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12:00 AM
@MorganThrapp awesome. I'm glad you like it! :)
 
It's the perfect level of peat for me.
It's definitely very smokey, but I can still pick out some other flavors, and the finish is really nice.
 
@MorganThrapp yeah...for someone who doesn't usually favour peat, it was quite pleasant
 
haven't bought scotch for a loong time...
perhaps I should too :D
@MorganThrapp how many $ for a bottle?
 
@AnttiHaapala It was like 50.
 
12:09 AM
do you tend to lean more towards smokey or smooth/sweet whiskey's @AnttiHaapala ?
 
64.60 € here ://
@idjaw well, I like both
 
great. that bottle morgan mentioned is fantastic. Also, typically I've never had a bad Balvenie
 
My next bottle is probably going to be something by Talisker.
 
nice choice
 
I've never tried any of their stuff, but I've heard great things.
 
user559633
12:17 AM
my next bottle is going to be something good like jack daniels or fireball
 
ewww
anw I guess time to go to bed
3:17 here :P
 
user559633
or maybe i'll get a bottle of gluten free whiskey like russian standard
 
What is your preference is scotch, Tristan?
 
@tristan step it up get honey jack
 
user559633
12:20 AM
yes
 
"american" :D
 
Oh lord, honey whisky is vomit inducing.
 
user559633
haha i drank a bottle of that in one sitting when playing skyrim
 
It tastes like fake maple syrup and ever clear.
 
user559633
I like a lot of whiskies and scotches. Hard to say a favorite without specifying criteria
 
12:22 AM
Do you prefer something more/less peated?
 
whiskey festival I went to once had a Jack Daniels stand. It was really funny.
 
I'm definitely a maximum peat kinda guy.
I went to a wing festival that had a planet wings (terrible chain place). They were by far the worst wings I've ever had.
Lukewarm and the sauce was like congealed snot over an anemic wing.
 
When I was in SF my friends and I found a wing place called Wing Wings....we made it our mission in the week I was there to have every flavour wing they offered
 
user559633
e.g. Oban is good as a nice, clear whiskey. That crown royal harvest rye was good for a sub $40 mixing scotch (Bulleit is a good mixing rye as well if you need a big bottle). Green spot is a nice niche find here in the states. If I've been drinking a lot, Glendalough makes a poitin that serves as a good reminder that maybe it's time to call it a night. Generically, I'm a "peaty during the winter, smoother during the humid summer" guy
 
I haven't had Oban
 
12:26 AM
The one thing I miss about my old apartment was being in walking distance of bars that did 50c wings and $5 pitchers of beer on Mondays.
 
user559633
that sounds amazing
 
It was dangerous. The wings were great, and the beer was bud, so meh, but again, $5 pitcher.
 
user559633
$5 and $10 for 20 wings. Can't complain and bud is fine
 
I did 2 pitchers one night in like an hour. I had to be rolled home. :P
They had some ghost pepper wings there too. Those were a bad idea.
 
user559633
There's a place here that does 20 wings and a pitcher for $20. We could hit that up if you have any interest
 
user559633
12:29 AM
Yeah, no. Ghost pepper or aggressively hot are never worth it the following days
 
Sounds good to me! I haven't gotten beer and wings in a while.
 
@MorganThrapp oh god...you reminded me of a terrible AMAZING night I had back in university
 
Yeah, I made it 5 wings in and regretted it immensely the next day.
I spent a very long time on the toilet. :P
@idjaw Oh yeah?
 
user559633
I need to pick up those tickets tomorrow, but it seems like it would be a good idea to set reminders on saturday to drink water
 
We have a pub here that challenges you to finish their wings made with the hottest peppers ever apparently
 
12:31 AM
Hahaha, yeah.
 
ah here it is
I will not do this (even though I love food challenges).....I know people who have done it and took a couple days off work.
 
I would've been willing to try one of them back when I still had a tolerance for spice.
Two pitchers? Damn.
Two doubles is almost too much for me.
 
Yeah....it was ridiculous
what I thought was 20 minutes of going form point A to my gf place, was actually four hours
 
Gotta love that drunk time travel.
I started rereading discworld finally. I'm going to do it in chronological order, which I've never done before.
 
I've never heard of discworld until I showed up here
 
12:41 AM
Really? Those were such a big part of my childhood.
 
user559633
@idjaw same
 
user559633
i wonder how many people we could realistically get at a sopycon in upstate NYC at a campground
 
user559633
with spouses/friends/family welcome
 
upstate NYC, or upstate NY?
 
I could host in my tiny studio apartment.
 
user559633
12:49 AM
Sorry, upstate NY. Playing video games on other computer.
 
But yeah, we could do something in the Adirondacks, I think that would be pretty central for our NY/NJ/CA people.
 
user559633
I have space in my car for a couple people from the Boston area
 
If it's one thing I miss about NY, it's the adirondacks
 
Yeah, they are super nice. I'm about 3 hours south of them these days.
 
user559633
Thinking that I could buy a projector and a cheap screen and we could set it up outside. Do 2-3 days of talks with drinking/bbqing/outdoorsy stuff in between
 
12:52 AM
I would absolutely be down. With enough advance warning, I can probably go down on my own
 
user559633
Sorry, you once made a dirty, throw-away joke, so you're not invited.
 
Was it the innuendo they just made?
 
user559633
I think the latest we could have it this year would be october, which is too soon to plan
 
Yeah, that would be a little crazy.
 
user559633
I think maybe next May/June?
 
12:56 AM
I'm in Barcelona between the 22/29 of October
@tristan took me a while to catch that :)
 
Assuming I'm still in the area, I'm down.
Oh man, I'm super jealous. I'd love to go to Spain.
 
user559633
@idjaw fancy you
 
I know eh?
 
user559633
I could probably legitimize this as an event with sponsors, but then that means random people and more paperwork
 
Meh, I just wanna eat steak and drink with room 6.
 
1:02 AM
yeah!
 
user559633
yeah, that's exactly what i had in mind. camping with firepits, steaks on the grill, hanging out, some talks during the day to feed the brain and the stomach
 
I kinda want to do this now and like screw whatever I have coming up this weekend....
wait...I just uninvited myself again, didn't I, tristan?
 
user559633
haha. real talk for a quick second: no way would i un-invite someone from giving a talk because of a bad throw-away joke.
 
user559633
@idjaw if you ever want to come to boston, i'd be happy to host
 
Come this weekend! We can share the couch.
 
user559633
1:07 AM
planning a thing at a campground would take a bit more work though for transport/calling around for deals. i'll bring it up as a formal plan at the next room meeting
 
@tristan Thanks man. Same goes to you.
 
user559633
@MorganThrapp i have a couch with a surface that's the size of a twin mattress and a blow up bed :)
 
user559633
@idjaw cheers, i may take you up on that
 
Oh damn, getting fancy.
 
user559633
Haha, oh yeah man, I should have given you the head's up that I have plenty of room to host and it's not like you'll be sleeping on the hallway floor. I have space for 3 guests to have their own rooms at night
 
1:09 AM
that's awesome
 
user559633
More if it's summer and you don't mind a room with a lot of windows.
 
I'm honestly fine with whatever. I spent about 6 months sleeping on a sleeping bag on the floor in college because I was too broke to buy a bed. :P Anything above that still feels like luxury.
 
I only buy mattresses that are advertised at 3 am on cable
 
user559633
Same, but found on the street
 
helped a friend move a couch we found on the side of the road once
 
1:12 AM
My current bed I got for free from a college student who was graduating. I really need a new bed some day.
 
user559633
I had a roommate that would bring home basically anything he found on the street. Story 1: He brought home a bike frame that was rusted out at the bottom bracket and the down tube and asked suggested that I fix it up. Story 2: He brought home a block of wood.
 
Is there more to the block of wood story? Or did he literally just bring a block of wood.
 
user559633
It was a block of wood. That's all of it. "Hey I thought this was cool"
 
I'm still on the, he brought garbage home for YOU to fix
that's gold
 
Hahaha, that's almost great. Like, some sort of weird performance art.
 
user559633
1:15 AM
It was well meaning -- I had stripped/sanded/patched up a bike earlier in the year as a project
 
user559633
I think running water and electricity will be a requirement for lodging at SoPyConNY 2017
 
^ unless there is enough liquor such that nobody cares
 
how else are we going to talk to each other without electricity?
wait...were we meeting up to talk face to face?
 
user559633
Good point.
 
I thought we were just going to be in the same room and chat here
3
 
1:20 AM
though this could effect the quality of the presentations
 
user559633
@JGreenwell Haha. Showers and water in the morning is why I think it's required.
 
user559633
And multi-day steak-a-thons require plumbing
 
think of it like a camping trip ;)
 
user559633
Oh, background is that I'm seriously pitching the idea of a private/semi-private campground as a spot for a sopython US meetup
 
Showers? Just find a place near a lake. Who needs showers.
 
1:22 AM
@MorganThrapp I've slept on concrete and thought it was heaven (do not ask the circumstances) but that changes as you get older: sad to say
 
user559633
@JGreenwell lol same. "i can stretch out? omg this is amazing"
 
under extreme exhaustion any flat surface will suffice
 
lake? @KevinMGranger fancy, oh lala
 
user559633
hey aaron
 
under extreme exhaustion you can sleep and keep walking
 
1:23 AM
oh, Aaron! hey o/
 
I've had far more than my usual share of downvotes since dropping by earlier. Is that a signal that I should come here more frequently?
 
The worst was sleeping in the passenger seat of a car for a couple days at a music festival.
 
user559633
@AaronHall i think you should flag any answer/question you received a downvote on and say "what gives?"
 
user559633
Mob voting is not how we play here.
 
user559633
1:28 AM
lol like i need a computer to do that
 
user559633
fun fact: i wrote python for 10 minutes today. it felt...deluxe
 
@MorganThrapp yeah, cars suck for sleep (especially cause if its hot you have to deal with sun heating your car to oven and if it is cold you have to play the gas vs. heat ratios)
 
Yeah, this was last year in the middle of July. It was crazy hot.
 
@tristan I know that feeling. My constant shift between research, math, and programming makes me feel like I don't get to do any Python at all (followed by marathon coding sessions over 2 months)
 
why is this an exception?
for i in range(len(aList)):
 
1:32 AM
Because you rarely need the index when you can just iterate over the values. Unless you meant one of those error exceptions, in which case we'd have no idea
 
cause something is wrong above or below that line of code and the traceback is not clear <- best guess
 
yup...unless aList is a number, there is nothing wrong with what you wrote to raise an exception.
 
user559633
@JGreenwell I'm doing JS or explaining the "product" as of late. JS is fine, but I haven't had a "oh i can just do X, Y and be done" moment in the lang
 
Ah, the I spent the last 2 years working on this: let me explain it in 30 minutes type of deals?
 
it keeps throwing 'TypeError: 'list' object is not callable' on that line though..
 
1:35 AM
You are overshadowing len, because you probably are using len somewhere in your code as a list
 
user559633
@user5797668 please post your code in a pastebin or gist
 
for i in range(len(seq_from_band_v)):
seq_from_band_v is of type list
 
user559633
42 secs ago, by tristan
@user5797668 please post your code in a pastebin or gist
 
put another way: that code is fine the error is somewhere else
 
^^
 
1:37 AM
He's probably in an interpreter & should just restart it.
 
but the traceback is clear
the exception is on that line
 
user559633
1 min ago, by tristan
42 secs ago, by tristan
@user5797668 please post your code in a pastebin or gist
 
Yes, it's clear that you've assigned a list to len or range
 
2 mins ago, by idjaw
You are overshadowing len, because you probably are using len somewhere in your code as a list
 
everything prior on the call stack is fine
 
1:38 AM
restart your Python, if that doesn't work, do what Tristan said.
 
I guess Python is broken then
 
ghost in the machines
 
speaking of which. I somehow managed to destroy my Python3.4 by messing around too much bouncing between 3.4.3 and 3.4.0
trying to find the error I kept getting trying to run my code
 
for i in range(len(seq_from_band_v)): is the only relevant code
in the debugger seq_from.. is plainly a list
 
if that wasn't @idjaw - I would be shocked ;P
 
1:39 AM
and.. exception "list is not callable"
 
ah here it is
 
user559633
2 mins ago, by tristan
1 min ago, by tristan
42 secs ago, by tristan
@user5797668 please post your code in a pastebin or gist
 
TypeError: Cannot extend enumerations
 
user559633
RoomOwnerError: Got sick of regulars repeating themselves
 
no one else on my team could reproduce using the same py version. I bumped the py version in tox to 35 just to see what would happen. aaand tests passed
jenkins was even passing on py34
 
1:41 AM
why would you possibly ban me for not immediately conforming to your demand that i paste code???
 
user559633
3 mins ago, by Aaron Hall
restart your Python, if that doesn't work, do what Tristan said.
 
it turns out it was exactly what 2 users suggested
 
user559633
@user5797668 because you're being annoying by ignoring what people are telling you.
 
dude....
 
and i fixed it, and showing more code was completely unnecessary ..
 
user559633
1:41 AM
great, try irc from now on
 
user559633
i have channelled my inner davidism
 
=|
wait....that wasn't it..
andras always has the quote handy...I'm too lazy
 
hmm...no bunnies
head->desk, head->desk, head->desk
 
 
just realized the massive errors in my programs were caused because I set the wrong phonetic transcripts in my corpus
 
1:49 AM
heya davidism! o/
 
user559633
@JGreenwell lol i've done that before. I once pointed a NLP worker at a 500meg text file (indirectly via a glob) instead of the chunks it was supposed to be doing
 
forgetting to change dialects when changing samples oi
@tristan ah those errors where you try and hit ctrl-c as fast as humanly possible and realize it was too late
 
user559633
@JGreenwell haha yeah. this was actually a "kick this off while i make dinner...wait, why is the laptop fan going nuts"
 
"Honey, did you burn dinner? I smell smoke"
 
cbg
 
user559633
1:54 AM
cbg
 
user559633
ooh that reminds me that i should eat. gf is out, so that means it's "lettuce + cheese + salsa + wrap == close enough to be tacos" night
 
Oh, vegetarain tacos. AKA sad tacos.
 
my wife always gets mad at me when she's out cause dinner for me is usually: cold soup or cereal
 
user559633
more like "afk brb video game tacos"
 
Isn't cereal a type of cold soup?
 
user559633
1:59 AM
haha yeah. gf home == i'm a chef. gf away == handful of dry rice and gargle with whiskey
 
s/gf/wife and you have pretty much the same here
 
@KevinMGranger not in my head but sure just for you it can be ;)
 
While we're classifying food, have I asked you all if you consider a taco a sandwich?
 
user559633
is a hamburger a sandwich?
 
user559633
@KevinMGranger i'd suggest no, because opening only on one side
 
2:02 AM
hamburgers are definitely sandwiches
 
Subs only open on one side.
 
a taco is a sandwich the same way a pita is a sandwich
#NotAllSubs
 
tacos are tacos
 
They're meat, cheese, veggies, etc. held within 2 sides of a wheat product. Sounds like a sandwich to me.
 
^ corn product
 
user559633
I wish I had gummy bears. Peaty whiskey and haribo is legitimately one of my favorite meals
 
emparedado vs bocadillo vs torta - nope taco is taco
 
Gross little grub that was digging in our yard today
and with that, rbrb
 
user559633
take care bud :)
 
bocadillos are delicious by the way - made with proper bread instead of pan de molde and good serrano
probably why I don't consider tacos sandwiches actually - sándwich is defined as American and European sliced bread sandwiches, Bocadillos (or tortas) as subs, and emparedado as a tourist trap - so Taco was Taco and in none of these categories
 
user559633
2:12 AM
I'd love a proper spanish sandwich right now
 
granted to this day I drive my friends nuts by trying to order "wraps" as burritos
If you ever see Emparedado on a menu - do not order it btw - I have literally never seen it used in spoken or written Spanish outside of laughing at people for ordering it
 
Has anyone been following this Halo 5 Forge business? It seems like it's just the next Halo: Custom Edition
 
user559633
halo doesn't scratch the itch for me
 
yeah. halo never did it for me
 
I'm still in shock from the image of whisky and gummy bears as a meal
 
user559633
2:27 AM
It's so good.
 
user559633
lagavulin 16 + a half pound of haribo + a video game == your lad's night off, sorted
 
I approve of the whisky choice at least (good taste and smooth flow for the price)
 
user559633
peaty enough, but a full meal of that will wreck your next day
 
user559633
jgreenwell: are you up north at any point next spring/summer? would be great to share some steaks and whiskeys
 
I have no idea - in that just finished Masters; applying everywhere for jobs/PhD studies stage
 
user559633
2:31 AM
ah, cool (congrats again, btw)
 
but my wife's family is all in NY so if I do get a bit of vacation, I'll certainly let you know (and will likely require a "get away from in-laws" break anyway ;)
thanks
granted I also used to love butterscotch candies (the chewy, toffee like ones not hard candy) with Scotch.....okay, I can accept this - shock has passed
 
user559633
yeah, it's all about resetting the tastebuds so you can beat on them again
 
great now I'm thinking of sweet and Scotch and want a hot toddy (hot whiskey)
 
user559633
2:47 AM
hot toddys are delicious. is it cool enough for that where you are?
 
bah, sometimes its just worth it
 
gah too late in the evening to have dealt with awful git cherry picking and rebasing
 
3:09 AM
cbg o/
(now I want haribo gummy bears...)
 
user559633
sorry about that
 
just caught up on user's question x_x
 
wtf
this person just took my code from my answer
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A: How to stop python script from exiting on error

Nitin VermaThere are two ways: 1.) Either you can remove the brittle code to make sure expection doesn't occur. Example: from time import sleep import pythonwhois def lookup(domain): sleep(5) response = pythonwhois.get_whois(domain) ns = response.get('nameservers') return ns with open("t...

 
=[ I cast two votes...that's not cool
 
thanks....someone upvoted them hehe..wow.
 
user559633
3:24 AM
edit: not really, i thought i'd have a joke by the time you responded
 
figured
 
user559633
Gosh, I really like Davidism
 
user559633
I really liked the answerer's latest book "Better Tale of Two Cities"
 
if you fall to deeply into davidism - beware. For there can only be one!
 
user559633
 
3:28 AM
was that a recent love letter?
 
user559633
In case y'all ever thought it glamorous having your name in italics. Not betraying a user's trust because it's public chat.
 
yeah no need to disclose that
 
@tristan <3
 
@davidism thanks for the comment.
 
I'm somewhat disappointed we haven't received any interesting sopython mail lately.
 
user559633
3:29 AM
I got a "death threat" recently, that was cute. Unrelated to SO.
 
this saddens me =[
 
=/ that's really shitty man
 
well, just remember people who complain are way louder than the people who quietly appreciate what you guys do =]
 
hehe
 
user559633
Haha, not really. Why would I take it seriously?
 
3:30 AM
Thanks for your suggestions. I am quite new here, still learning .. :) — Nitin Verma 1 min ago
 
user559633
"Hmm, I better warn him first, he'll hate that"
 
Member for 2 years, 5 months
 
heyyy my profile says I've been around for 4 years but that's because I made an account 4 years ago and then never did anything
 
user559633
^similar.
 
until like a month or two ago :P so I do consider myself really new haha
 
3:31 AM
ok. Agreed. :) I've done the same thing
and their activity did start late august
so yes. Corrected :)
 
I don't even remember why I made an account...was it the case you had to before in order to read answers? O_o
 
I don't remember why I created an account in the first place
 
user559633
I think I created an account because I wanted to procrastinate on work by doing someone else's job
 
definitely not to read answers, because my account is a little over 3 years old and I've been working professionally for over 10 years....I've definitely been on SO way beyond 3 years ago :P
 
user559633
yeah, i avoid reading at all costs (you think i'm joking, don't you?)
 
3:36 AM
Joined in August 2010, my first answer was in Jan 2012, my first non-self-removed answer was in Jun 2013.
 
@tristan No. I actually think you have dictation enabled
:)
 
I swear I joined so that I could vote, and I remember my votes sticking, but that can't be right because you need 15 rep to vote.
 
nah, I used SO for JS answers when working as a developer 4 years ago (and hated it): moved to Python and suddenly it seemed interesting
 
when I started answering stuff here I looked at python, jquery, html, and css tags. now it's almost all python, because it's just a lot more pleasurable to answer those questions than create jsfiddles all the time >_>
 
user559633
3:39 AM
Oh wait, I remember. I needed a help with Drupal, found a similar question, and ended up answering it instead.
 
actually I hated the JS stuff not because of answers but because it seemed like all the OPs just wanted a JSFiddle made that they could copy and paste (having done other forums before this in other languages - this was not what I wanted to see)
 
user559633
Haha, look at Tristan Jr, he still thinks his life is on the way up.
 
There's a lot of cheering in those comments.
 
those comments, man, those comments
 
user559633
3:42 AM
God yeah. Stay in that bubble, alternate timeline Tristan.
 
I've since switched to a Python/C stack. Cheers — tristan Nov 4 '14 at 15:20
and that's when the whiskey started
 
Literally, since WSGI is pronounsed "whiskey".
 
user559633
the future only holds being blamed for the internet, past tristan. p.s. stay at that startup for another 3 months so your options vest.
 
C leads to whiskey, Python leads to good whiskey - why this is remains a mystery
 
user559633
p.s. apple is still a good buy at its current price. p.s. trust mom when she warned you about irish girls
 
3:45 AM
irish girls on tequila is still a minor nightmare of mine
 
user559633
nods knowingly
 
DSM
End-of-gridiron cabbage for all.
 
cabbage
 
o/
I don't get the zipper mouth though
 
DSM
4:02 AM
There's a company zipcloud.. maybe it's a ref?
 
I assumed it was just a visual reference to a "secret" (i.e. don't tell anyone the cloud is a lie)
 
DSM
Maybe, but given that the message is on a shirt, I think the horse has left the stable on that one..
 
sure but that was probably made by marketing types who thought they had just been let in on the big secret
 
DSM
I might have just done a crossed-out cloud, at least if you could do it without it looking too Ghostbustery.
 
oh I would really love this: zapier.com/zapbook/exchange/slack
but considering Microsoft recently announced they are improving Skype to compete with slack...probably unlikely
 
4:07 AM
yeah, also I can't uninstall Skype (just remove it down to a "demo" version) in Win10
 
DSM
NumberFirm officially uses Spark, but the dev teams all use Slack. The firm might be moving to Cisco's Jabber, but I don't know much about it and dev basically gets to set our own policies as long as they don't affect anyone else..
 
Cabbage :-)
 
Jabber sucks - we used it at my last workplace: basically just MSN chat client-thing with some phone options
 
It is... lovely weather we are having. I hope the weather continues.
utters to self The area is secure.
 
4:26 AM
Read the second heading of the room rules
 
DSM
Ehh.. I don't know if that applies. That was a question about a better way related to a posted answer.
 
it says question/answer in the heading (I always took it to mean both cause most of use active in that tag have probably seen the question/answer and would comment) - also long day and might just be a bit to trigger happy though
probably the latter and its time to sign off
rbrb all
 
DSM
Rhubarb, JG!
12:34 seems a poetic time to sign off, so rhubarb from me as well. :-)
 

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