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12:33 AM
Does anyone participate in any good forums these days?
 
Good morning
I mean cbg
God, I've been away for so long
 
1:41 AM
cbg?
 
1:57 AM
cbg
 
 
2 hours later…
4:17 AM
Cbg
 
4:51 AM
cbg
 
5:08 AM
cbg
 
hi all
 
no one should learn C++ :D
 
quick, quick question
if i use channelling via paramiko for a website, if the user X's out of the browser, will that close the connection automatically?
there's no connection pooling or anything like that
 
depends...
 
what would it depend on?
 
5:12 AM
afaik paramiko itself does not do anything with "websites"
the connection would generally be closed whenever you drop references to the connection, or the remote end would be closed...
but whether "user X's out of the browser" will cause any of these, is not something that can be deduced from the question
 
right that's where my concern is too
if i explicitly close and reopen the connection and channel on every command the user sends, the site is reeeeeeaaaaallllly slow
so i want to keep it open for as long as possible, and i can keep the connection open as long as the user is on the sight, but i have to close it at least shortly after they X out
site*
 
5:33 AM
CBG!
 
How to add textual watermarking to excel sheets ?
PIL ?
I have been looking around for a while and found plenty modules to add watermarking for images.
 
sorry I do not understand :D
you just write text in some cell?
 
No
 
like, xlrd and xlwt or the other ones for the xlsx format?
or?
you mean digital watermark
 
5:38 AM
Have you looked into some confidential files.. Which are marked "CONFIDENTIAL" from bottom left to top right corner of the sheets ?
:P
 
yeah,
@d-coder the thing is, image watermarking means 2 things:
either you can put a silly image like that
 
I need something like that
 
or you can put a hidden image in there that is not visible at all but still recoverable even after JPEG compression
I guess the easiest would be to have that as a template
and then fill in that template with some lib that does not remove the feature
I am not sure how to do it in Python, in Java one could use the Apache POI library
 
I like the image thing you mentioned.
@AnttiHaapala: Thanks. I will try with image and will let you know
 
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Q: using regex for text matching a string

it adsdI have a text file like:- car - superb company - skoda simply clever manufactured - 1990 car - sclass company - mercedes the best or nothing manufactured - 1990 car - rapid company - skoda simply clever manufactured - 1990 If user raw_inputs the company name'skoda',then it must provide me...

"searched the entire SO but didn't find a matching problem..."
 
6:04 AM
:)
 
6:39 AM
What I'm trying to do is feasible ? Have waterwark on Excel sheet ?
 
you mean watermark?
 
Yes
 
yea, should be able to
 
Okay. Any modules I have ?
 
6:57 AM
modules? it should be in page setup, print settings
 
I need to do watermarking using python. I'm trying to automate the process
 
I would be surprised if python modules support it
 
I have been searching it but I couldn't find one
I found for watermarking images ..PIL.. but not excel sheets
 
cbg
 
7:04 AM
Cbg
 
oh ok. I thought it was just an excel question
 
Purely Python :)
 
Convert excel document to pdf, put watermark on it using pyPdf
 
Yeah. I will try that.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:19 AM
cbg
 
Yo
 
8:36 AM
my boss sets manually the PYTHONPATH in all our projects. I tend to use virtualenvwrapper and always install the project before testing. While his approach "works" like he says, it works on his development machine, and it is hard to solve problems when they arise. How do I convince him that setting the PYTHONPATH is ... is it bad? Should I even bother?
 
Virtualenvs are definitely the best solution. Hands down.
 
Ffisegydd, I totally agree with you but with this argument I can't win him over.
 
9:04 AM
Because it makes it hard to solve problems when they arise :)
It seems such an obvious thing to take advantage of that maybe you should be his boss :)
 
Robert, thanks for the compliment, I do try not to follow anti-pattern, but my boss is quite stubborn here. I told him "PYTHONPATH is there for using it in exceptional cases". The thing is I really want to start working with the whole python eco-system. I mean using tox, pybuilder etc, and they all integrate so nicely with virtualenv, and so badly too with PYTHONPATH manually...
besides, the problem never arise on his computer, remember, for him it works...
 
9:20 AM
@Oz123 so what exactly is your current work around? You have several different Python installations and for each project your boss modifies PYTHONPATH to point to the correct one?
 
Cabbage!
@Ffisegydd Pineapples on finishing your thesis!
 
@poke Ta. Gonna go get it printed today.
 
@Ffisegydd, personally I am using tox and virtualenvwrapper. I also try to understand how to use PyCharm for that. My boss just puts PYTHONPATH in his project setting and his bashrc
he does not use multiple python versions, I do
 
What happens if you need to use multiple versions of the same packages for different projects?
 
that is a good point, my boss will answer: we don't do that :-(
 
9:28 AM
Can he absolutely positively guarantee it'll never happen in the future? (Answer: no, no he can't)
 
What happens if his machine breaks/is stolen?
I assume you use source control?
 
@Oz123 if you wait a few more hours, some more intelligent knowledgeable people will get on who will probably be able to answer you with a multitude of reasons.
 
How easy is it to get his environment up and running again compared to just check out, create venv, and pip install from a reqs file
 
@Robert, for every project we have (and we have a few of them ...) I need to set the python path in PyCharm (by clicking multiple menus) and in bashrc, in need to source his pseudo "venv" scripts. He basically wrote something like venv. Instead of doing source venv-name/bin/activate he has his own aliases. If works on a project called marketvalue he will have an alias market value in his bashrc, which sets the path to the location on his drive were marketvalue is cloned from git
 
What about replacing everything with venv stuff and aliasing his scripts to the venv activates?
 
9:37 AM
I could try that, but then he will have to do that, no ? If he has to make an effort, he is going to resent it, i suspect.
I need first to convince him it is worth investing his time in it
 
Maybe do that by showing some cool tech that you can use with venv
Good luck :)
 
Got a new case for my phone. Bought the previous one for 50$ and it turned out to be utter crap...
 
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+1 for red squiggly box.
 
9:53 AM
There's also a subliminal advert for sopython in the screnshots :-)
 
You crafty son-of-a-tomato.
 
@ZeroPiraeus You should have unpinned it though :P
 
But, but ... then it wouldn't be subliminal ...
 
We need superliminal messaging.
 
10:10 AM
YOU! JOIN THE NAVY!
 
cbg
I was just pleasantly surprised by an accept & up-vote on an answer I submitted to U&L over 4 months ago!
 
10:30 AM
office cbg
 
Pew pew
 
Egregious gimme teh codez question (just like OP's other question, which they didn't imporve on prompting)
 
10:53 AM
I'm almost tempted to ask the OP of this if they're using WAV files, but I get a bad garlicky feeling...
 
@PM2Ring that API looks quite fun to play with :)
 
@PM2Ring "I found the following code : ..." <copy paste klaxon sounds>...
 
I'm going to say too broad
The actual problem is that they need to address inserting new amounts of time into the audio, whereas the linked stuff just talks about how to replace samples within the audio
 
@RobertGrant I didn't look at the OP's link, but I think that API works by magic. :)
 
Yeah it makes me want to go into sound programming
 
11:03 AM
To be honest, if you're going to copy and paste python code onto a programming site, learning to copy : and whitespace would be a start...
 
@RobertGrant :) Ok. I just posted a comment requesting clarification. If we don't get a response in 10 minutes, I reckon we should seriously consider CV-ing as too broad.
 
Damn this is a tricky pandas problem.
 
@PM2Ring @RobertGrant I would agree. I don't think they're going to be able to clarify realistically - they're miles away from understanding what they need even to get that code running...
tricky pandas problem
 
I wish itertools.count had a reset method D:
I can feel that I'm getting close >_<
The solution is just out of the corner of my eye.
Ashwini got a solution -_-
 
11:31 AM
Hey, any python package exist to identify whether input sentences or subsentence is "Interrogative" sentence ?
 
Is there? IS THERE!?
Sorry.
 
I looked at pylinkgrammar package, but fails in mutliple scenario
@RobertGrant I checked pylinkgrammar which parse the sentence and provides clue, but needs better alternative
 
@nlper ??????
 
@JRichardSnape Trying to identify whether input sentence is "Interrogative" or not.
 
@nlper Sorry - was a (poor) attempt at a joke - i.e. "?" will indicate if a sentence is interrogative. Not an expert, I'm afraid.
I'm in a silly mood today. Should probably do some work.
 
11:39 AM
adds @DSM's full name to his secret journal of knowledge on the room regulars (don't worry, I remember you once requesting Jon not to divulge your name that he got from an email, I will respect this and not divulge it either, but I can let you know how I found it out if you want :P)
 
@JRichardSnape Hahaha
 
11:56 AM
@Ffisegydd found his real name, wasn't that hard :p
 
Shush.
 
Umm, got the middle name wrong
 
Data Science Maven, right?
 
@Kevin I voted typographical error :)
 
12:12 PM
I think they're more unbelievably lazy than troll (by the way, just changing all 3s to 4s isn't enough - they'll need a w to go with their x, y and z).
 
Oh good, I'm glad it's not so simple as replacing 3 with 4.
That restores my faith in humanity somewhat. It's reasonable that OP might have tried using 4s instead of 3s, got a tuple unpacking error, and was unable to continue.
 
I feel bad now
 
yeah ive tried it — Hearth Strike 2 mins ago
Ok, leaning back towards troll again. Surely a reasonable person would say "yeah ive tried it, [and it didn't work because I got an error, which is...]"
OP is being tight-lipped to the point of satire
Hmm, or maybe he's being intentionally curt with me because my initial message was snarky.
Just goes to show how snark is fun but not constructive.
 
Given their other questions, I think it's a case of iterative software development by SO question.
 
@Kevin I like this Joycian stream-of-consciousness thing you have going on
 
12:21 PM
I kind of want OP to say "I did consider adding another variable to for x,y,z in grid:, but that's impossible because z is the last letter!"
5
 
Kevin has a userscript to replace all our avatars with rubber ducks.
 
Tch. Everyone knows that zz follows z.
 
Unicode committee, please provide support for yuzz, wum, et al
@RobertGrant Just trying to provide the authentic Kevin experience as best as I can :-)
 
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@Kevin Are you going to put them out of their misery and reveal the possibility of variable names beyond x,y,z?
 
12:27 PM
I think they'll grow more as a person if they struggle to discover the answer themselves.
 
Aw, someone answered it ...
 
Yes, with code that doesn't parse
 
OOf, that's quite a solution
 
Ah, he edited it. Into different code that doesn't parse.
 
12:30 PM
I use "solution" in its widest sense, obviously
 
Oh, well that's okay then ... I think we can rely on OP not to want to fix the code for themselves.
 
As in, not a solution.
 
how does one actually test oauth packages?
 
sorry, tab confusion.
 
12:44 PM
I'm proud of you :-)
 
@corvid well done :)
 
BIG IMPORTANT NOTE ...I've never been so proud ;_;
 
there's credit to the python room for helping out at the bottom too
 
I saw :)
 
@Ffisegydd took me a long time to get that to work, and the default error message is uninformative. And debugging Javascript? Bleh
especially serverside javascript
 
12:48 PM
> Authenticate users with battle.net on your site. Allows you to
 
@corvid typo: "Feature feature plans" (penultimate subhead) should be "Future feature plans", I imagine?
 
Oh, the suspense!
I simply must know what it allows me to do.
Allows you to fly? Allows you to commit one crime without being prosecuted?
 
It's Yodaese: "Authenticate users with battle.net on your site, allows you to".
 
It's yodae... - damnit...
 
@corvid: first feedback then: Capitalise the O in Overflow. :-P
 
12:51 PM
I was trying to figure out the best way to manage the objects, fields, etc so I wasn't sure entirely what it would do when completely finished :\
 
1:01 PM
 
wtf?
 
Chrome does something to avatars
 
My Chrome doesn't :/
 
mine neither
 
Hmm
 
1:04 PM
Try without addons (can do that using Incognito mode usually)
 
@Kevin The for j in range(1): is cute. He's generating a color name, but not actually using it. I suppose I could post a comment...
 
Good eye. I didn't notice that the return value was ignored.
 
I got my dog at work :3 this job is awesome
 
@corvid Where do you work, corvid?
 
1:11 PM
@Bonifacio2 small place in Boston
 
Can anyone see another possible intention than this?
I think the last items in your "before" and "after" lists should actually be [z, [4]] and [4, [y,z]], for your question to make sense ... — Zero Piraeus 1 min ago
 
@corvid nice. :)
 
Woo, 12k! (okay, so it's not as impressive as Antti's 20k, but still ...)
 
@MartijnPieters :D Maybe he got caught in infinite recursion when googling "games console emulator python api", otherwise, the second result would look to be what OP is after.
 
user559633
1:19 PM
@ZeroPiraeus congrats
 
@JRichardSnape which goes to show they didn't even do their own research.
 
I may have a shot at hitting mortarboard on Meta.SE today.
 
Cleared the cache
 
Maybe...
@vaultah Yet I am still looking weird. Did you try loading individual avatars?
 
user559633
1:27 PM
what's a fair interview question for someone with 1 year of python experience?
 
@tristan what's your favourite colour?
 
user559633
blue, red no ARRRAGH
 
@MartijnPieters They look okay in profile pages. I tried switching the network, they still look weird.
 
Though my Chrome got an update an hour ago, haven't had this issue before
 
1:29 PM
@tristan (I think I've suggested this to you before but I'll re-iterate it as I think it's a good idea) ask them whether they use virtualenv/how they do projects/source control/whatever.
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd yeah :) i ask periodically because i've been interviewing/reading a lot of resumes lately
 
I suppose ask whether they understand things like list/set/dict comps, generators, and little tricks like that. Might tell you whether they actually "code Python" or whether they just "code FORTRAN in Python".
 
user559633
Yeah, I do a list slicing, ask about how they would store entries of:
- a phone book
- the colors of gumballs as they come out of a gumball machine
- people you've seen before at a party
 
@tristan "Tell me about the nastiest, hackiest, most evil piece of production code you ever wrote".
 
Get them to compose a question for SO, and reject them if it gets closed for any reason. >:-)
 
1:33 PM
Heh, "Write me a list comprehension that is more than three lines long."
If they refuse to write the LC, hire them, if they attempt it, kick them out.
 
Ask something about the recent release(s) of Python
 
Ooh, you hit my sore spot. I know nothing about recent releases of Python.
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd heh! i'd try it -- in an interview i did a 3 or 4 nested list comp because someone said "python can't do it"
 
"What are the major differences between 2.x and 3.x and can you code in both reasonable well?"
 
Unless you accept "uh, asyncio?" with rising pitch a full and acceptable answer
 
user559633
1:34 PM
@ZeroPiraeus sometimes good, but it favors people that have worked in areas where that stuff is allowed or they'd even realize it
 
user559633
@Kevin lols yes
 
user559633
@Kevin i'd accept more things are magically generators, unicode saw hugely increased support, print is now a function, and "lol i know i should be using it but i'm not"
 
I can answer "what's new in 3.X?" pretty well, but not "what's new in 3.4 specifically?"
 
user559633
yeah, that's generally fine i think
 
user559633
i make a strong point not to ask trivia unless the person was rude to me
 
1:40 PM
"Do you object to me saying 'That's what she said" every time you use a sentence that includes the word 'Python'?"
 
user559633
I'd probably ask you if I should call someone
 
Battery dies, rbrb :(
 
Actually, while we're discussing CVs and such, I have a new copy of my CV/cover letter which I'd appreciate any feedback on. I will put it on Dropbox toot sweet.
 
My CV draws admiring glances, but only for the presentation. When people read it they throw up.
@Ffisegydd I would but the corporates block me :(
Mail me it?
 
@tristan maybe ask them if they've ever come across a scenario where Python wasn't the appropriate tool for the job, and what they used instead in that case. Will give you an idea if they're some die-hard fanatic that only uses Python, even when it's not the best choice.
@RobertGrant ta chuck.
 
user559633
1:44 PM
"After 8 years studying physics at university, I am now looking for
a data analytics position." choked on coffee
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd awesome.
 
user559633
i know i'd complimented the room as a whole before, but seriously, what a great group of people
 
choked on coffee bad or chocked on coffee good?
 
user559633
haha surprised
 
user559633
"after working on my PhD for 8 years, researching very specific topics that have yet to be well understood, i want to draw pretty charts using d3"
 
1:46 PM
It's the dream.
 
@vaultah: You can right-click images and open them in a new tab.
My small avatar image is gravatar.com/avatar/… for example.
 
Good cover letter
 
user559633
have a good day everyone!
 
You could get rid of "the field of" in "I find the field of data...fascinating", but not a big deal obviously
@tristan cheers sir
 
What you've got to understand is that the alternative, staying in academia, is something like "After 8 years at university studying Physics I want to stay in academia and work like a dog for the next 6-8 years , while moving every 2 years to a different part of the country to get a new job, in the hopes that I'll be able to get a lecturer position (bottom of the ladder) to actually start my career properly (if by properly you mean getting roughly the same money while doing a lot more work)"
 
1:49 PM
Well, data science is going to be big. I think you've chosen a good and interesting field
 
@tristan email ping
 
user559633
[i wasn't being critical, i think you'll do amazing at whatever you pursue and i sincerely doubt that the time spent wondering wasn't beneficial @Ffisegydd]
 
user559633
@ZeroPiraeus got it -- i'll see what i can do in that regard later today
 
Cool :-)
 
user559633
thatwouldbeamazing~~~*
 
1:50 PM
@Ffisegydd you say you're an expert in project management. Are you happy to justify that one?
 
user559633
okay, have to run cheers
 
(I just don't know what you've done, so I thought I'd check)
 
I assume that's his excuse to start talking about Nibada :-)
"I managed the crap out of that project"
 
@Robert yes. I've managed several experimental projects over the course of my PhD, managing both myself and other PhD students doing complicated (and expensive) work. Not even to mention Nidaba :P
 
Damn! I transposed the d and b. I had a 50% chance of getting it right.
 
1:52 PM
Fair enough :) They might ask you things like what's the budget of the biggest project you've managed, that sort of thing
 
About £250,000 I think.
 
Sounds good.
Looks like a very persuasive CV to me.
Wheee
 
I understand what you meant :P
 
I jazzed mine up by using that skinny Apple font, which looks quite nice
 
I was tempted to learn Scala the other day.
I wasn't sure whether I needed to know Java to make full use of it though.
 
1:55 PM
Actually yours probably looks nicer than mine anyway
Now I look at it
But I've already sent it to you :)
@Ffisegydd Java is easier than Python conceptually; I wouldn't worry about learning it. But also, you shouldn't need to know it to learn Scala from what I remember.
 
Hmm okay. Apache Spark which is the new magical data analytics software that does all the things and is sexy uses Scala and Python, but it only supports 2.x with Python and apparently Python is considered a bit of a 2nd class citizen
 
Actually mine looks much nicer full screen in Adobe or whatever
I mean, compared to when it's in gmail's preview thing
 
I just realised that very soon I'm going to lose my UoB email address ;-;
 
Should get an alumni one
 
@Ffisegydd You should have thought of that before jumping off the PhD cliff by actually completing a thesis.
Really, who does that anyway?!
¯(°_o)/¯
 
2:14 PM
:-)
 
DSM
Morning cabbage for all.
 
Cbg DSM
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: well, for many people here, it's no harder than git log | grep in the right directory. :-) And now you probably see that I come by my love of plaid honestly.. I'm kind of impressed if you got the S though, the only place that comes to mind for that one is my own "submitted in fulfilment of" page..
 
I didn't get the S. And I didn't find a picture or anything. I found a Google groups post on pandas that you'd signed :P I then proceeded to find some of your papers. Dude, some of your graphs looked like a toddler had taken a crayon to the page.
So many squiggles.
 
2:25 PM
And drool
 
I saw DSM's last name in hover for spoilers, but I have since forgotten it, to protect myself from the forbidden knowledge.
 
Yeah I'd seen it in the spoiler and that's how I put two and two together.
 
DSM
@Ffisegydd: did you like the pies? I liked the pies.
 
>! I wonder whether spoiler markdown works here ...
That would be a no then.
 
Chat never gets the fun toys :-(
 
2:28 PM
The pies are quite clever.
But the crayons...
 
DSM
Don't blame me! Reality is just colourful.
The latter figure is of migrating protoplanetary embryos, for those following along at home.
 
And...that's what baby planets would draw?
 
I'm not sure what my most complex figure is.
 
Re-cbg
 
DSM
I should dig up some of the animations. They were fun, including my favourite, when I destroyed the entire inner solar system by migrating a Jovian core through it.
 
2:35 PM
Have you been reading my phobia journal again?
 
I never got to break animations :( whenever I got to break something it had to be something real.
 
@Kevin Curious to see the latin for that one
 
Joviaphobia? That's catchy.
 
DSM
I'm jealous. People who get to break things in real life always seem like they have the mostest fun of all.
 
2:36 PM
Joviaohcrapgravitiuswellianophobeâ„¢
 
@Martijn ahh that's what you meant. I checked your avatar and it looks absolutely fine
Also, these colors are inconsistent
 
@Kevin Are you afraid that one day you'll be in the garden with your son (the protagonist always has a child in these scenarios) looking through a telescope. You'll be explaining the planets to him when you notice something through the eyepiece. Jupiter is getting close but...it's too close...
Get Michael Bay on the phone. Who would you like to play you Kevin?
 
@Ffisegydd Surely you just stop looking through the telescope and then it at least looks less close? :p
 
@MartijnPieters i.imgur.com/j8Rc5RI.jpg
 
On one hand, I don't think the Romans knew that planets were anything other than points in the sky, so it's not likely they'd have a specific name for being consumed by one. On the other hand, The personifications of the gas giants have a poor track record in that category.
 
2:44 PM
I'm half way through the screenplay for the movie now. We need a name, working title is "By Jove..."
 
So I do not think that it's the problem with SO or images
 
Well - didn't take long: pyfound.blogspot.de/2015/03/…
 
I think Elijah Wood could do a good me.
Mostly I just want him to repair some of the PR damage done to all Kevins by his unflattering portrayal in Sin City.
 
DSM
@Jon: it's good to see that everything's sorted. Things took a strange direction for a while there.
 
I had a quick look on the board earlier, not many around this area yet :P
 
2:48 PM
@DSM Well.. .we'll see... I think there's been pressure to launch - just don't look too closely at the bug tracker...
 
@DSM That reminded me of this old xkcd thread, where I calculated it'd take a shade under 2.175e9 years of total solar output to give Jupiter a speed of 0.5c, assuming you could somehow gather all that solar energy & convert into Jupiter's kinetic energy.
 
@PM2Ring using what I call a Dyson Funnel
 
The usual scheme to gather that kind of energy is to deconstruct Jupiter entirely and use the materials to build a Dyson Sphere. But then you have no planet to accelerate... It's a very "Gift of the Magi" problem.
 
No - wait! A Grant funnel.
 
@vaultah Yup, but that's not happening for me; if those images show correctly when you right-click and open in a new tab, then Chrome rendering appears buggered. It could be a video driver problem, or a Chrome problem.
 
2:52 PM
I love poppy seed bread, but I'm worried that if I ever have to do a drugs test they'll think I'm a heroin addict. #FirstWorldBreadProblems
 
buh... dumb question, how do you make list-like command line arguments in python? Eg, $ load_files file1 file2 file3 file4
 
DSM
I think that was the plot of a TV episode I saw.
 
Oooo how's this... someone noticed a dark area on Jupiter that keeps growing... we sent out a ship to explore... only for the ghost of a computer to warn us away... we just about escape as Jupiter's turned into a sun....
 
DSM
(Spoiler alert: the protagonist finally used nargs="*")
 
There is so much wrong with that scenario.
 
2:54 PM
@DSM wow you read my mind :)
 
DSM
I'd watch a Friday-night SyFy movie-of-the-week with that storyline.
 
@JonClements And then we get a broadcast saying "all these planets are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landings there"?
 
@Kevin a little on the nose for Kevins :)
 
@Kevin wow - you read my mind...
 
(oops, it's "all these worlds are yours". Europa isn't a planet anyway.)
 
DSM
2:57 PM
My email signature used to have "We create worlds." after my institutional affiliation.
 
@Kevin then... about a 1000 years later... we find an astronaut previously lost... let's call him, I don't know, Frank? (seems a good enough name)...
 
@corvid If those are the only args, just use sys.argv[1:], since it's already a list of strings. If there are more args, just ensure that your list of args is at the end. Crude, but it works in simple cases.
 

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