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user2509848
12:40 AM
@BrandenBoucher Sorry for the delay on my side - just had supper.
 
all good
 
user2509848
Oh, you solved it?
 
Well, it's not null now. Not sure exactly what changed
But now it looks like I'm not getting data pushed to the property that has binding on it.
 
user2509848
OK. I had this problem at first because I was calling OnPropertyChanged() without specifying which property.
 
lol. yep done that before but that's not the case this time.
 
user2509848
12:44 AM
OK.
 
user2509848
If I ever create a custom control, I would probably derive it from the closest related control (a bullet ListBox from a ListBox, for example).
 
user2509848
Then, I won't have these problems (or will I?).
 
You might
 
user2509848
Hmm. Maybe I'd better stick to converters then.
 
This one is pretty complex and really, I doubt the current issue would go away if I derived from a Grid instead of from UserControl
lol
 
user2509848
12:46 AM
Yeah, my uses are no doubt much different.
 
I set a break point on the setter of my bound property but it seems like it never gets hit.
Is there a good reference somewhere on the binding cycle?
 
user2509848
This really helped me, especially the first link: wpftutorial.net/Databinding.html
 
user2509848
1:24 AM
Is this the Stefan that needs to be freed? stackoverflow.com/users/1638430/stefan-denchev
 
user2509848
He hasn't been seen for 193 days.
 
user2509848
April 12.
 
user2509848
Hey, ya'll, remember Code Hunt?
 
user2509848

Code Hunt

A room to discuss codehunt.com puzzles. There may be spoilers ...
 
user2509848
That was a looooong time ago.
 
user2509848
1:33 AM
I need to go visit the trash can - see you later.
 
1:46 AM
Yep. I'm out. Till tomorrow all.
 
 
8 hours later…
10:09 AM
@hosch250 The very same.
 
10:43 AM
lo
 
Hey furier
 
Hi.
 
Hey Denver
 
11:16 AM
@hosch250 I was trying to find that thing!!
 
11:38 AM
I just noticed a huge stain on my hoodie. sigh
 
=[
 
Sean's here!
How was being not here?
Oooh, company wide, all-hands meeting this afternoon. The last time we did this there were layoffs/hour reductions! I'm glad they didn't provide any details.
 
Not being here was ever so slightly more productive than being here
Totally not worth it
 
I'll ask Mav to inform Stefan.
Some random christian latched on to my G+ feed. Turning up the heathenism to 11.
 
11:53 AM
Hahahaha
I just remembered Stefan is from Bulgaria and I have recently met a Bulgarian
I want her to take me over because she showed me pictures of this 2-day hike and I wanna go
So in the event that Mav has returned him, I will free his mind once again
 
Do eeeet
 
12:20 PM
hi @Sean long time no see
 
Hey Moses, how's it going?
 
all is good :D
u?
 
Yeah I'm good thanks
 
why you rarely seen here lately? a big business running around?
 
Hehehehehehehe I spend 2 days away and everyone thinks I've died...
I love you guys <3 =']
Not particularly, I've been doing some really tedious shit and I'm easily distracted
 
12:28 PM
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@Sean :*
 
Oh it's a kiss! WHy did I never bother to look this up before
 
12:51 PM
hahahaha
 
1:35 PM
Okay, this guy can't be real. Is it you, @Sean?
 
ROFL
No, but that's hilarious
You are talking about the random Christian, yeah?
I don't even G+
 
yeah
He identifies himself as "Master Sean."
 
I can't see anything, where is this?
 
OHHH
I see! "Identifies as Master Sean" cos when you mouse over his profile name it says "Master Sean..."
No that's not me xD
 
1:42 PM
Right.
 
I love your comment though
 
He posted twice in a row a few seconds after that. Google flagged it as spam immediately.
 
> It is [a public board]. I'll be pleased to offend your sensibilities for as long as you want to stick around.
Hahaha, go Google
 
no offense but, is it really someone use g+ nowadays? :/ I personally never used that beside for my phone google account, and gmail.
 
Loads of people use it, yeah =]
 
1:55 PM
So... I wanted a social network that isn't used by everyone.
I don't like everyone.
When my dad's neighbor circles me and starts sharing her gay-bashing nonsense, I'll leave G+.
Until then, it's populated by semi-intelligent technophillies who I enjoy hanging out with in the real ls.
 
amen
 
2:08 PM
fair enough
 
2:55 PM
I think thats probably the best bit about G+ .. only reason i haven't left it yet
happy to have low population as long as they're sensible :)
 
Are we G+ buddies?
We are, you're just crazy inactive.
 
yea i am
i've got nothing useful to share :(
and if i wanted to spam useless shit, i'd go to facebook :D
 
My feed must upset you.
 
3:23 PM
nah - i like your feeds :P
 
Holy hell, they stabbed this girl 19 times to "gain favor" with Slenderman. WTF? nbcnews.com/storyline/slender-man-stabbing/…
This is near where @NETscape lives. I assume it's his fault and we should judge him for having legalized knives.
 
hahaha
that's great news though
poor girl. that was about 30-45 minutes away from home.
i couldn't imagine being the biker that rides up and sees the girl. that would be horrible.
 
I dunno how harshly 12 year olds should be treated. My hunch is psychiatric attention would be the correct approach regardless of the degree of insanity.
 
3:39 PM
definitely.
19 times... that is incredible.
how does one think to do that at 12?
 
I thought of some messed up stuff as a kid. I'm not sure it'd occur to me to actually act on it.
 
i mean if i read that I should jump off a bridge at 12, i might have done it. however knowing that stabbing someone is incredibly harmful when I was 12, I wouldn't do something like that.
haha i made "weapons" but was definitely punished for it
playing too much baulder's gate, cue @Sean.
I took a wieldable log from the park and nailed a bunch of 4 inch nails into one end... used to protect myself if i needed... haha
 
Boo would not approve of that club.
 
parent's did not, one bit
thankfully.
also did the same sort of thing with a ruler, and made it kinda like a spring loaded trap. I wanted to... catch... any rodents that might be in the basement
 
I had what amounted to a memory palace. I told my friends about it. We decided to discuss it in code. My interest in cryptography was born that day.
Like miniature giant space hamsters?
 
3:48 PM
haha we always made "code" alphabets to write in code to each other
 
We took notebooks, and lettered out each page. Then numbered each line. We'd write the same noun/verb on the indexed pages. I guess it was a substitution cipher, but with words instead of individual letters.
Obviously the cribs were captured by the enemy (parents) and when they learned we were talking about cigarettes and girls we were reprimanded.
So "D12 a1 q16" would be "Rebecca pizza cigarettes." We had to decipher from there that the sender wanted to take Rebecca out for pizza, but he wanted cigarettes to show off.
limited vocabulary was the first major flaw in our cipher system.
 
user2509848
Is there a room for OS designers?
 
user2509848
I want to discuss a theoretical solution I have for preventing deadlock.
 
That sounds like a Kendall topic over in C#.
 
user2509848
OK.
 
user2509848
4:00 PM
Honestly, the last 2 stars here are bad, but the C# room's look like they should be banned.
 
Eh, the sidebar doesn't have to be serious business.
 
@hosch250 what is that theoretical solution? did you take computer architecture and operating systems yet in uni?
 
user2509848
I am studying Microcomputer Operating Systems, examining these kind of problems.
 
Wow. My degrees really were halfassed.
 
user2509848
My solution removes both the mutual exclusion and no preemption prerequisites, but I am unsure if it is valid.
 
4:08 PM
speak it, draw it, do something with it, and i'll be down to look at it.
 
user2509848
If you have a section of code that requires mutual exclusion and you only want to have one instance of that code running within multiple processes, the process that declares that it needs that resource creates an array of pointers to non-used memory for the code to put its variables in.
 
user2509848
Each process has a different array of pointers, so the variables never get confused.
 
user2509848
The book says that removing the preemption requirement is possible for values that are easy to save to the disk, like the processor registers, but this seems like it should work too.
 
ehh, what happens when 4 processes are trying to execute same code block?
 
user2509848
They can anyway if they are not mutually excluded.
 
4:13 PM
i'm talking, you are just going to keep creating pointer arrays and stack them on top of each other?
 
user2509848
Each process handles its own arrays.
 
and handle it how? like a queue?
 
user2509848
The problem I am running across is getting the code block to know which array to store its variable in, but that should be solvable.
 
As always, I have another random question. How do you set an attached property on an item created using FrameworkElementFactory?
 
that's a good one B, no idea. i would have to read docs
 
user2509848
4:16 PM
Like any other array, it has an entry for each variable in the code block, and both the process and the code block know which is which and use them as they need them.
 
@NETscape I wish I had easier to answer questions...
 
user2509848
@BrandenBoucher You should turn some of your problems into questions and gain rep from them (although the WPF questions don't usually get rep).
 
I really probably should. Especially for helping others.
 
@hosch250 not sure I exactly follow. If a process creates an array of pointers, it still has to hand them off to the code block
that's basically what calling a function does, isn't it?
 
user2509848
The idea is that each process will think it has its own version of the resource, while it is really sharing the resource with other processes.
 
user2509848
4:31 PM
Like how processes don't know that they are being preempted so other processes can run on the processor.
 
user2509848
Also, the resource will think it is only using one variable, but based on which process is using it, it is really storing the variables in many places.
 
user2509848
So yes, it would work a little like a function, only deep in the computer, not just user code.
 
user2509848
4:46 PM
BTW, I feel sorry for the Dining Philosophers. Such a hum-drum existence!
 
mhmmm
the code block / array thing
 
user2509848
Yes?
 
have something like a dictionary, store the "type" in the key, a null pointer to variable in index
trying to visualize, but i think i'm missing it
 
user2509848
Something like that. My idea is only in a very basic level, and probably isn't feasible or somebody would have thought of it by now.
 
don't think that way
 
user2509848
4:52 PM
Alright, it is possible, and my name will be in all the textbooks in 10 years ;)
 
someone recently invented a snapshot camera app. take a picture and only show it for 10 seconds. they are now billionaires
or can be
 
Did I tell you guys about my idea?
 
user2509848
No.
 
That's totes way better than snapchat
 
user2509848
What is?
 
4:53 PM
So I'm going to use this for financial regulation compliance, but it's totally portable to a snapchat context.
 
user2509848
Sounds interesting.
 
The app gets the pixels raw off the camera, then encrypts it using the other party's public key. It is sent to them. It can only be seen by them.
If the picture gets out, you know who to go after.
 
user2509848
Sounds very interesting.
 
user2509848
I never heard of a rich security guy, but you might be one after you get this working.
 
My phone insists on sending every picture I take to the cloud, because I'm interested in backing things up. It doesn't have a way for me to tell it, "No, this is not for you Google. This is for me."
heh... you don't know many security guys do you? :P
 
user2509848
4:56 PM
None.
 
We do alright.
 
that's pretty good Bill
 
user2509848
I always heard they were in demand, but worked loooong hours and were the unsung heroes of the tech world.
 
but, isn't that basically the same as snap?
i mean, i do get notified when you take a screenshot of my snap.
and they tell you who took it
 
I don't think snapchat goes raw off the camera. I'm pretty sure it's not using public key crypto.
 
user2509848
4:58 PM
My WP has a setting that I can use to send pictures to the cloud, but I can't choose on a per-picture basis.
 
I didn't know they did that. I do know that 3rd parties have worked around it (which is the latest controversy)
 
yeah, snapsave i believe
 
@hosch250 In high demand. Works really hard. And cheap? Heh.
 
basically takes a screenshot using a different method other than calling the OSs "take a screenshot" command
 
user2509848
Well, not cheap, not not illionares either.
 
4:59 PM
^ lies
 
user2509848
OK, who do I go after?
 
user2509848
For spreading them.
 
The people my age who just got into the field aren't in the seven digit range yet. The people who have a few more gray hairs are.
 
i might've said it before. but i ran into a father of a guy whose son works at cisco. his son gives seminars around the world. his son won't tell him how much he makes. but his son did tell him he got a $400k bonus at the end of one of the years.
 
The person you sent it to. Since this wouldn't accept pictures from the disk there'd only be one target.
 
user2509848
5:01 PM
OK, 6-digit will be good enough for me.
 
reportedly $10k a seat for the seminar
 
Security will get you there. So will programming though.
Doing both is pretty alright too :D
 
so, i can be a mall cop and do it?!
 
Who'd report the items you steal, NETscape?
 
me, duh :)
 
user2509848
5:03 PM
Are you wanting to fight the terrorists?
 
i do actually
 
Friday dev meeting got canceled. Still have this mystery all-hands meeting coming up. Gross.
 
my #1 dream job is the military
 
Did you see that job to program drone stuff?
Recruiter hit me up for it last week. C#. Work from home for government, interface with boeing/lockheed and monthly meetings at Fort Hood.
Man that was a tempting offer.
 
i want to fly an aircraft, or be a troop on the ground.
 
5:05 PM
What's stopping you?
It's not like there's no room for infantry.
 
eh, things. haha
 
user2509848
Are you sure?? If I joined, I'd try to fly the F22. I wouldn't want to be a ground troop.
 
If I joined I'd try to get into a cryptoteam. Those guys rarely die and frequently save millions.
 
user2509848
I meant being a mall cop. They got enough action out in Ethiopia, was it?
 
my parents/ex-gf at the time stopped me from doing military stuff early in uni. since then I've basically disqualified myself.
 
5:07 PM
Felony? Damn pot smokers.
 
so my backup #1 is crypto
i have none of those
otherwise i wouldn't have talked guns in here
 
I forgot felons can't own guns.
 
as bill sells all his guns
 
My record is clean enough for everything but politics.
 
user2509848
Politics? They have the worst record.
 
5:09 PM
you'd be surprised how selective military is for their officer program, because officers are basically politicials
 
user2509848
 
I thought you wanted to be a grunt
 
flying is aircraft requires officer ranks. being a grunt would've been something i'd done if i didn't finish school
though if i live to see the next WW I will be weighing out my options again
 
user2509848
I think the F35b sounds cool.
 
I'm pretty sure anyone with American citizenship in this room would get pulled into cyber-warfare almost immediately.
 
user2509848
5:12 PM
Probably. I am suspicious my computer has a virus from Java right now, but I can't do anything about it until school is over.
 
my friend is going to be piloting the B1.
 
user2509848
I am going to wipe my computer after finals.
 
Nice.
 
damn jealous.
he wanted to do B2, but that program was full... he could've picked any aircraft he wanted.
 
300 million dollars.
 
5:14 PM
haha i can't even wrap my head around that
 
That is so many dollars!
 
until you think about warren buffet.
 
user2509848
Or Bill Gates.
 
and his $2.1 billion lost in 2 days.
Buffet > Gates
 
user2509848
? I heard Gates was the richest man in the world again.
 
5:16 PM
hes either #1 or #2
 
user2509848
Gates: 81.3 billion.
 
but either way, all buffet has to do is gamble with his investments.
 
user2509848
Buffet: 67 billion.
 
and either way, both is a lot of money
i would like to be either for a day
or at least collect a days worth of their earnings
 
Gates, Buffet, and Slim are all up there. Depends on how their portfolios are doing at any given moment.
When you have more money than most nations it tends to fluctuate a bit.
 
user2509848
5:20 PM
Doesn't it fluctuate anyway?
 
Sort of.
 
user2509848
Just not as much.
 
Average American has 3% less purchasing power every year. Bitcoin users can see a 10-25% shift of their purchasing power every day. Average country's purchasing power probably swings in the millions every day.
 
user2509848
I don't have Bitcoin. What are the laws about stealing bitcoins?
 
user2509848
Same as usual?
 
user2509848
5:26 PM
What about getting the coins back?
 
user2509848
Does it have a limited liability style, like when the bank is robbed, you are not affected?
 
In the US? Same as any other property.
It is not federally insured. You are your own bank, it's up to you to take percussion. Same as cash.
Unlike cash, it's possible to prove you owned bitcoins and that they were stolen from you.
similar to gold.
 
user2509848
OK, I'd rather keep my money in the bank, until they charge negative interest.
 
user2509848
At least, most of it.
 
Well... they do.
at 3% inflation (which they cause) and a .49% interest rate... you're losing 2.51% a year.
 
user2509848
5:30 PM
Well, yes, I know about that.
 
user2509848
But it is better than losing 3% a year by not keeping it in the bank.
 
user2509848
I don't actually have control of my money right now anyway.
 
Yes. stuffing dollars into a mattress is not a good plan.
Bitcoin isn't that. But I'm kinda busy atm so that'll have to be saved for another time.
 
user2509848
OK.
 
user2509848
From what I understand, bitcoin is a little like the stock market.
 
5:33 PM
....no.
Bitcoin is exchanged, like any other currency.
Currency exchanges are a little like a stock market.
 
user2509848
OK, that is what I was thinking about.
 
brb. I have a sudden need for chips, gummy bears, and coke zero.
 
user2509848
5:48 PM
Have to leave now and take a quiz and have lunch. See you.
 
7:16 PM
 
user2509848
7:55 PM
@Billdr Actually, about the banks, that is the Federal Reserve causing the inflation, the banks don't actually have much to do about it because they cannot print money.
 
user2509848
The banks don't help, but the Fed pretty much controls it.
 
user2509848
Sometimes, I think we need to go back to the gold standard, or maybe a gold/silver/gemstone standard.
 
user2509848
That would be difficult, though.
 
8:28 PM
Hosch, you are mistaken.
Look into fractional reserve banking.
Also, do not mistake the federal reserve for a government organization.
 
user2509848
OK.
 
user2509848
My economics class said the Federal Reserve was the one who could really control inflation/deflation.
 
By setting the interest rate banks can borrow money from them at.
 
user2509848
Yes, that is what it said.
 
The banks actually issue the money that causes inflation.
 
user2509848
8:33 PM
Yes, but they are more of the intermediary.
 
user2509848
The Fed wants them to issue more money, so they give them a poor interest rate.
 
For another bank, sure.
Again, the fed isn't the federal government.
 
user2509848
The banks can then earn more money by lending it to people at a higher interest rate, so they do.
 
user2509848
Yes, but they have pretty much absolute control over the money supply given them by the government.
 
Its more of a risk management thing.
 
user2509848
8:36 PM
Yes, that too.
 
The government controls how many bonds are out there, and they are considered the safest investment for a bank. The government also sets interest rates on them.
 
user2509848
True.
 
That is the only official control the government has. The rest is private sector.
 
user2509848
More problems come in besides these. For example, during an inflation when the Fed pumps money into the economy to get it going, too much money can be pumped in before there are any signs, and then the economy swings too far the other way.
 
user2509848
BTW, are you sure the Fed is not part of the government? Their website is a .gov: federalreserve.gov
 
8:39 PM
I gotta go.
 
user2509848
OK, see you.
 
user2509848
9:29 PM
Hey, all of you WPF people. Please vote on this suggestion: windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-suggestions/…
 
@hosch250 you didn't fall for it did you?
 
user2509848
Fall for what?
 
user2509848
@NETscape
 
thats windows.uservoice.com, not uservoice.windows.com
 
user2509848
OK, that is why it didn't ask for my password.
 
user2509848
9:40 PM
I got that website from a different, reputable website featuring Windows news, so I just thought it was from MS.
 
not sure what isn't safe, but almost everything didn't load. looks like a really ugly website to me.
 
user2509848
OK, it looks exactly like MS's websites.
 
i'm just suspicious of it for obvious reasons
 
user2509848
uservoice.windows.com isn't a site.
 
user2509848
I'm suspicious now too, but it didn't ask for my password.
 
user2509848
9:42 PM
Hmm, I'm not the only one, every link goes to the correct MS website, and there are tons of people on there.
 
right, i'm pretty sure its illegal to use windows branding on your website when you're not licensed by them.
 
user2509848
I'm sure. That site is linked everywhere on the web, so MS should take notice soon.
 
user2509848
I know, I will do a chat with them.
 
lol thats how the first phishing attacks for facebook started popping up. someone could just copy paste html and have the login button submit info to some other site
 
user2509848
Yeah, like I said though, it didn't ask for my pass, just my email.
 
9:43 PM
get that spam button ready! ;)
 
user2509848
OK, I've been there.
 
haha wtf is going on with that site?
interestingly enough click on Contact Us has no data
sweet, a "blog" with no comments enabled
 
user2509848
First time I've fallen for this.
 
user2509848
I would just submit data through the feedback app, but I don't have the preview installed because of school.
 
user2509848
I think MS's entire webpage is hi-jacked.
 
user2509848
9:53 PM
A bunch pages cannot connect, Xbox Music and Games can't connect, the pages are not displaying correctly...
 
user2509848
Nice talking to you, but I have to go now.
 
i believe you're correct
interesting
might be chrome? idk
 
user2509848
10:35 PM
I don't use chrome.
 
user2509848
I use IE.
 
user2509848
@NETscape Solved the problem. I had turned SSL 3.0 off.
 
user2509848
Now my apps are logging in correctly and everything.
 
10:52 PM
haha
keep ssl3.0 off
or see the link in the star bar
SSL 3 is dead, killed by the POODLE attack
 
user2509848
Yeah.
 
user2509848
MS had better fix this soon.
 
user2509848
11:03 PM
What are the odds of being attacked by Poodle, and if I am, will my AV detect it?
 
user2509848
I really miss some of my music.
 
user2509848
11:31 PM
OK, I got ahold of them (via a browser that I cannot disable SSL through):
 
user2509848
Marc G:
6:28:06 PM
Oh my. Thank you for letting us know this information Abraham.
 
user2509848
Marc G:
6:28:57 PM
Please do not provide any of your Credentials on that website.
We are able to verify and that website is not affiliated with Microsoft.
 
user2509848
Marc G:
6:30:52 PM
And I will forward this information to our Fraud department so we can make action about this case.
 

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