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6:04 PM
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6:24 PM
Installing Mario Live Background:
This app requires permission to look at your contact list.
This app requires permission to make phone calls.
This app ...........
it's true @Feeds
it's bullshit
 
people who download a flashlight app which needs SMS, GeoLocation, contact list access, all deserve to have their info siphoned off and stole. There are plenty of alternative apps which don't ask for excess permissions, but people never bother to check perms and download the most 'popular' one by default.
 
6:40 PM
posted on December 17, 2014 by Chris Coyier

I picked me up a copy of Lara Hogan's new book Designing for Performance (Amazon), as it's a subject I've very interested in these days. As I write this, I'm just off the heels of doing quite a bit of performance related work here on CSS-Tricks as well as on CodePen. I thought I'd give the book a read, learn some more, and be inspired to do some more. Here's some choice quotes and how they re

 
Does any of you work with adapting the website for the screen resolution?
 
@Gemtastic you mean responsive layouts?
 
@crypticツ I mean like depending on what screen you have it adapts to that
I'm not actually sure what it means
 
@media quires ?
responsive websites resize depending on screen size
media queries work with default screen sizes that you set
 
I thought it was that the site somehow measures what size the window is and adapts what kind of site to show
 
6:50 PM
@Gemtastic Responsiveness
 
@skibbi_bizzle Is that the business standard nowadays?
 
what are fluid layouts then?
 
When I learned how to web-optimize, it was for people with dial ups and 600x800 res
 
Fluid - responsive... same thing as far as I know
 
what about elastic layouts?
 
6:51 PM
fluid used to mean elastic
responsive uses breakpoints, fluid/elastic is all percentage based and scales along with your browser without breakpoints
 
its like we called a fixed site a static site :/
 
but those are probably archaic definitions
nowadays you should use a combination of both and just call it responsive
 
^ Do what he says :D
He is a lot smarter than I are
 
@StephanMuller Does the responsive site decide to use a different CSS if the screen is too small (ex. for a phone)?
 
if done efficiently, it only adds a small handful of rules for certain screen sizes
not an entirely new stylesheet
 
6:54 PM
I'm mostly curious as to what you actually do. I'm down with the tools (I think) I jsut don't know what people do nowadays
 
Both the "elastic" and "liquid" layouts in Dreamweaver are actually relative layouts. The developers of Dreamweaver probably wanted to give users the freedom to choose between "em" and "%" as the unit of measurement for a fluid layout. As such they decided to call the relative layout that uses em an "elastic" layout, and the layout that uses percent a "liquid" layout.
@crypticツ So there you have it
 
People still use Dreamweaver?
 
Dreamweaver was the standard back then apparently
 
/have used dreamweaver since 2009
 
also, in my experience it's best not to pre-define your breakpoints (aka saying 320 will be mobile, 600 will be tablet, etc).

it's a lot better to start with a mobile site that utilizes some percentages to grow along with the screen size. Then resize the screen slowly and at a certain point when the layout looks ugly you set a breakpoint and add as little rules as you need to make it look good again
if that means you get a breakpoint at 581px, so be it.
that way you don't build for screens or devices, but you just build one site that always looks good on any screen size ever imaginable :P
 
6:55 PM
@StephanMuller That is actually an awesome point
 
Do you know any tutorials of how it's done? Or does anyone care to walk me through it by showing me a simple fiddle?
 
@Gemtastic @StephanMuller or @mikedidthis would be able to give you good points on this... @BasementKeyboardHero as well
 
@StephanMuller this is what I tell people
 
6:57 PM
@TylerH Really good advice
 
@StephanMuller sharing is caring~
 
ah yes brad frost
I think he's the one who convinced me of this way of working in the first place
 
 
user image
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lel rude
 
7:00 PM
Hahaha
 
http://files.litso.com/ebooks/
@Gemtastic uploading a bunch of A Book Apart ebooks as we speak
 
@StephanMuller Thank you!
 
hold on a few minutes before downloading
I'll ping you when done
I also included a nice picture for you to enjoy
 
I'm gonna make a webshop as my final project in this course, and it's gonna go live so I want it to look good on all devices. I know the people who shops at her place have smartphones and tablets.
 
...and done, enjoy
 
7:02 PM
Though quite frankly... anything would be better than what she has today...
 
who is "she"?
The client?
 
@StephanMuller Which one do you specifically recommend for this purpouse? I'm not new to HTML or CSS
@TylerH Yes
 
responsive web design, followed by mobile first
 
It's a freebee though
 
7:03 PM
responsible responsive design is brand new, haven't had time to check it yet
 
I will look at it later
 
they're all relatively thin books, so don't worry
 
Well, that's good
Since I also have to read this JSP bull >_>
 
what is a JSP bull
 
A book about how to make MVC servlets with JSP. It's backend
 
7:05 PM
oh java server pages
for just a moment I was thinking about an actual bull
 
When i said I was gonna make a webshop, I really meant making the webshop
 
posted on December 17, 2014

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I left out the shit, I forgot that I'm in the EAD chat :P
!!tell Gemtastic ead
 
@Gemtastic Command ead does not exist. Did you mean: sad (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
 
Hmm maybe I did it wrong
 
7:07 PM
wat
someone removed it?
 
o/
 
PFFFFTTT BWAHAHA
 
ok, question folks. I'm writing a php script that fetches a random filename from a huge list in a database. The names are all descriptive, and I want to select a filename based on whether it contains certain words.

so say I fetch myscript.php?filter=holiday+france I want to fetch one random filename that contains both words.

how should I approach this? do I just query based on the filename (seems inefficient), or should I somehow save meta information about the filenames beforehand?

the list of words on which I want to filter won't exceed 10, but I also don't think adding 10 bool column
 
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@StephanMuller write a distributed map reduce function in erlang
 
7:12 PM
@rlemon I was hoping to not have to learn yet another language, using php and mysql is already enough of a challenge for me :P
!!ead
 
@StephanMuller Input not matching /a/. Help: User-taught command: dick. Eat
 
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@StephanMuller probably gotta be /ead instead
 
@rlemon haha ok
I'll find a place where people don't have shit for brains and ask this question again
 
7:15 PM
well arn't you a big old ray of fucking sunshine
it isn't that we have shit for brains, it is just that we don't give a shit ;)
 
@StephanMuller hahaha best :D
 
@rlemon speak for yourself
I have to plunge my brain regularly
 
He speaks for me for certain :/
 
@StephanMuller How will you know what are words?
 
7:16 PM
@TylerH eat less fiber?
 
Do they all have spaces or underscores in the names?
 
@joshhunt I keep a list of certain words that I can filter on
yeah, names will be uniform
probably lowercase and hyphen-separated
 
@StephanMuller mysql makes baby jesus cry :-(
 
postgres FTW
 
@cimmanon ^ I want to star this more than once :D
 
7:17 PM
@cimmanon it's just a simple hobby project that requires a bit of serverside coding, so I'm afraid I'm going to stick to the things I already at least have a little experience in :P
 
check out psql
it is easy to get into from any other query language
and it is the bees knees
 
maybe later
you know how it goes with side projects, if I don't focus on what I actually want to accomplish it'll probably never get finished
 
just make promises to a bunch of people about when it will be done then procrastinate it for 3 months then write it drunk one night in 2.5 hours
 
didnt php start out as a hobby project, too? look at what a clusterfuck it turned out to be :p
 
it works.
see: rlemons-12-days
 
7:27 PM
@StephanMuller how big is your list, anyway? your idea of huge and my idea of huge when it comes to databases is probably quite different :p
 
46k
as in, 46000 names
 
filenames?
 
if you were to use a like comparison, it would be rather slow. i dont know what the performance is like on a fulltext index, but it might be worth looking at
 
will do, thx
 
7:49 PM
dezeen.com/2013/06/05/… cc @StephanMuller
 
sup
i ruined your cc
 
s/cc/day/
 
@Mario wow, I used to live very close to that
 
@rlemon congrats me!
 
> Fuck your fake bridges. We're building these shits! ~ Netherlands
 
7:53 PM
i'm pretty sure those are real bridges
and this an aqueduct
 
@Mario they are now
point of the article was that the money had fake stuff to not piss off any one country.
Netherlands was like, fuck you, it's all ours now!
 
lol
 
mine mine mine
 
anyway that site has the biggest header i have ever seen
on my laptop i only see the header basically
 
ahahahahahaha
the first guys grab the money and run!
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
glorious
 
Who is LucasB?
 
the winner
 
@Mario the only good part about the video was the three guys in the beginning who took the money and ran for it
> ohh fuck what is going on here? look at all of that money... GRAB IT AND RUN!
 
8:39 PM
ahaha, yea epic
 
he looks to be a vamp
 
oh no @rlemon I entered into the drawing for today but I didn't mean to
I just wanted to view the winners
so if I win you can re-draw
 
how do i remove padding for an li without using css but inline
 
@Hellovart you mean remove it by typing stuff in a .html file?
 
8:45 PM
@Hellovart Without using css or inline?
pick one
 
@TylerH yes but without CSS
 
well it is a CSS property
 
no CSS
 
impossibru
yw
 
oh, so there is no method in html
lame
 
8:46 PM
well you could use JavaScript
but you'd be selecting the CSS property
 
@Hellovart Nope your requirement is lame
 
Just got my first "popular question" badge (1k views) and it has 2 upvotes. My self answer has a whopping 2 upvotes...
 
im implementing html in Java, that's why
 
That is not a reason
 
uh, yes it is
 
8:47 PM
Also I have no idea what that sentence means
 
Java can parse html but not css
oh, lol
well, then, thanks anyway everyone
 
@TylerH it's auto drawn. so if you win you can choose the person who gets it once delivery time comes
 
@rlemon ok
@Hellovart Have you looked at Swing?
 
ughhh
swing not fun to work with (for me)
 
@ZachSaucier that's twice as good as my only popular question stackoverflow.com/questions/21687326/…
from when I was, for all intents and purposes, new to CSS
 
8:52 PM
@TylerH I did upvote that just now, but then I read it and downvoted it
lol
 
you should have just removed the upvote -_-
 
@TylerH Did you get revenge votes or something?
 
@PeeHaa Hm? No Zach just upvoted it without reading it, then read it and changed his upvote to a downvote
 
oh k. Saw two downvotes so thought you were hit :)
ah the 9th you got revenge downvoted
 
8:57 PM
@ZachSaucier is SVG considered part of CSS?
 
@TylerH no
it's XML
I dunno what they call the styling of it...
 
okay, then I don't see Ed's answer as being incorrect
 
oh I thought it was SVG
 
8:59 PM
oh it is SVG
it's just also in CSS
confusing
 
fallback?
 
I read something a while back about upcoming features of CSS (or maybe it was SVG) allowing for easily-defined irregularly shaped elements
gonna try and find that again
 
wow, after 6 months of working with angular daily, it's quite a switch to go back to jquery
 
Ah, found it on A List Apart
 
I saw a presentation by that author on fronteers, quite interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI9roqOKKO8
she goes rather fast, but it's impressive
 
9:05 PM
She has done a lot of great stuff
 
oh that video is only her face
 
she will be speaking at the conference @ZachSaucier is speaking at in 2015, IIRC
 
Zach is speaking at a conference?
 
yessir
 
9:06 PM
in Warsaw
 
awesome
 
@TylerH SVG already has easily defined irregular shapes
 
let's see if I can convince my boss I need to be there
 
@StephanMuller do it :P
 
@ZachSaucier yeah but SVG is scary
 
9:07 PM
haha
I can give you some great articles to understand it if you want
it's quite easy
 
math D-:
 
most the time you don't have to worry about the math
 
hmm unfortunately FF only supports url() with clip-path so Ed's new demo is ineffective there
gonna check it out in Chrome
 
wait it's only a 10 hour drive to warsaw
I might use it as a mini vacation
 
@skibbi_bizzle @easwee twitch.tv/gattington
 
9:12 PM
yay meeting more room members!
 
subscribe ^ he's a funny guy and does mad things with robocraft :D
 
I'll check with my boss, we're definitely going have a beer if I end up going there
 
guys if you want to organize something in europe, say austria/germany i'm in
 
@Mario austria/germany
 
@TylerH same thing :D
or in italy ofc
 
9:14 PM
@StephanMuller not a big beer fan, but I'll likely grab something with you :P
 
appletini, whatever
 
lol
 
ok, time for döner kebab and an episode of LOST
bbl
 
your vacation seems going well @StephanMuller
 
today is pajama day. still in my trackpants, wondering if I should change before getting some food
(also I've been writing code for 6 hours straight just now, but it's for a personal project so it still counts as vacation right?)
 
9:17 PM
i sometimes wear a suit at home, because i miss my office and at home i usually don't even wear pants (cc @BasementKeyboardHero @rlemon)
 
lol
next time I get a photo taken for my linkedin profile I'm going to wear a suit but no pants
 
will probably looking for a new job in 2015
ahahah
classic
 
so I'll look good in the pic but I'll be the only one that knows that secretly my dong is hanging out
 
lol
 
oh and the photographer of course, but he's my brother so he'll get over it
 
9:19 PM
@Mario absolutely!
 
How do you find out what a symbol is?
e.g. ° = degrees ˚ = ?
 
@joshhunt look up the ascii
 
how?
 
!!google ° unicode character
 
the second doesn't seem to be standard
 
@joshhunt find on an ascii table page
can paste the character, if it's there it'll show
 
good site
 
apparently it is "ring above"
 
-_-
lame name
 
9:35 PM
I think it is the little circle above letters like å just with no letter
 
yes it is just a "ring" apparently en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_%28diacritic%29
rather lame compared to some other ones
 
And don't forget about the half rings: unicodelookup.com/#half ring/1 :P
^ don't know how to fix that link
 
lol
add %20 instead of a space?
 
tried that but it changes the result
 
DevTools Tip: Use the paint profiler to see what draw calls were executed to draw a page (can also scrub the profile) http://twitter.com/umaar/status/544827356733792256/photo/1
 
9:45 PM
i give up
that site is stupid
 
yup lol
 
DEGREE SIGN (U+00B0)
 
rlemon's 12 days! new prizes every day so remember to check back!
14
(needed more generic message)
 
@Mario ?
 
unicode names are not unique
a symbol can have multiple names
say - is both named minus sign and dash
but they are mapped to the same code point
 
10:11 PM
@Mario dash is supposed to be longer than a minus sign though
minus sign is supposed to be hyphen length
dash is supposed to be like 1.5 to 2x as long as that
 
yeah i meant hyphen :P
 
@rlemon you should add an option to just view winners (without entering)
 
@TylerH will consider it
bigger fires to put out first
!!afk
 
@cimmanon hmm apparently a circle is a very generic shape
 
 
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11:22 PM
Can someone help me figure out how to change the color of a specific pseudo element that exists 6 times on the page? Here's my Q stackoverflow.com/questions/27536640/…
 
@redshift the problem with the answer you already have is what, exactly?
 
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