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7:00 PM
@mikedidthis all new array methods and Function methods (.bind) are slow
not slow slow. but not 20 million ops
 
@ZachSaucier :backs out of CSS slowly:
 
ha, yeah slow isn't really slow.
 
fast enough for the modern web, not fast enough for intense performance critical stuff (like physics engines)
 
@TylerH most the time we don't have to mess with the transform matrix, but in extreme cases we do :P
 
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in other cases you ask Neo
 
7:02 PM
:( fuck me running. I just wrote a shitload of js that can be replaced with a single transition rule.
 
@rlemon glad to know the noob method (the one I'd think of) is the fastest
@rlemon Welcome to CSS!
 
new Array(1000) isn't optimal
 
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it's just too many years that i don't watch matrix :|
 
var arr = [] is better
 
7:02 PM
@rlemon I would think the declaring the memory upfront would be faster though
 
new comes with its own overhead
proof is in the pudding
it is very low level, but it is another couple operations v8 has to do
because you used new - whereas [] is immediately understood.
 
is there no way to declare [] of length 1000?
 
var arr = [];
arr.length = 1000;
 
kk, was wondering if there was another way
 
or var arr = [,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,/*1001 of these*/]
;)
 
7:05 PM
xD
 
var x = [];
var i = 1000;
while(i--) {
  x[i] = i+1;
}
 
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@rlemon convenient
 
:D
 
Out of boredom.
 
@mikedidthis yea that would perform faster
.length has to calculate the length of the array on every pass in ours
it isn't a horrible performance drop, but it does happen.
 
7:06 PM
ja, I always make a variable for for loop's length before hand
 
which is why it is recommended to cache your lengths
 
@rlemon life advice
 
for( var index = 0, length = array.length; index < length; index++ )
 
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!!>for(var x = []; x.length <= 1000; x.push(x.length)); x;
 
@ObiWanWesabi [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,2‌​9,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,5‌​6,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,8‌​3,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107‌​,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,1 (snip)
 
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7:07 PM
that's the best imho
 
@ZachSaucier I prefer to do it in the for loop itself. then the variables are encapsulated into the block
 
valid point, I'll start using it
 
index and length don't pollute the parent scope
!!youtube God Don't Make Lonely Girls - The Wallflowers
country-ish
 
if you guys appreciate that kinda music ;)
 
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7:10 PM
is that the band of bob dylan's son?
 
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@ObiWanWesabi yes
 
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:P
 
jesus that's a lot of complication just to consider for an array of 1000 numbers
 
@TylerH tl;dr you were doing it right the first time :D
 
@Mr.Alien You asked me for that maybe a month ago ^
 
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7:12 PM
@TylerH use case? coz one doesn't often fill an array that way
 
Why do they rate it on a scale of 1.0 to 7.9?
That's...odd
 
@ObiWanWesabi creating an array so I can run a binary search on it
 
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@TylerH how?
 
well I'm trying to do simple exercises to learn JS
and one was "do a binary search for a randomly-chosen number from an array of 1 to 1000"
so first I have to create an array
 
@SomeGuy dude ouch
 
7:15 PM
As Carl Sagan said, "if you want to bake an apple pie, first you must invent the universe."
 
dat cpu... bringing me down
 
@TylerH you just carry on man, you are doing fine.
 
only an i5
 
actually shit, I don't think i'm currently overclocking it
I can probably get that up to a 7.9
 
7:16 PM
@SomeGuy turn aero off.
 
I can overclock it to 4.2ghz without additional cooling, but I didn't like the idea of stressing my chip
 
@rlemon I don't think I even know how to access that in Windows 8... or if it even exists?
 
my computer -> properties?
 
@rlemon Windows 8 doesn't have my computer
 
damn, now I wanna overclock my pc when I get home and see if I can get 7.9 across the board
not that it matters.
 
7:18 PM
they ruined Windows as best they could forcing everyone into a touch-screen environment w/ Windows 8
 
yea i'm sticking with 7
 
me too
 
7 is the new xp. people will be using it 12 years from now
 
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@rlemon if that rating was reliable, my computer would be close to yours xD
 
wish I had bought a few copies of Windows 7 clean install when they were still selling it
they're selling on Amazon and eBay for like $600 a pop now
 
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7:19 PM
it's a core2quad 6600 clocked at 3200mhz
 
@TylerH why not just copy it?
ah, resale
 
@ZachSaucier what do you mean?
 
16gb ram, GeForce 770, 480gb SSD, and i5 2500k
 
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score is 5.7
 
@TylerH can clone any drive...
 
7:20 PM
I mean including the activation keys n' stuff
 
but the 2500K overclocks well to 4.2 with no additional heat management required
 
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but other values are 7.2
 
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5.7 because of the hdd, which is a velociraptor tho
 
I've used the same copy of Windows 7 for myself for 5~ years now (across as many drives), just wanted more so I could sell 'em :-P
 
I just want to max out the windows experience :P
 
7:21 PM
I just want to take a nap
 
:P
 
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@rlemon get a glass wall then
 
and now to make everyone jelly. I didn't pay for that setup - work did.
minus the GPU
 
@mikedidthis I would, but I don't find Windows to be slow at all
 
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jelly indeed
 
7:23 PM
The test may make it look like it
But it runs pretty well for me
 
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my computer at work was nasa level :(
 
@SomeGuy me too. I was just wondering if it would bump you to 5.2 as I disabled aero.
 
why does IE suck so much with mouse location :(
 
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@ZachSaucier you know the answer already xD because IE
 
user652649
code?
 
@rlemon I use an integrated graphics card, so I couldn't expect a better rating :p
 
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@TylerH ahaha
 
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that's a glorious sun
 
Oddly, this was the first computer I paid for all by myself
 
7:25 PM
And you didn't pay for most of yours
 
I hate to say it, but I don't think I have ever paid for a computer.
That's pretty sad.
 
@mikedidthis that's nice
 
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@ZachSaucier scrollX = document.body.scrollLeft || document.documentElement.scrollLeft
 
@mikedidthis How?
 
@ObiWanWesabi I remember when microchips first got big and Sun MicroSystems was the new hip player
our school gave the students ID cards with microchips in them
and we inserted the ID cards/badges into the computer to log on
and pulled them out when we wanted to log off
it was pretty cool at the time
 
7:27 PM
@SomeGuy I don't really know. My current desktop was a gift. My MBP was an exchange for some work.
 
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so cool
 
@ObiWanWesabi that's not the part I need fixed xD
 
@SomeGuy I payed for many computers before this
:P
 
I built my first total computer as a graduation present from high school. Since then I've just switched out parts to upgrade it as time has gone on
 
Boss: Hey, you've been working from home a lot?
Me: Yea, but I don't mind.
Boss: Take the Credit Card and buy yourself a new PC, try to keep it reasonable (for him that means <$2k)
 
7:28 PM
That's nice of him
 
the only part that's still the same from May 2008 is the $9 Logitech mouse
 
tax writeoff ;)
 
Mine cost $1k
 
small company in growth stage.
yea, mine all in right now is like $1700
 
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7:29 PM
maybe more actually
 
Tyler's computer is like the Ship of Theseus
Is it the same computer?
 
I'm not counting my HDD's just my SSD's
 
Yeah, same here
I reused my old HDD
 
well yea, but I bought a new 2TB WD
 
Apart from that, everything is new now
Haha
 
7:30 PM
my pc has so much memory it is sickening :P
 
I don't have 1 TB with every HDD I own put together
 
I think I do still have the original secondary HDD in my computer
 
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@ZachSaucier mise version?
 
480gb SSD, 256gb SSD, 2*1TB WD, 2TB WD, and 2*2TB WD ext drives (mind you one is at work more often than home)
 
Holy shit
That's insane!
 
7:31 PM
I've filled maybe 2TB total.
 
Hahaha
 
I've got a 250GB SSD, a 1TB WD, a 500GB WD, and a 250GB WD
 
Explains how you can afford to run an image scraper :p
 
the 250GB and the 500GB are empty atm
 
7:32 PM
I also have a 60gb SSD, but i'm donating that to @Loktar
@SomeGuy and I pay for unlimited bandwidth ;) so yea. scraping stuff isn't a concern for bandwidth or space ;)
 
I've got unlimited bandwidth too, but the space it'd take up would concern me so hard :p
I find it hard to keep 1 GB free on my hard drives
120GB SSD, 400GB HDD, 250GB HDD
The 250GB one has space, but it's a different computer that I don't use
 
@SomeGuy throw it in the one you do use!
 
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@ZachSaucier this seem to work for me jsfiddle.net/ChhUn/1
 
@TylerH My dad's been saying he wants that computer for about 2 years
 
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@rlemon what would you suggest as an alternative to i5 4590? in the same range of price (i'm going cheap currently)
 
7:37 PM
So maybe I will
 
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i shouldn't have bought that water matress :(
 
@ObiWanWesabi hmmmm. Need to find out what the problem is then xD
 
@SomeGuy his loss if he comes and picks it up without the hard drive.. "but dad, you didn't say you wanted the computer while it still had the hard drive inside!"
@ObiWanWesabi Intel != going cheap
 
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yea but intel == reliable
 
okay
 
7:38 PM
so are AMDs
 
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and that's why i asked :P
 
AMD = reliable too :-P
 
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@mikedidthis best chipset for that cpu you suggested?
 
if you're gonna be gaming on ultraHD or running PC Mark 06, sure get an Intel
otherwise you're really just wasting your money for performance you'll never see
 
@ObiWanWesabi no clue. I need to re-introduce myself to the processors of today
 
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7:40 PM
@TylerH i had more amds than intels. just saying what was told me, that amd currently is doing bad-ish
 
Hello all! :D
 
For comparable performance you're gonna pay >= 2x for Intel as for AMD
just like Mac vs PC
 
Does anyone know of a Chrome web app that has a HTML previewer built in?
 
you could get a Macbook Pro for $2000 or you could get three Windows 8 laptops for less
 
@Iplodman why not use Chrome to preview?
 
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7:44 PM
@TylerH ok. what would you suggest for mobo + cpu + ram, 500$ total? disk and other things not included
 
@ZachSaucier Chromebooks can't do that (They operate off of Drive).
 
@Iplodman you can't open an HTML file on a Chromebook? I find that hard to believe
 
mobo + cpu are up to you really, just get ones that work well together and meet your desires as far as # of cores, clock speed, and cache amounts. For RAM I always recommend G.Skill
DDR3 1600MHz these days
 
@ZachSaucier You can, but it only opens as the text, as it's through Google Drive.
 
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best chipset for todays amd?
 
7:46 PM
2x4GB will cost you like $70 - $80
 
still doesn't make sense that it wouldn't to me
 
@ObiWanWesabi Vishera probably
 
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corsair value for life. i don't need extreme timings, but reliability
 
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ok, checking
 
@ObiWanWesabi never had any bad experiences for G.Skill
I get them for reliability, not for timings
 
7:47 PM
@ZachSaucier It just shows this.
Hold on a sec.
 
because their low timing sticks are either super expensive or have ridiculously huge heatsinks
I like the low profile sticks
 
@ZachSaucier sorry, loooong meeting. what are you comparing it to?
 
@CarrieKendall the one the bot uses, as that's what gave the 57.something value
 
!!stat
 
@CarrieKendall You (http://stackoverflow.com/users/998328/carrie-kendall) have 3051 reputation, earned 360 rep today, asked 10 questions, gave 43 answers, for a q:a ratio of 10:43.
avg. rep/post: 57.56. Badges: 0g 13s 39b
 
7:50 PM
600 rep from bounties so
i'd imagine that's pretty close
 
@ZachSaucier imgur.com/aBhJ9f4
That. ^
 
@CarrieKendall shit, when did you get up to 3k so fast
 
@Iplodman I understand what a text file looks like :P I'm curious why you can't do something like "Open With" once you download it
 
@ZachSaucier Chromebooks are very limited. Let me try something.
 
@Iplodman that is the correct behaviour with google drive.
 
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7:53 PM
@mikedidthis was checking also AMD FX-9370 8 Core 4.4GHz L3-8MB Piledriver skAM3+ Black Edition
 
@mikedidthis I know it is.
 
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@TylerH do you know percentage of overclock success with these days amds?
 
to render the html, download the page and open it in chrome?
 
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(i take overclock success as a parameter of reliability)
 
@ObiWanWesabi on the black series, high. They are sold to be overclocked.
 
7:55 PM
@ObiWanWesabi no but probably 100% or close to it
it's hard to mess up overclocking when these days all the cpus come with software to do it for you
and what mike said, black editions are made for unlocking and overclocking
@mikedidthis lol, I'm the one guy buying an nVidia card with an AMD processor
 
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well, i could do overclock, if it's made sensibly :P
 
@mikedidthis What do you mean?
 
@TylerH <3
 
I had an FX 5200 for so long
then upgraded to a 6100 so I could play the "Oldblivion" port for cards that couldn't handle TES: IV Oblivion
then to a GT 220 1GB
and now I'm at a GTX 650 Ti
 
I have SLI GTS 250s as I found one at a car boot for £15.
@ObiWanWesabi from what it seems, the AMD FX-8350 can go from 4 to 4.5ghz without much hassle.
 
7:59 PM
dunno what a car boot is but that sounds sweet
 
@TylerH yard sale in a big field. Swap yard for boot of your car.
 
@Iplodman tl;dr - you can't do it
 
@mikedidthis honestly I don't see anyone who needs 4GHz from a single core in day to day life
or ever
 
not without doing stupid ass shit
document.querySelector('.drive-viewer-text-content').innerHTML
 

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