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user784668
TIL that CLR doesn't allow objects to be bigger than 2GB.
 
@Fanael a single object?
 
user784668
@A.H. yes
 
user784668
@A.H. cue arrays
 
wth is it
 
3:10 PM
Do you what I find hard: to develop the most intuitive interface for one of my simplest apps
Only took me a month to develop it
and spent a week on re-writing it already
and I have not change any functionality
just to make it more intuitive and user friendly
 
@Fanael Fixed in 4.5.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 you need golden triangles
 
I use the principle of "simplicity"
simplest interface possible
all the tasks are been taken care of by the backend logic
 
pretty much
 
user784668
3:13 PM
Still can't create an array of 4e9 integers.
 
@Fanael Probably took that int index shit from Java.
 
I reduced 8-10 controls on the first page to 2
 
user784668
@DeadMG or from crap C++
 
Is there someone that have attended or is attending university?
 
pretty much all of us I assume
 
3:19 PM
@Jeffrey I am attending
 
I suppose my attendance could be debatable...
 
How do you (as uni students group) manage the sharing of notes and stuff with your co-students? Dropbox? Mega?
 
notes?
 
@melak47 lol, I know what you mean. Sadly :(
 
notes? lol
 
3:20 PM
how do you take notes if you never attend :p
 
user784668
@Jeffrey Outside.
 
internet + lecture slides + optional course book for me
 
@Jeffrey Don't Xerox them :)
 
though usually if I have to share something uni related I put it in my public dropbox folder and link it to them
@MartinJames haha
 
@Jeffrey dropbox is convenient, sometime mail is just faster though
 
3:21 PM
Don't you like help each other by sharing notes (within your university, of course)?
@A.H. not efficient with 200 students though
 
mailing list
also github, depends on whats being shared
 
Oh come on. A mailing list is a bad idea, and you know it.
 
;p
 
Anybody here use Windows 7?
 
user784668
No.
 
3:23 PM
Mostly PDFs, images (photos of notes) or entire ebooks
 
user784668
Everybody uses Windows 95.
 
How would you go about sharing them?
 
@Pawnguy7 I do.
 
@Pawnguy7 I am on seven
 
Dropbox is a mess. You can't even define privileges/access for each person you are sharing with.
 
3:24 PM
Ah. So, know the little icons on the bottom right of the taskbar? Say, volume, battery, etc? Well, I suppose battery is just for laptops actually.
 
@Pawnguy7 Yeah?
 
@MartinJames what?
@Fanael lol
 
How can I get a list of them? I seem to recall they used to dissapear and such, and I never knew how to get them back. Or get a list of them, or select which ones are there
 
right click taskbar
properties
under notification area click customize
 
^
 
3:26 PM
@Pawnguy7 click the arrow next to the tray icons to restore currently active but hidden ones, click the customize link to configure all hidden/visible ones
 
^ much better solution
 
Hm indeed.
 
generally right click on stuff or left click buttons / arrows till you get to some sort of an options window
 
@Fanael C++ has std::size_t index and can support >2GB objects.
 
user784668
@DeadMG yes, but I was talking about crap C++, not C++. They're unrelated.
 
3:30 PM
Ah. It would seem I had it listed all of them, and the one in question... isn't listed. It was... some kind of sticky notes.
Which I apparently forgot the name of.
 
@Fanael C++ has never had a 2GB limit as a language limitation.
 
user784668
@DeadMG But crap C++ is not C++. Crap C++ is the language where you use int for indexing, C++ is where you use std::size_t.
 
right, but you could just replace that int if you need >2GB later on.
whereas in Java, the int is hardcoded into the language.
 
Int is bad for indexing?
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 yes
 
3:36 PM
To be clear, define indexing.
 
array[i]
 
@Pawnguy7 its signed
 
So iteration using for, etc?
Oh. Good point.
 
also bad (for that kind of iteration).
there's no problem for some code, of course, but generic code should use std::size_t
 
3:43 PM
@DeadMG I always just use size_t, not std::size_t :E
 
eh, they're pretty much the same thing and for the same purpose.
in fact, I'd be surprised if they were ever defined to be different
 
I don't understand how people can just have a light salad for lunch
don't they get hungry?
 
they are not human
 
is that why 'real humans' are all fat? :p
 
yay, I'm on my way to become human then!
 
3:48 PM
welcome to humanity, where fatties rule with a iron extra soft fist!
 
Imagine you had a bunch of subclasses of the same thing. Let's say they are all animals. How do you name them? Let's take a sheep. AnimalSheep, SheepAnimal, or Sheep?
 
Yeah, else a long inheritance tree could get tiresome to type.
 
user784668
Ship
 
Ell
Bear
 
3:51 PM
Good point.
 
UniverseMatterGalaxySolarsystemSolEarthLifeformAnimalSheep;
 
user784668
Sheep derives from Universe?
 
Well, before the big bang, I'm not sure :)
 
@Pawnguy7 Sheep. Look up the Smurf naming convention.
 
3:55 PM
Smurfs have a naming convention?
 
user784668
@MartinJames yes
 
Yup.
> When almost every class has the same prefix. IE, when a user clicks on the button, a SmurfAccountView passes a SmurfAccountDTO to the SmurfAccountController. The SmurfID is used to fetch a SmurfOrderHistory which is passed to the SmurfHistoryMatch before forwarding to either SmurfHistoryReviewView or SmurfHistoryReportingView. If a SmurfErrorEvent occurs it is logged by SmurfErrorLogger to ${app}/smurf/log/smurf/smurflog.log
lol
 
user784668
Namespaces.
 
Hehe.. smurfonomy.
 
@MooingDuck Yep. And perhaps.
 
4:00 PM
Does this include exceptions?
 
Meanwhile, in the tumbleweed room: 'The last message was posted 13 hours ago'.
 
So, I just published my first article on my blog. Tell me what you guys think.
 
I hope this isn't another one of those "BIG BREASTS? ON A WOMAN?” posts.
 
@Rapptz It looks like it kinda is actually.
:)
 
4:16 PM
@Rapptz Funny thing is that I can easily guess who've read the article and who didn't.
Think of it as a bait and switch.
 
I made it quite clear I haven't read it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The answer is none of us. No human could've read it in the time you posted and when we commented. :P
 
Anyway I just finished
 
That was fast.
 
How do you define success?
 
4:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know. I read at a decent pace. I guess I agree with you that the tits don't bug me. I don't think it should bother anyone but eh. As for your example of seeing it less and less, you forgot about fighting games. They keep getting bigger and bigger. I have no idea why.
 
user784668
lol LoL
 
@Rapptz I don't think you can make an example out of Ivy Valentine.
That said, I don't really play fighting games. So that's probably why I did not talk about it.
It's out of my field of expertise.
 
@DeadMG Ping me when you get a chance. Having clang troubles.
 
user784668
There's an ongoing effort to implement <regex> in libstdc++.
 
My ass there is.
 
4:21 PM
@ThePhD if (rand() % 2) ping();
 
Oh, hey there DeadMG
So apparently my Language Options in clang are slaying me.
 
Is it possible for me to cast from super class to subclass when objects are not dynamically allocated (not pointers);
 
When I turn them off, I get no exceptions but my files get parsed as raw C files instead of C++. It's pretty sweet, having namespace as a type name.
 
Why did open world platformer games die
 
There's.... hundreds?
Minecraft Rayman Assasin's Creed etc. etc. etc. etc.
 
4:25 PM
@ThePhD Yeah. You have to set a number of Langopts to get what you would think of as "normal" C++. Have a look here to see the ones I set as default. (Of course, if you just stole the Wide code like I suggested, you would already have this)
 
Well I guess Rayman isn't open world enough.
 
Minecraft is a platformer?
Assassin's Creed is a platformer?
I'm dumb and put platform
 
Do you define open world as non-linear, or... storyless? (and hence the above)
 
free roaming & non-linear
 
So Super Metroid, Kirby Superstar, e.g. -- those generations fo games?
 
4:27 PM
But with premade content?
 
@DeadMG I read that and applied those same language options. Still exploding.
 
show me what you've got
 
The worst part is, there's "up to date" tutorials I'm using to make this go as well and it's just not even working. It's pretty ridiculous.
 
@Rapptz There are platforms.
 
@ThePhD I was thinking more Super Mario 64, Sonic, Billy Hatcher
 
4:28 PM
@Rapptz Those are still level based.
 
But yeah, anything open-world, free roaming, etc
@EtiennedeMartel yeah to an extent, but they weren't too linear.
Did anyone else like Billy Hatcher?
I think that IP died out
 
It died out quick fast and in a hurry because it was just Sonic redone.
I distinctly remember the cover art being in the exact same pose as sonic has been on covers of games for like the past decade.
It may look dense but really, that's the jist of it so far.
 
don't use CompilerInvocation
there's a reason why I skipped it and it's because that shit is impossible to make work.
 
Well, that explains a lot.
 
yes
 
4:36 PM
"The Compiler Invocation Makes things easier" Fuck you, Laorabia
Loarabia?
Whatever, his/her/its name is now Labia.
 
dunno
 
Flappy, smelly, period-smeared labia.
 
but honestly, IME it was almost impossible to get the thing to work correctly
 
I hope it drowns in its own blood.
 
I gave up and worked directly with the objects themselves.
 
4:36 PM
^ that mother fucker
 
even then, it took a considerable amount of trial and error
yeah, I tried those tuts too
couldn't make anyshit happen
also, 7 months is way out of date.
my recommendation is, just rip the entire Semantic/ClangTU class from Wide and start from there.
 
Oh, Lounge<Chat> has a repo
 
because there's a lot of stuff where Clang deletes your objects without telling you and that kind of thing that you will have to dick around with if you start afresh
 
The best part is, llvm has its own OwningPtr class.
But it can't even let you use it with all of its functions that take ownership of pointers.
And the wonderful doxygen documentation doesn't tell you who is owning what, so.
Shitty Compiler Devs; everyone's gotta be programmin' that C.
 
yeah
 
4:39 PM
ohai
 
no C++11 -> no unique_ptr and they don't want to work with the refcounted in some cases
so it's a plain old owning T* jobby in some places.
 
@TonyTheLion I watched Crank I, wonder if it was better.
 
@ThePhD It was worse?
 
@DeadMG If they have a fully compliant C++11 compiler now, they can refactor and ditch all the old semantics, and just keep building against the N and N-1 versions, which will always be C++11 compatible.
 
@ThePhD Right. They could have done that since about Clang 3.0, but don't want to.
 
4:41 PM
@TonyTheLion Less worse, but it was still horrible.
 
IME
LLVM is not that bad.
 
because they have a lot of "Always owned by LLVM" stuff.
 
It wasn't nearly as good as those MIT kids cracked it up to be.
 
user784668
GCC is better: it has its own GC.
 
4:41 PM
Clang is really kinda bad, though.
 
Fuckers lied to me. Never trust Ivy League mother fuckers. =l
 
frankly
compared to every other code generator and C++ compiler, LLVM and Clang are still the best shit you'll ever see
 
@DeadMG That's what makes it scary.
 
yeah
 
It's always "best by virtue of not being worst"
 
4:42 PM
but honestly, LLVM is fine, mostly.
 
It seems like that's a lot of the case with a lot of software.
 
it's Clang that I hate.
I only found like, one place in LLVM where it has that shit
 
TIL people actually pronounce pedometers and pedo-meters
 
Ell
Which bit does lllvm do and what does clang do?
 
@Rapptz For realsies?
 
4:44 PM
@ThePhD I guess so.
 
@Ell LLVM is a code-generator. Clang does the other bits.
 
31
A: Why would you use the keyword const if you already know variable should be constant?

Lightness Races in Orbit Apart from specifying to readers of the code that you may cause errors if you modify this variable(you can use comments to do this) Not "may"; will cause errors in your program. A C++ compiler will enforce it with compilation failures and diagnostic messages ("compiler errors"), with no ne...

omg so this happened overnight
31 yay
 
excuse my Paint-diagram
 
user784668
I love how the boring part is split to "Lex", "Parse" and "Sema" and the interesting parts are clamped together as "LLVM".
 
Ell
4:57 PM
I can't imagine what work the code generator does
surely you have to pass it bytecode or something anyway?
 
@Fanael Well, what really matters is that Wide and Clang use the same component to perform the job. You're right that there's a couple bits I missed out.
@Ell An in-memory tree created by the Sema.
really, the separation between sema and codegen, I don't understand as well as I'd like.
the Sema actually handles quite a bit of codegen stuff.
 
> SOAP [1] is a lightweight protocol
 
the only thing I've heard about SOAP clearly suggested that it was infact quite heavyweight.
 
That's why that's funny.
 
user784668
> It relies on XML Information Set
 
user784668
5:03 PM
"lightweight" sure
 
@MartinJames Xerox: probably the best printer troll ever, lol
 
5:15 PM
@ThePhD I've changed the chat's master repo name, so update your upstream remote, if you have one.
 
Xeo
Okay, wtf. Amazon's telling me that it can't ship 6 drinking glasses to any of my registered addresses.
 
@CatPlusPlus how's that chat alternative coming along? :3
 
Super fast, because everyone is writing code like crazy.
 
Ell
Oh we have a repo Now?
 
^
 
user784668
5:24 PM
lol
 
user784668
The only reason I have Ruby installed is that vim depends on it.
 
We picked a server tech of C#. What's our client tech going to be? C#?
 
Xeo
Eh, I thought web client?
 
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Script# looks like it's working, so I'd try that.
 
@CatPlusPlus I assume that is sarcastic
 
Ell
5:34 PM
I thought you guys were using python
 
@CatPlusPlus I thought we only had skeleton code
 
@CatPlusPlus Wow, you're doing a very good job at tracking progress.
 
user784668
@A.H. sarcasm
 
oops
 
user784668
I dunno nothing about this project, but I know enough about the loungers to detect sarcasm.
 
5:36 PM
@EtiennedeMartel See I don't know if that's sarcasm or not.
 
@CatPlusPlus It isn't.
 
Ell
I still can't detect sarcasm
 
Repo link?
 
its hard with text
 
0
Q: Has Jon Skeet been downvoted?

CaptJakMy fingers tremble and my stomach clenches as I type this... I wonder if anyone knows (and if they are still alive), if Jon Skeet has been down voted? And I mean a real down vote due to error, not a down vote which only later resulted in being un-down voted because the person who issued the down...

 
user784668
5:37 PM
WTF
 
Jon was downvoted only once. But - INSERT AMAZING MYTHICAL STATEMENT -. — Bart 21 secs ago
 
user784668
He was downvoted only once. By himself.
 
Xeo
No?
 
python -c 'if len(line) > 2: print line'
 
@CatPlusPlus Pompopom.
 
5:50 PM
@Fanael Pretty sure I've downvoted him.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Post as an answer.
 
question was removed
 
Xeo
aw
 
Ell
Woah there is a load of code in loungecpp already o.O
 
user784668
@DeadMG you're Jon Skeet then
 
5:51 PM
I feel like you cannot vote either way on yourself. Correct?
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 You can't. I can't. We can't. Jon Skeet can.
 
Ah. I see.
Link to the repo?
 
@CatPlusPlus I take it we should fork that shit instead of cloning it directly?
 
Ell
Dern ima have to build mono from source
 
5:57 PM
Yes.
 
@Fanael What the fuck is wrong with you.
 
Ell
@Fanael Blasphemy!
 
Hmm, I see there are two branches: develop and master. What should we use each for? I guess develop is for development, but what's master's purpose then?
 
I'll try to write contributor guidelines stuff today.
 
Ell
stable releases?
 
5:59 PM
Alright.
 
I'm gonna wait a bit before I jump in there then.
Wouldn't want to mess everything up.
 
Basically develop is the branch you want to interact with.
It's default for a reason. :v
 
Ell
hopefully there shouldn't be permissions enough to mess things up though, right?
 
If that wasn't obvious, I'm still a Git noob.
 
6:00 PM
You should probably not even work directly on develop, but make feature branches off that.
Don't merge to master ever.
I'll be doing that, once we get to a point where we're releasing something.
 
Sounds good.
 
So the preferred workflow is create feature/something starting with the current tip of develop, do your thing, make a pull request.
 
And then you review it and merge it into develop on the master repo?
Actually, who does the merge?
 
@Ell I'm not seeing that much actual code.
 
Ell
Well there's a load of attributes
but looking at them
I'm not really sure what they're for
asp o.O
 
6:12 PM
It occurs to me I should learn C#.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think merging it yourself, and making a PR on develop should be fine.
 
@CatPlusPlus Alright.
 
We'll explore collapsing and other options later, if needed.
@Ell R#-generated, you don't need to use any of them.
 
Ell
Oh right
 
Well, R# will use them.
But not needed very often.
 
6:14 PM
So, it appears Smooth McGroove makes a thousand bucks per video.
 
Ell
Why do we have an IServer?
What other implementation of server will there be?
 
@Ell A fake one for testing?
 
The mocked one in the tests, possibly.
 
Ell
Oh right okay
 
Anyway, separating interface and its contracts from the implementation.
 
6:18 PM
Ah, NuGet.
Works so fucking well.
 
Ell
is NuGet a package manager?
 
Be sure to enable package restore. :v
 
Yeah, forgot to do so.
@Ell Yep.
So, yay, it builds.
 
Of course it builds.
It even prints cute coloured stuff.
 
6:20 PM
@EtiennedeMartel what is that and why do people pay for it
@CatPlusPlus so we are done ?
 
No, still needs badges.
 
@A.H. It's a guy making a cappella arrangements of old video game music.
People pay him when he releases a new video, because they like his stuff.
That way he can focus entirely on his work.
 
He's got YT partnership for sure, too.
 
He must be living comfortably.
 
I think that annoying user image with link to subscribe overlayed on the video is partner-only feature.
 
6:22 PM
Well, good for him. He's got actual talent, so he deserves it.
 
More than YT ret's players doing 100 shitty Minecraft videos per day.
 
Spaghetti code without actually giving any code. Impressive. — Cory Nelson 47 secs ago
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
@A.H. what the fuck
 
6:25 PM
apparently something to do with virtual inheritance
 
Ell
Rhinestone Eyes is an awesome song
mono has loads of submodules, taking ages to dl >.<
 
@A.H. the question already mentioned not wanting A to virtually inherit B, since it means explicitly constructing B in all subclasses of A
 
@je4d I offered alternatives
other than delegation or another Interface for E and C
I don't really see another alternative
 
@A.H. yeah, quite. The question if basically "I've designed myself into a corner"
 
I didn't know all subclasses of A would have to explicitly construct B
I thought A's constructor would do that
and then the compiler would do some magic
 
@A.H. sadly that magic doesn't exist :P
 
user1804599
6:52 PM
Damn.
 
user1804599
I really need to add logical and comparison operators.
 
@je4d actually when I think about it , it shouldn't exist because the virtual base would be constructed more than once
 

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