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6:24 PM
Sam has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
I've see you commited to that.
 
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/01/23/everyday-types-of-coders/
CommitStrip - Blog relating the daily life of web agencies developers
Everyday types of coders
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http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/01/26/fixing-a-bug-you-can-only-reproduce-in-production/
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Fixing a bug you can only reproduce in production
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http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/01/27/true-story-properly-reporting-a-bug/
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True story: properly reporting a bug
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http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/01/28/looks-can-be-deceiving/
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Looks can be deceiving
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http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/01/29/too-much-of-a-good-thing-can-make-you-sick/
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Too much of a good thing can make you sick
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Sam
lol, yes yes.
 
 
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8:40 PM
hey all, found another gem:
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Q: How can i report a user for downvote me?

Rui OliveiraA user downvote me because he don't understand my question, how can i report that to the administrators of stackoverflow? The reputation points are essential to vote in another questions and i don't have enough to that.

 
oh, and this is the post he's talking about
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Q: SerialPort receive ?? chars, encoding is not right

Rui OliveiraIn the documentation for SerialPort.Write in MS, says : By default, SerialPort uses ASCIIEncoding to encode the characters. ASCIIEncoding encodes all characters greater than 127 as (char)63 or '?'. To support additional characters in that range, set Encoding to UTF8Encoding, UTF32Encoding, or Un...

-20 is worse than -8
but at least it's on meta
 
lol
@gunr2171 I found a site which incorrectly describes Stack Overflow, do I just use the 'Contact Us' form to report it?
it's this one :aptana.com/support.html
referring to SO as 'Discussions', which SO doesn't do
moreover the related tag is pretty unhealthy, many questions are downvoted and of poor qualityn and 700 are unanswered.
 
I might be missing something, where does that site link to stack overflow?
oh durp, first link
 
Click the 'Discussions' link, imo it's wrong to link to SO as 'Discussions'
 
for the wording of their "Browse Discussions", I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's wrong, yes, but it's not the largest problem.
> The active community around Aptana Studio discusses a wide variety of getting started and configuration topics.
 
8:46 PM
it's sending people to the wrong place
eg, this:
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Q: Aptana Studio 3 Crash

Cameron Fisher-Gomez FastAssasI don't if this is the right place to post this, but whenever I try to launch Studio 3, it keep saying: Java was started but returned exit code=13. Can someone please help or direct me to the correct location this post belongs in? Thank you!

 
so if it's activly causing a problem for SO, write up a meta post, like the many "reach out" meta posts i've seen
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Other than that, there isn't a lot you can do
We can't force them to change their text.
 
I would, but IMO it's not worth it.
 
I know, the wording is just good enough to not make the effort worth it
 
8:49 PM
now it also looks like they have their own Q&A site
 
looks like a copycat of Stack Overflow
 
sigh, highest voted question is more an advertisement
and the answers are "thanks"
 
this question on Meta backfired sooo much:
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Q: Why has no one even commented, asked me to clarify or attempted to answer this?

bardmanI asked a question jQuery, Combining combo box and Autocomplete a month ago and no one has taken a stab at it. Did I do something wrong? Is it not interesting enough? Is it unanswerable? There is a lot of smart people on here, but why would no one even comment or anything?

 
At least its not on our site
 
their question:
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Q: jQuery, Combining combo box and Autocomplete

bardmanI am using the jQuery combo box and auto populate to create a form. Basically the problem I am having is that I can get either one to work perfectly independently, but when I try to combine them, it don't work. What I am trying to do is to have the first select box (CompanyId) typeable using th...

 
8:53 PM
I'm also looking to see if they have a "meta"
 
People trying to get exposure for their posts by hitting Meta, not usually a good idea
And when low-rep users do it in chat, its just funny
 
and that ladies and gentlemen, is the Meta Effect.
 
@BradleyDotNET Especially if their question in the first place is pretty bad.
 
I think they don't realize that the people that really care are on chat/meta and will judge their likely terrible post appropriately
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Which it almost always is :(
 
@BradleyDotNET True, earlier today I saw a Meta question which was basically saying 'ANSWER MY QUESTION!!1!11' (literally). Unfortunately it was removed within a few minutes if it being posted.
 
8:56 PM
Huh, missed that one
 
So I can't find much of a "meta" discussion on that Q&A site, but I did find this:
said by the CEO of the company, 5 years ago
 
oh, the irony:
 
indeed
 
Anyone here have 10k+ on IT Security?
gonna try and find this question:
 
wow, at least they admitted they were a script kiddie
 
9:06 PM
true
Love, the Teddy Bear.
 
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Q: IE Mobile evaluating screen dimensions before user confirm

MoosemanI only want to go fullscreen if the device is in landscape. Here's my code: if(window.innerHeight>window.innerWidth){ if(confirm('Go landscape then tap "ok".')){ alert(window.innerHeight<window.innerWidth); }else{ alert('You hit cancel.'); } }else{ alert('Device i...

 
@Mooseman That's IE for you. I'll be interested for possible fixes for that...
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ I was surprised IE mobile even supports fullscreen, really. I don't believe Safari or Chrome mobile do.
 
egyptian brackets........
 
@Mooseman My mobile's charging since it went flat, but I'll check.
 
9:13 PM
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ +1 Thanks
 
9:25 PM
@Mooseman Tried my mobile, Chrome doesn't support fullscreen, but however the menubar does go away when scrolling down the page.
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ So it's just IE. My fallback now is "Try again", but that's not optimal.
 
@Mooseman Hm, yeah, especially for user experience
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Exactly. For the 2% of mobile users that use IE mobile, I'm not too worried if there's no real solution.
 
@Mooseman Is there really any point in supporting IE mobile if only 2% of mobile users actually use it?
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Probably not, but I'll know.
 
9:40 PM
@Mooseman Defo works for my Android phone in Chrome:
@Mooseman Bug with Cyanogenmod Android 4.4.4 on Amazon Kindle Fire HD:
 
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ O.o
 
10:09 PM
@Mooseman Exactly.
 
can someoen tell me if im in the wrong here
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A: Get objects from list in Linq to new list

JLRisheYou are trying to compare a single question to a set of questions. You need to do an intersection. To avoid repeating the same operations needlessly, first get the set of questions in your controls: var controlQuestions = FlowLayouPanel1.Controls .OfType<M...

 
@CalvinSmith Not sure, only thing is that you shouldn't try to be 'snooty' to higher-up users than you.
@CalvinSmith I also flagged those comments from you as 'Not constructive'.
 
I dont blame you, i hope you flagged his as well
I assume his comment "Again, when you look at the whole error message it should be crystal clear what's wrong. Just read the message; it explains the problem exactly." is construtvie
 
@CalvinSmith No, I flagged your comments, not Servy's.
 
Servy is a bit... direct
But I actually didn't understand your question either, so if we are asking about accuracy, I'll side with him on this one.
As far as tone, I won't say its particularly nice, but its not rude either
 
10:23 PM
@CalvinSmith You were (whether it was your intention or not) just short of being slightly rude to Servy, who was attempting to help you and make your question better. If you already ready the error message and didn't understand how to fix the error it reports there, then you should've really have said that in your question.
 
Which part of the question does not make sense
cyber, is it not implied if i know what the error message is and still post the question on stack overflow, that i dont know how to fix the error??
 
@CalvinSmith I agree with @BradleyDotNET that your question isn't that clear.
 
how would you make it clearer
My first sentence is what I am trying to accomplish
 
@CalvinSmith This implies that you do not understand the error message.
 
That sentence makes sense to you.
"I am trying to test if a question exists in a control and then selecting the question text to add to a list."
Controls don't have questions
So right there, I'm like: "What?"
 
10:26 PM
@CalvinSmith Operator '==' cannot be applied to operands of type 'string' and 'System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable<string> is pretty clear to me, you should've told us that you didn't understand how to fix the error.
 
i get that bradley
 
Along with a better explanation of what you were trying to do/why you were comparing a string against a collection in the first place
 
but you dont keep reading, see the question control I am using, and say oh
 
No, not really
 
cyber
 
10:27 PM
@CalvinSmith As I understand the question is telling us you want to get the value of the corresponding item in the list to a Question.
 
I mean I read the whole thing, but it was not immediately, or even quickly, apparent what you are trying to do.
In fact, I'm still not sure, and I'm reading it for the third time
 
@CalvinSmith I agree that it's not immediately clear what you're trying to do here, and I'm still not quite sure.
 
What is this channel about? Description is kinda weird...
 
And reading your code, I read you are trying to compare a string against a control collection, which is definitely a "wtf" moment. So no, not clear at all
@mrpyo The title is a nod to "Tavern on the Meta", an old room now on Meta SE
Its basically the "meta" chat room
 
oh
 
10:30 PM
The descriptions of most rooms are weird :)
 
@mrpyo A place to discuss anything related to meta, imagine you're in a bar speaking about SO stuff :).
 
Idunno, i guess it seem strange to me that two people posted the right answer in 10 minutes
and I completly miss how Servy is being helpful at all with the comment, Again, when you look at the whole error message it should be crystal clear what's wrong. Just read the message; it explains the problem exactly.
I would be very surprised to see a person posting the problem error message and question if they knew how to fix the error message
I guess I would assume that simply by posting the error on StackOverflow that you do not know how to fix the error
 
@CalvinSmith Servy's basically saying that you should've looked at the error message before posting and if you did, you should've told us that you'd looked at it.
 
Well, it does. It says you are doing something crazy, like comparing a string and a collection control. Without knowing what you are trying to accomplish, that comment isn't so far afield
You could have said this:
 
I am trying to test if a question exists in a control and then selecting the question text to add to a list.
 
10:33 PM
@CalvinSmith You can easily <strike>invite</strike> ask Servy here if you want him to talk to you about it...
 
"I'm getting this error, but what I really want is to find if the question text is contained within any TextBox control on the form"
 
so im testing a control collection for each control and adding the text of that control to a list if it exists in this other list
 
No idea if thats what you are trying to do, I just made it up
but that would be a much better problem statement
Ok, that made a lot more sense
And here's the difference. In the first one, you asked how to implement a feature
In your most recent version, you asked how to solve a programming problem
There's a big difference
 
@CalvinSmith 'two people posted the correct answer within 10 minutes'
@CalvinSmith Don't you think it would be a good idea to upvote those two answers and choose one as the accepted answer then??
 
Sure, I wasnt aware I had to accept an answer in the first 3- minutes of opening a question
30*
 
10:37 PM
@CalvinSmith Well, if you have an answer that both works for you and is high quality, you should accept it, regardless of its (or the question's) age.
 
Sure, but If i accept sergeys answer as soon as i see it
then i have to unaccept it to accepts JLRishe
which is much better
then Sergey is sad I unaccepted his answer.
 
You certainly don't have to accept right away (upvotes are nice though!)
 
and i go cry ina corner because i hurt his feelings
 
@CalvinSmith You can always unaccept an answer to accept another one you think is better, I've done it a couple of times myself.
 
I've done it once, but I don't have many questions posted
I've had it done to me several times, it wasn't a big deal
The only time it annoyed me was when the guy unaccepted and didn't accept anything else
 
10:39 PM
@CalvinSmith Higher-rep users don't really care that much about reputation, they're usually happy. Sergey probably won't notice nor care about the unaccept.
 
Yeah i know i was more kidding with cyber monkey
 
btw, JLRishie's new comments on your post are pretty much spot-on
 
@BradleyDotNET amen, someone did that to me a couple of weeks ago.
 
I just read that
 
@BradleyDotNET I provided a perfect answer to their question and they accepted it, then unaccepted it a month later. Thing is, their question didn't have any other answers.
 
10:41 PM
@ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔ Yeah, thats really annoying
Probably somebody trying to rage-quit or something
Which is also really annoying, and then I have to go clean up after them :(
 
@BradleyDotNET There should really be some restriction in place that disallows the unaccepting of an answer if it is the only answer posted (and the question is more than a week old). Was thinking of doing a Meta post about it but I don't think it would be well-received.
 
No, probably not
that mark belonging to the poster seems to be sacrosanct
 
@BradleyDotNET True, but surely it isn't helpful to other people who want a solution to the problem and they have no idea if the provided answer works as it isn't accepted (when it was).
 
The counter argument would be that the poster discovered some flaw in the solution months later, and perhaps you didn't respond to his comment (not saying you would do that of course)
But even when I proposed this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/178439/…
That was the cross-site duplicate actually
"Bad accepted answers are rare, so we don't do anything about them"
granted, this is pretty much the opposite case
but SE really likes the current setup
 
@BradleyDotNET True, but even then the OP should be commenting on the answer explaining why the solution stopped working for them, most of those who answer don't leave their answers, they polish them up once in a while.
I do that often to ensure my answers are always up-to-date.
 
10:46 PM
Oh I agree, just playing devil's advocate
of course, that polishing is a little harder with 850+ answers
and most high rep users are in the thousands :)
 
@BradleyDotNET Yup :).
@BradleyDotNET For me it's amusing, because I always get big rep boosts when I can actually be bothered to answer questions. If I actually could be bothered to do it all the time I could probably be a pretty high-rep user.
 
Thats pretty much how it works
Its really hard to get rep off questions
 
@BradleyDotNET Gah, my most hated type of user: stackoverflow.com/questions/27235557/…
I answer their question then they answer 1/2 later with pretty much what I told them to do in my answer, then they never accept my answer either.
Got a few questions like them.
 
Well, it was practically "give me teh codez"
so you kind of had it coming on that one
 
@BradleyDotNET This is the question I was talking about earlier:
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A: "Unable to Locate DLL" when using opencv to capture video from camera

ʎǝʞuoɯɹǝqʎɔAs the error message states, the required DLL can't be found by Windows. This error is most likely caused by the absence of the OpenCV DLL; it must be placed either: In your System32 directory (usually C:\Windows\System 32) In the same directory as your executable Appended to your system's PATH...

Sole answer, accepted, then unaccepted a month later for absolutely no reason and no response from the OP when requesting more info.
 
10:57 PM
By the way, you are a little... aggressive with your acceptance requests.
I would read:
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A: Dealing with an answer that wasn't accepted (maybe because a user is a newbie in SO)

BenIf a new user has never accepted an answer before and has thanked you for your answer it is acceptable to point them to the functionality. I normally would write something like: Hi @user12345 if this or any answer has solved your question please consider accepting it by clicking the check...

 
@BradleyDotNET Yeah, now I normally make them aware of the functionality.
 
No problem, just noticed a lot of them on the posts you linked to :)
@CalvinSmith Did we answer your question alright?
I couldn't tell if you understood where we were coming from.
 
Oh dear
 
Yup.
@BradleyDotNET :(
 
harsh, though I think that makes sense
So you can't just "not like" the result and roll it back
Geoff should see my comment since he's in the revision history
 
@BradleyDotNET Yeah, he obviously didn't read the question specifics, comments, or Shog9's answer. If he did, he would've known it was a bug.
 
Apparently today is the "Well-Written rants by people who are totally overreaacting" meta day of the week
 
11:44 PM
@BradleyDotNET Otherwise known as a 'normal' day on Meta ;).
 
No, usually the rants are much more angry/incohesive
I've seen two that are very calm and rational, and totally unnecessary
At least the angry ranters had bad stuff happen to them
 

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