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3:00 PM
He's a perfectionist, and lauded, so I envy that much
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum I was really just hoping she'd say node.js.
 
@Jhawinsss Read nodebeginner.org
@beta0x64 I already have two indications of him being a bad programmer. First, he says stuff like 'can't be possible with JS' about jQuery where jQuery is a JS library, with a not too complicated (but pretty ugly) source code. Two, the "one true way" bit.
Flexibility in problem solving is one of the most important virtues in a programmer.
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum disgusting site right there.
 
@Jhawinsss serverside guy
 
user1596138
Had to zoom out as far as I could.
 
user1596138
3:02 PM
But it's probably worth the read. So I'll get over it.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum He gets results though. He doesn't compromise on user experience.
 
@beta0x64 Bad programmers get results too :)
 
Well, what does that say about me? Heh.
 
Sheesh ... I have to invent a bottle that automagically gets rid of the coaster.
 
3:07 PM
@FlorianMargaine I love lamp
 
user1596138
Just watched this chick get fired. At first I felt really bad, but she seems normal and happy?
 
user1596138
Like, she's taking it too well.
 
@rlemon seriously, did you watch its output?
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean And why is that?
 
3:10 PM
@EricFrick that was not the point :/
 
@Jhawinsss What did she do?
 
centOS doesn't have tree installed. stupid distro
@FlorianMargaine terminal backgrounds (or semi transparent terminal) - how do you use these
text on a background image is so hard to read (imo)
 
@rlemon none has it
 
user1596138
@beta0x64 Nothing. That's why she got canned. She hasn't made an ad sale on her own in about 4 months.
 
@rlemon the one I have is barely noticed
 
3:12 PM
@FlorianMargaine I find Cent is pretty weak out of the box (compared to Fedora)
 
user1596138
@rlemon I use an animated one.
 
or at least, what I want it for
 
it slightly decorates the background, but I don't really notice it
 
@FlorianMargaine after a while I imagine, I notice it right away.
 
@rlemon well, that's like saying debian is pretty weak out of the box compared to ubuntu...
 
3:13 PM
it is
:P
 
but on ubuntu or fedora you have to yum install/apt-get install tree anyway.
 
yea tree aside
I'm bitching about my experience with Cent
also, tree is sexy
thanks ;)
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user1596138
Doesn't show up on screenshots. Nevermind.
 
user1596138
@rlemon Thank you.
 
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you know who is a trolly troll.... @BenjaminGruenbaum
 
3:15 PM
Mar 13 at 1:40, by rlemon
(Random Fact, when rlemon was 13 he pooped on a slide. he isn't proud of it, but he felt it was time to confess. I'm sorry slide.)
 
cool. I shit on a slide - Linux still isn't stupid.
ahh, the old argument from the windows crowd.
libre office
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum Polaris and Libre.
 
FOSS
windows 8 sucks ass
so hard core it isn't even funny
so all arguments from you are invalid
their latest release is a crap shoot
over priced crap shoot
I don't mind it at all
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum I hate MSOffice. Are you saying it's any better??
 
how do you like a 40gb install or a 6gb runtime
 
user1596138
3:18 PM
It's terrible. It's riddled with memory leaks too, crashing or slowly crippling any machine I've ever used it on.
 
Linux works perfectly fine for me on worse hardware than windows
the only argument I hear is: "waa waa I don't like linux because I don't know how to use it"
 
user1596138
I've never talked about office for Mac. Ever.
 
and if you "know how to use it" but still claim it "sucks" - you don't know how to use it
 
user1596138
@rlemon Nuff said.
 
ha
eat my redhat 1 book bitch
also i'm pretty sure i'm older than you and started coding before you
again, invalid argument
 
user1596138
3:20 PM
I learned to use Ubuntu 6 when I was little. I didn't touch a Windows or Mac system till I was about 15.
 
i'm 27 and started coding when I was 8
 
user1596138
Wait, maybe it was 8? I forget.
 
but that means nothing
 
user1596138
It was Hardy Heron. That's either 7 or 8?
 
user1596138
8
 
3:21 PM
we are both smart people and to claim that all of linux is shit is absurd.
 
Zzz
 
you are trolling
 
user1596138
I didn't have access to anything else until I was older and at friends and such until I got my own computer.
 
w/e
you're just trolling now and everyone but you knows it
 
user1596138
@Ben screenie right now?
 
3:21 PM
I run windows at home because video games
 
^
 
^
 
user1596138
^
 
Windows isn't 'shit' - win8 is shit sure
 
Although Valve is really pushing linux
eh I like windows 8
 
3:22 PM
@Jhawinsss lay the coaster on top of the bottle, forget that you put it there and then try to drink.
Have fun.
 
user1596138
The layout of Windows 8 is shit. The whole UI is. But at it's core Windows 8 is pretty good.
 
but I don't mind windows 7 - but saying linux is because 'hipsters' makes you sound like the biggest douche alive.
 
because windows 8 == windows 7 with a fancy start menu
 
user1596138
@OctavianDamiean do you call caps coasters?
 
user1596138
@Loktar There's so much more than that.
 
3:23 PM
@Loktar the UX changes in win8 seemed too much like "change for the sake of change" to me
hidden side menus and stuff annoy me.
better UX === intuitive UX.
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum Doesn't look like Windows or Mac to me.
 
I argue it is not intuitive
 
@Jhawinsss idk man I've been using it for 8 months now, its not much differnet than windows 7
 
Win 8 was designed with mobile in mind
 
@rlemon I agree with the side menus
thats dumb
 
3:23 PM
source: it is not intuitive for anyone I know moving from 7 to 8 in my office.
 
my biggest complaint is shutting down windows 8
 
user1596138
Because you used stupid side-menus too.
 
@Loktar yup
 
user1596138
I officially hate you as of today.
 
windows 8.1 will fix everything though
 
user1596138
3:24 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Was trolling...
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum so you saying ms shouldn't care about 90% of their target market?
 
user1596138
@Loktar This belongs in the really funny jokes room.
 
I haven't actually used win 8 so I'm gonna duck out
 
I don't use linux to feel cool.
 
@Jhawinsss honestly the major difference between 7 and 8 is the metro interface
 
3:25 PM
I use it because It is a good OS for what I do
 
which I just look at it as a fancy start menu, and it doesnt bother me
 
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garbage argument gone ;)
 
user1596138
:10609725 It isn't to feel cool. I can't speak for anyone else, but I use it 90% for the terminal.
 
I wouldn't use linux outside of a web server
 
LINUX IS GREAT
 
3:25 PM
@rlemon I can do that too -_-
!!/mute rlemon 10m
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You probably didn't want to mute a room owner.
 
;)
 
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:)
 
I use Linux when I need to get shit done, because Linux doesn't have my games :P
 
but i'm an owner.
 
!!/mute rlemon 10
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You probably didn't want to mute a room owner.
 
user1596138
:)
 
now you're just being a douch
 
Lol
 
3:26 PM
Of course I am, that's the point :)
See how sound my Windows argument is when I mute the opposition?
Wow, now I can talk about how awesome Windows is and your opinion is invalid
 
damn what was the argument even?
 
What an awesome way to have a conversation
 
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I just popped in when someone said win 8 sucked, I like win 8 :(
 
3:27 PM
Ain't this awesome?
 
user1596138
The reason I can tolerate this Mac at work is because I need the terminal.
 
your argument was that all Linux users are hipsters and only use it to be cool.
saying that makes you a HUGE douche
 
@rlemon no, my argument is that you only use it to be cool.
 
13 secs ago, by rlemon
saying that makes you a HUGE douche
 
Guys I got my toe infected and it really hurts
 
3:28 PM
@rlemon u mad bro?
 
I target a unix environment, what else would I code on
 
yea, you've successfully pissed me off
 
u mad about Windows bro?
 
lol shit, breaking out the umad
 
3:28 PM
I probably use Debian more than I use Windows.
 
you know arguments have gotten real when umad breaks out
 
I just wanted to see if I could still pull a good old' one.
 
user1596138
As far as a window server or GUI I don't care. I don't care what Windows looks like, or how sleek my Mac looks. Or how nice my Ubuntu desktop looks. When I need to do something remotely I want a terminal. I need bash scripts to run my backup/auto-upload systems for work.
 
@rlemon 2.9
 
Hey guys, I'm trying to animate a table row SO-style. However it seems like only the cells are being targeted visually, not the row - can anyone shed some light? jsfiddle.net/htNQM
 
3:30 PM
you actually pissed me off because I respect your opinion. telling me i'm a hipster or just trying to be 'cool' by using linux is like a friend coming up to me and telling me i'm a fake hipster who is only trying to impress others.
so yea, I took it personally.
 
@rlemon Hipster
Also, linux is awesome
 
@Jimbo I don't know you
 
@rlemon Is this the first time you've heard me argue about Linux here :P?
 
@rlemon Joking ;)
 
so I don't respect you or care.
 
3:30 PM
@Jimbo You have a white border between them... what did you expect?
 
!!summon 7
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh bugger, of course - danke schon
 
and 'no respect' is not a bad thing - you just gotta earn it first. (not given and all)
 
@rlemon In general, it's very easy to piss off linux people like that. Telling them that they just do it to be cool :P
 
3:31 PM
\o/
 
sweet my doom pen was featured
 
@rlemon I actually do think that Windows gives a better user experience and I'm more productive on it although I use both often. Some common retorts though for next time: windows bash sucks, everything costs money, everything is bulkier, updating takes more restarts, hardware costs more.
 
thats random , made it on Saturday
 
It's less easy to customize
 
@Jhawinsss well i am the slow guy in here i started using computers <and programming them> when i was like 12-13
 
3:32 PM
I think that pretty much sums the disadvantages.
 
:-/
 
@Darkyen age doesnt matter, passion does
 
Meanwhile in soviet russia : new born babies of programmers are now saying cx mx cry.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I personally (outside of VS) find that editors just work better on linux, so I prefer to do most of my coding in it. Windows is nice for games and media so I use it for that.
 
@Loktar true that mate.
i wish i had a codepen pro :'(.. nvm
 
3:35 PM
@rlemon I think the biggest issue is that the two programming languages I use for most of my stuff - C# and JS just have better editors and development in Windows. Not to mention that I want to pop Photoshop open every once in a month
 
forefront.io/a/… @Loktar @rlemon make for your kids.
 
eh, I disagree about js - c# for sure.
what editor do you use for js? VS?
 
@Darkyen I did that years ago
put a webcam on it as well, and had a web interface
w/o arduino
used the parallel port
 
I know old VS sucked ass for JS - haven't tried vs2012 with JS yet.
 
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3:36 PM
@Darkyen I have no kids
 
@rlemon It's not too bad, but not on par with other VS languages.
 
@rlemon VS + ReSharper and web fundamentals. Other JetBrains IDEs work too, but from my experience working with WebStorm on Ubuntu wasn't very fun.
 
user1596138
@Loktar But why.
 
I use VS + JS every day at work.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yea, but then we also split on the IDE stand.
 
user1596138
3:37 PM
Just use the remote...
 
@Jhawinsss was cool to drive it via the computer remotely
 
I use IDEs when coding in frameworks. with JS i have not yet used any 'frameworks' really.
 
I did it from work and talked to the kids on the phone :P
 
@rlemon That's just because you don't appreciate the finer things in life like: A working debugger, propert context-based code completion, refactoring and such.
 
user1596138
I just don't see any point.
 
3:37 PM
If someone finds joy in it theres a point to it
otherwise video games wouldnt exist
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I appreciate them. just not with my JS (keep in mind I only write JS for hobby purposes)
 
@rlemon Integrated unit testing management, lots of brain fart finding, reformatting in a single key combo.
 
yea, I've never had to use any of it with JS (unit testing might be nice, but for what I Do it is not required)
 
@rlemon Still, if you're serious about it you should consider it. Or at least vim/emacs with the appropriate plugins.
 
user1596138
@Loktar True I guess.
 
3:39 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I use VIM with plugins
 
but overall, there was no real purpose to doing it besides seeing if I could
 
cept when I nuked my server I have vanilla vim on it
:/ sucks.
 
user1596138
But it's like me setting up my garbage disposal with an adruino. I still just have a working garbage disposal, only difference is it's adruino controlled now.
 
php script sent info via sockets, to a vb app that sent the signals to the parallel port, which had its wires soldered to the controller contact points
I didnt use arduino at all for mine, this was back in like 2007 maybe, I just did it because I thought it would be cool to make a web controlled car
the webcam on it was also wired, I had a usb extension for it
 
beep
 
3:45 PM
@rlemon You know me, would I ever rule out a technology like that for real :)?
 
user1596138
@Loktar Webcam on the car sounds pretty cool actually.
 
lol yeah it was but the lag was so crazy
the website buffered the cam, so all that had to be taken into account
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You remember asking me why I prefer Arch over Ubuntu (or was it you saying how you don't see the point in Arch)?
Well, I've given it some thought. And I didn't truly appreciate why I didn't like Ubuntu until after moving to Arch.
 
@Zirak Well, out with it!
 
I remember after ditching Windows and moving to Ubuntu...this incredible feeling of awesomeness. But over time, I got annoyed in ways I couldn't word out. And then...I moved again...
And I realized it was the same core problem. I didn't just dislike Windows because it was less open or for many other reasons Linux is better (at some things, yes, Windows is better at others). It was because I felt like Windows treated me like a child. And Ubuntu had the same problem. "Would you like to install updates?", "I've found some new hardware...", "I'm afraid I can't let you do that"
And I detest being treated like a child. I'M AN ADUUUULLLTT, and I don't want the OS tazing me in the butthole.
 
3:55 PM
Man, the entire political situation regarding the internet is pretty worrisome.
 
@Zirak All these prompts is something that a single registry setting fixes, I'm sure there's a conf in Ubuntu for that too.
Windows for example only downloads updates that I ask it to automatically (for example, security updates) and installs them without asking, the rest it doesn't do (for example office updates)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum But it's an attitude problem
 
@zirak macs are the worst in that regard aren't they
 
Yeah, but it's something a configuration file fixes,.
 
I'm sure you can configure it to treat you correctly, but that's in some cases, not all. I had to wrestle with Ubuntu on several occasions. I never have to do that with Arch.
 
3:58 PM
I wouldn't choose an operating system based on its design philosophy, I'd choose the one that makes me work the least for it and does the most for me.
 
Yeah, we're different in that regard.
 
Guys. Video games
/thread
 
Just because I know the general architecture of an operating system kernel, how to write a (very basic) driver, or write a bash script that turns on my coffee machine doesn't mean I want to.
I want that coffee machine to turn itself on and make my coffee.
 
But that's a different level of abstraction. Doing the extra step with Arch isn't hacking the kernel, it's at worst understanding tools like systemctl
I do enjoy being lazy, but I like to earn that enjoyment.
 
Right, so the extra step is 'welcome' and not hackish - you still have to do an extra step I didn't have to do.
 
4:01 PM
And I don't mind that I had to
 
Right, but that's -1 right there for the OS for making you.
I did the obligatory "install Arch and configure it", lasted for a week :P
 
No it's not. The times where I have to intervene are growing far and fewer, because I got better at using the tools it provides.
 
@Garvin Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@ben the opposite argument applies as well
 
@Shmiddty Which?
 
4:03 PM
Windows--
 
Where the is does something you don't want it to do
 
There may have been a -1, but that's not to the OS, that's to me for not knowing what to do.
 
!!karma Windows
 
Os
 
@eazimmerman That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
 
4:03 PM
@Zirak The fact you even had such a learning curve, that the OS made you learn a bunch of tools I don't need to know as a Windows user is a minus imo.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum The "imo" is the important part:
5 mins ago, by Zirak
Yeah, we're different in that regard.
I like learning these tools
I like knowing what the OS does, until some level of abstraction
 
@rlemon future planning
 
You may not like it, and that's fine
 
Yeah, I like linux a lot as a learning experience, I learned much from playing with it. (Even with Arch), I just didn't find it very productive.
 
probability of you having kids is higher then mine... atleast for the next 4 years.
 
4:05 PM
That's why there are different OSs and in the first place, different goals, different paths to these goals.
 
Also, linux is free :)
 
@darkyen that sounds like a blessing
 
@Shmiddty :P
 
Kids are awful
 
no they are fun
they are good example and test subjects to analyze how human brain constructs its own computational algorithms itself
 
4:06 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, if I wanted to write code right now and all I had was an empty machine, I wouldn't choose Arch
But luckily, "right now" got delayed to later.
 
@Zirak What if you were in a production environment and had.. let's say a month.
 
Definitely, getting it up and running correctly will take me about 1 day now
And I'll gain the benefit of being treated like an adult (plus...pacman is great).
 
user1125394
@BenjaminGruenbaum I dont pay much for windows
 
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user1125394
but I prefer linux too
 
4:13 PM
@cx I don't pay at all... if only I was the only person alive.
 
I don't have to pay anything for Windoze, and don't use it anyway
Only to get through security at the airport
 
user1125394
I mean I would have to pay license in a new laptop, no choice in most of cases
 
user1125394
with asus you can get paid pack the Windows license I think
 
@ziraks message about taking a day to get it up should be starred because erectile dysfunction
 
Why should they star my message because of your erectile dysfunction?
 
4:17 PM
Because I'm on my phone and can't do it myself. Also boner bros for life
 
user1125394
Winux
 
Solution: create 4 partitions on a fresh drive. One is data, one windoze, one linux, one osx
 
@mikedidthis how busy are you in the near to immediate future
 
!!/refresh
!!ban
 
@Zirak 895174 (?) 1355043 (?) 1079641 (?)
 
user1125394
4:23 PM
@Shmiddty you've never the time to switch between the 3, will be 90% 9.9% and 0.1%
 
!!ban 1858108
 
@Zirak User 1858108 added to mindjail.
 
@rlemon Fixed
 
user1125394
virtual machine are thus better
 
user1125394
o well right now pc can boot in 3 seconds I forgot
 
4:25 PM
I'm in a dilemma because I got a really good porn game so I have to switch to Windows every night
 
lol
 
user1125394
hehe
 
user1125394
linux : virus free, porn free
 
@cx Yea, no. Just no.
 
user1125394
some few virus..
 
4:27 PM
I'm not talking about viruses, I'm talking about porn.
 
@OctavianDamiean Porn expensive?
 
porn.jpg.sh
 
Flavors of linux now are probably approaching windows # of viruses
 
(The importance of hyphens)
 
cough android cough
 
user1125394
4:28 PM
@OctavianDamiean ah sry not much experienced, yea right it's just web
 
@Jimbo I'm telling on you
in PHP, 54 mins ago, by Jimbo
@BenjaminGruenbaum But I remember last week, that young mod was in here and wanted to start massive pedantic debates and was banished back to JS chat lol
 
user1125394
unlike u :p
 
@minitech :P
 
@Loktar Well, one should differentiate between security holes and viruses.
 
Ill say malicious software then :P
 
4:30 PM
When was the last time someone on a home personal computer actually had a virus?
 
@Loktar Still, there is no real malware spreading in the Linux world yet.
 
I haven't had an anti virus for 10 years or something like that, no viruses thankyou.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum How do you know if you don't have an antivirus? :D
 
You're not the average user
 
user1125394
rm -rf ~ is more harmful than a virus sometimes
 
4:31 PM
@OctavianDamiean So you think I have a virus but haven't noticed :)?
 
You don't click on the dancing rabbits
 
LOL I havent been checked for cancer in 10 years, cancer free bitches!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Maybe you have some sort of malware which just isn't as obvious.
 
@cx Why would you do that?
@OctavianDamiean I monitor my network traffic and CPU traffic pretty closely :)
 
I check for lumps all the time
 
4:33 PM
Also, I don't click "Install" on "Get More Smilies" or "Free Penis Enlargement Software" or "jQuery UI"
 
like I said totally cancer free
 
user1125394
@BenjaminGruenbaum a typo for ex :'
 
@cx You should have a backup anyway :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Wait, the "Free Penis Enlargement Software" thing isn't malware, the others probably are.
 
m59
Is there a country somewhere that isn't bound to explode within the next few generations??
 
4:34 PM
@m59 Explode as in how?
 
user1125394
@BenjaminGruenbaum yep now I'm dropboxing a lot
 
You know, somewhere, there's a company which actually made a pill to enlarge peni, but they're having a difficult time finding customers.
 
@Loktar If only not catching cancer was as easy as not catching a computer virus.
 
"We put ads all over the internet!"
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum haha
> I have this virus but no one knows why!
^ cancer
 
4:34 PM
"We'll e-mail potential customers! That'll do it!"
 
m59
you know, like...Americans have all lost their minds
 
> we need to put your computer under radiation, its going to run like shit for a while and has a 50% of being fixed
 
@Loktar Schrodinger's computer then?
 
I wonder if anyone said " should've installed linux" to a cancer patient. Probably.
 
m59
My local government is screwed, my state government is screwed, my federal government is screwed. The citizens are all screwed.
 
4:35 PM
@Loktar Watch out, cunnilingus can give cancer! Not saying you do that but yeah ...
 
@OctavianDamiean Buttsecks with dirty hobos can make you sick! Not saying you do that, but yeah...
@Zirak Love the caption
 
@OctavianDamiean 2004 called, they're telling me that this "2004 called" joke is definitely as old as ORLY owls.
 
Jokes are like wine, the older they are the better.
 
4:39 PM
@OctavianDamiean sites.google.com/site/qitranscripts/transcripts/7x11 search "oldest joke"
 
@OctavianDamiean Until they turn to vinegar.
 
@eazimmerman Well, you can make good word salad using joke vinegar.
 
> Something which has never occurred since time immemorial, a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap
Which proves that no matter how old, bad jokes are bad. And contextual humour is contextual.
> [Reverend Sabine Baring-Gould] was the subject of a rather strange, typically Victorian story where he was at a children's party and met a little girl, and said to her, "Who's little girl are you?" And the little girl burst into tears and said, "Yours, Daddy."
 
mother fucking contractors.
seriously...
god damn
@mikedidthis ping me back man
 
4:55 PM
@rlemon how's that situation going down?
 
user1125394
contractors that don't pay..
 
user1125394
hehe tricky i--
 
is that like i-- > 0
 
That's the "going to" operator
 
user1125394
4:59 PM
:))
 
Quite handy
 

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