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@JakobMillah Undefined.Undefined.run()
 
@Proxy Suddenly, pineapples
 
Defined.Undefinied.(run)
 
8:02 AM
i'm personally more of a peaches guy
 
Today, everyone should try Darkfall New Dawn! Free testing
 
Got 3/5 of Java's UUr done
(uUr due to naming conventions, but forget that lol)
 
another mmo
meh
 
"Another"
THE MMO
You're one of those MOBA plebs?
 
8:06 AM
Still another one
 
yes but i played mmo's as well
aika, eden,dragons nest, gw2
 
@JakobMillah Wait, this is a new Darkfall game? Your dream come true?
 
but now i just don't have the willpower to start a new one
 
@RoelvanUden 2 companies bought the license for the old game "Not Unholy Wars" and both are actually doing a great job so far. "Rise of Agon" and "New Dawn"
 
I know that there is a window in Visual Studio where you can see the loaded assemblies... but I don't remember where you find it...
 
8:09 AM
I always seem to start playing a MMO frantically and after a month or so I just stop.
For no good reaosn.
 
So yeah, That might actually turn out to be something awesome.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@JakobMillah It could be very interesting :D
 
So do I, but not with Darkfall. I would make a clan and do that shit again
 
I was playing Black Desert, and after reaching 50 on multiple toons, I just.. stopped.
 
8:10 AM
I stopped at level 35. As you said, for no particular reason
 
how is that game btw
 
I guess I just felt like the grind hit me
Black Desert is a good game, but fucked
 
wanted to try it but i doubt my lapptop would run it
 
It's very grindy. The combat and visuals are top notch.
 
8:10 AM
But once you get to 45+ you start seeing what PvP is like.
 
god damn.. Working on 2 computers at the same time
 
And for a PvP game it's not very PvP orientated.
 
the last one i tried was blade and soul
 
I played that, too, for a while.
The combat was pretty dull in BnS
 
but i dropped it very fast
 
8:11 AM
And PvP was too easy.
 
eh still aika is my favorite mmo
maybe because it was the first one i played for a longer time
 
My favorite MMO was Aion, followed by GW2. Now.. I'm just looking for one that completely changes the definition of MMO again. Which is not easy, I guess. BDO came close, but it's unbalanced and very PvP unfriendly.
 
Darkfall is the closest if you want fantasy.
Hopefully, they can remove the clankiness from DFO and make it fresh.. They still rely on Old DX
 
yeah but i guess arts(mobas) and arena are the hot things. I still have not seen a mmo that would try to redefine things
 
I tell you, Darkfall
MMOs need open world with player driven economy and politics
 
8:15 AM
@Proxy There have been some.
 
i heard good things aboute eve online @JakobMillah
 
I used to play Eve
 
@Proxy do you have $10m?
Cos you could spend that in EVE
 
I've played EVE, but it's such a niche
 
I gave it up when I realised I couldn't pass exams, have a job, or eat real food and bathe myself, and also commit the required amount of time to the game
 
8:17 AM
And the learning curve for EVE is...
Itneresting
 
roflmao
 
@JakobMillah I don't mind the setting that much. I just want something engaging and challenging. Being a PvP orientated player, I want to learn about every class/skill/combination and devise strategies to counter them. Being a support player, I want the ability to turn the tide of a battle with well placed support skills (e.g. healing, shields, buffs, etc). I don't care for the "Every class can do a little support" nor "You are always safe when grinding" mindset AT ALL.
 
You also need like 10-15 accounts :P
 
no i don't want to touch eve. It would take me 2 years to get into it
 
8:18 AM
@RoelvanUden Me neither. That was the amazing thing with Darkfall. Wherever you went, you were never safe
 
lol
 
Even in NPC you were unsafe
 
That's good. No fucking carebear bullshit.
How about support and pvp?
 
@TomW Classic :P
 
UUr Java - Doesn't just throw Exceptions, but also Errors
 
8:19 AM
@RoelvanUden Everyone can get every spell, but these companies are working towards making it easier to skill 1 particular "school" and then harder for each school
So you have to kind of pick a direction
 
So, to catch anything it throws, you'd need a catch(Throwable e) or something
 
But, say, is there something like "AOE shield" or "AOE heal"
Because many games don't like catering to support.
e.g. GW2 and BDO don't have any kind of healing/support class.
Boooring.
 
There are
 
good morning !?
 
8:24 AM
You know how it's nearly always boring to watch combat of a MMO you don't know?
 
Remember that it's an old game. They are going to improve the visuals when that gets higher priority
 
Yeah that happened.
 
True...
It's just sad.. You should try the intensity in that combat
Back when I played DFO, it literally got people shaking during combat
 
intensity = trying to survive at night in Dying Light
 
IN VR
 
8:26 AM
i think it is about the same feeling
But think that you start completely over if you would die in Dying Light
 
hmmm yeah but it's nerve wrecking, cause it's hard af to survive alone at night
it's intense trying to run away and not to be spotted
 
I would love to play Dying Light in VR...
I would shit my pants.
 
I wonder how many would die from heartattacks
 
you would with amnesia maybe
or slender
 
Outlast
That game..
 
8:30 AM
Have you tried Brookhaven Experiment?
 
slenderpls
 
It's creepy as fuck.
 
Nope..
 
Hey, I finished V 1.0 of UUr Java
 
I hate horror games >.< Would love to have someone to play it with though :P
I've heard that Silent Hill is one hell of a creepy game
 
8:31 AM
Aaaaand....I'm off
 
bye
 
If you have a chance, try it. It's a creepy horror setting in a post-apolyptic world where you have to survive against shitty monsters creeping up on you from 360 degrees. In virtual reality. With limited flashlight batteries and ammo.
 
bye
 
LODGE ALL COMPLAINTS WITH UUr FUNCTIONS HERE:
 
if you want a cool "horror" game try eternal darkness on the gamecube
 
8:32 AM
@RoelvanUden Ahh its that game. They had it at dreamhack
 
outlast is indeed creepy af
 
how can people play scary games
I get so shocked I cant even move
 
@JakobMillah Played it? :D
 
@RoelvanUden Nope :/ I didn't try anything at dreamhack this time
 
not scary in the traditional sense but it has a good story line and cool effects
 
8:33 AM
2 much people... The lines where urgh
 
I jumped back in a scare right into a closet. VR, creepy shit.
It hurt.
 
hahaha
Bloodborne top 3 scariest? Please
 
I dont have a PS4 :P
 
I've started Outlast, Amnesia and Alan wake.. Not finished any
 
8:34 AM
Dunno haven't got through the list yet
Amnesia meh
don't find it scary at all
 
how i hate those lists where they show game by game
 
Outlast was scary tbh...
 
Outlast is scary yeah xD
best game eva gotta be Postal 2
muahahahaha
the only game you can piss everywhere
cops included
 
best game > portal 2? DansGame
I think Zelda - Ocarina of Time is far up on my singleplayer list
Probably my favorite
 
mario 64
 
8:38 AM
I was jk
 
oh kurwa
 
ofcourse postal is not a very good game
 
Mario 64 was good indeed
 
it's just a stupid one
I have mario kart 64
 
Pokemon > all.
 
@RoelvanUden True... TBH
I forgot Pokémon for a second.
 
maybe the only game i would say you were free to do whatever you want
 
resident evil on ps1 was gold
so much fun
 
I loved Beyond: Two Souls. But it may be more of a story than a game.
 
working on 2 pc's...
 
8:40 AM
I love fallout 4 and dying light
I have such a blast playing them
love survival games
 
I'm eagerly awaiting FO4 VR :D
 
you got the machine to run it ultra with VR?
 
I can buy a 1080 if need be.
 
Dying light with the 4K textures is so orgasmic good looking :o
@RoelvanUden one? c'mon go for two :P
 
@RoelvanUden I would wait another year before upgrading
 
8:41 AM
Honestly though, graphics in VR != graphics on desktop.
It's hard to explain. Being there you forgive the little flaws.
You're there.
You're not looking at it. You're actually there.
But hey, I do have a gen6 i5 with a R9390 currently.
It should work.
 
It still lacked though.. I tried EVE Valkyire and yes, I forgot the graphics during those 5 minutes playing, but I know it would annoy me
 
EVE.. on an oculus?
 
Valkyrie, yes
 
Forget inferior headsets.
And especially in a game that's ill suited for its lenses.
 
But..But?
 
8:46 AM
there are games that would be so awesome for VR
 
Like... Space sims?
 
I don't think fallout 4 would be one of them because of the playability
 
The lenses in the Oculus aren't particularly suited for the effects in space.
 
mine sweeper on VR does look insanely awesome
 
It's somewhat better on the Vive.
 
8:47 AM
has anyone tried it out?
 
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName Why would FO4 be bad?
 
I know too little about the differences. It felt very natural using it, but the resolution was bad
 
@RoelvanUden bc of how it plays, it's a massive open world with so much things to do so much to look around that tbh I think it would play better in a 3 monitor surround setup
grid would look amazing
probably
 
@JakobMillah Then you probably ran into the aliasing and effect problem. That's entirely solvable with better lenses (read: not the Oculus) and good configuration/beefy computers.
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName It's awesome because it's an open world and there is so much so do
 
If they'd brought out the Oculus a decent period after announcing it, everybody would have been impressed
It sounds like they left it so long that what they specced it with was already old hat by the time they launched
 
8:50 AM
I wouldn't mind walking through the wastelands, exploring things, with a trusty dog at my side.. in VR.
 
read rusty
you don't want a rusty dog.
 
@Sippy I'm with the annoying robot atm
so...rusty
 
I think fallout 4 is shit so I can't relate :D
 
@RoelvanUden Probably then. I just hope we get to a point in a year or so where you can actually play games with unreal engine graphics and VR
I would love to play Star Citizen in VR..
that would be.. Interesting
But even a game like Minecraft could be cool xD
 
My only experience of SC is on free play week
for like, an hour
most of it sat in a ship shouting "GO YOU PIECE OF SHIT, DO SOMETHING"
 
8:55 AM
Havn't played it either. Just watched others play
 
I've pressed like ALL the buttons
 
in fallout 4 you can tame any beast
so why you want a dog if you can have a mutated dog or some other beast?
 
Dog is best
 
mutant hound ftw
I liked the robot better
it had flamethrower
 
@Sippy 0 awards e3 2016 :DDD
 
9:01 AM
@misha130 cos it bad
dunno why people went so mental over it
 
like that screaming lady?
 
I like witcher more
 
@TomW rifk
 
Witcher 3 is freakin great
 
I really wanna play SC haha
 
9:02 AM
she was the pure definition of mental
 
@Sippy You should play Darkfall New Dawn today
 
@JakobMillah yup totally agree
 
@Sippy todd howards "it just works" meme
basically marketing
I wish I could play games these days and age but I simply am too cheap to buy a gpu
 
windows is so stupid
 
I barely play myself.. Taking too much time. Time is valuable
 
9:04 AM
@misha130 go get yourself a 1080 right now.
yeah I haven't played anything for weeks
I'm sad
T.T
 
i aint getting any nvidias
thats a first
 
get two rx480 then
1080 is a beast tho
 
I just need a small loan of a million dollars for that tho
 
rx480 x 2 will come down to half the price of a 1080
and it will be faster
 
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName Nothing matters in comparison with a German Shepherd.
German Shepherd is the best dog.
 
9:08 AM
@RoelvanUden ok but imagine having a super mutant or a ferral ghoul as a companion? that would be fun as hell xD
ferral ghouls are stupid and weak tho
 
you guys ever had a problem with images quality in wpf?
 
N..no. Like I said. Nothing compares. Dogs, specifically the German Shepherds, are unrivaled by any fantasy beast.
 
I don't know about that one xD
 
I agree with Mr Roel
German Sherpherd is the best friend
 
and I lost the damn robot by the query. Got him 2 days later
he got stucked
 
9:10 AM
I want a friend in the wastelands
 
in a rock
now I have that guy from minutmen
but he sucks
the robot was far better of a companion
 
People are shit. Dogs are not. Pick the dog.
 
the guy doesn't kill anything
another game that I really want is just cause 3
you stop for 5 seconds and the world turns to chaos
 
I am an MMO guy. I grow bored of singleplyaer. The ONLY game I have completed on PC is Fallout 3 and that was pretty much rushing through the story
 
Then it's not completed.
That's just like "Hey I hit max level in that MMO so it's done now"
It's not.
 
9:17 AM
true
Now I feel miserable
 
is there is anything similar to Repeater.ItemDataBound but just for one item?
i just want to bind the data of one item
 
Use repeater.DataSource = singleItem.ToList(); ?
 
@JakobMillah Sorry about that
 
@JakobMillah Don't feel, now to redeem yourself from your sins you have two play Life is Strange until the end.
 
Keel me
 
9:24 AM
z master orders you
you must redeem yourself from your sins my child
 
Last episode of GoT.. I am not spoiling.. But holy fuck
 
it's the only way to achieve enlightening in the holy game world
damn it I couldn't see it
and I was amazed not to find GoT in Netflix
-_-
 
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName It's HBO. They wantz moneyz.
@JakobMillah Why does everyone react like this? It wasn't anything special o_o
Just more same 'ol same 'ol
 
but but it's stupid T.T
 
I'm like, a season late on GoT
 
9:26 AM
I prefer the 100 to GoT
or SOA
GoT sometimes is just way to boring for me
 
@RoelvanUden It was unexpected and rather brutal
 
tbh I don't understand all the hype around it
 
The 100 is cool. I need to continue watching that!
 
I'm on the 3rd season now
 
Same, GoT is hyped. I watch it, but, it's nothing special.
 
9:28 AM
the story is becoming more and more awesome
 
@JakobMillah Meh. Same 'ol same 'ol.
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName I'm halfway through S3 :)
 
You can be same 'ol same 'ol
 
First time i'm hearing of the 100
 
@RoelvanUden cool what episode?
@Mekap did you like people of tomorrow?
 
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName Not sure. I think 6? Not sure.
 
9:28 AM
@RoelvanUden wow Im in the exact same one hahahahaha
 
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName Yup, it was really good
 
@Mekap then you will like the 100 a lot
 
Adding that to the stack then, thanks
 
another great series is the last man on earth
I laugh hard af with that one
hahahahahaha
I wanna start watching narcos as well
 
9:42 AM
I need an opinion. Should I ask the user to use specific naming for the config files, or should I ask the user for the complete path to the .config?
 
What config?
 
the .config files
 
What do they do?
 
for the Service and the client
 
An app.config?
 
9:43 AM
they have entries regarding the connectio strings, owners, ports to use and so on
but I'm building an updater that needs to work with every app I use it for
hence I need to know where the config files are. Either I ask the user for the names or I ask for the full path
 
... why even ask the user?
You know how it must go
 
yes but how can I know how the .config file is named after?
I can't guarantee that he didn't throw another .config file into the same folder
My app is designed to search for a specific .config because I know the name will always be the same
but in this case I don't know how it will be called
or when the user is creating the update package I can ask for them to rename the .config file with a specific name. What do you think?
 
In .NET terms, an app always has a .config.
So, freeViagra.exe would have a freeVIagra.exe.config
 
I'm not talking about the application xD
I'm talking about the user files
 
Eh?
What user files?
 
9:51 AM
He needs to provide me a path to new folder that contains all the new filed for the update
 
I'm having a problem with tests that use files. I'm reasonably certain my code is releasing files when it's finished with them; the problem with that as I understand is that the filesystem is asynchronous and a file can appear to the OS as locked for reading even when the code that locked it has completed.
 
and in that folder it will have a .exe.config
that will be name god knows what
 
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName Why?
 
We have a test machine that regularly fails tests because files are locked, and I believe that's because the machine just sucks, but I'd like to be able to measure how long it's taking and compare that to a reasonable performance baseline. How can I measure that particular aspect of performance?
 
and when I ask them for that path, I need to validate if there is a .exe.config there
@RoelvanUden because it's how the system works xD I don't know why
 
9:52 AM
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName This system is going to be awful.
Updates are easy. You just need to know where to get content, overwrite your own files, and relaunch.
 
@RoelvanUden Actually is working great, because it automatically searches for the needed folders
only If I could guarantee that the user has one .config file per folder
one for the service folder and one for the client folder
 
@TomW That's not true. When you close the file handle, the file is immediately closed and the lock and sharing status are reset. This happens immediately on a CloseHandle call. If you use memory mapped files, it can happen that a read/write call occurs after a CloseHandle but that's not regular, and even then, the file system will lock/read/unlock as a mostly-atomic operation. Memory mapped files could be an issue, regular files cannot.
@LikeIfYouCaredAboutMyName An updater should just update files. That's all it needs to do.
 
Then I'd love a better explanation of why files that I know have been released by managed code still throw IOException when they're next opened for reading
 
@RoelvanUden this one also updates the .config files entries and database and runs scripts if needed
@RoelvanUden Mr. Toxy was actually the one who made the app but his intership has ended now so Im here alone and I need to turn this into a general updater. I only need to figure out the naming part and that's it for the most part
 

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