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12:40 AM
Rhbrb holden and cbg all :D
 
 
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3:42 AM
Anyone worked with numba ??
 
 
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5:57 AM
any python based headless browser to use on azure server? to use selenium scrapper on it
 
6:24 AM
cbg
 
6:37 AM
cbg
 
cabbage : ) I need to understand this terminology
 
Hey up
 
@thefourtheye thanks dude : D interseting terminology
 
6:53 AM
Cabbage
 
Cabbage all
 
pcalcao
 
CBG All!
So I have deployed my Django app on openshift
settings.py
Debug = False
But should I do ALLOWED_HOSTS = ['*']?
I read somewhere that it has some security issues
 
7:37 AM
Cbg
@d-coder do you know what that does?
 
cbg all
 
cbg
 
using selenium and chrome drive I could able to scrap content from web page, but when I used phantomjs with my python code it could not scrap it
any idea for phantomjs with python?
 
@JonClements do you work from home, generally?
 
8:10 AM
Morning all. Cabbage, indeed
 
cbg @JRichard
Quite a "fresh" morning... or maybe I shouldn't have left the window open...
 
Cabbage!
 
Yeah, it's "nippy" up here too
Cbg @poke
 
cbg @poke
 
Over the weekend my python ' score' briefly over took Java. A sign of things to come, maybe. Probably testament to the nice atmosphere in this chat room.
 
8:27 AM
@JRichard but only briefly? :p
 
I still answer on a bit. Although it's perhaps trying that my highly rated answers there are mainly trivial repeat question fests.
*trying = telling
 
cbg all
 
8:43 AM
cbg @Paolo - potato?
 
@jon bananas
 
good to hear :)
 
@JonClements that's cool
One dream I haven't managed yet is working from home :)
 
@RobertGrant it could easily be a nightmare.... :D
 
Yeah true
Hard to know what the ideal setup is
I'm erring more on the side of "commuting via one train that has wifi, where my commute counts as parts of my work hours because I can do work while I'm on it"
Not that I have that, but that does feel close to an ideal situation
 
8:48 AM
yeah if the commute time is enough... :)
 
Yeah like 45 mins would probably be ideal
Enough time to do admin in the morning and finish off a task in the evening
The only thing is if there's a meeting that occurs first thing, like a daily standup, then it wouldn't work
 
well.. that will be the first thing even if you work during commute time. If you work or if you don't, that's the first thing in office. I don't think that would be a problem.
 
When you say "daily standard" up... I have an image of BoggyG doing a rap to start the morning :)
 
MynameisBobbyGandImheretosay
@PaoloCasciello you mean it would still work if I left earlier? True
 
@RobertGrant Hopefully do some Python and not Java today... Python's a language - it ain't a snake, but just live Java it has a brake - word up
 
8:55 AM
drops Java MICro Edition
 
9:09 AM
cbg
 
cbg @wonderb0lt
 
Cabbage!
Did not recognize you, @JonClements. What happened to you, ma... dog? :-)
 
@Fenikso well... still a dog... felt like a change after 2 years :)
 
So what was going on recently? I was too busy to show up a few last months. I have figured that Martijn become a Moderator or something along the lines.
 
@Fenikso yup - he absolutely aced the elections :)
@Fenikso so you been work busy/life busy?
 
9:19 AM
So it is the time to be able to answer some Python questions before ho does? :-P
Both-busy.
 
@Fenikso well... since he never appear to sleep... his activity hasn't dropped massively :p
But yeah... definitely more room to get answers in now! \o/
 
My second daughter is killing my sleep. And I am also changing jobs. I got a Python job by accident :-).
 
Sounds like a good accident to me :p
 
@JonClements the job, or the daughter? Because, you know, that's TMI :)
 
Hopefully. Looks like it so far, but I am not judging the jump, before I am on the other side of the rift.
 
9:22 AM
@Robert I was referring to the job... but yeah.... I see how that could be amusingly mis-construed :)
Tank! Load the jump program! :)
 
@RobertGrant You got me to LOL. Literally.
 
0
Q: Multiprocessing a python script

bernlimI learnt about the multiprocessing tool in python: https://docs.python.org/2/library/multiprocessing.html. Say I have a python program which is complicated and fleshed out, but it does not use up all my cores when running. So it uses 100% of one core and takes forever to complete. It is hard for...

I wish there was a "more magic" switch of parallel programming, too.
 
So, anyone has a good resource for someone stuck in Windows Python programming world for a decade, switching to Linux Python programming?
 
:)
Is it that different?
 
@wonderb0lt what makes you think there isn't? Do you have the robe and the necessary equipment and sacrifice for the ritual?
 
9:24 AM
@Fenikso "C:\" -> "/" - done
 
@wonderb0lt functional stuff I guess could be more magically converted
 
@Fenikso just don't use anything solely marked as "Supported on Windows"... :)
 
@JonClements Wh... what's the sacrifice?
 
Seems like and easy transition then :-D.
 
@wonderb0lt ahh... that can't be told until the initiation is passed...
 
9:26 AM
And also PIP should work like for maybe most of the libraries?
 
Yeah for all of them I think
It's Windows that's the 2nd-class citizen for libs, from what I've seen
 
@Fenikso mostly it works smoother for libraries that require compilation as it's much easier if your linux system has a lot of dev tools and libraries already on it :)
 
@wonderb0lt i imagine the next question 'heeeeelp my wonderful code is eating every resource of the system! heeeeelp is there a magic "use the right amount of rosources" switch?'
@Fenikso in win i heard conda is a good alternative to pip... but i don't use win..
 
@JonClements Can I still do the ritual if I want to use my powers for evil?
 
@wonderb0lt oo... that may have dire consequences for the fate of the multi-verses....
 
9:33 AM
@JonClements Don't worry, I don't intend to bring on the end of the world. I swear!
 
You'd better not - you'd have hefty competition opposition :)
 
@JonClements Eh I just want it for some time travel. i.e.
timeTravel(multiprocessing(myscript.py))
 
Cabbage
 
cbg
 
cbg @IntrepidBrit @vaultah
 
9:44 AM
cbg fellas
 
I love my work. Been shouted at twice for almost causing fatal accidents
xD
(bit of an exaggeration, but there was bloody murder being levelled my way)
 
@AnttiHaapala cool - have you tried aiopyramid yet?
 
@IntrepidBrit For almost causing fatal accidents - you're obviously not trying hard enough - I'm very disappointed
 
Yeah as a creator of deniable assassination tools, you suck
 
9:48 AM
Until we hear news of fatalities somewhere in a Scottish office... we have nothing to say to you! <g>
 
o0
I... I'm sorry masters. I'll never make the dark council at this rate
 
Umm... I don't know what you're talking about there? :)
 
Yeah, what...dark council?
 
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Q: Str implemented in class not used

varantirLet us assume I have a class which implements the str() function. When I now put an object of this class into a dictionary and use str() of the dictionary, it does not use this function! What did I do wrong? class test(object): def __str__(self): return("I am a dork") a = test() prin...

Is "I am a dork" considered inappropriate?
 
The one where the significant owl hoots in the night
 
10:07 AM
The Significant Owl Hoots In The Night - sounds like a passphrase of some sort :)
 
You know, you could be right there...
 
posts new SO question "Hello I'm a Python noob. I've used delorean and called delorean.Delorean().last_year(9) but I seem to still be stuck in the present. PLEASE HELP URGENTLY"
 
May be actually fun to do something like that :).
Write it up in complete serious matter, complete with code example and all the stuff.
 
"If anything, time is moving forward"
 
10:20 AM
@wonderb0lt you'd have to sneak in "Marty" and "Doc" in there somewhere
 
"Hello my name is Marty and I'm a Python beginner. I've read the Delorean Doc and then tried to call ..."
 
Sweet :p
 
I wish I would do something interesting that actually warrants asking something on SO sometimes... :(
 
Okay - here's an odd question (might even be worth writing up as an SO question)
Using a virtual environment for my python code. All is good and working
 
Hey , I got a question about trying to calculate O(n) of my program.
I got a task in a course to solve a logic gate circuit.
Given two files , one that contains the nodes of the circuit [example : X_d1 in1 c1_net out_1 NAND, in general : name_of_node inputsname[mightbeonly1 mightbe 2],outputname ,Logic Command]
and one that contains the EXTERNAL INPUTS : 1st line their name , 2nd ~ to the end of the file values.
anyway I have build a program and my friend build a program and we compared.
we were given 4 differnt circuits in which one is very basic contains about only 8 LOGIC GATES and the 4
 
10:28 AM
I have now added a library downloaded from github and added it to my python path. However, it calls some code that has a shebang/hashbang which directs to /usr/bin/python3 (outside of the env), and as such - can't use a library that has been installed via pip. Now, I could go through the code and manually edit all the instances, but there has to be a better way.
@maor You could always try to time your files and plot them. Especially if you run a large number of iterations, that would help you calculate your big O function.
 
@Intrepid surely running it via the Python interpreter directly will stop that behaviour?
 
@maor I do not think O(n) is about comparing algorithms in therms of better and worse O(n). It either is O(n) or is not and it is something worse. It is more a question about if it scales linearly or not.
 
I timed each file run and overall run this way I knew hom much time it takes .
what do you mean by plotting it?
 
Take input where n=10, n=20, n=30, n=40, n=50... Draw a graph of time vs n. Is it a line?
 
Umm... not getting as many emails as I do for a Monday - in fact - nada since Saturday - that's weird... not even as much in the spam folder either... not sure if this is a good thing and it's a quiet day or I'm missing stuff...
 
10:35 AM
@JonClements I would have thought so. But apparently not! I've double checked that my venv has the required libraries (copied the code from the shebang'd file to make sure) and it imports happily
 
@Fenikso I didn't mean it in the way of O(n) , but you are right I haven't wrote it clear enough.
If by multiplying the database X10 mine grow only X3 than mine is supposed to be O(logn) but I am not sure how can i increase the database more.
might be that only need to increase the amount of inputs vector but might also be that the circuit itself need to be increased aswell I am not sure but if it is the later then I can't created such a file myself
 
@maor Depends what is "n" for you.
@maor Also you can guess algorithm complexity by looking at design.
 
Urgh. That's bad practice. Might have to propose a change to their library. They catch the ImportError and throw a new one with a different message.
 
Like, does it have nested loops? Does it have only simple loops? Do some loops have breaks? Etc.
 
@JonClements Want me to send you some emails to check it's working. If you want to, fire me an encrypted message with keybase.io (of your email)
 
10:38 AM
it splits to 2 things :
 
Yay keybase \o/
 
@IntrepidBrit thanks... I've got an email I can use to send to myself from :)
 
@maor "If by multiplying the database X10 mine grow only X3 " is not true. It still may grow linearly. O(2n) = O(5n) = O(n).
 
1st of all I am sure I couldn't build something that will be simple enough to solve the circuit in O(n).
I tried to build it graph a like.
1st) creation of the circuit : I use 4 dictionary : a.external inputs , b.external outputs,c.internal output,d.dictonary of dictionarys key of the 1st is the node name and the value is dict the is keys are :inputs ,output , action and the value is the name.

2) solving the circuit:
i tried to run from an output the inputs[graph speaking going from the top to the root] .i thought this way is better because for each given inputs vec i need to calculate a f
 
@Ffisegydd keybase ftdub
 
10:44 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Please let me know if you are free. We can discuss that Q.allSettled post
 
i know there must be a way to solve the circuit , in my way, and it would be faster maybe even a lot faster but I just can figure it out.
I think that 4 dictionary might be to much but I couldn't solve it with less
 
Hi guys, correct me if im wrong, when im executing python code, interpretator is checking if <name>.pyc exists in the same directory or not before executing the main script, if it's not exist then python compiles them for the next run... correct?
 
11:12 AM
Or if the source .py has been modified since the .pyc was creating - yes
 
@JonClements larl. I spent the time forking their repo, setting up a ticket and the branching. Fixed the problem and it's just a regular import error. Even though they catch an exception and raise a new one, should I still push my change even if it doesn't fix anything?
(It's just better practice than what they've implemented)
 
Does it fix it or not?
 
It doesn't fix my problem (and doesn't reveal any more information to help me debug the problem)
 
Umm... it's unlikely to be accepted then I guess... just an issue should be enough and let them fix it properly? (if they can be bothered/even think it's an issue etc...)
 
Aye - guess so. Just feeling like a bit of a lemon by getting everything set up only to find out it was probably a waste of everyone's time
xD
 
11:24 AM
But how'd you have discovered that without the work? :)
 
But just doing it and going: "oh."
haha
 
@Intrepid look on the bright side - it hasn't been your lifes work for 70 years, and then you've realised it's impossible when for the last few years you were convinced you were close or something :)
 
That's true.
 
morning everyone
 
cbg(corvid)
 
11:39 AM
Anyone else think we might need to find a canonical question / answer for lexicographic ordering of strings (particularly strings containing numbers)? I seem to have explained it several times in python questions...
Or indeed - does one exist and I've just been too slow to find it?
 
@JRichard I'm sure I've seen a couple
 
Does nidaba try to detect if a question is canonical, or should be?
 
That would be a nice idea
 
At least on javascript questions, there's always ones with tons of stars and upvotes that tend to be "canonical", as in you google them and they're the first result right off the bat
 
(Sorry, I seem to be help vampiring today - just trying to do things properly) -> If there's a system package that needs to be installed (specifically i2c-tools), what's the best way of specifying this needs to be installed for a requirements.txt
Trying to make this repository venv friendly
 
11:46 AM
@corvid There's that, but it should also really detect simplicity of the question (i.e. one concept) and the quality of the answers.
 
@corvid @JRichardSnape the whole "would like to do" is on sopython.com/pages/nidaba :)
 
@JRichardSnape that's true, the questions are usually one liners like "how do I select by a data attribute?"
 
If it could do that, it would be super useful. I think the lexicographic one is a bit hard, because almost no-one says "Why is my list sorted lexicographically". They always say something like. "Why has pandas scrambled my eggs dataframe", or "why is the pandas sorting in a wierd order", or "python's sort is broken" or something else equally uninformative and unlikely
</rant>
 
"python's sort order is broken", weird when people say that... do people automatically assume the language is broken rather than the code?
 
I guess "Finding interesting, hidden gems and shining a spotlight on them" could be interpreted as / expanded to finding potential canonical questions
@corvid Exactly. I do wonder that. Especially when people then become insistent. "No, no, I understand your detailed explanation of why it's happening, but in my case, the language is broken, see <insert repeated misunderstanding here>"
I'm grumpy today. I don't know why really
 
11:54 AM
Does python use function scope?
What is the innermost scope?
 
I think it does usually. You can usually use dis to get a good idea of scope.
 
I checked that it's not within if statements, or while loops
 
cbg @JanDvorak
 
cbg
 
any of you guys use celery before to perform tasks on a flask application?
 
12:02 PM
Every time when an OP says "I have tried every possible approach", they include none of them in their post. And when I say "let's see just one of them", they never reply.
 
@Kevin well obviously they're extremely exhausted at having tried every possible approach... So, gone for a long lay down...
 
You've seen through their villainous lies.
 
every possible approach = asking on stack overflow
 
I was tempted to comment on one today saying "no, you didn't try every possible approach, because one of them would have worked"
 
Well - that would be a true fact...
 
12:09 PM
cabbage @Kevin. I think you should write a long diatribe on Turing completeness and how it would relate to trying every possible approach. Have it ready to paste into any such provoking situations
 
@Kevin out of curiosity, which question was this?
 
@afonsomatos The long answer is, see Naming and Binding. The short answer is, the smallest enclosing module or class definition or function body (usually the third one)
ifs and whiles and fors don't have separate scopes. This is occasionally handy, if you want to do if whatever: entirely_new_variable = 23 and have it be visible later
 
@Kevin thanks :)
 
What if I want an asynchronous closure that uses the value of a local variable?
 
One corner case to watch out for is, list comprehensions sometimes have their own scope. after [whatever for x in thing] evaluates, x is visible later on if you're using 2.7, but it's not visible if you're using 3.X.
 
12:16 PM
@Kevin nice catch
 
@JanDvorak lambdas and ordinary functions can access all the variables that were in scope when they were created, even if they're no longer in scope when you call them.
Ex.
def a():
    x = 23
    def b():
        print x
    return b
f = a()
f()
x is successfully closed upon by b, preventing it from being garbage-collected at the end of a
 
but by then they would have changed the values. If I make functions in a loop, I want them to refer to the iteration variable as it was when the function was created.
 
@JanDvorak Ah, the classic "making functions in a loop" problem.
 
I don't know much about tkinter but I am sure that that is possible
 
@Kevin @JanDvorak One of the gotchas that certainly got me
 
12:20 PM
The quick-n-dirty solution being, use a default variable in the parameters of your lambda.
funcs = []
for i in range(10):
    funcs.append(lambda: i*2)
print funcs[5]() #surprise! prints "18" and not "10"

funcs = []
for i in range(10):
    funcs.append(lambda i=i: i*2)
print funcs[5]() #=prints "10"
 
The javascript solution would be to have an immediately invoked function expression
Why does the default variable approach work? Are default values computed at the function creation time?
 
You can do that too, with funcs.append((lambda x: lambda: x*2)(i))
Yeah, default values are evaluated at function creation.
 
Then I like that approach. Thanks.
 
Which tends to bite people when they think they're created when the function executes, since it causes the default mutable argument problem.
 
Loving how the comment trail is developing on that question Kevin posted. "When I said i tried all approaches, I really meant just one that doesn't even attempt to do what I want"
 
12:24 PM
Sometimes I like to do def make_func(x): return lambda: x*2 outside of the loop and do funcs.append(make_func(i)) inside the loop. Makes it a little easier to read (YMMV)
 
cabbage yall
 
@JRichardSnape " im very new to python here is my code". Uh oh, am I about to eat my words? So much for "they never reply"
Although I'm currently getting away on a technicality because they didn't actually show any code, still.
 
Anybody have any experience with predictive modeling ?
 
The old "pressed enter in an attempt to make a multi-line comment, and it got submitted much to my surprise, and maybe now I'll just give up entirely" gambit
 
@Martin the "what if I do this... no, that's a bad idea" kind of algorithm?
 
12:27 PM
Sorta, yeah. I mean this is totally non-python related but I just need a point in the right direction
 
Interesting... my message on the starred list omits the final word, but does not have an ellipsis.
 
Like I have a spreadsheet of the last say 15 months for many metrics for a client of ours. In a Google Spreadsheet, I need to predict another 6-12 months within 5% accuracy
 
@Kevin Bug report. It's no good without the gambit on the end
 
balpha plz fix: ellipsis missing [urgent]
 
@Martin Depending on what the time series is, that can range anywhere from relatively easy to side-splittingly, laughably impossible.
 
12:31 PM
Hopefully I'm on the left side of that, but it feels impossible
It's month over month
 
He just needs to accurately predict the stock market for the next 180 days... No big deal...
 
indeed. If you can do that for stock exchange, you are golden.
 
I've seen reports on the stock market and it's all just squiggles. How hard could it be to write a squiggle generator?
 
Probably pretty easy if the squiggles aren't checked by anybody
 
Pfft this stuff is easy, guys
 
12:32 PM
accurate within 5%?
 
1) Be a bank
 
...and for the second time in about 3 days, I will reference Nicholas Taleb's black swan and posit that predicting the stock market, particularly that far out, is impossible
 
2) Buy low, sell high
 
Kids today are too busy with their Calls of Duty and MyCrafts, they can't take out 15 minutes of their day to become a multibillionaire.
 
@JanDvorak Yeah. Well actually each month can be off by more, but overall discrepancy average must be lower than 5%
 
12:33 PM
Good luck with that
 
:(
 
@Martin your problems, based on the fact you can't predict the future, are: 1) your data for today+2 is dependent on your data for today+1, so your errors compound, and 2) you can't predict new businesses being created
 
stupid thing keeps unsetting my values :\
 
Except I forgot you're not talking about the stock market
 
@RobertGrant New businesses aren't related lol. It's mostly traffic + revenue predictions
 
12:34 PM
Ah, quality market advice coming out from Robert ;) Don't forget the caveat "This information does not constitute financial advice..."
 
But yes, I see what you mean about errors compounding
 
I bet you can't predict whether my next utterance will be "1" or "-1" to any better than a 100% expected error no matter how many you'll have heard already
 
I'm thinking of taking the trend for the year, then adjusting it based on each month's difference from its last month. If I'm making sense
 
That assumes your user behaves roughly the same every year
 
@martin it makes sense and may even be a useful model. There are many many such models
 
12:35 PM
Which we are assuming, yeah
 
"Our revenue has gone up X units each month, therefore next month we will have N+X units" is reasonable, for especially stable businesses.
 
You don't want to get committed to a given accuracy, though
 
Woe to the pumpkin farmer that tries to predict November's sales from Sept and Oct, though.
 
@JRichardSnape You wouldn't happen to have any models off the top of your head that I could base this on, would you?
 
OTOH they can consistently utter "I don't have a wife" one year, "I am married" the next year and "I have two beautiful daughters" the next one.
 
12:37 PM
At that rate, by 2030 they'll have 30 daughters and 15 wives!
 
^ gotta catch them all
 
:-D
 
user559633
@Kevin Untrue, one could also have ugly daughters.
 
Are you using linear extrapolation from the end values? You clearly need to use quadratic extrapolation for the number of daughters.
 
@Martin I guess what I'm saying is, be very careful about it. Your proposed model is basically a linear model. They can work in some situations. I'm worried that any advice I give could be setting you up for a fall given your initial requirement statement
 
12:39 PM
The farmer across the way is having 2 sons per year, so it's going to be combinatorially exponential in two decades.
 
If all goes well, I should have -300 teeth when I reach my 200th birthday
 
Rabbits produce a litter of 8 babies every 6 months and they reach breeding age 6 months after that. I buy a rabbit today. How many rabbits will I have in 3 years' time?
 
Depends. Do you have a rabbit of the opposite gender already?
 
@JRichardSnape Yeah. I just gotta pay close attention to each year's month-by-month adjustment. If Jan tends to undersell the previous Dec by X%, I want about X% adjustment for the coming year
 
12:42 PM
And are you going to buy more rabbits?
 
@JanDvorak bah - too easy for this forum (I thought as much, but thought I'd dangle the bait anyway)
 
Also, are you only counting live rabbits, and will you feed them?
 
@Martin I never undersell. Sometimes I overbuy though.
 
@Martin I know a bit about predictive modelling (am late to the show though).
 
That's a nice and confusing answer to an interview question: "Aren't you overselling yourself?" "No, I think you're underbuying me."
Or, for certain jobs, "No! I will never be over selling!" Launch into 15 minute tirade about how selling is amazing
 
12:47 PM
@JRichard at least it's slightly better than: "the number of eggs in a baskets doubles every second for a minute. How long does it take the basket to contain 50% of the total eggs it will contain?"
 
..59s?
 
I know that with lillies on a pond
 
same, but for algae in a pond
 
I'm sensing a pond bias here...
 
I have a pro-pond agenda.
 
12:49 PM
Wants to play James Pond now
 
I want a pond in every garage, no matter how inconvenient!
 
@Robert wow... I remember that... the lobster or crab thing... platform game?
 
I have to try pondage sometimes
 
I'm pondering a response to this conversation now.
 
12:51 PM
wait, "James Pond" is an actual thing???
 
The question remains off-topic as it is not about a specific problem and it is too broad. Why was it re-opened? — Kitler 1 hour ago
 
@JanDvorak yes - it was an actual computer game ::)
 
wonders whether to resPOND
 
@vaultah actually, the answer is a very simple and stern "yes"
 
W'ter you all doing? I ain't laking it :(
(that'll probably work in some northern accent :p)
 
12:54 PM
@Martin The thing is, that's not all you have to pay attention to (month-month variation). A simple example: Say your number is weather dependent. You predict the next six months, but we have a dreadful August. You've committed to average 5% accuracy, but given August's weather there's no way you can make that over the 6 months. This is all too common when predicting financial (and other) time series
 
Questions of the form "Is there a way to..." can't be answered, because "Yes." is eleven characters too short to be submitted.
Therefore, close all "Is there a way to..." questions.
 
@JRichard invent time travel - problem solved
 
You might look at giving a prediction and a confidence interval, for instance
 
@JRichardSnape I can have some pretty far off predictions, as long as the average of all of them brings it down to around ~5%
 
@Kevin I'd very much support that
 
12:55 PM
@JanDvorak well, given the first version of the question, the OP won't be happy getting just "Yes"
 
But yeah, I'm not sure how easy this will be
 
@Martin I understand, but I'm saying that unless you understand your series very well - even that is a very hard target potentially.
 
(I did cv)
 
I'm less than confident about this task to be honest. We'll see where it goes
 
what module can I use for client certificate authentication? I am building a webservice with flask, but it seems like there is no built in feature for ssl which is not deprecated at the moment
 
12:56 PM
Some time series are relatively easy. For instance, for a particle travelling in space, if I know its position and velocity now, I can predict where it will be in 6 months with a high degree of accuracy. With sales figures not.
 
actually, i guess the answer is "no". The union of two intervals is not an interval.
 
It's at 27% discrepancy. If I can bring that to half then it would be nice
 
@JRichardSnape only if you also know the gravity field in that area
 
@JRichardSnape Just use "The Enron Technique" - just make sure you've got a good place to hide (maybe not on Earth for instance)...
 
@JanDvorak :) I knew using that example in here was a bad idea. specially with @Ffisegydd lurking too.
One could fairly ask, why did you use it then? ruminates
 
12:58 PM
SCIENCE.
 
TENNIS BALLS!
 
Why not both?
 
CHAINSAWS!
I think it is time I had lunch.
 
frozen orbits are a good choice, or slightly geosynchronous orbit (not at GEO, so that you don't intersect another orbit by accident).
 
@Martijn are they safe to play fetch with though? :p
 

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