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3:00 PM
and when they have public appearances, they :| =◇
 
this whole “is this racist” thing took a really odd turn…
 
Yup... So, hows the weather where you're at?
 
terrible
 
It’s very foggy
 
cold, cloudy, foggy
 
3:03 PM
@holdenweb right, I was confusing it with this: stackoverflow.com/a/406408/4082217
 
we have smoggy
 
I saw sun for the first time in 10 days today
 
It's rainy and gray and windy here but on the bright side, rainy gray windy days tend to be quite warmer than average. I don't know which way the causation arrow points on this one but I'm just thankful I have feeling in my extremeties
Does rain make it warmer? Or does rain only appear on already-warm days? Or does some mysterious cold front / warm front interaction cause both rain and warmth? Idk I'm not a weatherologist
 
probably near the latter
and if it wasn't warm, it would be snowing
 
I think rain cannot appear on very cold days since it would likely be snow
 
3:05 PM
Would you rather have gray skies (potential active weather, be it rain or snow) and a nice comfortable temperature, or scorching/freezing temperature with blue skies and sunny?
 
But I don’t think “warmer => rain” is a valid implication either since I’ve seen plenty of “warmer” days without rain
so you’d more say “not warmer => not rain” which is equivalent to “not (not warmer) or not rain” which is the same as “warmer or not rain” which is equivalent to ”not rain or warmer” which is actually equivalent to “rain => warmer”… SOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
use your German superpowers to determine the exact causal relationship, we can't have fuzzy causality here:P
 
@AndrasDeak already done. ^
 
*golf clap* :D
bah can't type today
 
House of cards is amazing
my new favourite TV show
 
3:07 PM
I wonder how popular that's going to be on Netflix the last/next couple of days
 
Could anyone else weigh in on @ThiefMaster's comment about changing the Jinja parser for tests here: github.com/pallets/jinja/pull/665. General code review also welcome. I want to merge it one way or another.
 
@WayneWerner it's not new
 
@khajvah did you see the original, about Francis Urquhart?
 
             precipitation?
            +------+-----+
            | Yes  |  No |
      +-----+------+-----+
      | Yes | rain | dry |
warm? +-----+------+-----+
      | No  | snow | dry |
      +-----+------+-----+
 
@AndrasDeak is it a show or movie?
 
3:08 PM
I forget what this chart was supposed to prove but I'll submit it anyway because I worked hard on it
 
@AndrasDeak German constitution Article 2 "Wenn man lächelnde Gesichter machen will, sind nur rechte Winkel erlaubt."
 
@khajvah I know. My wife watched the whole whatever is on Netflix. I watched and enjoyed a few of the episodes with her
 
The patch allows using {{ items|select('==', 3) }} instead of select('equalto', 3), but it also changes the parser so that it's not different between is and select. Which looks awkward and isn't recognized by syntax highlighters.
 
@AndrasDeak cool, I will watchit
 
@AnttiHaapala :D google to the rescue
 
3:09 PM
@AnttiHaapala what the
@davidism “so that it's not different between is and select”?
(I don’t know the more specific jinja features, so I’m not sure what you mean)
 
{{ x is == 3 }}, while not useful, wouldn't work if the parser wasn't changed, even though it's applying the same test.
You'd have to use {{ x is eq 3 }}.
The issue is that select looks it up by name, while is is part of the syntax and the parser sees a comparison symbol, not a name.
 
But would you want to have {{ x is == 3 }} as a valid expression?
 
That really sucks - why not {{ x == 3 }}?
 
Jinja's is is not the same as Python's is.
@holdenweb yes, that's what you should do, and that works.
 
Sounds to me like Jinaj's is needs taking out back and shooting
 
3:14 PM
:D
 
I’m just saying that x is == 3 looks very awkward, so I would rather not want to have that functionality included
 
The comparison tests aren't really useful in the is statement, but they are useful for filters.
 
@holdenweb your friendly grandpa cover is failing;)
 
this is why I use Tonnikala instead <3
 
I'd go so far as to say it's anti-Pythonic (as opposed o Antti-Pythonic)(tm)
 
3:15 PM
I'm just concerned about consistency. "Why does this test work in the select but not in the is?"
 
@holdenweb your t was opposed to staying in front of o
 
{{ x is sameas y }} would be the equivalent identity test.
 
I would just make it clear that == would be an alias that is explicitely added for select and nothing else…
 
@AnttiHaapala one of my many typing oddities is that if I miss a character somewhere it usually seems to find its way into the text somehow
 
quantum character tunneling
btw holdenweb's avatar is broken for me on the top right
 
3:18 PM
> Since there was no expectation before that symbols could be used, we could just document them as a special case in the select docs, rather than in the general test docs.
>
> Or we could still allow them in both locations, but only document them in select.
1 or 2?
 
undocumented weirdness...sounds fun
I mean, whoever starts using it and getting confused despite it not being documented, has it coming
 
@davidism 1
Then you can blame it on “per design” instead of “lazy docs per design”
 
Given the recent crazy issues that have come to light with Jinja 2.9 removing behavior that was never documented and never supposed to work, it probably is a better idea not to change the parser or add undocumented behavior.
 
true undocumented behaviour is prone to breaking with any minor version change:P
 
nice so now US quits TPP, good for US and China <3
 
3:38 PM
anybody knows a good resource for quick Java relearning?
 
learnjavathehardway
 
I can't do the hard way
 
> Learn Java the Hard Way” is a book with tutorial videos that teaches you how to code the same way a lot of us learned as children in the 1980s [...]
 
If I'm asked to brush up on java, I find the best solution is to update my resumé
Java the language or Java the ecosystem? And SE or EE?
 
quick, easy, cheap: choose two.
 
3:39 PM
java the hutt
 
quick and easy
 
"I used to program Java but I'm all right now"
 
@KevinMGranger both
 
My quick and easy course is a steal at one hundred thousand dollars
 
I did java 2 years ago
 
3:40 PM
Eh, some stuff in java is surprisingly easy to get started with. So long as you remotely know maven you can get a web-based "hello world" going pretty quickly
 
Suitable for middle managers that want a cushy two week retreat and need to burn some of their budget so it doesn't get cut next year
 
Well, it's a gigantic ecosystem. Which parts do you want? For the language itself, I find the official Oracle docs to be good enough, although they're not very interactive or practice based
 
Learn Java Fast: It's better than throwing money in a hole in the ground (tm)
 
I am gonna do web development
 
cbg
i have a question, yesterday we were discussing mapProcces function see transcript chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/35237769#35237769 and i finished testing it and wanted to post ask:answer question to so. But it seems that there is already question of that type.
should i make a duplicate or just add myown answear or just leave it be ?
 
3:45 PM
don't make a duplicate
 
If your answer adds something, then answer.
 
To be honest I don't expect that code to be well received, thanks to the misspelling "Procces" in the function name, the non-idiomatic camelCase naming style, the unnecessary recursion, and the non-pythonic if proccesList != []:
 
procces sic?
 
You might think these criticisms are pedantic, but remember: the people voting on your posts are ten times as pedantic as I am.
 
@Kevin we're actually 11 times more pedantic, didn't you see the changelog?
 
3:48 PM
Dang, I forgot to check!
 
> Due to Kevin being less pedantic lately, we've adjusted our scale factor to 11 to maintain consistency.
2
 
Now you'll have to increase it again thanks to my little gaffe here
 
Are you being pedantic about being pedantic? It's recursively pedantic. We're operating on a pedant-tree, if you will.
 
You're going to make me blow my stack.
 
DSM
Morning cabbage for all.
 
3:52 PM
ahahahahahaha , its cool. :D I don't care about receiving ( for this example at least ) if someone wants to use it he/she/it can change it , rename it as it wish. I was thinking about contributing to the society :D

whatch out for your buffer
 
I'd probably do something like
def multi_map(callables, iterable):
    for f in callables:
        iterable = map(f, iterable)
    return iterable
 
to slow :D
recursive process timings
#?? data declared outside of function

# without additional function
py 2.7 :> 100000 loops, best of 3: 4.82 usec per loop
py 3.5 :> 100000 loops, best of 3: 6.08 usec per loop
# with additional function
py 2.7 :> 100000 loops, best of 3: 4.77 usec per loop
py 3.5 :> 100000 loops, best of 3: 6.13 usec per loop

while loop procces timings
#?? data declared outside of function

# without additional function
py 2.7 :> 100000 loops, best of 3: 4.97 usec per loop
py 3.5 :> 100000 loops, best of 3: 8.17 usec per loop
 
Amazon Prime, y u no share music with household members but streaming and photos OK?
 
hi could anyone share a complete git sample application for AWS s3 storage for Django?
 
what?
 
4:01 PM
> give me code for...a thing
 
yes...as I am trying to integrate s3 storage in my application but it is giving 400 bad request exception
 
That's not how chat works. Or the main site.
 
@Kevin That's what I said but Danilo's timeit tests seemed to show that it was slower than the recursive version. Of course the tests may have been flawed. ;)
 
You're going to want to create a MCVE, and read the rules for the room
 
ok
well, I have my own code
what I am failing to understand is why is it giving 400 bad request...when it seems to be alright with configuration.
I have also asked it here
 
4:05 PM
@Maverick please read our room rules, in particular don't ask about questions you've asked on main within 2 days.
 
ok
thanks
 
Hmm, how do I say "any timing results that show less than a factor of two difference between competing approaches, doesn't give you enough information to make a decision either way, owing to problems such as differing CPU loads" without sounding like I've got sour grapes?
 
@PM2Ring flawed is the guy who wrote them... tests are tests :D :P

Soooo, comment or not to comment ? Thas is the opinion of populus ?
 
Alternatively, how do I say "if a 0.00028 millisecond difference matters in your code, perhaps you should be using something more performant than Python in the first place?" without revealing my high salt levels
 
@Kevin how about "benchmarks need to be decidedly different to be treated as evidence that a refactoring will offer definite benefits"?
 
4:09 PM
Incidentally my own quick benchmark reveals:
('multi_map:', 1.5216782854791766)
('mapProcces:', 1.559787425264603)
But running it again reveals:
('multi_map:', 1.6183847068997985)
('mapProcces:', 1.540356891364475)
 
Or even s/decidedly/repeataby/?
 
got my first ever job offer by linkedin
 
Congrats!
 
Conclusion: camelCased functions run faster the second time.
 
well, not that I am taking it
but still
@Kevin Always do camelCase
 
4:10 PM
I've been in their current office space, it's cool. Still disappointed they didn't call it LinkedIn Park. Also I hope they kept the slide.
 
Clarification request: do you mean "The company LinkedIn gave me a job offer", or "I got a job offer from some company, and they sent it to me using LinkedIn as a communication medium"?
 
I got a job offer from some company, and they sent it to me using LinkedIn as a communication medium
 
@Kevin camleCaseeee for the win! :D It happens to me too, i've always figured that another process is active in the same time so the thread gets interrupted. So mostly i average those 2 times.
 
Not that the two interpretations are mutually exclusive. If LinkedIn wanted to give a job offer, they might very well send it via LinkedIn.
Tech companies do so love to eat their own dog food.
 
Linkedin should fire their android team
the app is so bad
 
4:15 PM
@KevinMGranger sounds like they need to start doing DNS hosting
 
@Danilo As I said yesterday, timeit tests can be misleading; in particular, you need to build the arg lists in the setup phase, not during the timing phase, or the stuff you're trying to time gets swamped by the time it takes to build the lists, so the figures you end up seeing are mostly noise.
 
Measuring performance is another one of those hard things ;)
 
"Enumerating the full list of the hardest problems in programming" is one of the hardest problems in programming.
 
@PM2Ring i mostly use a batch script to load up arguments and call function directly from module via console. But i guess i could write up a script that does exactly that.
 
DSM
@Kevin: re: dog food, do you remember the story of when Fizzy went to meet the Ninja?
 
4:23 PM
I'm afraid not.
 
decided not to comment. well personal use only it seems
 
"The Ninja was a studious worker, storing up food for winter. But the Fizzy wiled away his time making flashy linear regression charts with matplotlib..."
 
@Danilo timeit makes it pretty easy to specify what you want done in the setup, whether you're using it from a script or the command line so you just need to move as much stuff as possible into the setup. And try to minimize background tasks during the tests, eg don't play music.
 
DSM
@Kevin: I can't find the link now, but it was something about how he was surprised that some access-related thing could be keyed to your Facebook account, and it took him a while to realize why. ;-)
 
oh yeah, that was later last year that came up, right?
 
4:32 PM
@khajvah Linkedin should just fire the entire company, burn the buildings down, salt the earth and then kill the people who did the salting and firing just so it can be forgotten forever.
 
:D
 
May 12 '16 at 20:03, by Ffisegydd
I kid you not. Martijn had to send me an invite via email to get me in the building. So he sent it to my email address and then also added me on Facebook. He said "Oh your email address registered your fb account so I added you too." and for a good 10 seconds I was like "Why would a registration system bother to suggest my Facebook account?" until the penny finally dropped.
 
DSM
@PM2Ring: I nod in respect of your search-fu.
 
oh I remember that!
hmm, I started frequenting here in March
 
@AndrasDeak how're things down your way anyway? still super frozen?
 
4:42 PM
Slowly thawing:)
we've got a mild chill around here again, but only -5 - -10
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to configure a twilio.twiml.Response to use a certain voice for every .say() instead of specifying it every call?
 
otherwise all's fine, thanks
 
@DSM Thanks. There's a fresh untagged Numpy question you might find interesting stackoverflow.com/questions/41811274/…
 
wait, is it numpy?
oh it is, .transpose
 
Yep, but he maxed out the tags
 
4:51 PM
I'm pretty sure [numpy] > [optimization] on this one
I'll edit
 
DSM
neural-network doesn't seem useful either.
 
no, I'll ditch neural-net
ninjad by DSM
I removed both irrelevant tags
 
Ta. Editing stuff on the phone is a little painful.
 
I don't really understand the question, but I've got a rendezvous with a cup of coffee anyway
 
5:22 PM
bye
 
5:37 PM
Media chat. This weekend I watched Netflix's A Series of Unfortunate Events. I can confirm that the title is an honest assessment of the plot.
My reaction as the credits rolled:
This is doubly appropriate since Will Arnett is still partially responsible.
I watched the series hoping it would get farther into the books than the Jim Carrey film did. It did... But only by one book. It's going to take two more seasons to get through the rest.
At this point it would probably be faster for me to just read the books.
Incidentally it's kind of jarring to watch multiple Netflix originals in a row since their roster tends to overlap. Alfre Woodard plays an amoral councilwoman in Luke Cage and a pitiful agoraphobe in ASOUE. Rhys Darby plays a neglected stay-at-home husband in ASOUE and a semi-daring space lieutenant in Voltron. This is what is known as "tone whiplash".
 
The books are wonderful(ly terrible)
I mean.. it's what it says on the tin
I've heard good things about the series, which I was kind of expecting, because Netflix
 
The only thing I outright didn't like was when they used CG backgrounds and it was obvious that they were doing so. Maybe a once-per-episode occurrence.
Like, I get that it was necessary when Violet was using a grappling hook to ascend up the side of a building, because I don't expect a child to perform a real stunt like that, but then it happens when they're just standing in the forest and I'm like "???"
Couldn't find a real forest to stand in, then?
(Here is the part where I get lectured about how it's actually quite difficult to perform a film shoot in the forest what with the uncontrollable weather and mountain lions)
 
5:58 PM
anyone wanna host some `BeautifulSoup` for me? I need to `import soup` for my cold
/me goes back to bed
 
did you discuss this here yet?
 
@inspectorG4dget get well soon
 
@AnttiHaapala Haskell is hard
It's not just different, it's hard and unnatural in the beginning
 
weird, it's as if six million years worth of evolution has failed to equip you to handle functional programming
7
 
my point is, Haskell isn't supposed to take over
Average programmer won't touch functional programming
or would but in a language like Scala
 
6:12 PM
I use functional programming. Sometimes I type lambda or map in python!
 
:|
 
My programs are functional except when they aren't.
 
i have a problem maybe someone can help me. I want to establish a new py object ( derived from object class , like class someclass(object) ). This new object would be different since i don't have to code specific sets of setitem, delitem,getitem, getattributes with strings as values, get attributes with numerical values etc etc for every new instace of lets-call-it myobject.
i have tried with class myobject(object): #global variables, def init ( local variables )
is there a way to see the code for python object so i can modify it to my needs ?
 
... Do you want a Namespace?
>>> import argparse
>>> x = argparse.Namespace()
>>> x.blah = 42
>>> x.troz = "Hello how are you?"
>>> x.blah
42
>>> x.troz
'Hello how are you?'
 
your first problem is that we probably won't understand what is it that you're asking
 
6:21 PM
side note: use python3, in which case you don't need to explicitly inherit from object
 
@PM2Ring stackoverflow.com/posts/41811552/revisions It (the function) was never called when I commented; OP editted his question, but I deleted my comments since he edited his question.
 
Also supports attribute creation at initialization:
>>> x = argparse.Namespace(blah=23)
>>> x.blah
23
 
neat
 
@Kevin slap
>>> import types
>>> types.SimpleNamespace()
namespace()
>>> types.SimpleNamespace(answer=42)
namespace(answer=42)
 
It's not my fault that the google results for "Python namespace" don't mention the types module in the first page of results.
 
6:24 PM
@Kevin it is
 
Why's everyone trying to rustle my jimmies today :-|
 
January 23rd is "Rustle Kevin's Jimmies" day, don't you have a calendar?
 
@Kevin Maybe because you haven't produce another beautiful mesmerizing gif to this chat room in a while.
 
ok i will do research for namespace , and i will be back :D ( told in terminator voice ) but till then think about it as class unnamedPoint which is base object, then unit vector is defined with unnamedPoint, a lot of unitvectors define space, space define point, point define line etc etc till you come out with whole mathematicaly defined space.

I need this structure since i need to use positional between several objects ( which are sometimes deifned as interseciton betwine 2 planes, or plane and a shape ... )
 
@Kevin if the correct answer doesn't come up first in google it is because you didn't write the q/a yet!
 
6:26 PM
and is needed to be later used with static and mechanical types ( movement, stability, dinamics etc )
 
you're not making sense. Perhaps you'd just want to use numpy :D
 
no, numpy uses lists . this would use objects. you 'd define a space as you would define a space in complex mathematical formula on piece of paper
and to point out in advance , if i could use lists, i would
think about it as like this, when you first define a space it is nothing, but you need to define something to describe that space so you use axies, but what defines that axies. we need some value for that unknown space to be defined, so you use unit vectors. The number of unit vectors is equivalent to specification of sed space
when you use lists, and use definitive point objects ( width, height etc ) when we have objects with n+1 (n>=4) sides the complexity of program is to big to maintain. but in architecture that is just a normal day.
 
I use points/vectors/lines/planes in my own projects all the time and I've never had to specially implement __getitem__ for each one or anything.
 
it is not homework question, architects do not learn coding, at least not this kind of coding.
they learn connect the boxes coding
 
I'm pretty sure MooingRawr's comment is not part of our conversation.
 
6:36 PM
oooww.... ups. sorry @MooingRawr
dont :D
 
Er. Which isn't to say that we can't have multiple conversations concurrently
Oh jeeze you deleted everything, I didn't want that.
 
yes...i did not want that either... please bring it back. Im sorry.
 
Sorry, But I'm channeling my inner Marcus ;3
 
cbg room6
 
Oh well, such is life.
 
6:39 PM
@idjaw \o cbg Joe, wadddup
@Kevin Fine ill give you the quote I was commenting about
> If you couldn't do it yourself, try learnpythonthehardway
The 'learnpythonthehardway is hyperlinked to your favourite book /s
 
I have this weird feeling reading Java oracle tutorial. I press next next all the time because I feel I already know the stuff but I end up learning nothing
 
lists are bad when you need to figure out relation of dodecahedron and icosahedron, in shortest route, point of intersection ( in one point, not a plane or a shape ) , the shrotest distance. etc
and if you factor in rotation per n angle, it gets to complex. it is easier to say, get point a with point b, if a-b < d( circ(shape(A)) - circ(shape(B)) )
going to research the namespaces
 
That all sounds like stuff you can do with perfectly ordinary classes. I don't know why you need to research anything. Just write a regular old Point class.
 
@Danilo numpy doesn't use lists
@Kevin *irons Kevin's jimmies*
 
@AndrasDeak if i were to belive official webiste, they use arrays for most of their computing , arrays ( maybe perhaps even vectors ) in c++ are very similar to py lists
 
6:48 PM
yes, except they are entirely not similar
arrays in c++ are like arrays in python
lists in python are more like linked lists in c++
lists are native python objects, arrays are a different kind of container, and there are array.arrays and numpy.arrays etc.
and numpy typically uses numpy.arrays (numpy.ndarrays to be precise)
 
wim
I'm very relieved to see that an executable Pipfile format was decided against 👍👍
 
so when you're talking python, don't call a list an array and an array a list; they are very different
 
wim
I've never heard of TOML before this, but it looks fine. Although I do wonder where YAML fell short
 
be precise for maximal efficiency and being-taken-serious-ness
 
ok... they are different. Thanks for advice, i truly thought that difference was not-as-important for this case. Since, arrays, lists, and vectors are not adequate for clearly undefined space. To be honest i would need for unit vectors alone some cross-breed between py dictionary and c++ vectors with additional information
 
6:56 PM
> Reference data type parameters, such as objects, are also passed into methods by value.
 
@Danilo I'm missing all context of your problem, but what vague impression I got from your few messages I don't see why you can't use arrays
 
This sounds misleading
 
an unnamedPoint can be a 1d array with n elements in an n-dimensional space
 
My own (admittedly hacky) Point class stores its values in a list. It works.
 
you can store a collection of N unit vectors in a 2d array of shape (N,n) or (n,N)
 
6:57 PM
"But is it fast?" you hypothetically ask? I am done answering questions for today.
 
you can use scipy.spatial.distance and other treats to handle these pointy arrays
or do whatever you want in a hopefully vectorized way
 
@Kevin sorry if i drived you away.
 
this isn't the first time that you seem like insisting on reinventing the wheel, @Danilo
which can be a nice hobby, but you keep reminding us that you're an architect and I'd think that entails a kind of pragmatism:P
 
@wim someone said that yaml is "too complicated"
 
(That last sentence was a reference to The Tao of Programming 4.3 wherin the ostensibly wise instructor changes the subject when it's evident he's been driven into a corner, and not actually a genuine statement of intent)
 
7:00 PM
@AnttiHaapala to read or parse?
 
write
by hoomans
 
oh
that's stupid
 
it is
 
@AnttiHaapala Antti, do you follow that "Stop writing classes" presentation when doing Java?
 
I'd rather throw away the stupid toml, yaml 1.2 is a json superset.
apparently you cannot make all of json into toml
 
7:05 PM
I gotta convert a PHP application to JS, what do?
 
quit
 
im sorry, i will figure it out.
I , did not want to come out as egoistic person... i am sorry.
it's just very hard to explain without drawing.
 
Communicating with other humans is one of the hardest problems in programming.
Which is why we try to do as little of it as possible ;-)
 
@Kevin Programmers are bad at hooman
 
7:08 PM
@khajvah Only if they don't own a pupper or a doggo
 
what's doggo?
 
A large pupper
 
Whoops I can't do relational logic today
 
I have a doggo then
 
7:13 PM
@WayneWerner is this where it all started?
 
@dog_rates, DM YOUR DOGS, WE WILL RATE
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@khajvah It's a meme from the interweb, where pics of puppers and doggos are exchanged for interweb fame and points.
 
Unrelated: I've been waiting patiently to say "rock the khajvah" since I thought of it last month but I have yet to find a good opportunity
 
Nov 8 '16 at 10:47, by randomhopeful
@JRichardSnape Rock the Khajvah
I am sorry, Kevin
 
7:15 PM
@Kevin Shareef don't like it
 
How do you pronounce 'khajvah'? k-ha-jah? is the v silent?
 
you pronounce "j" like in gif
 
@khajvah That's fine. I'm immune to feeling bad about being unoriginal.
 
@khajvah Does. Not. Compute.
 
Implementation dependant
 
7:17 PM
It's unclear as to whether the V is silent, because Khajvah's explanation about whether the V is silent is itself silent
 
V is not silent
I think?
it's first 4 letters of my name + first 3 letters of my surname
 
@Kevin Love it
 
I know, I thought long before coming up with that username
 
I don't know if I would like Rock the Casbah as much if it wasn't a (kind of terrible) level in TFC
 
DSM
TFW when you get an email from a project you work on with the subject "Python expert needed" but don't have time to contribute: :-(
 
7:22 PM
"Let's compromise. I'll sit in your office working on my own stuff, and you can bask in my expertful glow"
 
@Danilo I didn't mean that, I was only noting what I see:) As I see it, you're only making your own job harder. But that's not an issue for me :D
 
> When I first started using Hibernate as an ORM, I thought it was great, it had it's problems, and it wasn't perfect, but it was better then what I was doing before. I was happy with it, until I did an application with Django's ORM on a python project, and that opened up my eyes, that is how an ORM is supposed to work.
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Q: Why isn't Java used for modern web application development?

CliffAs a professional Java programmer, I've been trying to understand - why the hate toward Java for modern web applications? I've noticed a trend that out of modern day web startups, a relatively small percentage of them appears to be using Java (compared to Java's overall popularity). When I've a...

 
@khajvah D: D: D:
 
@wim dats cool
 
7:29 PM
@AndrasDeak You're just jealous that Andrdea doesn't scan as well.
 
shoot
 
@khajvah And that doesn't even make it to sqlalchemy
 
@WayneWerner he does mention sqlalchemy
to be honest
I just didn't include it for drama
 
7:46 PM
     [exec]   fatal error: too many errors emitted, stopping now [-ferror-limit=]
     [exec]   20 errors generated.
     [exec]   error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1
not off to a good afternoon
 
who needs exec anyway
the obvious solution is to increase -ferror-limit
make the code more robust
 
Make it even buggier until the value overflows and you have -32768 errors, giving you the correctest program ever made.
 
^^ you know...I'm actually curious to see what happens at that point.
 

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