary for loading ImageViews in Widget
 
Is this some sort of a internal joke? Or just shitty marketing? (That they make it look intentionally shitty so you want to buy the retina proBook)
 
GirlTalk
 
3:18 AM
the DJ?
 
yeah
his Oh No Cd is the just great
 
 
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4:57 AM
morning
 
5:43 AM
Anybody have any luck manipulating Google Spreadsheets via an Android app? I've been trying for a couple days to set something up. The Google Spreadsheets API v3 documentation is incomplete, and the examples / libraries I can find seem to be outdated.
 
6:00 AM
morning
 
goood morning
 
what up
 
7:01 AM
Hey Anders!
 
7:23 AM
uuh I was gone long :D
not up much here...started working... and for you?
 
Hey Guys
 
talking to China
what are you working Anders?
Oscar is this a new job?
 
Some java, some android, some more java, support, expansions, etc. :)
 
no ssdda
(so happy could use that :D)
 
what is ssdda?
 
7:30 AM
same shit different day anyway ;)
 
no shit
 
it was few years ago kinda a "hype" to write that in forums here I think
 
And our rules says what about chat abbreviations ? :)
 
I'm above rules.
 
Highly doubt that :)
 
7:32 AM
nerd
 
Reed, is that describing the whole room ? :)
 
obviously
 
you mad? :()
 
I talk to yall more than I talk to my irl friends
haha
 
It's not about what you doubt, but about what I know. And since I'm a God, I know everything.
 
7:33 AM
blah blah
 
no I am just perturbed a bit
 
AND NOW KNEEL!
 
is all I hear ;)
pertubed=?
 
Oscar is little cocky
haha
annoyed
 
YOU WILL FEEL MY WRATH WEAKLING!
 
7:35 AM
are you talking to Anders or me?
 
Do we care Reed? :)
 
to anders obviously
 
haha
 
Why are you perturbed ?
 
Oscar has been in model school too long
 
7:36 AM
they see me rolling, they hating...
 
Yeah that annoys me as well Reed ;)
 
user457812
@AndersMetnik Our rules say nothing about abbreviations, FYI.
 
user457812
What they do discourage heavily is chat-speak. Abbreviations alone aren't chat-speak.
 
oh Damn! nil just slammed poor Anders :p
 
"chat abbreviations" == chat-speak
 
user457812
7:37 AM
Incorrect.
 
looks like someone made it up almost to the top of my stack-persons-I-like-list :>
 
user457812
Chat-speak is "u r 2 dum lol"
 
Ohh ok ofc. it ain't then
 
user457812
"ofc" is chat speak.
 
No it ain't it's is the exact same thing as ssdda
 
user457812
7:38 AM
I should say that acronyms aren't chat-speak rather than abbreviations.
 
ofc = chat abbreviation of "of cause"
 
user457812
It's not "of cause"
 
user457812
SSDDA is an acronym, "ofc" is an abbreviation.
 
user457812
Do not argue this with me unless you want me to actually enforce the rules for once.
3
 
many people think ofc == office.
 
7:39 AM
Never heard that Vera
 
when we chat on whatsapp, they say "ttyl, in ofc"
 
user457812
I haven't seen anyone ever use it for "office"
 
speaking of acronyms... do you guys know recursive acronyms? like GNU for example, meaning "Gnu is not Linux" which again means "Gnu is not Linux is not Linux" and so on :>....
 
but thanks for the enlightenment
 
yep.
 
user457812
7:40 AM
GNU is "GNU's Not Unix"
 
that's what I wanted to say and failed miserably
 
two more years of model school for Oscar :P
 
there's not even an "L" in GNU and I still messed it up :D
 
true.
 
THIS one time I wanted to sound smart :(
 
7:41 AM
Office has ofc
GNU?? === Linux?
Give me a break!
 
user457812
And I see the no-starring-nil rule has failed miserably once again.
 
user457812
GNU isn't Linux, but Linux desktops often include GNU software. The distinction is a little blurry because Linux kind of sucks without GNU and GNU without Linux means you're probably using Hurd.
 
can you explain me? What is that "no-starring-nil rule"?
Whenever I asked, they said it means nothing!
 
don't click the star on the right side of his posts
 
user457812
Vera, read the rules again.
 
7:43 AM
I've read it.
Who put that star?
 
apparently not you (btw: you can ignore this rule)
 
what happens if anyone puts a star?
 
it's starred and will appear on the right side
 
user457812
The rule's a joke because I tended to be the only thing in the sidebar for a long time.
 
is it not good?
 
7:44 AM
so if you see an interesting post here (mostly images :D) you starr it, so others who come in, can see this epic image later
 
user457812
Not really, since I rarely say anything worth marking with a star.
 
hmm, then Nil must be getting notifications on who starred his post.
 
user457812
.. No, but I do see the rather obvious stars appearing next to them.
 
oh.
somebody is teasing you Nil.
 
user457812
Did I mention I can cancel stars? I can cancel stars.
 
7:47 AM
don't know.
Nobody stars my messages. :(
5
 
user457812
Only messages where people are suffering get stars
 
I am not the star of this room!
You are.
 
I'm a VSP right now... so cool, finally getting famous.
 
user457812
Vegan squirrel poker?
 
Very Starred Person.
;)
 
user457812
7:48 AM
brb cancelling your stars
 
Alright I am out! later
 
Did somebody say
"rules"?
 
laters mate
 
Yes I rule!
 
user457812
All the rules
 
user457812
7:53 AM
Your pony isn't a unicorn. I think this might be a problem.
 
:(
 
user457812
That said, mine's a bird with a pot for a hat eating a man, so I'm not in a good position to judge.
 
mine is an unborn unicorn
because unicorns hatch from eggs
 
Oh I thought its Bambi
 
user457812
Bambi wasn't hatched from an e- well, actually, you never know.
 
8:01 AM
:|
 
user457812
8:23 AM
My giant snowpaw siamese cat has just decided that sleeping under the covers of my bed is perfect.
 
hey there \o
samsung seems to go all the way into the wrong direction. Latest rumors: they do apple style and use authentication chips to prevent third party accessory
 
user457812
And the cat decided under the covers was too hot, so he has occupied the space between me and the laptop
 
user457812
Which wasn't large enough, so I had to move.
 
user457812
Because the cat's huge.
 
8:42 AM
o/
 
\o/
 
9:07 AM
I wonder since an hour whats wrong and just figured it out: I have forgotten to get a coffee... shame on me
 
user457812
💤
 
13.10 kills me...
@Rezoom if you haven't updated yet, don't do it!
I have one issue fixed and got 10 new...
 
hi !
 
Uh... no worry. ^^ I will wait for your affirmation. ^
 
9:27 AM
I don't do the update since 12.10, I'm too disappointed by Ubuntu... I'd like to go back to 9.04
 
user457812
Should use slackware.
 
I switched to xubuntu in early 12? When they made unity the default shit
 
don't get me started on unity...
next laptop, i think i'll just go with a full debian
 
exactly, thats why I switched to xfce :D
fast, small, performance pure
 
windows ftw ;)
 
my eyes hurt after the first color line
 
uh. I will fail horrible at this test...
 
good thing I'm not color blind.... oh wait
 
I see strips and strips
it is like the after effect of a look at the sun
 
10:01 AM
stop taking the test then? :)
 
no, just a break after each line :D
just one left..
 
to much time ;)
 
Your score: 10
the green/bluish part is where I messed up
so the third test was my weakest
 
109
:D
 
11:04 AM
I'm getting a null pointer exception, that if I log the value previously with a Log.v, it's not null, but if I don't, the NPE is thrown. Sigh...
 
11:17 AM
Ahhh, got it. Race condition. Sigh.
 
@WarrenFaith Danm your right :-i
 
:) nice to see that you made two mistakes in 3(4) words :D
 
"danm your"
 
you're*
 
11:23 AM
At long last, after much trial, I am back to the same point I was in my code prior to re-factoring. Slightly ahead, actually, due to a simpler design allowing me to sneak a few upgrades while refactoring.
 
It's the strips man, they messing up my brain ;)
 
offline?!
 
don't know. reddit hug to hard? ^
 
d....a.....f......u......q......
I feel already sick
 
56 ! boom :D
 
12:51 PM
question of the day.... i've got a board game (like a checkers board) how do i map all the points of the board game (so that i know where to move from and to when its time to move the checker) any ideas?
 
a board game doesn't change the size, so a 2d array should be sufficient :D
 
that simple? i just have a token that will move around on a board and i need to keep track of where he is and depending on the direction he is facing depends on where he will go next. So you think all that could be accomplished with a 2d array?
 
yepp
I made once a small tile map for a sim city game
I used a simple 2d array where the first dimension is the row, the second the column
 
hmmm ok i may have to play around with that some
 
Depending of the size and the comfort you might also use a Map<Integer, Map<Integer, Integer>>
or similar
the third Integer could also be a "Cell" Pojo containing information about the cell of the board
 
1:05 PM
that would be really handy
 
Same amount of fields as chess right ?
 
the beginner levels will be around 15 squares.... then as your get further into the game id like it to grow.
 
Ohh fair
Then nvm :)
It's for chess there is a very easy way to do it ;)
because of the amount of squares
(to make sure that you don't move off board that is)
if you want to read about it:
 
i want them to be able to move off the board (and die)
 
In checkers ?
Alternative checkers game then ;)
 
1:10 PM
its kinda like checkers but i was using that as an example
 
it's easier to understand
 
Well I'd use int[][]
 
1:25 PM
Good day everyone.
 
hola
 
Guten tag Mistrfu.

Anyone in here worked with Oracle DB / spring ?
 
howdy
 
1:41 PM
'lo
 
I got a score of 11 :)
 
gratz
and quite fast
 
I wish I have calibrated my monitor now.
 
Ahh lolz ;)
 
2:01 PM
@javadaskari rejected. The last two random pings from you are showing your lack of google knowledge. This skill is mandatory to get a slight chance to get access here....
@Amit rejected because you used a comment on SO to ask the same question you want to ask here and you are stalking me! Stop it
 
Pig in blankets
 
2:18 PM
A year later
 
2:36 PM
Its too early for stalkers
 
I love it how they apologize a dozen time and say that they know that it is wrong.... BUT...
 
Morning Nebulae
 
Good morning
 
@Nebulae I like you. I still want to know more about you :) What will you have for breakfast?
 
bulletproof coffee
 
2:42 PM
I don't even know what that is.
 
where is my popcorn?
 
I had a bagel.
I think you guys would like my bagel.
 
swiggety swagel
 
It was an everything bagel with olive cream cheese.
 
I hate olives...
 
2:43 PM
Ok, veggie cream cheese for Warren.
 
I do a keto diet. I don't bagel.
 
:'(
 
I bacon.
 
I jsut found out the tick I found on me last week tested positive for Lime Disease, I needed that bagel.
 
iBacon heehee
 
2:44 PM
 
Today someone informed me that his wife expecting, I was in my own thoughts and instead of saying is it a boy or girl I was like
 
something about that article really irks me.
 
"Yeah? Is it a man or a woman"
 
hahha
nice.
"my wife is a man"
not that theres anything wrong with that
 
Downloading mavericks. 2 minutes and 2.5GB is done cool
 
3:04 PM
Took me 2 hours yesterday
 
I said this too early the download got cancelled :/
 
@CarlAnderson Welcome. Please read the room rules.
 
@WarrenFaith just told me that he is stupid. Muhahahha!
 
You little bastard! Be happy that you are out of office right now!
 
Gnihihihihi!
 
3:10 PM
Thanks @Ahmad.
 
But, in case this makes you feel any better, I don't get it with the damn "ems" attributes of the textview. -_-
 
what should i do today...
a slot machine maybe?
another wallpaper
 
Stuff
 
Anyone here in a mood to talk about higher level android design?
 
A juggling app!
 
3:11 PM
maybe add more features to my other wallpaper?
 
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Q: Image management: When to recycle bitmaps?

Carl AndersonI've read When should I recycle a bitmap using LRU Cache and several other questions here, and am still struggling with OutOfMemoryExceptions. But I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm taking over an app that displays a tremendous amount of images. Primarily this is done in an grid view, using a subc...

 
maybe work on my trivia game and get the play services figured out.
 
Carl, I would try to do a memory analyse in your app
 
I've run the MAT tool to look for suspected Memory Leaks
 
I would bet that you somehow have a memory leak with the wrong usage of context :)
 
3:15 PM
the only thing it complains about is this:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14610350/android-memory-leak-in-apache-harmonys-jarurlconnectionimpl
 
if you show a gridview over and over again, you could also think about reusing the activity while switching the adapter for the grid instead of starting a new activity
 
hrm, that's a thought
 
mumbles something about fragments
 
yeah well, the previous dev's idea of using fragments was "mv *Activity.java *Fragment.java"
needless to say there's enough work to keep me busy for quite a while
 
so your problems are bigger than an out of memory exception.
 
3:18 PM
I have tons of problems in the app, but the only one that's currently crashing it is the OOM
 
thought the OOM might be a symptom: so refactor to fragments and maybe that might already be enough :)
 
public class CoolNewFragment extends Activity... thats right, right?
 
nebulae - you also need to have static methods in the original activity that launch the fragment! Duh!
but getting back to the question - is there a point where I should be recycling the bitmaps?
is it only in the adapter's getView function?
 
there comes a point, and this point is different for every person, but there comes a point where you just gotta make a new project.
2
 
normally yes
 
3:21 PM
will try to get that implemented first then and re-evaluate from there I guess
 
how would that work? if the convertView != null, recycle the bitmap before assigning the next bitmap?
 
well you also have to check to make sure it's not in the cache too
 
or would you make a viewholder obj and when you set the bitmap, recycle the one thats already there?
ahha.
I'm interested in this, will you report back?
 
When I say filter, what icon do you imagine?
 
the funnel from excel
 
3:25 PM
That's a good one, any other ideas anyone?
 
nebulae - I'll answer my own question if I figure out a solution
 
oh wow you're in Seattle too nebulae?
also, love the tenacity of that cat :D
 
> Amazon uses automated pricing algorithms which look at other sites to set Amazon's prices. Many other sites use automated pricing algorithms which cue off of Amazon. Sometimes, that creates feedback loops like this.
 
3:35 PM
I remember a Galaxy Nexus selling price 4 billion?
 
Does anybody have any experience with basic "CRUD" operations on a Google Spreadsheet from an Android application? There are several examples available but many seem to be from ages ago (2010-2012).
My starting point was the Google Spreadsheets API v3 documentation, but the examples seem to be incomplete.
 
No experience with that Aaron, sorry.
 
Lol... Movember marketing tactics?
 
but that are trillions I think.
Billion in german. ^^
 
3:39 PM
they were internally thinking of preventing merchants from setting prices that high, but it's obviously not a high priority for them
<-- ex-Amazon
 
Hey ya never know who might have loads of cash and just really wants to shave RIGHT NOW
shut up and take my money (skritch)
 
lol
 
I will do two things this evening: 1. I will reinstall 13.04 on my laptop and, if there is time, I will read about a library for my game...
can someone of you login to steam?
I can't seem to be able to login from linux..
HA I love it when I just need to read a few words to know I don't need to read further...
> Bullet is a 3D...
3D is not what I need... skip that library :D
 
how is 13.04
 
3:56 PM
better than 13.10
 
Is it worth the switch to from 12.04
 
is 12.04 an LTS version?
 
Yeah
is 13.04?
 
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