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12:20 AM
Cool. I hit 20k finally. Just noticed I can delete vote the recently closed
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@Machavity WOW Congrats!
 
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@QPaysTaxes I currently live in canada, and I'm a service manager at a motorcycle dealership
 
user4639281
Hopefully in the next few months I will be living in the san francisco bay area working for google as a front end software engineer
 
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@Machavity L. hahaha. O. hahaha. L. hahaha.
 
12:33 AM
@TinyGiant Umm... people seems to prefer living in Canada, no?
 
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@Braiam I would prefer making three times as much as I'm currently making, plus all the benefits
 
@TinyGiant just FYI, the Bay Area has a MUCH higher cost of living. Like insane housing
 
user4639281
@Machavity I know, I've been looking. We will probably be getting a house in san jose
 
wow, postfix + dovecot + mailman is a serious PITA
2 hours figuring out stuff
more like 1.5 hours figuring out that dovecot and mailman doesn't play along
 
Sam
@Braiam ikr
 
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12:42 AM
@Braiam Isn't basically any mail service a PITA?
 
@Braiam Well, postfix is slightly less annoying than qmail. It's like the difference between being torn to shreds by rabid wolves vs nibbled to death by squirrels
 
user4639281
@QPaysTaxes You're not going to be in mountain view?
 
user4639281
It's only a 1.5 hour flight
 
They're building a high speed train. Maybe. Should carry people from Modesto to Bakersfield. In 2025
 
user4639281
One day they will build one of those tubes that hurls people at 3000km/h to their destination
 
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12:52 AM
@Qpays btw you should have smokey privs now
 
@TinyGiant You mean Hyperloop One? I think they've got some flaws they need to iron out. Like what happens in explosive decompression
 
yay....
man, I'm not sure if the thing works or not...
> relay=local, delay=0.01, delays=0/0.01/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=deliverable (aliased to "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman")
I think yes...
 
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@Machavity I don't think that's the one I was previously reading about, but it could be
 
1:25 AM
@Sam did you used the same combination? What you did to prevent loops?
 
Sam
@Braiam I can only remember using postfix and dovecot, which was several months ago :/
 
@Sam well, apparently it works
 
2:12 AM
@Floern that wasn't deliberately destructive, was it? some users simply don't know that backticks shouldn't be used the way i use them in this chat message
 
2:58 AM
Should I mark an older question as a dupe of a newer if it has better explanation?
 
3:25 AM
@AndrewLi Yes, you should
 
3:42 AM
@4castle thanks
I'll wait until my answer has feedback though.
 
3:57 AM
> We’ll do a large post when we move the entire network over, but expect Stack Overflow to start defaulting https:// in the next few weeks. -- Nick Craver at 6:54 PM - 17 Feb 2017
 
 
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5:59 AM
Is a post like "This is crap. Everything is wrong" as an answer abusive/rude?
 
@AshishAhuja Yes, I'd say so.
 
stackoverflow.com/a/42311590/4688119 it's in hindi, but it means mostly what I told
@Adriaan ok, thx
 
@AshishAhuja isn't there a mod who speaks that?
@QPaysTaxes that'd fit always, yea. If, on the other hand, you speak the language you're more than welcome to flag as rude, if appropriate.
 
not sure about that. TLM and Bhargav are the only Indian mods, and I'm not sure if they are available right now
 
@QPaysTaxes then we'd have an English rant. That's pointless
 
6:01 AM
^
it doesn't contain any actual profanity, it mostly translates to "this is waste everything is wrong"
 
@AshishAhuja still rude
 
ok then. Flagging, thanks
@QPaysTaxes I speak Hindi.
The only languages I know are Hindi and English
 
If I check your code and say to you "This was a complete waste of my time, it's utterly wrong", you'd think me rude no?
 
@QPaysTaxes ok, but do note that it does not contain any actual swear words, it mostly is the translation what I told earlier
@Adriaan yes
@QPaysTaxes yeah
thanks for the help!
posted the translation in HQ, it'll be nuked now.
@Fire alive
heh, looks like fire is not listening to the chat websocket in both SOBotics and SOCVR cc @NobodyNada
fire rebooted..
ok great.
 
@AshishAhuja sigh. That's the second answer I see which starts with "You shouldn't ask this here..." or a variant on that in as much days
stackoverflow.com/questions/42311620/… this a NullPointer dupe? (cc @Tunaki)
 
6:17 AM
@Adriaan heh.. SE devs are creating new things like Docs and Jobs without making the Q&A system better.
 
6:30 AM
heh.. I normally use the flag link to even VTC a q, but I don't know why I clicked Spam.. sorry. I've informed HQ. You can just ignore it.
 
6:40 AM
Installing update...
Installing update...
 
 
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7:53 AM
^Too broad, or SuperUser?
@FireAlarm aaaaand it got an insta-answer... RIP Roomba
delv-pls on that ^once closed
oh the iOS tag, so many loose upvotes :(
@QPaysTaxes he answered; his answer's full of speeling and gremmer errors
 
Installing update...
 
just a poor sod trying to get the illuminator badge I guess. Got lucky with the OP approving
can you ping the editor without using their full name? Didn't know that, I always simply copied their full name
 
@Adriaan you need the first 3 chars I guess like in chat; not sure though
 
@AshishAhuja could be. I usually use tab-completion, and, failing that for editors, I simply copy their ID and strip the spaces
@QPaysTaxes righto. Gave him a few pointers
 
ah. In chat, I normally use the first few chars if they make sense. Otherwise even I use tab-completion
for eg, I always refer to FireAlarm as fire
 
8:08 AM
answer has one ànd is accepted by now, so delv-pls it will be. Urgh, great start of the day
 
@QPaysTaxes Some users feel sorry for the user and just upvote... we really should make upvoting come at 125 rep like dv
 
urf, that was a brain-wrecking edit.
 
You spilled knowledge in our room with your brain-wreck ...
 
@JAL @PetterFriberg @PaulRoub ^ was edited with code. Any better now?
@QPaysTaxes the only other question by that user, was edited by the same dude; +4/-5. Is that enough voting-fraud evidence?
not sure. Voting patterns in iOS are as shady as I can see. People upvote the most outrageously broad/unclear/off-topic questions
Not yet. I'll keep an eye on it and flag if more occurrences take place.
 
8:44 AM
muh.
Lots of new/noob coders who have the same broad and unclear questions I guess
I mean, everyone wants to build an iOS app nowadays
flagged the user nonetheless; both edits were crap and approved by OP within a few seconds
10:00 here :P got up at 05:00
 
@Adriaan why on earth do you get up at 05:00?
 
@rene not my idea :(
got blood-blisters of 4x2cm on both feet, guess they woke me up after 4 hours of sleep
 
Ouch...
 
I'm very awake now though, for some reason. I'll just take an afternoon nap over a nich game of snooker I guess
 
9:42 AM
What do you do about those that answer but then also provide another snippet for a different language when the OP only asked about one?
 
9:59 AM
@Lankymart upvote? because that has value, right?
 
10:16 AM
@rene how does adding a snippet of an unnecessary language add value? If the OP had done that the question would have been flagged as "too broad", wouldn't it?
 
@Lankymart Well, I don't see much harm if it is like this is how you do it in X. Fun fact: Y has excellent support to solve your question, namely you do awesome code in Y.
 
wow, has it finally been implemented that the accepted answer no longer sticks to the top regardless of the votes?
 
@Adriaan you changed your default sort order?
 
@Adriaan are you using the default sort?
 
Hallelujah!
10k!
4
 
10:22 AM
No idea, I sorted by votes
 
@AndrewLi finally ;)
 
@rene it's the same piece of code just repeated. and here it is in Y. Also I did up-vote because the X solution is very good and just don't understand why they also added Y.
 
@Adriaan yes! indeed. But it might have something to do with the fact that there isn't an accepted answer there?
 
@rene there is, way down with a score of 2
 
10:25 AM
Oh, eye-sight ...
 
Whoops, 30 pending flags (a)
I guess I won't research any iOS user again... it makes me sad.
 
@AndrewLi congrats!
 
@Adriaan you didn't research Oneclick IT Solutions did you? ;p
 
@Adriaan wow.. I'll start posting NAA's from today to get to 10k rep :p
 
@Lankymart well, no. I found a user with weird behaviour, so I looked at their 10 latest answers. Mainly non-code "click-like-this" solutions, and 30 comment flags for "thanks" in 5 minutes
@AshishAhuja Exactly!
 
10:30 AM
@Adriaan sounds peculiar... O.o
 
apparently that's how stuff works on iOS, I didn't say that tag makes me sad for naught
@AshishAhuja oh, I flagged that as NAA. SHould I have customed for voting fraud?
gone in any case
 
maybe.. I didn't check the user, do they look fishy?
 
@AshishAhuja if you manage to dodge both Smokey and this room with that kind of answers I guess you can have your 10K ;)
High quality NAA's
 
@AshishAhuja regular iOS unclear/TB questions with lots of upvotes
 
@rene I know how Smokey and most of the bots here work, I'll make the post such that they don't catch the filters :)
 
10:35 AM
:O I flagged a comment as being naught but a software rec and it got declined :(
 
@Adriaan self-answered, credits to Bart
 
@Adriaan you can raise a flag on any post of the user for voting irregularities. That is what I have done till now.
 
@Lankymart I just wondered if the Here it is in Y should be edited out as it bears no relevance the tag being asked about?
 
@rene just got an answer :/
 
@rene aight, thanks
 
10:39 AM
@fire threshold
 
@AshishAhuja The threshold for this room is 35 (higher thresholds report more posts).
 
@AshishAhuja we are slacking ... :(
 
11:04 AM
can a RO clear that please^
his comment clarrified
 
@Adriaan is it not just a variation of this?
@Adriaan or this?
 
@Lankymart huh? Indeed, self dupe
I'll remove my answer
 
There not exact tbf, it's just something like getting the next date seemed to me to be something that would have been asked before.
 
@Lankymart ah true, it wants a businessday, whilst their latest answer simply wants the next day
 
@Adriaan it's the use of datenum() that drew me to it, but there doesn't seem to be an "exact match".
 
11:20 AM
It still deserves all the downvotes due to lack of research though. No longer unclear, nor a dupe, nor too broad alas.
 
@Adriaan this answer seems to show both the array and the loop, which is what the OP is trying to do, minus the business day ofc.
@Adriaan the question is pretty poor tbh
 
@Lankymart could be. datenum goes perfectly fine on arrays though
 
12:08 PM
@Adriaan yes
 
@Tunaki I see it has been hammered already :P
thanks fishboy!
 
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
    at sample.Window1controller.Button_Action(Window1controller.java:63)
That's what gives it away
 
 
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3:50 PM
Hi all o/
 
yay! Used the hammer on meta
@AshishAhuja next time include "unique to software development" and "product support"
or costumer
 
ok, will do.
 
Pro tip: Flag Non-English posts as VLQ and not spam/rude.
Hiya all \o
 
@BhargavRao o/
 
Hey Bhargav
 
4:05 PM
@BhargavRao what if they are actually rude?
 
@AshishAhuja Mods cant decide that, translation tools aren't actually perfect.
@Machavity \o ... Congrats on 20k, welcome to the league of answer deleters ;)
 
Installing update...
 
@BhargavRao Will do in the future. Sorry about the misinformation from my end.
 
Np, Just wanna save you all from future declined flags. :)
 
@BhargavRao heh.. that makes sense. Btw, is there a meta on it?
 
4:10 PM
@BhargavRao well, I got 30 approved this morning, so I can handle one declined flag ;)
 
@Adriaan :| .... brb, declining all your flags
 
thanks love. You going to undelete all those "thanks" comments now? :P
 
@BhargavRao ok thanks! will do that in the future, sorry.
 
@BhargavRao Thanks! Sadly, I start it with a review ban. Didn't read a tag edit closely enough
 
@Adriaan Exactly :D
 
4:13 PM
@BhargavRao so if I find a highly rude post in DUtch I still should flag VLQ, even though I know there's a mod who speaks Dutch?
 
@Machavity Ugg, Happens. I used to skip all the tag wiki stuff, just for that reason. :P
@Adriaan Well, you can flag and keep your fingers crossed, asking God to make that mod handle your flag.
 
Plop morning everyone
 
Plop @Kyll
 
mroning Kyll
 
@BhargavRao oh, you don't actually get a mod who speaks that language, if any available, to handle or at least review that flag?
 
4:17 PM
@Adriaan nopes, we all like to decline pink elephant flags.
:D
 
why are all mods so rude to me :(
 
@Adriaan You are a pink elephant =D
 
stomps feet in anger at the puppies
 
Heh, stop that, it starts to shake here
 
@rene oh, did I tell you about the plant I got for my birthday? :D
 
4:22 PM
To smoke?
 
I'm a mining/oil engineer, and a good friend of mine is more-or-less an environmentalist. She gave me a plant, Klaas-Jan de sansevieria, with the accompanying text: "You are old enough now to handle coal in its essence on your desk" :D
I'm very content with Klaas-Jan
 
@fire alive
 
@Adriaan :D
 
looks like FireAlarm is on fire..
@fire reboot
looks like it is not listening to the chat websocket here. It is working in the dev room...
@fire alive
 
4:49 PM
@Adriaan is Klass-Jan a soccer player?
 
5:04 PM
@Adriaan wait wat? What have I done!? :p
 
@Makyen Sorry, I took the first in the duplicate suggested list. I assumed it was yours.
 
@QPaysTaxes sd n
 
@BaummitAugen [:35727436] That message is not a report.
 
@QPaysTaxes Yup, there is.
 
Okay... that's weird with smokey and QPays swapping places in the user list...
 
5:06 PM
@QPaysTaxes The ninja puppy, as always were
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis No problem. I mistakenly ran myself out of close votes, so could not vote to close. I usually save some for this type of situation.
 
@QPaysTaxes ahh... but you're going to hate yourself less than the guy who decided to write it in assembler!
 
5:26 PM
I would like a proposed duplicate to show up in the close➞Duplicate list for this question (dup of this question). I can't vote to close because I'm out of close votes. I thought that if I placed a link to the dup-target in a comment that it would show up in the Duplicate list, but that does not appear to happen. Is there a way w/o voting to close to get a question to show up in the Duplicate list?
@QPaysTaxes Thanks. Not being able to get the appropriate question to show up in the close➞Duplicate list is frustrating.
 
5:59 PM
@QPaysTaxes I assume congratulations are in order. Presumably, Italian is not your native language.
 
6:20 PM
@QPaysTaxes it would be more shocking had you never learned Italian.
Imagine this line ... I just realized I've been reading PHP for the past half hour
 
@rene Welcome to Südtirol I guess.
 
:D
 
7:04 PM
@BaummitAugen Is it worth to be kept on site? (Thinking of a 20k delv there)
 
or a quick mod one :D
 
@BhargavRao I have no delvotes left, but let me look for a dupe.
If we have one, this can go for sure.
 
Jan 16 at 10:39, by Bhargav Rao
Nov 24 '16 at 11:31, by Bhargav Rao
@rene Yep. The room lost a 20k delv-er when I was voted as mod. :/
 
> The list of arguments must be terminated by a NULL pointer, and, since these are variadic functions, this pointer must be cast (char *) NULL.
From the manpage, first google hit.
Safe to nuke it IMO.
Here's an on-site dupe. @BhargavRao
 
Meh, Anyway it is closed as no MCVE
 
7:10 PM
@BhargavRao I bookmarked it and will delvote tomorrow.
 
Ah, Fine
 
I need to wait 3 days : (
 
Any Java/Android people around?
 
@PetterFriberg Get rep, slacker!
 
@PetterFriberg First time you wrote something along the lines of "in a few days" I thought you intended to go to 20k in a few days.
Bounty hunt Ahoy! =D
 
7:14 PM
These tags don't seem right to me. It's not PHP anyway.
 
Yeah true time to answer some, but now I will classify some comments, so another day...
 
@QPaysTaxes Oh, I missed the last sentence. Thanks. Good thing I asked. :-)
 
any way the title is different : ), that really unclear question...
@QPaysTaxes ooh no way, I'm the typo KING, english is just one of the 10 language I speak more or less... no need to be precis, it's just important that message arrives :D
These Americans and their english... mah or maybe it was the British...
 
7:30 PM
@PetterFriberg It's OK. The dern Mericans dun't speak it well, y'all
 
yeah build a wall, the Great Wall to keep Khan out
@BaummitAugen, @Machavity, @Adriaan, @Floern you need to close it again :D stackoverflow.com/questions/42319218/…
Ohh I love ping all @all
 
@PetterFriberg No more cv for today. :/
 
ok let me check it...
 
Can't we just Mjolnir?
 
@PetterFriberg you just trolled me :/ I searched everywhere how that question got reopened
turns out it's a new question
 
7:42 PM
lol, yeah a nice copy
 
@PetterFriberg sigh
 
@Floern btw Tuna has a nice timeline script that adds timelink link under question
 
@PetterFriberg already have that
but the "reopen" event didn't show up in it :P
 
:D, yeah that's strange... ask meta why timeline is broke
 
@PetterFriberg Was already closed. I voted to delete. Needs one more 20k
 
7:59 PM
Installing update...
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, it's a bit of a mess.
 
yeah but you are in right direction, if he/she only listens
 
Nope. They don't.
 
found the bug:
> Uncaught TypeError: user.listen is not a function
6
 
8:31 PM
@PetterFriberg Well, I gave up.
 
You did your best, its up to him if he like to listen or not (currently he's just angry with the other user), btw I also think if he asked what's wrong why does it not work, with a nice mcve it probably could be a good question, but time to move on...
 
9:05 PM
the code doesn't even compile
 
compile?
 
@Yam del-pls
@Tunaki I mean, it's not even close to valid syntax
 
It never is
 
9:54 PM
@JanDvorak to me not so bad... and it has 5000 question, look the other way
 
10:14 PM
Hello!
 
user1593881
Hello all.
 
user1593881
Keep on rocking in the free world.
 
user1593881
Hi tree. Wie geht es dir?
 
10:18 PM
o/
 
Gut gut. Und selbst?
 
user1593881
So so
 
english please in SO chat
 
user1593881
My high school German is a bit rusty.
 
user1593881
It has been a while.
 
user1593881
10:20 PM
@NobodyNada Hello cat, how are things across the ocean?
 
@RawN I'm well but busy
yesterday, by NobodyNada
@Sami I'm pretty busy though; my cousin is in the hospital because he got hit by a skier
 
user1593881
Well, hope everything works out fine.
 
@RawN Thank you! He's doing a lot better
 
user1593881
I am about to relocate and start working. Sadly. Somebody stop me.
 
user1593881
:p
 
10:22 PM
:p
 
Gtg, see you tomorrow.
Bye/
 
user1593881
Bye.
 
10:47 PM
@Makyen This has been bothering me for a little while. Every time I see your canned comment about providing a MCVE, I initially think it's a spam comment with all the excessive formatting. You may want to dial it down, so that it's more readable.
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dur
@JarrodRoberson: Why did you change the title? In my opinion the new one is not really much better.
 
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