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12:07 AM
yeah - PMI kills you, though it can still be worth it if you know you'll get appreciation in the property
 
MCCs?
my problem is that I'm saving up - but saving up 20% takes a really long time
an FHA allows for as low as 3.5% - PMI would be ~$150-$250 for the range I'm looking at
I don't think Seattle has hit its cap yet - values are still going up by close to double digits YoY
@ton.yeung yeah, I know not to let them do a hard pull :)
yeah
I did ask ;)
what do you mean? with double digit growth?
right - my range is $350k - $400k
the 25% income > housing rule, is that for gross or net?
yeah
right now I've just been chucking extra $ into my Roth IRA since I can remove it easily
and I upped my 401k contributions to 10% of my paycheck, haha
TCO? That is my main concern
I know I can afford mortgage and down payment
but I do not like not having an emergency fund if I need a new water heater or something
so 3.5% down + 3% fees bare minimum
definitely. I don't want to find out there's a crumbling foundation 6mo after buying :P
I just can't abide paying $500/mo for HOA fees
so I'm willing to move a bit north of where I'd ideally like to be
yeah
luckily where I live the worst common problem is moldy siding
the shitty looking "grey gravel" siding is very popular here from the 50's
I'm turning 25 next month, auto insurance is about to get a lot cheaper :)
I know, it's just nice
@ton.yeung possible. I'm going to talk to my credit union, see what they think
they've never steered me wrong yet
gotcha
wow, seriously?
yeah, if it wasn't for the down payment, I could buy a house right now with no regrets or worries
yeah, I'm sure
I do not have a very frivolous lifestyle
:P
I mean, I don't go out every night, or even every week, I cook my own meals, etc. etc.
yeah.
It's appreciated, I'll look into MCC
what about the grants? where can I learn about those?
yeah
hmm, I'm on my HUD website but I'll look harder. can't find it yet
seems like most of the HUD stuff here is only for low income
hmm
habitat for humanity would be cool
spend 500 hours and get a free down payment
doing something I enjoy
WSHFC-sponsored homebuyer education seminars ?
cool, I'll look into it
thanks :) I gotta run!
give away my cards?
gotcha
e.g. if they tell me to go do that stuff, too, they're probably good to work with
good point
yeah, for sure
I g2g - care to continue this convo via gchat or something?
hahaha, still 24!
your UH email?
I have a recent copy of my credit report, I'm around 780 atm
Cody.herring@gmail.com
 
1:16 AM
datediff(day, timeStampCol, getdate()) = 0
seems like a good way to pick past 24 hours
 
does anyone know how to download files from ftp server
 
@Steve Filezilla I'd say
that name is your friend
 
figure it out thanks
 
 
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5:36 AM
aw crap, I hate having the flu :(
 
5:53 AM
morning!
@scheien the flu sucks
 
6:22 AM
hello
can anyone help?
 
@dotNetAddict What do you need?
 
I have issue in kendo scheduler
 
Sorry I won't be able to help, never used that component
 
6:42 AM
anyone around?
 
6:58 AM
@scheien Aw total and utter crap. Sleep lots, drink water, keep calm!
 
7:31 AM
morning guys :D
 
Good morning homies
@scheien take medicine and you'll be alright in 7 days. take none, bath in hot water avoid cold food\drinks you'll be alright in a week :P
 
8:05 AM
EF is being meh with POCOs. I hates it! HATESS IT!!!
 
Teleconference with our big boss yesterday, status report basically. Conclusion: This division has six developers, of whom four were in the room. All work in this building. They've accepted that they've failed to build up a viable software dev unit in this business, the work isn't coming, and we're basically a useless sideline now.
He was as positive as he could be, but they can't get the work for us.
 
Uh oh. Does that spell certain doom? What will happen to your job?
 
Job is fine while this project is running
it's a sizeable walled garden of its own
 
8:23 AM
still though
 
motivation--
 
8:48 AM
@TomW what industry do you work in?
 
9:09 AM
Well g'mornin
Last day :D
@RoelvanUden Got asked in interview yesterday to explain what a POCO was and its relationship to EF
nailed it yo
ty
 
o/
@Sippy :D
 
Lol
Project manager just came over and said "Oh, we're not having the call today because the third party's technical guys aren't ready. When's your last day?"
"Today."
"Oh .. well that's not much time to sort things out..."
2
He was not amused.
 
@Sippy He should plan his stuff then
 
I do feel slightly bad for the devs who pick up some of my earlier stuff ...
I left comments telling them where things needed refactoring though.. xD
 
@Squiggle business process outsourcing
 
9:20 AM
@TomW and there's no demand for a software development team within a business that does this? O.o
 
9:46 AM
@Sippy Haha, good :-)
 
10:07 AM
huh. Perhaps I don't understand generics as well as I thought.
Repository<Identity> repo;
repo = new Repository<Employee>();
Employee : Identity
"cannot convert source type Repository<Employee> to target type Repository<Identity>"
am I being dumb?
 
@Squiggle divisional politics. The business is much larger than his remit
 
@TomW found comments in that code from 97
don't think role were around in 97
 
@Squiggle You may want the T to be covariant if you want to allow this?
That is, <out T> in C#
 
10:22 AM
aha
 
Hi Friends!!
 
yeah that's got it. Thanks, @RoelvanUden :)
 
10:37 AM
@RoelvanUden u smart
Best bug report ever
> David is this handled. It is on the list of JIRAs that might could stop upgrade to R5
because CLIENT no I cannot determine from what info is available that is no longer
applies or manners or is to be concerned about?
 
I'm calling an asmx service from my asp mvc 4 website and when I try to get a large object I get this message - "The maximum message size quota for incoming messages (65536) has been exceeded. To increase the quota, use the MaxReceivedMessageSize property on the appropriate binding element."

I have looked on the stack and elsewhere for solutions and so far tried adding
"<binding name="BookingServicesSoap12" maxReceivedMessageSize="2147483647" maxBufferSize="2147483647" maxBufferPoolSize="2147483647" transferMode="buffered" >" to the client Web.config file, which didn't help.
 
11:00 AM
Enable WCF tracing in your web.config and check the actual size of the payload, perhaps?
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Q: How to turn on WCF tracing?

Abu HamzahUpdate: I have been trying to turn on WCF tracing, but still no success... Below is my lastest update. Do I need a permission to write to the below location? <system.diagnostics> <trace autoflush="true" /> <sources> <source name="System.ServiceModel" switchValue="...

 
Hi everyone :)
 
It's an incredibly useful technique
 
Anybody having experience with Windows Integrity for C# applications?
 
Windows Integrity? never heard of it
 
I'm trying to send emails directly using the Outlook Object Model
but it is giving COMExceptions when my application and outlook are not running at the same permission level.
 
11:04 AM
@Squiggle I'm calling an asmx service from my MVC site. Is this still applicable?
 
Does asmx use bindings?
Oh, client
n/m
 
@AlanGee erm... if you're calling an external web service from within your controller, then yes.
@AlanGee or do you mean that you're calling it via REST from the front-end?
 
I hate responsive webdesign :(
 
@Squiggle No, I'm calling it from the controller. I just thought that with the server being an old asmx one that the config options might be different, but I can give it a try.
 
@AlanGee It looks like your problem is that the message you're getting back from the service is too large to deserialize. Enabling WCF Tracing in your web.config and it should record more details about the error in the .svclog, perhaps with the payload
 
11:16 AM
@Squiggle Yeah I would estimate it to be in the hundreds of Ks, which is bigger that the default 65536 limit. The trouble is I am unable to increase the limit by the method most people recommend.
 
@ErwinOkken Why ?
 
@AlanGee you sure you're modifying the correct binding?
because that approach should work
<bindings>
  <basicHttpBinding>
    <binding maxBufferSize="2147483647" maxBufferPoolSize="524288" maxReceivedMessageSize="2147483647">
      <security mode="TransportCredentialOnly">
        <transport clientCredentialType="Ntlm" />
      </security>
      <readerQuotas maxDepth="128" maxStringContentLength="2147483647" maxArrayLength="2147483646" maxBytesPerRead="4096" maxNameTableCharCount="16384" />
    </binding>
  </basicHttpBinding>
</bindings>
 
@Tommassiov All the effort to get everything good on multiple resolutions. And the use case that I have isn't that easy.. :P And my knowledge about the subject is poor :P
 
sorry for the spam
@ErwinOkken it's perfectly acceptable to reduce functionality for smaller screens, y'know
because you physically cannot see or do as much
 
I know, but I created the worst design possible. Haha :P
Nah its just my knowledge that needs to be updated..
 
11:21 AM
...change the design? :)
 
Nah I'm trying to update my knowledge about this subject. I really suck at this :D
I'm using 3 images around my content. But depending on the resolution I need to scale those images. I know I could use SVG for that, but I'm not familiar with it. So I have to create 3 * 3 = 9 images for 3 different resolutions.
And next to that, a mobile friendly website.
But thats not the problem :P
I hate the 3 * 3 = 9 images.. doesnt seem like a generic solution to me :P
 
@Squiggle I have double checked that it's the right binding but I'll take a look at your snippet too. Thanks for the help.
 
@ErwinOkken Responsive is a lot about reducing information you need to show to account for the smaller screen sizes. Mobile first is the key; only relay the bare minimum information you need. No fancy designs if you don't need it. Do you really need those images?
 
Not for mobile, but for 1280/1600/1920 resolutions..
The "different" mobile website is gonna be easy, and there I'm going to remove the google maps, etc.
 
The whole idea of responsive is to account for all devices. One site, all devices ;0
 
11:26 AM
Yes, but then I have to use SVG right? :P
 
Or build different sized images
 
SVG is probably not well supported and pretty large for poor 2G connections
 
But thats for desktop
For mobile, I remove those images.
 
Bottom line is that it's really hard to answer without a very clear grasp on what you are trying to do, for what use case, for which audience, etc.
 
I can just show you
Dutch website incoming
But ye, on any reso different than 1600 width, its gonna fail hard :P
 
11:35 AM
I don't see anything weird.
 
On what resolution? :P
 
960x1080
 
mobile?
 
Half screen of 1080p, essentially what you'd see on a tablet
 
If I wanna calculate the size of the images for 1280x720, and the originel is created for 1600x900. Is this the proper approach? Difference (width) = 1600-1280=320. Percentage of 320 from total = 320 / 1600 = 0.2. So it should be 20% smaller? Or is my math totally incorrect? :D
 
11:39 AM
@ErwinOkken sounds like a company from ww2 :D
 
It is :P
He started when 50 years ago
 
@SebastianL Based on what, by the way? Just wondering :P
 
@ErwinOkken 50 years ago isn't ww2 anymore
 
bunkerbeton is german and i am too ^^
 
11:41 AM
Close to then.. :x
It's a Dutch company. Does it have a special meaning in Germany?
 
beton is concrete, right?
 
the meaning is not just the word, but it's sound.
@TomW yes
for a german fellow it has a strong military sound
 
Ahh ok :)
I should really learn about OOCSS.. i hate myself for not even trying it :P
 
Is that as terrible as it sounds?
 
@KendallFrey to achieve the same result in english you could translate it into "military defense supply concrete"
 
11:46 AM
Not sure if he meant OOCSS tho :P
 
Right so
Interviewer said basically I missed out because I don't know web forms, but a position opened up because someone else in the organisation moved into it
So they want me to take up his contract until december
 
What happens after december?
 
That's it contract over, but likelihood is they'll either extend or offer me employment.
Based on how they hired everyone else.
 
@TomW fresh new year of food to code conversion
Hello
 
11:52 AM
Kaching. The sooner you get into contracting the better, according to my colleague who loves being a contractor
 
The job is basically a huge web forms project, with underlying applications written in MVC
My job would be supporting both sides.
I've been in my career 8 months and this is a 27k job
Worth?
 
Pretty good for a newbie. Pretty good for the midlands
 
The way I see it is if I don't like web forms I can just quit after a few months.
 
@Squiggle I managed to track down the problem. It turned out we also have an <httpsTransport maxReceivedMessageSize="2147483647"/> which was missing the maxReceivedMessageSize attribute. I was testing it on an https staging server.
 
It'd be great to get experience working in a team with some proper testing procedures and stuff as well.
 
11:54 AM
@Sippy Yeah, contractors do that. Nothing to worry about
 
Right
 
It does mean they can kick you out with no notice too
 
I may have to bite my tongue if they say they want me to start straight away
I wanted to take May off to go somewhere but meh
Could always tell them I've booked it already
 
Don't need a reason, it's a condition of employing you. Don't need to explain why you want it. They'll either accept the deal or they won't
 
True true
I interviewed for a job that was meant to begin at the end of May so that's what I have planned for.
 
11:58 AM
I know it's difficult as a younger person to get over apologising for contradicting people's expectations. It feels arrogant to just say "I want x", right?
Or more flowery words that equate to the same thing
 
I guess
I'll tell them I want to start at the end of may and see what they say.
To be honest if they'd rather spend may hiring someone else because of that, I'll live.
 
Or maybe it doesn't and you're more assertive than I am and I've misunderstood the whole thing
 
I'm assertive when I have to be I think
Else I don't like drama lol
Something I should get over if I wanna be a contractor.
 
I'm very pleased that I get approval for being assertive about our code quality
 
Lol
 
12:00 PM
srs
 
Former colleague: "I'm not rude, I'm assertively truthful"
 
I don't mind being assertive about things I know are shit
I don't like asserting myself when I don't know I'm 100% right
 
I started questioning things more. The result: more thought in the code, and (arguably) better code
 
Some people seem to have no problem doing that lol
"I'm right and you're wrong."
"This evidence proves you're wrong."
"You know nothing, Jon Snow!"
 
evidence is usually a waste of time except in law and science
 
12:02 PM
Politicians: "Austerity is working!"
Economists: "No, it really isn't, and we've already debunked your arguments 5 years ago"
Politicians: "WOORKIIIIING"
 
12:17 PM
during appraisal meeting:
Me: I got client appreciations for the last 2 releases for my efforts.
Mgr: do you have those appreciations in mail ?
Me: you were present in those client meetings and you know what they said.
Mgr: I know, if you ain't got any appreciation mails, i cant give you a good performance rating.
Me: Fuck you
getting 2\5 (not meeting expections) 1\5 for interpersonal skills. drops paper. :P
 
@codebrain how large is your business?
 
@codebrain Nice...
 
@codebrain 1) appraisals are tracked in software, and require proof of good performance
2) your boss has financial motivation to give you a bad review, because it means less pay increase
3) your boss sucks find a new job
 
If someone treated me like that I'd be like well fuck you and your appraisals.
 
I used to make appraisal software for a living. I fucking hate appraisal software.
 
12:26 PM
I have made appraisal software before
Did it for my final year project at uni
 
hah it was probably better than the shit I worked on
that was a WebForms .Net 1.0 project
paaaaainful
 
Hey all I'd like some feedback on this question:stackoverflow.com/questions/29943131/… I'm concerned I might have been too harsh when answering that question ..... am I being a jerk or is the asker just begging me to write his code for him?
 
:/
 
@Pseudonym nah it's cool. Their question history kinda shows that they don't really understand what they're doing.
it's a bad question, too
 
@Squiggle Do you have a nice way to add an entity to a navigation property (a collection) that ISNT loaded? Thus, I disabled lazy loading and did not load team.People and want to add a new person to that.
Of course I can put it onto the Person context but I'd like to do some EF magic with the entity instead, w/o touching person context directly
 
12:41 PM
@Squiggle we use CSB. It sucks.
 
@RoelvanUden not as far as I know, unfortunately.
 
Cool Summary Bro.
 
ORMs are full of compromises :(
 
@Squiggle The project i work for is being used by 150 hospitals in US and 200 more hospitals will sign up for us in 2 months
 
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Q: Return Inherited Class into Base Class WCF Service

Safi MustafaI am trying to return a derived class from the base class using WCF service, but I keep getting the following exception "An error occurred while receiving the HTTP response to http://localhost:50137/Service.svc. This could be due to the service endpoint binding not using the HTTP protocol. This ...

Anyone think I've missed anything on this one?
 
12:44 PM
@Squiggle yeah we have proof and adequate docs with metrics. its like if they 'like' you, you'll get it or not. typical indian minds. hate it.
 
@codebrain I've heard similar from other people. It's not a meritocracy.
 
@Squiggle thanks random internet stranger for making me feel better! ;)
Seriously though, I appreciate the feedback
 
hah
 
@Squiggle yea
 

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