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12:01 AM
Oh dear. We have a 30k utterly useless user in [matlab], always asking, often stupid. Now they started asking python. On Unix.SE. I don't know where to go to cry.
 
Would appear that's not new. This would account for up to 2500 of that 30k stackoverflow.com/questions/739993/… ...
:9
 
BAH
 
and Grrrr
 
Also, they posted 2 duplicate answers along the lines of "how to install with pip" to two separate questions
they apparently ran into a problem and solved it, answered where they found similar questions
I'd rather not tell them they can CV as dupe, lest they start moderating
I hope tristan sees my edits here ^ and twitches
 
If a user is posting identical or near-identical answers to multiple questions, flagging has worked for me in the past.
 
12:08 AM
Dup it : stackoverflow.com/questions/477486/… found in 2 secs on google viz "python float range step"
 
@ZeroPiraeus maybe I'll do, thanks
although I can see they're trying to be helpful
I'm just chronically pissed at them
 
I always wonder how a 30k user can fail to google first. Or google effectively. Or something.
 
No, you see, they are An Asker
they don't think, they ask on SO
hence my being chronically pissed at them
800+ questions, 200+ of those are self-favourited
 
user559633
Newest Questions (862) whoa
 
"predoctoral researcher" hmmm. Lazy then.
 
12:11 AM
@JRichardSnape thanks a lot for the dupe!
 
The user is so bad nowadays, that for a while we suspected that there may have been a takeover/transfer of the account
but then we found ancient poo in their profile, so they are merely stupid as yam
 
> we found ancient poo in their profile,
Lol
 
user559633
stupid might be a bit harsh
 
it might
stupid is the nicest assumption I can make
 
user559633
12:15 AM
looks at hands who am i?!
 
TBH, no harsher than a lot of things I have seen written in here. Who knows.
 
all other options assume malevolence on their side
 
user559633
my new year's resolution is to stop being literally the most hyperbolic person
 
I'm unsure whether it is kinder to assume someone stupid, lazy, or actively malevolent.
 
user559633
i'm all three. do i win asshole-bingo?
 
12:17 AM
You are Programmer, kemosabe.
 
user559633
slight bonus of working 18 hours a day: finding all kinds of new music on the interbutts
 
was fully braced for a rick roll there.
 
dangers of having Python chat open #3: Tristan distracts from work with music videos
;)
 
Must... sleep...
 
user559633
12:26 AM
oh wait, it was another silly video. forgot that it's considered naughty in here to deceptively or vaguely describe links
 
"An abstract gateway through the internet with keys to Hyrule Castle"
there, a vague/deceptive description of a link
 
user559633
link is a gateway and has keys?
 
the Master Sword many times acts as a key for a dimension or time travel device
 
1:05 AM
siiigh
why did I start this
@idjaw: haters gonna hate. Nothing to be done about it. (And not all questions require and mcve... I ask for them all the time, but this question is very clear without one.) — tom10 50 secs ago
 
@tom10 I downvoted you, just now, for gaming the system. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/286072/…Zero Piraeus 18 secs ago
 
what coordinates? x and y only, do we need space for z (is x and y based on a full plane, partial graph, visualization). Are you literally wanting that to print "for x: ...." or do you want to do something for x,y coordinates - i.e. that could be returning a tuple or string or list (as it just asks to "remove brackets")
yep, that is clear
 
the OP accepted it. So turns out it was what they were looking for
but the data structure was weird to begin with
looked like a tuple, with a list of tuples
???
and I stand with the fact it promotes bad questions by not dupe targeting those questions
especially at that rep level
 
I get data structures like that alot....when I'm just trying to teach CS (not much outside but then I will never be surprised at badly formed data)
....actually that looks familiar
I use something similar when I want to see which people will build a for loop using math to iterate over the y values, hence 1,1,2 or 1,2,3, and which will flatten the structures and process the values
 
I can only say as a hater that yes, I hate. Fiercely.
 
1:20 AM
I don't mark down either approach usually (as long as they work) I just want to show why and when one would be better then the other in the next class
 
you should leave subtle hints for your preference of either, then mark down both approaches on the basis of being wrong/being a kiss-ass
oh, this is relevant:
2 mins ago, by Andras Deak
I can only say as a hater that yes, I hate. Fiercely.
:D
 
Well, thanks for the input on that answer guys.
 
I downvoted the question, it's not a good one/searchable one at all
now it should be eligible for wasting delvotes
 
the answer deserved a downvote as it is already in the dupe (and as the answer marked as a dupe that should have indicated he knew this so no mercy from me)
 
preaching to the choir here;)
 
1:31 AM
also: lol @AndrasDeak, if you start teaching I have to audit that class
 
just watch students lose their minds
 
I do teach, but physics, and I'm way too nice in reality
all the students passed the first mid-term which I put together myself
it was depressing
 
offer some really hard extra credit and then only give them 5 (possible) points for it
that will make you feel better ;)
 
:D
I'll try next year, thanks;)
 
1:43 AM
I actually had a professor that did that to me and a few other students
He later gave us more points but he wanted to teach us that the value should be in the knowledge not the rewards
I liked it but it kinda torpedoed his evaluations sssooo....
 
heh:D
 
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2:22 AM
it's always so...professional
rhubarb
 
 
1 hour later…
3:40 AM
Hi guys.
 
sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
server_address = ('192.168.112.210', 12355)
sock.connect(server_address)


try:
message = raw_input()
while len(message) > 2:
sock.sendall(message)
data = sock.recv(30)
print "received {}".format(data)
message = raw_input()

finally:
print "sock is closed"
sock.close()
hi, guys, this is what i write about a tcp client
the problem is that i can only get my first input back
the second input is missing, and the third input causes a broken pipe error
 
Python 2. Not gonna touch that
xD Sorry. Also fix the indent please?
I mean, I get it, but it just looks weird.
 
?
how to format code in this chat bar
 
Wait, let me test something
if:
test
oh
there we go
Kinda like how you format code in StackOverflow Q/A's, you put 4 spaces in front of every line of the code.
 
i failed to test that
test
 
3:44 AM
welp, gonna go be productive
rhubarb
 
yes
 
4:42 AM
hmm
is chat still buggy, no?
 
Dunno
What was up with it?
 
some lines didn't go through,
 
Ah okay
 
and the text never turned from green to black
there were some errors in the log
 
5:00 AM
MCVE? (what exactly are they trying to extract*) finding everything between two strings in a large text file with python regex - Jbrooks - 2016-06-07 03:53:30Z
 
Cabbage :-)
 
wat? was declined a NAA flag on this:
0
A: Volley Two http request from same fragment simultaneously

Boober BunzJust make another class and copy/paste your existing volley code into it... although there is absolutely no point to doing this... or did I misunderstand your question?

 
5:34 AM
I actually once wrote some Python that generated regexes to identify numbers divisible by N. Lost it in a hard drive catastrophe, but IIRC 11 was roughly the point where it used up all the memory on my machine, requiring a hard reset.
That last one is an answer per meta.stackoverflow.com/a/265553
 
6:40 AM
I read it as a request for clarification
 
6:57 AM
train cbg, by the way.
 
cbg
@AnttiHaapala Not really, it's a speculative answer. I guess the last part is a clarification request, though.
 
anw why no delvs for
-4
Q: Does SQL Server DBA having good oppurtunities over oracle...?

sivaramakrishnacan any body help me out for how is the job oppurtunities for sql server DBA...?is future is good for this position...?does it has more oppurtunities over oracle...? thanks, sivaram

or will this be roombaed?
 
7:12 AM
I roombaed it.
 
@AnttiHaapala I can't del-vote on-hold questions when they're that fresh. But I assume it will be roomba'd in a week or so, since it has a negative score, no accept, and no positive score answers. So there's really no point wasting del-votes on it.
Thanks, Martijn.
Yakk's joke Meta answer currently needs 2 downvotes to get back into balance.
 
Just 1 now
 
:)
 
7:40 AM
Uhoh, offline?
back again.
prolly a proxy failure.
 
8:31 AM
Cabbage!
 
Cabbaggio!
 
if I pop a list item, save the result in a variable and insert it into the front of the popped list...did I just implement a circular queue?
 
Sounds like it.
 
And yes, that is a pun.
 
8:45 AM
I never considered that it wasn't @robert. And I am honoured to join said ranks.
 
interesting...I was going to ask a proper question but then I was afraid of forgetting to properly tab, ctrl+K can only do so much. Anyone know how to copy/paste proper from VIM?
 
Depends on the os
And the shell
 
bash, debian...I think it's bash.
 
Select with your mouse and right click.
 
Is it the copying, or the pasting that is perturbing? I suspect the latter.
 
8:49 AM
I suspect I don't remember which one the latter means
 
I never quite learned how to use Visual in VIM.
 
If you paste your code verbatim and then press Ctrl-K, it will indent the lot. Hopefully you're using spaces, rather than tabs.
caveat if it's more than ~8 lines - put it in a pastebin instead.
Grr - buggy chat again
What have they done to my precccioussss?
 
Nope, that's probably where I'm off. I didn't think to use spaces instead of tabs.
 
Switch to spaces in all things :) There are whitespace fundamentalists lurking ;)
More seriously - it is recommended in Python ( Although that's just a recommendation - pace Poke)
 
hmmm...thanks for the tip, I thought that was a Ruby thing
so, the PEP is an entire manual for the language? people keep sending me to that site. I guess instead of being spoonfed I should fish once in a while.
 
8:56 AM
re-cbg
 
morning
 
@KennethOrton Well, PEP008 is a style guide for the Python portions of the Python standard library, you aren't required to follow them unless you're writing code that's intended to be part of the library. However, it is a Good Idea to follow PEP008 unless you have good reasons not to do so, since it is treated as a de-facto standard by many Python coders, so your code will look a bit odd to most Python coders if it doesn't follow PEP008.
@KennethOrton FWIW, inserting stuff into a list is a bit inefficient, since all subsequent items have to be moved up to make room; inserting at the head of the list is obviously the worst case. That happens at C speed, so it's faster than doing it "by hand" with a Python loop, but still... Rather than using a list for your circular queue, consider using a deque instead.
Another option is to use Numpy, which is considerably faster than deque. I don't know Numpy, but this answer looks good: stackoverflow.com/a/15970188/4014959
 
@KennethOrton we pythonists use Tab the key, however for us our editor inserts 4 spaces for each indentation level
 
When Antti goes into his bar to get a drink, he doesn't keep a tab, he keeps four spaces.
 
9:11 AM
no tabs in Finland :D
 
yeah that makes sense:D
your economy would crumble
 
actually here it is called "piikki" - a spike.
 
I'm not sure there's a word for it here...no tabs here either, usually. Probably just called "loan" or something
 
@KennethOrton Use It's all text instead :-)
 
9:13 AM
@AnttiHaapala oooh, that also makes sense
 
you cannot have a tab in Finland, but you can leave your credit card to the bartender
keeping tabs for loans is currently illegal
 
@AnttiHaapala you can leave your card to the bartender in Hungary too. Just don't expect to see it again;D
 
though... stupid government is going to change that
I do not understand what is the reasoning :D nothing good will ever come from that
 
from legalizing it?
I don't know... short-circuit drinking problems? Which I assume is a problem in Finland:D
 
the problem is that the alcohol consumption costs a LOT
but the problem users are the ones who go to work...
 
9:17 AM
:/
 
not the homeless people who live in parks
 
oh I never considered homeless people:D
 
in Finland they do
only homeless/almost drunkards are "problem users" here
 
so is the legal change due to the homeless in some way?
 
no
it is because the "economically liberal" government says it restricts bars too much that they cannot let people do IOUs for drinks
when the persons can still use a credit card :d
 
9:19 AM
pfft
 
and then all the media close to the current coalition then lie that "using credit card is technically illegal too"
which it is not :D
but now people are like "oh, good, so we legalize the credit cards in bars" :D
 
hooray for objective journalism!
 
<3
there is no objective journalism in Finland
 
we have the same thing, only our government is illiberal in every possible way
and media manipulation is much less subtle, none at all I'd say
and it still works
 
I am for all sorts of liberal thingies but seriously, this is not going to help alcoholics be freer the least :D
 
9:22 AM
yeah I can relate to that:D
we could argue that everybody has a right to go as down the gutter as possible, but we should at least not pro-actively help them achieve this
I might have butchered English there a bit, sorry natives
 
haha :d
 
and rhubarb for now, see you later
 
Here's some tasty Finnish blues: slide guitar queen Erja Lyytinen with her husband Davide Floreno playing the other guitar doing an unplugged version of Robert Johnson's Dust My Broom.
 
9:42 AM
cabbage with dental floss.
@Antti
@AnttiHaapala In Australia, in 35 years I have yet to meet a newspaper print journalist reporting on an issue I am involved in that has not said that what will get printed of their story will be what they actually witness and report as a journalist. That the editor will likely take a selective component of the story and run that.
So I conclude there is very little genuine objective and on the ground truthed journalism anywhere. (At least in western countries.)
Sorry for the @ - did not get that process right. Long day!
 
Yeah. However, in Soviet Union, they believed so much in the objective journalism that the major daily was named Truth.
 
I hope they were being ironic.
 
I actually have a question. I note if I try and access Super User with my Stackoverflow account, it seems I have to set up a new account. Is this the case or am I missing something?
 
could be
 
9:49 AM
I note when I sign out of Stackoverflow, that a few other sister sites some up, with the option to log out of all these sites on all devices. This leads to to wonder if the same account can be used across a few groups.
 
@Cam_Aust Kind of. But SuperUser will understand that you're already a StackOverflow member.
 
indeed...
 
So make up a new account/identify, or set up with the old one?
 
I am using facebook for login, it just works :d
a sec, let me see how to get in to English
 
OK - having watched my fellow humans consumed by facebook and likes, and suffering a lack of sunlight, I have avoided it. I guess I am weird.
 
9:52 AM
@Cam_Aust And when you hit 200 points on any Stack Exchange site you'll get an association bonus of 100 points on all the other sites, so you'll instantly have enough rep to comment, chat, & upvote.
 
ah no, when I go to english., the top bar says "Antti Haapala 101 rep"
@Cam_Aust I am trying to join ethereum.sex,
 
@Cam_Aust I've also strenuously avoided Facebook. I'm sure there are ways to make it work, but I've heard so much negative stuff about it that I've never been tempted to try it.
 
@AnttiHaapala Well I am now up to 65 points on an exponential curve (chuffed and smiling).
 
I click on the "join this community" link, and am redirected to a page that says:
"Confirm Your New Account

You are about to create a new account on Ethereum Stack Exchange using a login from
Facebook

We will automatically link this account with your accounts on other Stack Exchange sites."
should work the same way with stackoverflow login methinks?
 
@AnttiHaapala I was so very confused by that statement.
 
9:55 AM
@Ffisegydd :P
 
@AnttiHaapala OK so it would seem that if your using a Facebook account ... no OK, so your confused. Cool, not just me. Phew!
 
@Ffisegydd it is just like the ordinary thing, except it is in a block chain, and it is Turing complete.
 
@Cam_Aust Use the same identity that you're currently using to access Stack Overflow.
 
Sounds kinky.
 
@PM2Ring OK so your hanging back like me to be possibly eventually dragged in my necessity.
 
9:57 AM
I think I use my Google account for SE.
 
OK, all this helps thanks.
 
@Cam_Aust Hopefully, the necessity will never arise. :) My sisters and their kids are all on Facebook. They talked my Dad into setting up a Facebook account, but he avoids using it as much as possible. But I guess it can be handy to share family info & photos.
 
@PM
 
I used Facebook for Messenger only, then moved onto Whatsapp. Now I don't know why I keep it, easy to organise things through friends with it I suppose.
 
Dear Friends, I can successfully run the Python 3 code to convert image to Text using this code : gist.github.com/dannguyen/a0b69c84ebc00c54c94d
 
10:01 AM
Okay.
 
@PM2Ring Well for me, I love the internet, and I can not claim to not be somewhat screen addicted. However, I have watched friends and others locked into a tiny, now somewhat bigger phone screen 24/7. What bothers me is that their electronic and internet lives and and activities are so restricted to just basically social chat. Not more advanced endeavours like programming.
 
using code python3 cloudvisreq.py AIzaSyBN9afjFqq-zRPcr2Nntrgiow1n1k93YBg image1.pn
g > 1.txt
But I have no idea how to mention language there e.g Malayalam
 
I get on a Sydney train now, and of a carriage of 100 people, I will be the only one not immediately buried in a smart phone screen. Its scarily like a Dr Who episode on mass hypnotism.
@Ffisegydd Thanks, yes a Google account is a possible alternative. Thanks.
 
@Cam_Aust Yeah, I find it a bit mystifying. Why use all this fancy technology just to talk inane rubbish. :) But I guess the point is that people like the technology because it lets them be social with their friends no matter where they are, and to meet like-minded people around the globe. And to find people that they disagree with so they can have an argument, if that's what they feel like doing. :)
 
@Anes Not going to be able to help you code wise, however, checking the link, looks interesting.
 
10:08 AM
@Cam_Aust : I ask there is any method to refer language explicitly to google API?
 
@PM2Ring Yep, being an older person, seeing all the computing hardware capacity and it gets used 90% to watch movies and chat. I recall dreaming of the 'super computer' capacity now in every laptop for physics simulations and science breakthroughs. What a waste in one way, yet clearly happy humanity in the majority on the other. So I guess it is productive in its own way.
@Anes unfortunately I am new and on a programming learning curve of my own and lack the experience to suggest anything. I think your up to a google search or perhaps Git hub search. Malayalam is an Indian continent language predominantly spoken only in one State so it is there may not be translation.
 
didn't find a better pic, I've got the brainwash t-shirt. Healthier, happier, more productive. Fits here.
 
If a moderator deletes your answer and posts a comment to it, do you still get a notification for that comment?
 
dunno
 
@poke Yes
 
10:18 AM
can moderators post comments to deleted answers?
 
@AnttiHaapala Yes :)
 
@JonClements next question is: do you have highlights/pings for the word "moderator"
 
Can moderators listen in our conversations using our phones and the SE App?
 
@Ffisegydd yes
 
@JonClements Good to know, otherwise this action would have been somewhat stupid (although I think they should have closed the question in that situation too...)
 
10:19 AM
honestly thought that was a jokey reference to "if a tree falls in the forest ..."
 
@AnttiHaapala Laugh, spot on. Nice find. As much as I like to work, get paid, and the self responsibility thing, I do wonder if the current system is evolving into some sort of sophisticated new 21st Century version of slavery.
 
I am slave to King.com
but I wonder how in hell do they get the money?
 
@poke haha... yeah... in short, mods can leave comments on deleted posts and they're special cased to also put a copy straight in the user's inbox as well so they're less likely to get missed...
 
I see, thanks!
 
@AnttiHaapala wow $2.6 Billion in revenue in 2014 according to Wikipedia.
 
10:21 AM
yeah. I've been addicted over 2 years now :D
and I've not seen a single ad outside their own game network
and I've not been compelled ever to pay a single cent.
 
@AnttiHaapala Hmm .. that does make you wonder. How do they make the money?? Fund all those servers??
 
someone else pays :d
@Cam_Aust I mean, you can buy bonuses and more lives with gold that you can get with money.
but their games are just easy enough for me not to care
 
Ah OK, that makes some sense. Still $Billion. That is a lot of money.
 
Does flask have super cookie support?
 
@Anes According to the Google Cloud Vision API site, it has automatic language identification and it supports a broad set of languages. So if it doesn't automatically detect Malayalam then you may have to use something else, eg Tesseract. It looks like language files for Malayalam are available for Tesseract, but I have no idea how good they are.
What are your source images like? If they are good quality scans of printed documents then Tesseract should work well. However, it's not designed to extract text from random images.
 
10:27 AM
@Cam_Aust Well the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_dollar has a $100 trillion note :p
 
@Wally It has marvellous cookie support :-)
 
@Zero cookies!? nom nom nom... ooops... it had support...
(well - still does I guess - just doesn't need to any more...)
 
@ZeroPiraeus I mean super persistent cookie library like with supprt for flash cookies
 
I refuse to answer that question because just don't do that, there's enough evil in the world.
 
@JonClements Well that's inflation with a capital I !
 
10:30 AM
@JonClements
learn to specify the currency unit as well :d
 
@Cam_Aust Yeah.... 98% per day is fairly impressive :)
 
Been looking up Tesseract. There are so many programming environments, sites, repositories, options, projects, tools, its quite overwhelming. All interesting. Must limit to immediate learning curve!!
Well time for me to ruhbarb off! Enjoyed the chat and guidance.
@AnttiHaapala As for Dr Evil, if only those of that ilk were so stupid!
 
@ZeroPiraeus My mom wanted to convert me to her religion. I sarcastically said "You can't purge the evil within me because I'm the very definition evil according to your oly book"
 
Well Satan, that doesn't excuse abusive cookies.
 
Lol journalism. In Finland the members of the Left Alliance got to vote for the chairperson instead of a party congress. Now a newspaper has an editorial that says that this (members vote instead of closed congress chooses) reminds them of ways party leaders are chosen in Communist states.
 
10:43 AM
Business idea: a hyperinflationary-by-design cryptocurrency. The number of clock cycles to generate each coin reduces by an amount proportional to how fast the last coin was generated. To prevent utter collapse, periodic devaluations are built into the protocol, and users have to pay the central bank a fee to convert nCoins to n+1Coins.
Now I just need to come up with a philosophical theory tuned to be just idiotic enough that Ayn Rand fans will swallow it ...
 
@ZeroPiraeus what's wrong with the word randroid?
 
Nothing at all ... and I think I have a name for the currency now :-)
 
ah for the currency, dunning-krugerrand
 
which is an old joke as well
@ZeroPiraeus there's even an extension for Chrom*: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dunning-krugerrands/…
hmm the author of that extension couldn't spell kruger :D
 
@PM2Ring She is really good. I remember you linking something else by her previously. That's my afternoon's listening sorted, whilst writing an end of project report...
 
Found the way to forbidden knowledge github.com/samyk/evercookie
 

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