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2:47 AM
@HostileFork sounds like a good plan. Hopefully we can stop accepting new issues in CC as well as add in a redirection/info page. Not sure who can do that. Given my busy calendar it may be better to do between Xmas and the New Year when I have some leave.
 
@johnk I don't think any issues (or comments) have been added since the last one I added, which was picked up by the import.
 
@HostileFork at that rate we can always sync manually until we find someone to set it read only
@HostileFork re the ren-c bot. I'll push up my debug code to a gist (hopefully tonight) so you can play as the normal rebolbot code will not run without mods.
I'll try and make a small reproducible module loading case with a cut down version
 
@johnk Great, I will look into it. Currently deep in a large type-safety and naming change that is taking longer than I thought. Lots of source changes, hopefully not much behavior changes.
But the point I was trying to make about why ANY-BLOCK! is a bad name for the category to which BLOCK! and PATH! and GROUP! (paren!) belong is demonstrated all over. Tons of routines getting mixed up on whether they are operating on something that is restricted to being just a block or if it should apply to all of them.
I gave bind as one example, where if you have a paren you should be able to rebind it... not needing to convert it to a block and then bind and then back. But these examples are all over.
>> to block! any-string!
 
3:03 AM
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== [string! file! email! url! tag!]
 
>> to paren! any-string!
 
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== (make typeset! [string! file! email! url! tag!])
 
>> to path! any-string!
 
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== make typeset! [string! file! email! url! tag!]
 
I say better answers are (string! file! email! url! tag!) and string!/file!/email!/url!/tag!
red> to block! any-string!
 
3:05 AM
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*** Script error: to does not allow typeset for its type argument
*** Where: to
*** Stack: do-console all not unset? set do first head reduce do* _execute if all not unset? set do first head reduce do* to
 
 
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4:32 AM
In the "exemplar" mindset, I think maybe #[()] is "paren!", #[[]] is "block!", #[0] is "integer", #[0.0] is float, etc. This runs up against the #[+] #[-] #[?] #[_] idea and suggests those need to be different. Maybe #<+> #<-> #<?> #<_> ?
 
 
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7:06 AM
>> help at
 
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USAGE:
    AT series index

DESCRIPTION:
    Returns the series at the specified index.
    AT is an action value.

ARGUMENTS:
    series (series! gob! port!)
    index (number! logic! pair!)
 
>> help skip
 
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USAGE:
    SKIP series offset

DESCRIPTION:
    Returns the series forward or backward from the current position.
    SKIP is an action value.

ARGUMENTS:
    series (series! gob! port!)
    offset (number! logic! pair!)
 
>> at (skip [a b c d e] 3) 2
 
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== [e]
 
7:09 AM
The concepts overlap a lot, they're both relative to the current position. It would seem a better split if there were an absolute and relative operation, e.g. that would be [b c d e] if AT were absolute
 
 
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3:52 PM
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Hello When i do this to-local-file %/C/YOURNAME.txt í dont know where to find that txtfile... Greetings zdubair.com.se

 
 
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10:10 PM
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Q: Refreshing Shared Copyright Dates in Apache 2.0 Licensed Code

HostileForkI'm working with a formerly closed-source project whose official first release under that product name was in 1997. Development on it slowed and was abandoned, then released as Apache 2.0 in 2012. The copyright dates in the file headers of that open source publication said: Copyright 2012 PROJ...

@giuliolunati Do not bother trying to merge your code against my recent changes if you don't want to! Just get your branch where you are happy with it and I will do the merge to bring it up to date and give it back to you. :-)
 
10:46 PM
@HostileFork you're very kind, but I don't want to charge you of that. You're working very hard! ATM I'm working on mold stack and I am sync'ed with you (successfully rebased).
 
@giuliolunati Okay, well don't be afraid to ask if you need something! Right now I am trying to firm up headers and documentation before I do too much push into new development... I really do want to make it so that things are ready to be able to bring in new developers vs. hinge everything on me! So good for you to keep being a guinea pig and say where the most work is needed to help devs get their bearings...
@giuliolunati I am leaning toward thinking that a value will have a KIND and a TYPE. The KIND of value will be its basic type, like INTEGER! or OBJECT!. But the TYPE of a value may come back as an OBJECT! for a user defined type. This means that TYPE-OF would be generally compatible with what we think of today, except for a user-defined type you would get an instance of an object rather than the datatype OBJECT!.
 
@HostileFork seems good
 
What we might consider is that TYPE! be another kind of context (like ERROR!), that can have properties describing the type... its name, maximum value, minimum value, etc.
 

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