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12:19 AM
@durron597 I have to rewrite the docs when I'm done moving.
 
12:58 AM
@TylerH Not so smart, for a StarFleet Captain.
 
 
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@durron597 Kind of looks like spam to me, though I can't be sure. A 1-rep user with a link to a commercial project seems kind of fishy, especially in an answer that isn't fleshed out very well.
 
@MaximillianLaumeister Eh, I'll just flag NAA.
 
An NAA flag might be declined, because it's not technically a link-only answer
You would probably have better luck with a spam flag
Although I guess maybe they both go into the same queue...?
 
Go ahead and spam it yourself
 
@durron597 Just spamflagged it myself, I'll be curious to see if the review queue agrees.
 
2:50 AM
Goodness, so much garbage tonight
I'm flagging more than once a minute and I'm chatting in another chatroom at the same time
AND I answered a question.
 
Haha speak of the devil
 
@MaximillianLaumeister NAA the crap never ends stackoverflow.com/a/32365205/1768232
 
@durron597 Oof. Flagged, and looking forward to earning my deputy badge! stackoverflow.com/users/2234742/…
 
@MaximillianLaumeister Here you go: stackoverflow.com/questions/27026111/…
Gotta love it from a 12k user: stackoverflow.com/questions/31599924/…
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A: Egit very slow at handling big projects

Makeety MakondoNot surprising. "Egit" is Irish for "moron! LOL

 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ votes dished out
And with that, good night Texas.
 
@LynnCrumbling Goodnight, Universal Shrimp Bus
 
HAHAHAHA
 
 
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5:36 AM
@Mogsdad Can't tell if honest mistake or trolling
Chris Pratt was not in Star Trek -_-
Google glass is doing this? Time to burninate google-gdk to show them who we are ಠ_ಠ — Bhargav Rao Aug 30 at 15:52
Lol
Maybe you'd get a diamond if you spot this stuff yourself :) — Robert Grant 16 hours ago
shots fired
 
 
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Yam
11:20 AM
Yam v2 started (debug).
 
@TylerH Sure he was, with Martin Freeman.
 
12:05 PM
Good morning
@Mogsdad congrats.
 
12:44 PM
morning!
 
This is why I think LifeHacks is a quality site (end sarcasm)
 
@gunr2171 it is not possible here to use electricity. We need non-electrical solutions. — Bay 7 hours ago
I wonder if he know they have paper towel dispensers that are mechanical.
 
From that link I made in my comment:
> It can either be operated by a handle or via automatic dispensation in response to a motion sensor.
It's like the second sentence
 
C'mon now. You have to know if the first sentence doesn't answer the question they are not going to read the rest. I think he stopped as soon as he saw the picture.
 
12:51 PM
true :)
 
That one is just sad
 
oh my god
 
The third link on google for always round up c++ has the answer.
 
"rounding" is that what you need?
 
Sam
Afternoon!
 
12:55 PM
yo
 
1:08 PM
@NathanOliver That's "Marshal Mogsdad" to you... (Thanks!)
 
Love that movie
 
I made the mistake of engaging with a disgruntled poster about burnination. Figured someone with 26K rep would know how the site works. Advice?
Pretty bent over 1 upvote...
 
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
@Mogsdad I would invite him here if he would like to discuss it. IDK why he is all bent out of shape. He will get the rep back and gets to keep the rep he gained.
 
1:21 PM
@NathanOliver I figured I would invite him. He seems to be a post & run user though - hasn't been on line when I've checked. He's from France, so only 6 hours ahead of me, so I'll watch... but hopefully he'll actually read some of the resources provided.
 
1:49 PM
@Mogsdad I would really leave this part out in future comments You've got all your rep answering questions, but you haven't spent much time on the moderation activities it seems It is up to any user how to spent their free time. That we are mad enough to hangout here and delete stuff doesn't mean others are obliged to do the same.
Nor can they be forced into that for that matter
 
@rene You're right - I overstepped.
Only wondering how he didn't understand the mechanisms.
 
@Mogsdad A lot of people don't know how the roomba works
But, you are allowed to upvote or downvote any post you want for any reason.
Except for serial voting, which this isn't.
 
@durron597 For the record, I didn't downvote his answer.
 
@Mogsdad If they are not bothered and don't care they will not know.
 
@rene Well, I've sanitized the comment now.
 
1:52 PM
@Mogsdad My point was not that, it was that if someone wants to do it, they'll do it, and he doesn't need or deserve any explanation.
 
@durron597 I've given that same advice... when was that? 2 days ago? Harder to keep in mind when it's me...
 
2:04 PM
new autocomment
I know you're excited, but please try to keep your language under control. Think of Stack Overflow as more like Wikipedia than like Reddit. — durron597 8 secs ago
 
ugh so bad
 
@durron597 Are you just running some sort of search or is it the 10K tools that lets you find bad post?
 
@NathanOliver 10k tools
 
blast
 
2:10 PM
@NathanOliver BUT, you can just watch new posts.
 
:C
 
/tools/new-answers-to-old-questions
 
@durron597 There are more there, as the 10k tools filters to answers on 30d+ old qs.
 
1.3k more rep to go. Shouldn't take to long.
 
2:12 PM
I like how the 10k tool presents itself. also there are a lot more good answers in your search than in mine.
 
@durron597 It's everything remember.
 
It's 9:20 AM after last night and this morning I've already spent over 80 flags. Sheesh
 
you should take some time to just use the site for a while
 
2:22 PM
@TylerH I have 156 rep today
@TylerH s/use the site/go outside/
 
not from any answers today though
 
@Mogsdad What does the N mean here? N'##Tag##'
 
@Deduplicator Name, AFAIK. Cloned from other queries.
@Deduplicator Doesn't seem to matter.
 
@Mogsdad Aren't a lot of these downvoted already?
 
2:30 PM
@Deduplicator specifies the sql type, it just reinforces that it's a unicode string, which doesn't matter much
 
@durron597 It's a SEDE query, so yes. All are.
 
Also, you don't have to join the tags table, just do tags like '%<source>%
 
Anyway, for that query SE's search is fully sufficient, and far more up-to-date: stackoverflow.com/…
Unless being a bit behind the curve was an important feature...
 
@Deduplicator Gotta remember to do duplicate:no because roomba doesn't get dupes.
 
@Deduplicator What I'm ultimately trying to do is get the answers for downvotes, too. Hmm. If we do "isanswer" does score switch to answer score?
Nope
 
@Deduplicator it means that the string is passed as nvarchar, and the string is considered to be in unicode
 
it should be called a uvarchar, for Unicode
 
back
 
@Deduplicator @gunr2171 Neither of those include answer scores that need downvoting. (unless I'm missing something?)
 
2:41 PM
no, they don't.
so what do you want to find? You need answers for closed questions?
 
@gunr2171 Which ones you talking about?
 
my fixed query (by fixed I mean fixed the formatting)
 
My SEDE, Mogs' SEDE, my SE query, your SEDE
 
@gunr2171 All posts that need downvotes for roomba. So, closed, not dup, exclude questions + answers where there is an accepted answer or any of the scores are > 5.
 
@Mogsdad My SEDE can accomodate that easily
 
2:44 PM
@Deduplicator So does mine, because I don't actually want to filter out locked questions
 
@Deduplicator ... I'm a SEDE N00B, with atrophied SQL skills...
 
My SEDE can beat up your SEDE
 
@TylerH Someone just had to say that.
 
naturally
 
@Deduplicator @durron597 There's a hush over the crowd as the two brave champions circle each other. Metaphorically. Who will be able to deliver first? Indeed, who will be able to deliver at all. You could cut the tension with a knife.
 
2:47 PM
lol
@Mogsdad Actually, I think staying with durrons idea of giving a lowest question-score worth considering, and a maximum number of results, is better than going for a maximum question-score.
 
@Deduplicator Everybody always wants drama, but you see how nice it is when we work together instead of getting in a pissing contest?
Eh, those sort of jokes work better in The Whiteboard where all the regulars are room owners.
 
@Deduplicator I don't think so; it's easy to see the score on questions, and the number of answers on a question. But to check the score on answers, we need to open every single question with an answer, and individually assess whether to invest any downvotes if there is even one popular answer. PITA.
@durron597 Ok, so neither of you are actually able to do it.
 
@Mogsdad The times where a question has low score but an answer has high score are an outlier case.
 
@Mogsdad Did you look at durron's SEDE or my adaptation of it? That data is already in the output for your consideration.
 
@durron597 True - which is why we need to look at every case.
 
2:53 PM
We have enough delete votes that I'm not worried about it. We still have 80 open questions in the "close top priority" query; we'll get enough deletes by 10 days from now.
 
@Deduplicator Apologies... looked again and played with #answers. The summed scores do identify all the votes needed.
@Deduplicator It includes deleted questions, btw. Was that intentional?
 
There's also MichaelT's version, which I just modified to allow tag filtering
 
@Mogsdad It only includes questions deleted since the last data-dump, as that's the freshest data available. Nothing I can do about.
Getting it refreshed more often than once every week would be nice ... (whistfully).
 
@Deduplicator Ah, yeah. Should have realized that.
 
SEDE starts to become pretty useless for moderation by around thursday.
 
3:01 PM
@Deduplicator Could translate into a query for an app, no? Without authentication, would be limited to 100 (1000?) queries a day.
 
@Mogsdad Don't quite know. In theory, one could use the data (from up to a week ago) as a base-line, and then integrate updates from the live site.
Because I don't think the site's API allows this type of query.
 
@Deduplicator Doesn't look like it.
@Deduplicator Would be left with querying the whole tag with a filter that included counts, then processing yourself.
 
@Mogsdad 300, but registering an app is free and gives you 10.000 calls per day
 
This is not an answer it is a question. If you are going to ask a question use the Ask Question button. In you current form the question would be closed as you are providing no information but a code dump. If you have a code question make sure you have an Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable exampleNathanOliver 17 secs ago
 
@durron597 i believe you are looking for "fucked up"
 
@durron597 Not an answer? :)
 
He has a second answer there too, also copy pasting. I custom flagged one and NAAed the other
 
> This user is repeatedly copy-pasting various sections of this question back into the question itself, they clearly have little idea what is going on. See This other answer for the same thing.
And I'm out of flags, and it's not even 10:30 AM.
Maybe I should, you know, do some work.
 
3:26 PM
@misterManSam its also a duplicate
 
@durron597 100 flags so fast? hm...
 
@cimmanon - not suprised
 
@durron597 Eww. That sounds... gross.
 
@Deduplicator Well I used 41 flags last night after reset
 
@durron597 Work is overrated. Congratulate yourself with a Cuban and some Brandy.
 
3:31 PM
cu later
 
later
 
I kinda... want to close the older pseudo element question as well.
 
@durron597 - Big language barrier to jump over with that one
 
@misterManSam Agreed
 
3:45 PM
crap
@durron597 did I invalidate your flags
I reflagged as VLQ just in case
 
@TylerH nope, not that time
 
phew
 
I've been flagging link only as NAA recently. I've been told to do so on meta a few times recently, plus it seems more reliable to keep the flag intact after an edit.
 
@Mogsdad I'm not sure which one has better answers
the dupe or the target
 
@TylerH Me neither, not in my wheelhouse. Went by votes.
 
3:49 PM
@TylerH @mogsdad neither.
Use this
 
@durron597 ^^^ Better.
 
PS @Mogsdad It's been way longer than 2.5 hours and that question is still closed
looks like you lost first :-)
 
@TylerH I was going by the previous reopen (Anna's). I never guess the number of jelly beans in the jar, either...
 
Yeah I thought for sure there were nowhere near as many peanut M&Ms as they said there were
 
Still, it may end up as a historical / protected question.
 
3:52 PM
@Mogsdad a historical lock is fine and actually what I prefer (my drafted Meta question asks for that)
so long as it's not open :-)
 
@TylerH I'm sure no one has noticed. just tweet at aalear, then we'll see some action.
 
no way
I'm gonna let it fade
 
@misterManSam I actually knew the answer to that!
 
If we ban "problem" why don't we also ban "issue"?
 
huh?
 
3:58 PM
@Mogsdad - Ahh, it's "clear like water" now
 
@durron597 You mean in question titles? It does seem kind of arbitrary.
 
@durron597 the title filter introduced more pr0blams then it solved...
 
bad titles sometimes make it easy to spot bad questions, no?
 
maybe something like "I can't issue a new certificate" would get banned
@misterManSam nothing says "great question" like a title that reads "PLEASE HELP URGENT"
 
Java people... To me, this question is "unclear". The answer... by God, no less... is "RTFM". Is it close-worthy?
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Q: Unable to create java files using this jar

ChuckyTotal n00b question. Basically, I've been given these instructions: *Remote Tea is ONC RPC implementation for Java contains code generator, ONC runtime and portmapper Remote Tea consists of jrpcgen.jar oncrpc.jar portmap.jar Assuming JAR files are in current working directory linux% java ...

@Chucky: Please try to change that. It's incredibly disrespectful for those who you're asking to answer your question - you're basically saying that you think their time is worth less than yours. Always do research before asking a question. — Jon Skeet Sep 29 '12 at 18:19
 
4:06 PM
791
Q: What is the n+1 selects issue?

Lars A. BrekkenThe problem is often mentioned in object-relation mapping discussions, and I understand that it has something do to with having to make a lot of database queries for something that seems simple in the object world. Does anybody have a more detailed--but simple--explanation of the problem?

 
I like it JUST for that comment.
 
@Mogsdad I almost want to flag the "ask first, google much later" as rude / offensive ;)
 
@durron597 DO IT! hehe
... Love how Jon Skeet's badge count no longer fits in his Flair.
 
@Siguza It's actually off site resource. actually I guess both are correct.
> Is there a good reference somewhere that can be used as an authoritative source for this, or is it really random - up to each individual developer?
 
4:24 PM
@Deduplicator Boom. Curious... I've been saying "CNR" (Can Not Reproduce) on such requests; Has that been clear to you guys? I don't see anyone else using it, so I wonder. It's the standard on our ClearQuest installation.
 
@Mogsdad Well, I will probably get shorter.
 
@Mogsdad boom. second one needs one more
 
@Deduplicator As you age, you mean? Happened to my dad. Try lifts in your shoes.
 
@Mogsdad just type r
't': 'too broad',
'u': 'unclear',
'p': 'pob',
'd': 'duplicate',
'm': 'no mcve',
'r': 'no repro',
's': 'superuser',
'f': 'serverfault',
'l': 'library/tool/resource',
'g': 'gimme-teh-codez',
 
4:43 PM
@cimmanon So you're the person not using the CV Request Autogeneration One-keystroke Tool!
 
@Mogsdad is it a requirement?
 
@cimmanon Absolutely. We all do everything exactly the same way. No originality allowed.
 
@Mogsdad I've tried and failed. She's not interested.
 
@durron597 "... we've already got one, you see..."
 
4:50 PM
deleted answer from 91k rep user: stackoverflow.com/a/32377926/1652962
 
@cimmanon oh that's just YCS
 
@cimmanon can you post a screen shot for us lowly mortals?
 
> So, you have time for adding useless function for the every query, but have no time to change the query.
@durron597 does he always do this?
 
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Q: Why, on a programming site, most basic programming principles always ignored?

Your Common SenseI wanted to ask this question long time ago. There are some principles that are so basic to the degree of banality. Yet, for some reason, they almost never followed by Stack Overflow "community" (quoting because there is no actual community yet) Some of these principles are Never trust to us...

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Q: A Chain of Incompetence or How Stack Overflow Actually Works

Your Common SenseWant to see how Stack Overflow actually works? I'll be delighted to show you, not by empty declarations from the help pages but from the very practical field examples. Case #1. Here comes along a professional programmer, consultant who offers his service for hire, who decided to consult this ti...

I think he was banned for over a year at one point; @rene can tell you more
 
I see Vlad From Moscow got banned for his voting habits.
 
5:02 PM
@cimmanon He added another one. No impulse control. stackoverflow.com/a/32378077/1677912
 
@Mogsdad that one is arguably more useful than the other one
 
@cimmanon Marginally. Passes the "is it an answer" test. Too much editorial to be a good answer.
 
@cimmanon Yes, the colonel is a special character. I think his goal similar to ours. Only the path towards that is.... direct, in a straight line, with a lot of collateral damage and disgruntled users. In the end the php tag will be cleaned of crap...and users....
 
5:24 PM
I've pushed 20 more questions into the close vote review queue. Just 279 more to review...
 
@rene i think the only way to end the crap in the php tag is to build a delorian and go back in time and prevent the language from being created in the first place :p
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@cimmanon At the very least, make sure everyone uses HipHop.
 
I'll fix the flux-capacitor...
 
Wow you can actually buy one. wfaa.com/story/features/2015/01/24/…
@Mogsdad How did that get an upvote?
 
5:39 PM
@durron597 we wouldnt need HipHop if PHP didnt exist in the first place
 
@cimmanon followed shortly by Haskell :-P
 
@NathanOliver Common behavior of FGITW answering.
 
You haven't started working on those methods yet? Or did you copied the initial version and forgot to add your own work? — rene 58 secs ago
 
review please: Needs Four
 
@benjibenji do realize we shouldn't be a code-writing service, although some users think it is OK to do your work. — rene 44 secs ago
 
5:56 PM
Duplicate of what? — asma 1 min ago
Duplicate of a question with the exact title of the error you're getting. — durron597 18 secs ago
 
^^ is that an incorrectly blacklisted user?
 
maybe. it's a bad report, the question was made months ago
so the blacklist is sort of invalid
 
Smokey must be smoking some good stuff then.
 
@NathanOliver account is suspended..
 
6:13 PM
@rene ah okay.
 
oh, missed that
 
@TylerH what about haskell? i cant entirely blame all of the crap that ends up in the haskell tag on the language. the crap you see on SO is the direct result of poor documentation for a complicated language
 
Apr 24 at 21:50, by TylerH
The Haskell community on Stack Overflow exists just to create audit questions for Review queues.
that's the on-going joke
 
6:29 PM
Could someone flag this as NAA? Mine was marked helpful but the answer wasn't deleted, even though it's clearly NAA. stackoverflow.com/a/32348741/3093387
 
@cimmanon Is it really easier for you to type out , copy/paste the question, and then write (unclear) rather than typing Ctrl + Shift + A, u, <enter>?
Or is it that you don't want to install any userscripts?
 
@durron597 i wont remember
 
@josilber Out of flags, have been for three hours.
 
@durron597 Haha going too hard on the new answers to old questions queue :)
 
@josilber Can't be "too" hard, I have 99 helpful flags and one pending today
 
6:32 PM
@durron597 Nice!
 
@josilber boom
 
@cimmanon (just some commentary, not judging) so it seems the question is clear, but the person doesn't know which tools they can use. Wonder if there is a meta post about that.
and then "boom"
 
@gunr2171 its a vague "refactor my code" request, they dont specify what they want, just "easier" or "better"
 
true. I voted too broad
not enough requirements, plus it would be good to know how the existing code didn't meet their expectations
 
i have a meta post specifically about DRY requests
 
6:35 PM
@NathanOliver Thanks!
 
Actually it's more than 99 helpful flags because I have some comment flags in there too
 
@durron597 So, you've got 99 problems?
 
@gunr2171 But a bitch ain't one.
 
we here on Stack Overflow don't gender discriminate. "But a user ain't one."
:P
 
Are tag badges updating instantaneously?
@gunr2171 Okay your tag score in java is 2.
 
6:38 PM
@durron597 good question. i have closed questions as dupes before i realized i had earned the gold badge (the notification hadnt popped up yet)
 
I just upvoted you. Let's see if it goes to three.
 
reviewing
oh yeah, the one java answer that has nothing to do with java
 
Okay, maybe it's not instantaneously, but I know I had 93 tag score in swing earlier and now I have 94 with one new answer.
@cimmanon They used to run once a day, but the problem was broken not that long ago
 
@durron597 no they take at least a couple hours
 
@TylerH They used to, last month
But I'm wondering if they changed something.
 
6:45 PM
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@gunr2171 yes I thought it was cool they did a Stack Overflow comic
@durron597 My bounty has doubled the question's upvotes and views, but still no answer, unfortunately, and it ends in 10 hours :-(
I should've done 400.
 
@TylerH Can always bounty it again... hard to get your 10k that way though.
 
yeah
 
> You voted to close this question yesterday
x2
 
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