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7:00 PM
Oh? When you say null means zero, you're incorrect, because it doesn't. First definition.
Do you even know what that means?
 
Because the first definition rejects the 4th?
 
I'm so close to write something beautiful, dint know if I have the strength to follow through
 
I could be mistaken, I'll freely admit you're better at math than I am, but I believe it means a set that has 0 elements in it.
The set of dollars Rob would be paid as my company's receptionist would have 0 elements in it.
 
in a c# context null != 0. perhaps "measure of zero" refers to the byte size of the type in memory?
 
@Billdr How do you tell the difference between an empty set and no set?
 
7:05 PM
In the context of the conversation I was having, null means 0.
 
@Billdr For Bob it is no practical difference, that is true
 
@JohanLarsson Personally? I use IsNullorEmpty and let the academics worry about the distinction.
 
@Billdr oh, yeah in english null == 0
 
I'm glad 3/4ths of us are in agreement on this point.
 
@Billdr I disagree for no particular reason, and I count as 10 people
 
7:13 PM
@Billdr I cant be a nit when it comes to English really, but you would want to misunderstand to misunderstand that
null~0 (equivalent)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols
 
aleph-null would be a great band name.
 
@Billdr - I concur for the same reason, and with the same weight as 3/4 Pheonix.
 
Kyle did not tell his weight.
 
Let's try that again. We have 10.5/21.5 agreement?
 
@JohanLarsson I'm 180 lbs
 
7:20 PM
ok, I'm 0.3
 
I'm so confused
 
What if Kendall.Weight == null?
 
then I cry.
I don't know how to add null
 
@KyleTrauberman Hahahahaha :D
 
7:21 PM
I'm 209.439 lbs
 
null + null == NullReferenceException
 
what's null+10.5?
 
NullReferenceException
 
@Billdr just throw and move on, fail fast!
or you could do:
while (null == null){}
 
stackoverflow
 
7:24 PM
yep
 
@JohanLarsson `while(tittySprinkles){this.ReadInMorganFreemansVoice();}
 
Isn't it nice when your code works on other people's machines, but not on your own.
Those are the best moments.
 
@TravisJ
1 hour ago, by Kyle Trauberman
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Hi all
 
@MRS1367 Hey! :)
 
7:26 PM
public static IEnumerable<XmlAttributeAttribute>  GetXmlAttributeAttributes(this Type typeWithAttributes)
{
    return typeWithAttributes.GetAttributes<XmlAttributeAttribute>();
}
 
Hi @MRS1367
 
@Billdr I saw you wanted me to refresh the leaderboard?
 
Suggestions on better names?
 
GetXmlAttributeArguments ?
 
@Billdr your wish is my command
 
7:27 PM
@TravisJ already taken :)
 
XmlAttributeProperty?
 
@JohanLarsson XmlAttributeCeption is a far better name
 
XmlAttrArgs
 
GetXmlAttributes?
@RobAngelier abbreviations are bad!
 
haha
i know
 
7:28 PM
@Billdr That's not how sets work.
 
Hi @RobAngelier
 
@KyleTrauberman I'll go with that (cleaner)
 
can anyone help me in my new question?
 
the framework class is XmlAttributeAttribute
 
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Q: Hide ellipsis (…) button of expandable property like "…" button of font property in the property grid

MRS1367I've added a new property to my custom control as expandable property like font property in Property Grid. After using from my custom control in a Windows Forms Application project, I see an ellipsis (…) button like "…" button of font property in Property Grid. (For more information, please see t...

 
7:29 PM
I'm back, and you're still wrong.
 
well, i was just leaving before my wife slaps me in the face
 
@RobAngelier She already did it?
 
@JohanLarsson not today :-)
well, have a nice evening fellas!
see ya tomorrow
 
I'd rather wade through fire than use this network. It's horrible.
 
gawd
I'm compiling one of our two main projects
 
7:32 PM
I know how @KyleTrauberman felt when he said he needs to refresh to see new messages :(
 
it's been 16 minutes >.<
 
@KendallFrey its so annoying, aint it?
 
I know that feel too
 
yes, classic
 
7:33 PM
obligatory
 
@KendallFrey -> plz see my new question and tell me ur idea about its grammar if possible.
 
I'm working on side tools while it's compiling lol
I moved to Florida 2-3 weeks ago and I still don't have the internet at home
 
you're not having office chair jousting battles?
 
mostly because the neighbors have an unprotected wifi network
 
@zneak I dont even notice when my thing builds
 
7:34 PM
we don't all compile at the same time :(
 
get a build server
then you all will
 
@zneak how big is it and what is a good way to measure?
 
it's an AAA console game
so it's AAA-console-game big
 
Halo 4?!?!
 
I have to build it for 360 and ps3
so not halo
 
7:37 PM
@KyleTrauberman -> plz see my new question and tell me ur idea about its grammar if possible.
 
@zneak HELLO KITTY ADVENTURES 4: THE MASSACRE?
 
that would be awesome lol
 
wasn't halo 3 supposed to be the end?
 
I think they left the door open for a sequel
 
by killing master chief?
 
7:38 PM
you did not complete the game on legendary did you
 
negative
 
well, spoiler alert
master chief doesn't die
 
not tellin'
 
7:39 PM
next time I'll ask my employer
"can I exclude Kyle from my NDA?"
 
I have a friend back in Montréal
he was working on Army of Two 3
internally they called the game a "quad-A game"
 
@KyleTrauberman Thanks man. I over took both @Steve and @TravisJ. I'm so happy.
 
he's told me that visceral games has a "gun designer"
 
@Billdr c# leaderboard is done
 
7:41 PM
I fixed my jquery jank. I'm going to to range to blow up some paper zombies.
 
the guy's only job is to design guns in their games
he has a bunch of gun models on his desk
and when he plays the game he does comments like
 
@KyleTrauberman Oh yea? Did you implement some sort of timer to pull data periodically?
 
"I don't like how heads blow up when you headshot with this gun"
"make it more gory"
 
not yet, but i made it so it updates the database after each page, instead of after all pages are downloaded.
 
sounds like a fun job
 
7:43 PM
@Billdr YOU BETTER STOP RIGHT THERE! I WILL write code to cap you at #4 so you don't overtake me. :P
 
Cool. Also, I learned that you do need to be added to the project (with pretty significant rights) to download the source from tfs
 
@Billdr - So, you want to star some star wars?
 
@Billdr yeah everyone has read access
 
I am too busy lol, you can have it. Apparently I have to write a f'ing bugreport to mysql .net connector
 
Yea, which is not enough to download. I was watching it with Lews and Andre. You need to be a project admin to pull the entire file.
Unless I'm pulling the data incorrectly.
anyway, cigarette then guns. Catch you duders when I get home.
 
7:46 PM
cya
 
YAWN
How rude of me... sorry.
 
YAWN
! Lews how dare you lol
 
yawning is contagious
 
7:47 PM
Ha ha
 
I actually yawned after reading that
wtf
 
This network goes down more often than a Las Vegas whore.
I hope you're all happy.
 
Interesting.. yawn infects over the network.
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@KendallFrey why would we be happy?
you're not here to answer all the noob questions
so we have to step in
:P
 
At least you have more consistent internet access.
 
7:50 PM
not usually
I'm lucky today
 
You mean you normally have internet that goes down more than once every 5 minutes?
 
yep
or, gives errors with chat every 5 minutes
 
I moved a few weeks ago and I'm still on the neighbor's wifi
that network is probably one of the most unreliable ones I've ever used
(I'll be getting my own connection in the coming days)
 
its an unsecured network an unknown distance away
 
but having an unreliable connection made me discover some interesting things
 
7:55 PM
chances are good that it would be bad
 
yeah pretty much
for instance, in a single day
I have time to go to work on my bike, work 8-9 hours, work out an hour somewhere in the middle of the day, make food, do the dishes, watch a movie, work on personal projects, and still get 8-9 hours of sleep
without neglecting personal hygiene
 
@zneak it's great having good PMs, isn't it? :)
 
8:14 PM
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Q: Call SOAP service from WCF client

John SpiegelMy web services are rusty so I hope I'm just missing something kind of obvious. I have a WCF service that, in part, relays calls it receives to a third party SOAP service. The service receives an object that matches the body of the SOAP message that needs to be sent. I've added a service refer...

30 Parameters
DA FUQ
 
What should you all include in development time estimates? Do you include 'unforeseen circumstances' in the estimates?
 
public XmlConvertEx()
{
    TypeConverter.Add(typeof(double),(xml)=>ToDouble(xml));
}
public Dictionary<Type, LambdaExpression> TypeConverter { get; set; }
Argument 'lambda expression' is not assignable to type LambdaExpression
 
MYSQLCONNETOR
Y U ALWAYS BREAK MY SHIT
 
@JohanLarsson LambaExpression is an expression tree I think.
 
@LewsTherin but how do I solve it?
 
8:21 PM
What is xml type?
 
tried:
public Dictionary<Type, dynamic> TypeConverter { get; set; }
out of desperation
xml is a string
 
Dictionary<Type,Func<string,double>> TypeConverter{get;set;}
 
But actin has no result?
 
Should work.. and you are doing some crazy stuff lately lol
Oh right
@JohanLarsson Yeah, sorry. Fixed it
 
Short periods of time I think I don't suck, then C# tells me what time it is :)
 
8:25 PM
Lol
Time to stop torturing me!
You were probably right all along. But C# is sentient and refuses to compile.
 
me constantly ending up in the outskirts of the language is a good indication of poor design
 
Dang, that is some creepy gif right there.
 
public XmlConvertEx(T objectToDeserialize)
{
    TypeConverter.Add(typeof(double),(string xml)=>ToDouble(xml));
}
public Dictionary<Type, Func<string,dynamic>> TypeConverter { get; set; }
not kool with dynamic
 
8:33 PM
What isn't?
 
@LewsTherin I always feel it is a bit of a failure to use dynamics. Flush type safety down the toilet. + leads to switch on type often.
(for me)
 
me too
dynamic leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to the exception side.
 
Lol
 
what is the exception side?
 
Mmn, yeah you can't use dynamic with lambda expression
 
8:35 PM
The exception side where time and wtf coalesce into one place.
 
ok if I get a deadline I'm there
 
@TravisJ One must collapse. time or wtf.
And again.. no one gets the reference :(
 
I'm slow, explain?
 
One does not simply collapse wtf
 
@LewsTherin You expect 10k+ before xmas?
 
8:40 PM
@JohanLarsson Fringe
@JohanLarsson Um, that's impossible for me lol
5k maybe
 
ok testrun
And it worked, I'm not proud but happy anyway!
 
8:55 PM
Yay!
 
@LewsTherin Are you still doing mostly java?
 
I haven't touched C# in weeks
Java took over
:((((((((
 
8 of 246 tests fails, what have I touched?
 
9:16 PM
seriously. being in the js room listening to noobs and vamps is worse than the RAGEQUITS when I was seven and trying to beat Star Road on my SNES.
3
 
Yeah, I think your meme summed it up a few days ago.
"My code is crazy,
 help me help me! I'm so lazy"
 
Are you referring to this new phenomenon (at least new to me) called 'brogrammers'?
3
 
'look at me, I can deadlift an F150 and do the codez at the same time!'
 
They are strong too?
 
Did they consult you for that article?
 
@TravisJ you mean this one?
 
what makes you say that?
 
You might be a brogrammer if you can solo a keg stand while coding.
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I can't solo a keg stand
let alone while coding
I can empty my nose though while writing documentation, does that count?
 
9:47 PM
How do you work with IoC?
I'm thinking about creating a project that references everything and have the IoC in it, is that ok?
why is it impossible to find a laptop without preinstaled OS?
@LeClerq lol at comments
 
@JohanLarsson because they all suck. and good luck removing that hidden "recovery" partition.
my 750gb SSD seems doomed to forever be 700gb
 
that is some ssd!
how many of you use a laptop as primary device for programming?
 
I use a MB Air at home and a Dell Latitude for work
 
I use a $200 emachines desktop from walmart as a development machine, i have 4 of them around at work and home
 

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