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12:02 AM
@SamuelLiew So why do you do it? Was such a nice line of n's
 
@Olaf that was the previous instance
 
@SamuelLiew Yes, but did not roll back to the nice line of repeated characters, but the ugly line with code and stuff
 
@Olaf I don't get it. You would prefer me to roll back to the previous vandalized version of the post?
 
@SamuelLiew Oh, you mean that was the vandalisation? :-P
(just consider I knew from the start what you meant, maybe you get me then :-)
@SamuelLiew Just to make clear what I mean, see this link to the history.
 
</3
 
12:17 AM
@YvetteColomb: ßo7
 
user3956566
\o
 
@4castle What does this one say? (seriously)
 
@Olaf <3 is a heart, so </3 is a broken heart
 
@YvetteColomb: Things still getting better?
@4castle Huh, now that is indeed far-fetched (for someone who is said to have no heart)
Who broke your heart?
 
12:21 AM
Mr. Astley
 
@4castle Yes, I always had my ears bleeding on the first seconds after I found the page (I don't bookmark such rubbish). Hated that song in the 80ies when it was new already. And not just because it was palyed in the radio/TV every hour or so.
 
user3956566
12:43 AM
@Olaf slowly, still early days
 
@YvetteColomb Yeah, just like snails doing "It". But still good to hear. (did I already say I wish you both all the best?)
 
user3956566
I think so :) thank you. I have to run
 
Read you!
 
 
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4:01 AM
QPaysTaxes reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit)! The time between QPaysTaxes's first and last review today was 2 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds, averaging to a review every 3 minutes and 24 seconds.
 
How do I tell Closey to spy on me?
That looks like fun
 
@JamesENL I'm not sure, but it appears that you need to request it.
 
@Closey request permission to Reviewer
 
@JamesENL I've created request #13 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
Fun times
 
4:38 AM
Today's weirdest title on SE is : Are GSM and teeth related to each other?
 
 
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user3956566
5:54 AM
hi all
 
two approve, two reject so far; I don't think it matters much where it lands because the question is pretty hopeless
 
6:23 AM
more generally, with all the ugly cruft removed, this is a simple "what does this error message mean?" question which is fairly common but I cannot find a canonical duplicate either here or on SU
should I post a canonical question, mark this one as a duplicate, and have the canonical migrated to SU? (sic!)
 
6:46 AM
Good Morning \o
 
7:32 AM
can anyone help me with approving these changes, please? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/15902185
 
Sure @AndyK
 
thanks @halfer
 
7:50 AM
@AndyK it's better if you don't ask relative to your own stuff in this chat.
 
hi @PetterFriberg, fair enough.
 
Hiya, yeah it's not seen as a correct thing to do on SO, we don't help each other, we are here only to help SO
 
really??? O_O
 
someone might complain if we start helping each other
 
8:11 AM
@JanDvorak Yeah I will :D
 
You don't count ;-)
 
aah you mean something like this
 
please vote for me!!!
2
(but I did not say on what...)
 
!!/vote @AndyK prez
/me smacks @SmokeDetector for being deaf/ignorant
 
I don't think it would be okay to systematiclly use chats to get your own issues dealt with faster--but if it happens occasionally no reason to complain
I'm sure there's a rule about this somewhere
 
8:17 AM
The room also have that rulezzz, but a part from rule lets focus on SO and it's quality and not our own needs other then having fun.
 
The line is not always easy to draw, Petter , honest.
 
@AndyK meeh as long as you stay away from trying to get benefit for your own SO account (rep, questions, answers) your ok, the rule is nr 15, it those not state anything about suggested edits, but the spirit is same. Furthermore often you can evade it if your intention is to learn ;), hence question as "Is this a good edit?" etc are better
 
This is really annoying me now, I should probably step away. I presume would have seen this meta post. I'm getting ripped apart in the comments, was I wrong to suggest it lacked research effort and was unclear? Tiny certainly seems to think so!
 
ah Petter! :)))
nah
I try to go the slow way
so even if I can, i try as much as possible to respect
SO ways
 
8:37 AM
@Lankymart Yeah step away, lack of research, give codezz is not a cv reason, unclear and too broad are. I can't really judge the question the best is always to find a duplicate.
 
@PetterFriberg so if a question doesn't have a dup on SO it doesn't matter how poor a question it is? So a "give me the codez" question is fine as long as it hasn't been asked before? O.o
 
@JanDvorak I like your hat. You did that or is it a SO award?
 
@Lankymart Yeah if it is clear and not too broad.
@Lankymart and you will be surprised that the most upvoted questions are about simple stuff
 
true, but...
 
@FireAlarm that looks like one in that category @PetterFriberg @Lankymart
 
8:44 AM
@Adriaan That's too broad.
 
@PetterFriberg in the past they were, shouldn't be the case now. A lot of the highly voted questions were POB but the rules are different now.
 
and unclear...
 
@PetterFriberg oh, ok. I read that as being relatively straight forward. Closing is fine by me though :D
 
@Lankymart see my example a very simple question... hence that's why its best to find duplicates
 
8:46 AM
@Adriaan see the answer "With Ajax request, and call a php script with your sql request", hence you need to explain what is ajax, php etc... so it gets broad...
 
@PetterFriberg yea, the answer is.
Is the fact that something can be done in a plethora of ways means that it is too broad? Even though there's a straight forward basic solution?
 
Still find that incredibly frustrating. What's the point in closing questions in that case?, it's a waste of time and effort.
 
Yeah when you find frustration take a timeout, the point is to close question where there will be no good answers, hence avoid that they destory the search for answer.
In my example int, people are searching on that and will find a solution easily
In FireAlarms example, we don't want that crap to interfeer with searches on "Trigger sql" etc...
@Lankymart anyway only a partof questions on SO get closed, tons of the cv and flags age away (review time that just ends up in the bin) that's my biggest frustration.
SO wants you to find duplicates on low research effort (easy) questions, if you can't find a dupe well then answer it.
 
I don't think this helps the site quality
 
Then try meta ;)
 
8:56 AM
!!/location
 
I actually have nothing against simple questions, but yeah you can bet there is a duplicate already
 
@PraveenKumar teward / Midnight Eclipse
 
I'm wondering when this happens: "-1 stop downvoting obvious duplicates" "yes, it's obviously a dupe, but I dare you to find an actual question it duplicates"
 
@JanDvorak Yeah that's a problem... and people are more encourage to answer'em with current rep system
 
9:00 AM
I'm tempted to join the herd
 
@JanDvorak Yeah, but I don't probably mostly because it's boring and I can't buy anything with reps....
 
I'm close to 20k
 
Yeah answers some dupes, so you can delete some stuff
 
that :-)
It basically forces you to be in the shoes of those you hurt. Maybe it's intentionally that way?
 
(maybe) they started Documentation since the Q/A is out of control (a debug my code site)
 
9:05 AM
@PetterFriberg That's what Shog said :-)
 
yeah more or less I just added some emphasis on certain issues
 
9:35 AM
^ what close reason?
 
9:45 AM
... How do typo questions get 2 upvotes?
Same for answers.
 
There are some strange people out there
 
hey @Cerbrus
 
10:50 AM
@AndyK Hi?
 
@AshishAhuja not sure off-site, maybe too broad.
probably a duplicate..
it's one of those stuff you can change to "How do I do this", hence code could be the answer.
 
nothing @Cerbrus, just a quick hi
 
@AndyK Ah, hai
You have a } too many after popup.style.displayCerbrus 2 mins ago
@Cerbrus How?... — TheRandomGuy 1 min ago
*Facedesk*
 
Roundtabledesk
 
11:11 AM
:-)
 
11:36 AM
Morning
 
user3956566
\o
 
@halfer I still don't know what I want to write for a meta answer. I haven't forgotten though. Just thinking.
 
No worries. No rush, I suspect the OP in that case can't be made to care about their material anyway. However something to help shape long-term policy would be great, it currently looks like the community is cautiously in favour of careful CV by user, but I am happy to go either way
If someone wants to ping Shog on this that's cool - it seems to be an area he's had a strong voice on in the past.
 
user3956566
12:07 PM
 
Did you try some warm soapy water?
 
Lordy, I wouldn't ask a wolf about pet care tbh :-)
3
 
user3956566
nope. I've been using a mix of mineral oil, with eucalyptus oil, tea tree oil and citronella - we use it as a fly repellant. Some people on another site are suggesting eucalyptus oil, tea tree oil or white vinegar
 
user3956566
@halfer he's an avid horse rider :) he doesn't eat them
 
Hmm, his wolfy eyes are a bit too close together in that pic
 
user3956566
12:20 PM
ikr he looks hungry
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver do you have horses?
 
@YvetteColomb I guess you have already asked the veterinarian who probably put it on how to get it off?
 
user3956566
a vet and I have been putting it on there ;) it's been going on for 12 days @Rizier123
 
user3956566
often time other horse owners have better ideas for these things than young vets. Not older vets
 
@YvetteColomb No. I used to ride horses and I have pets(dogs and cats). I just know that pretty much any time you need to clean something sensitive they suggest warm soapy water. You can use a mild baby soap to make it even better.
 
12:23 PM
@NathanOliver You rid horses? From the world or just your life?
 
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Q: Should we burninate [arrow]

WeedozeThe tag [arrow] has 401 associated questions but they are all related to different technologies : Javascript, Android, C, Python, r, HTML,... It can mean everything and nothing. Most of the time, there is a more specific tags that can be used : Javascript - [arrow-function] HTML/CSS - [arrow-k...

 
user3956566
@NathanOliver I don't think the soapy water would be enough
 
user3956566
but thanks for the idea :)
 
12:25 PM
The following is a list of users requesting access to a permission group.
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Is this "no MCVE"? It does have code but it is unwieldy, it's several years old and the one answer did not help. OP has abandoned: stackoverflow.com/questions/17801882/…
 
@AshishAhuja Closed long back. :(
 
Sam
@clo approve request 13
 
@Sam @JamesENL has been added to the Reviewer group.
 
user3956566
hi @Sam
 
Sam
12:27 PM
Hiya
 
user3956566
@PraveenKumar you -- are -- here !! ??
 
@YvetteColomb Hi! :D
Yup...
 
user3956566
@PraveenKumar you have some free time for a while?
 
!!/hiya @YvetteColomb @Sam @Praveen \o
 
Yes...
Now?
I am free now. :) @YvetteColomb
 
12:28 PM
@YvetteColomb No clue
 
Sam
@kayess o/
 
@kayess o/
 
@halfer Interesting. I would think that should have been auto deleted by point 10 here
 
If all else fails, a razor, @YvetteColomb... Or patience.
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus it does come off with a lot of brushing and a lot of the oil I mentioned
 
user3956566
12:30 PM
did you see her injury? @Cerbrus
 
Eh, yea, I really didn't need to see that.
 
0
Q: More angular tag madness: "angularjs-2.0"

torazaburoI just noticed the existence of an "angularjs-2.0" tag with 119 questions. This should be removed with extreme prejudice. Of course it should be "angular". How do we do that again?

 
Thanks @NathanOliver, I will give it a little hurry :-)
@YvetteColomb - did you find out how Cleo got injured?
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus oh soz. She is getting better
 
user3956566
@halfer nope. we're not allowing horses in that paddock for now
 
12:32 PM
@YvetteColomb That's a relief
 
Good idea
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus it is, sorry to traumatise you. It was a huge shock and so worrying. The swelling has gone down remarkably this past 24 hours.
 
user3956566
@halfer def yes (why do I feel like I'm writing in python?)
 
@YvetteColomb Just keep in mind that you warn for something that graphic, should that ever be necessary... Let's hope not.
 
bye
 
12:44 PM
Bye Andy
 
user3956566
@Cerbrus ok so sorry
 
morning!
 
user3956566
\o
 
user3956566
night
 
Sam
1:00 PM
Afternoon
 
1:26 PM
@PetterFriberg so I guess this is fine then? No research effort, no code just a link to an MSDN example...
@Lankymart turns out this had a dup...but still.
 
1:43 PM
!!/alive
 
@Henders plz send teh coffee
 
@SmokeDetector not sure how I feel about that
 
Oh, @YvetteColomb, still around?
 
2:19 PM
Should this be closed as no repro or just leave it alone? You could probably use no mcve as well since there is not enough information in the Q for someone else to try and solve it.
 
2:30 PM
Anyone else notice if rep notifications are not working again?
 
@NathanOliver Check if you lost rep due to user removal
 
Nope
 
But yeah, they didn't work for me after my newest meta.SE answer getting upvoted
 
Yeah for some reason I am still at 12k instead of at 100k rep
must be broken
 
My rep page says I've gained 80 but the notification is only showing 55
@TylerH :p
 
2:32 PM
maybe you saw the other 25 earlier?
and clicked on the rep dropdown, thus clearing out the notification?
 
Nah
The dropdown doesn't contain ANY info about my newest answer
 
Don't think so. It is not even listed.
 
TO META
 
I dropped a comment to Oded here
 
@NathanOliver have you visited the question page?
it could be that visiting the post that earned you rep is detected and clears it from the notification tab
I don't think SO's notification tab is that smart though
 
2:39 PM
@TylerH I did when I got a reply from the OP and that is when I noticed my answer was up voted and accepted but I never got a rep notification for that.
@TylerH I've never seen that behavior before.
 
Asynchronous code!
Hmm, there's only one culprit, then:
 
Oded is looking into it.
 
@NathanOliver When did you hit 50k? :O
 
Day before yesterday me thinks. Just noticed today really.
 
Congratz :)
 
2:50 PM
ty. half way to my goal of getting swag :)
 
Easy 8-)
 
Cool
 
@Lankymart yeah if not unclear (containing enough info to understand exactly what he needs) nor too broad (you need to write to much to explain it all considering the question, hence the level of detail/understanding), the correct way is to duplicate it.
 
I do like that they are implementing they override rejected edit feature.
 
3:08 PM
@Nathan should be fixed by now
 
@NathanOliver Got a link to that one? Sounds cool
 
Not to a feature request but see this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/348219/…
 
3:22 PM
@PetterFriberg TB's fine too IMO
 
Sorry if I flooded this room with cv-pls'es, I didn't realize till I left a message how many requests I made
 
I was actually just about to say something
 
Say it, then
Arguably saying it is better than saying you'd say something
 
I want to leave you all in suspense
 
Oh, I just realized it can catenate forever
 
4:09 PM
also, I'm now going to bed.
bye!
 
I'd say I'd say I'd say I'd say I'd say I'd say I'd say I'd say it.
 
Too late!
 
@AshishAhuja \o
@halfer That should be accompanied by 'MWAHAHHAHA' or it'd not bear any meaning
 
I was doing an evil laugh sureptiously
It was as hidden as my lair
 
4:18 PM
Plop!
 
Hiya Kyll
 
4:43 PM
@M.A.R. That would be German
 
Oh, can't watch it now
 
user1593881
5:11 PM
Hello all.
 
@NathanOliver, or any RO, Please remove this request. The OP has edited the question and added code. I still need to test to see that it actually duplicates the problem, but it is no longer obviously lacking a MCVE.
 
user1593881
Thinking of building a house, not buying one...
 
ty
 
user177800
5:20 PM
anyone know where the meta dicussion about "stackoverflow is not a learning / tutorial" site is?
 
@JarrodRoberson You just described half of Meta
 
I did find this which I hadn't seen before.
 
user1593881
If there is a "we don't allow homework questions on SO, but wait, we do" post I'd like to be notified.
 
user177800
@Makyen it is still a duplicate of every other question about undefined and how to fix it.
 
user177800
@NathanOliver there is a post that specifically says "SO is not a tutorial site" about handholding/doc reading for the OP questions.
 
user1593881
5:28 PM
What is this shaders OpenGl script thingy? Looks like I didn't get the memo.
 
user177800
@NathanOliver this one is close but still not what I am remembering and that I am looking for.
 
5:40 PM
@room owners: can you please move this request and this dupe request (oops) to the trash? Another user edited the question. You can participate in the meta post about it if you'd like as well
 
@JarrodRoberson It's a bit more complicated than that, but it will probably come down to either an issue in the manifest.json, or an error in testing methodology. After actually testing the code, it's still no MCVE, due to settings in the manifest.json, but after making changes in the manifest.json such that the code runs as is probably intended, it's no-repo (probably an error in testing methodology). Given that the OP has updated the code once, I'm going to wait to see if they do so again.
 
Thanks!
 
user177800
6:08 PM
@SmokeDetector this is spam disgusied as an answer
 
user177800
@Machavity yeah, I know, sad is it not?
 
6:51 PM
There is indeed
 
Which says, don't do it
I wonder where that transparency thingy lead to
 
Maybe we just need a bot to zap such requests from the room :-p
 
@halfer correct and the RO's noticed but for dupes between the same user we are kind of OK with it.
 
Gotcha, thanks @rene
 
@SmokeDetector bounty prevents cv-pls on the question, it's a request for off-site resources. Flagged for mod attention to maybe get the bounty removed
 
7:47 PM
@tripleee I del voted it
Oh this is awesome
var warp_speed = rand(5,9); make_it_so(); — DVK-on-Ahch-To Apr 3 '12 at 16:12
 
@NathanOliver that's a good one
 
8:01 PM
I just successfully migrated my Linux to an SSD. \o/
(I'm so bad at all admin stuff lol.)
 
wow, I'm terrified when I hear linux...
@Machavity can you check this stackoverflow.com/q/43543129/5292302, the whole stuff seems useless to SO, but I'm not a PHP guy.
 
@PetterFriberg Ugh... that's not even a PHP question. he's just code barfed HTML. There's no CSS either. No MCVE
Answer is NAA btw
 
@Machavity Yeah MAR found it since the answer is really bad... but they are hard tot flag...
better just to get rid of it all in once.
 
We'll just nuke the Q
 
If I posted a question 2 years ago, but it never received any up or down votes, how can get it some up votes? Because I need my asking ability back...
 
8:08 PM
@JackKirby edit it, make it great, when you edit it will also become active, hence more visibility
but watch out it can go both ways
 
@PetterFriberg Is there any other way? because I asked it perfectly, and can't think of any good edits
 
@JackKirby no, the other way is to sit and wait, the way to give visibility is by editing and bounty.
 
bounty....
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@JackKirby Yeah search help section to learn about bounty
 
8:11 PM
I know about bounty
But the minimum is 100 reps :/
 
I think 50? (since I got one like that, but not sure what is the actual min.)
 
I'll see
oh
eyah
it's 50
cv?
is that closevote?
 
@JackKirby It's a fad thing for the room. Closing votes, or something. I'm sure we'll get bored of it by next week
 
@JackKirby watch out with bounty, I do not want to sound harsh, but your questions are not the best once, they are not perfectly formatted and some are rather unclear.
@Jack If you like to talk about a specific question you can invite me in a room and I can help you some explaining the problems and how you could improve'em
 
You could always ask about it on Meta. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
 
8:26 PM
rene passed an audit!
 
@JackKirby yes, cv = close vote. In this room we're a loose collective of site cleaners - we close and delete to keep Stack Overflow quality high
We do a lot of editing of people's posts too - we prefer to improve rather than zap
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 19 minutes and 21 seconds, averaging to a review every 29 seconds.
 
@PetterFriberg That has a very SHOUTY ANSWER :-O
 
@halfer close and delete the entire things Id say
 
8:42 PM
@halfer Thats how I found it, by the comment on it :D, perspective had hit on it
 
Gotcha
 
@halfer If you have some time flagging NAA and like to find problematic stuff, you can step by SOBotics room
 
Ah thanks, didn't know about that room
 
not much chatting mostly bot posting stuff, but yeah there is lots of work to keep you busy
 
Gah, I do too much OCD editing as it is :-p
 
8:51 PM
:D, yeah true but it get like a drug, flagging NAA and comments... I "almost" even stoped answering question
 
9:26 PM
Heh :-)
 
9:47 PM
Should I NAA this? One of the links is dead. Q looks eligible for a simple retag
 
> +1 for the link collection. Thanks.
 
@Machavity Flagged naa
Works out fine in my experience.
 
@ThomasWeller so much rep for such a question...
 
I also don't understand that. But he's not the only one, unfortunately.
 
@Adriaan let's not talk about users
 
10:02 PM
The first rule of rene club is we do not talk about rene
 
10:24 PM
Seeded some new Apple CVs and deletions
 
Do questions resolved by fixing obviously invalid syntax count as a typo error? Or how should that be handled? Link to question. In the mean time, it currently has no MCVE.
 
That was fast!
 
10:48 PM
@4castle No good rule inventing mumble mumble... Shakes fist =D
 
@BaummitAugen I mean, I'm just explaining my reason for downvoting as not useful. Pure JavaScript questions aren't even aloud to use jQuery, let alone C#
 
@4castle Not arguing with that, I just found their reply amusing.
 

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