« first day (732 days earlier)      last day (3417 days later) » 

12:23 AM
Ok, im back
 
 
1 hour later…
user2509848
1:23 AM
@NETscape Still here?
 
user2509848
This is my video: onedrive.live.com/…
 
user2509848
Can I do strikethrough and bold in here, anybody?
 
1:46 AM
hey
three - on each side of word
word
@hosch250 you around?
i watched it. not bad at all. much more prepared than i was, I was more of a wing it kind of person. I only had a couple notes. Don't worry about memorizing your speech word for word. The reason I good at winging it was because I kept things like definitions general enough so that my statements stayed true while the way I said it might have a few words changed around and what not. If that makes sense. Just loosen up and know the material enough so that if someone tries to put you on
the spot about something, you can fire back at them quickly, swiftly. Don't be afraid to be wrong either. the more you worry about having your speech 100% memorized, the more likely you'll be to get distracted and mess up.
That goes to say, if you ever catch yourself making a mistake, like correcting yourself saying "its students," then going back and saying his or her... that's a great catch. maybe sneak in a "sorry, I mean his or her students..." give some kind of cue that you're going back to correct yourself maybe. people might not remember his/her is a correction to its. just a small
last at ~0:48, you say "I found 6 types of speeches..." it should be, "there are 6 types of speeches..." which is probably intuitive to you, inform me of how many there are; don't tell me you found that many because i might think there are more out there to find!
lastly at 0:22 you say "An example of these types of speeches..." should probably be "Examples of these types of speeches are..." or "An example of ___ speech is ____; an example of ____ speech is _____."
oh one last thing, not sure how your professor expects it, but you went with a:
1. 2. 1a. 2a. 1b. 2b approach which can be hard to follow. If anything, maybe switch it up.
"There are two types of X. The first type, type Xa is a something like yada yada yada. An example of Xa is ________. The other type, type Xb, is something such as yidee yidee yidee. This is most recognizable in cases like _________."
if i was taking examples, and you tell me the two types, I'm going to want to write them down but leave enough space for each type. Then when you define each only I have to change location of my pen for each topic. Then you give an example of each, and I'm praying that I have enough room after each definition... that's a bunch of hoping i have room and jumping around on my page. i hated running out of room trying to do that haha.
@hosch250 ping me when you read this and with your response if you got one... i'll read it tomorrow
15 messages moved to Trash can
@EliteGamer you'll need to use INPC and observable collections. also you don't need to use Hierarchical if all items are going to look the same, if I remember correctly.
 
user2509848
2:44 AM
OK, thanks for the review, NETscape.
 
user2509848
First off, I did not memorize my speech word-for-word, my professor wanted us to give it extemporaneously - with a typed outline, but nothing more. If I was going to memorize it, I would certainly have written it better and caught some of those problems.
 
user2509848
I will remember about not being afraid to be wrong, but will always try to be correct anyway.
 
user2509848
You are correct about the nouns/verbs needing to match. I had quite a hard time with this - you should be thankful you were not there on the first day - half the time I didn't get past the first couple sentences I was so nervous. I greatly improved by the end of the day, and gave that speech on Sunday night - it was due today.
 
user2509848
I will remember about people perhaps taking organized notes and not wanting to run out of room.
 
user2509848
One thing you didn't catch was that I called Dr. Martin Luther King Dr. Luther King once by mistake.
 
user2509848
2:54 AM
Or maybe you just didn't mention it.
 
user2509848
Oh, and here is your ping, @NETscape
 
3:30 AM
@hosch Oh I am only trying to be constructive here, it was pretty damn good. I didn't think you memorized it, I'm just saying you seemed tense and being nervous explains it, I would've been as well esp. if it was in front of family. When it's a group of peers you can tell yourself they are nobody to me so idc what they say, family has no problem calling stuff out haha, at least my family. I wouldn'teven have the guts to post it if you had asked for mine. I'd of given you a good grade.
Strong points were that you were aware of your mistakes. Saying it then correcting to his/her speaks volumes. I'd of taken points away as a teacher because I'd think I'm not an it.

But yeah, so long as you made progress from square one, then thumbs up.
I did hear something was off when you said dr. Luther King but I was too busy listening to the previous note I was writing down. Haha.

All in all I hope it was a learning experience. You should feel good about coming so far along... Going from struggling to speak to public speaking to family is a big step. Realize that it's not that hard and you can overcome it no matter whose in the crowd.
Which translates to work. If a coworker tells you you're wrong, and you have facts to back up your rightness. Stick it to em! Haha. It all starts with public speaking for some people really.
 
 
7 hours later…
10:38 AM
holy cow people - whats with huge paragraphs!
 
10:53 AM
Morning
 
11:33 AM
anyone good at c++ callbacks? :)
I don't dare asking in the C++ room... they will only mock me :´(
 
never done them but i'm sure professor google has
 
mm
I'm a little unfocused here... the hunt for the underwater operations continues. and it's exciting!
 
12:38 PM
Unfocused? Well, I'm here to fix that!
 
 
1 hour later…
1:43 PM
I'm sure billdr already knows this, but for the rest of us: get rid of SSL3 if you can
 
TLS1.2 for life!
or until TLS1.3 is ratified and scrutinized.
 
yea i'm on TLS 1.1 / 1.2 (only 2 supported)
 
how do we know if we are using ssl 3.0?
 
(you may want to choose to hide your domain from test if you've never done this before)
 
hi
 
1:51 PM
disabling TLS 1.0 has one side effect: you probably will lose RDP to Win2K8 R2 servers or any rdp configured to use ssl as it is hardcoded to use 1.0 even when you have higher available
Hey Netscape
Regarding IIS Crypto: my personal mix is: Start with "Best Practices" template
disable SSL 3 / TLS 1.0 / RC4 / MD5
this will break IIS 6 on XP (and RDP if you're using SSL security) .. but everything else is fine
(bill feel free to add your recommendation here)
for RDP the easy fix is to switch to Negotiate layer
Implement HSTS (super easy to do, just look it up in google)
and you should have an A+ (or A if you're using SHA1 certificates) grade on your sites.
 
all this web talk...?
 
the site should also come up as FIPS & PCI compliant now
well we still have to deal with webservices so IIS config becomes relevant to an extent
 
I thought that RDP had a patch to fix that nonsense?
 
by Nov 25th, Google will disable SSL3 support in chrome
i believe mozilla will fix it around same time...
@Billdr I've tried finding that but failed
 
I don't remember if IE6 supports the newer SSL/TLSes, hopefully you don't have to support it.
 
1:57 PM
IE6 shouldn't even be alive - so i couldn't care less :)
i think IE6 can support it with some fiddling
but really why would you!
 
It's fading. I still get a stray request to support it. Thankfully my boss has a spine.
 
yea i killed XP (and IE6) about a year and half back
I remember getting my boss to agree that we won't do any new development for xp in early 2013
and legacy stuff will fade by the time xp dies in 2014
worked out pretty nicely - now i'm waiting for my management to move to 4.5
its a very slow rollout >.>
 
Team of one, on a web shop. I have all the powah! :D
 
well i do too - my own servers are running windows tp server with 4.5.3 beta :P
(yes in production!)
 
Madman
 
2:01 PM
but rest of the infrastructure is on .net 4 (that i barely got them to roll out as they were stuck on 3.5 sp1)
but with new windows 2012 r2 servers starting to roll out really slowly - another year and i'll have .net 4.5 >.>
though i'm guessing by then .net 5 will be coming out
and i'll back in same cycle!
 
in the mean time, i just uninstalled VS2005!
 
oh.. my servers also have VS 14 remote debugging tools of CTP4 xD
i couldn't find more bleeding stuff :D
(but my servers are pretty isolated in general so i'm not particularly worried about using beta)
 
whats the ip address of your servers? 0_o
 
especially my TP servers
10.230.0.211
have at it!
 
whats the public address?
 
2:04 PM
if there was one, i would have given you one :P
i dont write websites remember - i only do web services that have no need for public exposure
 
pshh
no fun
 
i did say my servers are pretty isolated
 
aye
 
i run them in production to see when they fail and why :)
 
worth a try
 
2:05 PM
cos in dev mode, they're mostly like "works on my machine"
 
haha welcome to my life
 
still.. i haven't had any failure yet
and i didn't have any on windows 2012 dev preview either
infact i managed to run exchange 2010 on it which we're not supposed to do xD
 
cause they are isolated... you're probably the only one with access to them ;)
 
mostly yea
 
so in production, you're the only live user? 0_o
 
2:07 PM
they are part of core so other admins have access to but people stay away from my stuff
eh no.. there's about 800 users logged in right now ;)
 
pull the plug!!
 
i'll have to pull entire thing down for that to happen
(i'm guessing you're forgetting that we're a hosting company)
 
pull the plug!!
create a mess just for the hell of it!
 
even if a server dies, the requests will just get routed to others in cluster
lol
i still like my job - so i'll wait a few days xD
 
haha
 
2:12 PM
btw, can we have temp stars for the ssl3 stuff please
in case there's somebody here who hasn't seen it but is affected
all three please, and thanks :)
 
All three?
 
IIS Crypto
 
got it.
 
and check :) - thank you
 
gosh, so needy ;)
hopefully no one needs them and figured it out last week when it all went down
 
2:17 PM
star whore :(
i didn't need it since i secured my servers the moment i configured them but i didn't know about this latest thing
(i was itching to find a reason to get rid of ssl3 but couldn't find one before this!)
is there a way to know what all the subdomains are of a domain without access to ls on a ns server
according to SO there's no easy way of doing this.. so i guess i'll have to dig up official documents and figure out where we're hosted these days!
(how i hate going into knowledgebase.. that has so much knowledge you forget what you were looking for, nevermind the versions that don't indicate which one is effective right now!)
 
you mean like, ______.stackexchange.com?
finding all the "____" possibilities
 
2:36 PM
well you sound like you're talking about bruteforcing?
I'm talking more like dir for stackexchange.com\*
this is interesting! i had to use \\ to get that \ to appear
not sure how that worked.. may be a markdown thing
yea i guess cos i think it thought i want to escape *
 
3:20 PM
ahhh
what is remote debugging ?
 
code runs on device a, can be inspected on device b.
 
3:38 PM
i can't run vs in production
so to figure out wtf is happening, i connect remotely using Remote Debugging Tools + VS Attach Process to see that stuff :)
SO tells me that my first ever wpf answer has earned me a net 256 rep and a silver badge :)
 
figured as much... but its useful for what scenario? debuggin web app running on server?
 
its amazing that none of the more challenging answers ever got a quarter of that even
yea
 
sorry, lost connection
 
well debugging anything on server really
 
right.. why not just put VS on machine :)
sorry for dumb questions
 
3:47 PM
I ordered a small, personal pizza. I paid for a small, personal pizza. They delivered a huge (medium) pizza.
I can eat this entire thing.
I won't eat this entire thing.
 
they delivered not big enough* (medium) pizza.
You will share
with the room
 
Working from home. Guess you can come over?
 
@NETscape isn't always an option / practical
 
you won't even let me go with you to FL
ping me once, please
 
You can come with, you just cant sleep six inches from me.
 
3:50 PM
@NETscape pinggeddd
 
i'm not trying to poke you at night
 
@NETscape ping.
 
thats why they have two beds.
(thanks)
 
They are very close together. Like... I might accidentally poke you in the morning.
 
user2509848
IE is ahead of Chrome/FireFox for once!!!
 
3:52 PM
i mean what?
 
user2509848
I just disabled all SSL and TLS except for TLS 3.0/
 
damnit. Can I get room owner rights for a second?
 
user2509848
Can somebody please get me a time machine?
 
user2509848
I need to submit a biology assignment on October 20, 2013, and another on November 11, 2012.
 
user2509848
@NETscape Thanks for the review - I will be sure to remember these points for my next assignments.
 
user2509848
4:22 PM
I just found from a link my Biology teacher gave us that Winnie-the-Pooh has ADHD and OCD, while Piglet has Generalized Anxiety Disorder.
 
user2509848
Some people are sooooo dumb.
 
user2509848
(Just to be labeling like this. Piglet was nervous, but he was a "very small animal".)
 
i think Mac OSX has time machine... you could check those out!
 
user2509848
Yeah, not the kind I need though!
 
5:34 PM
safe to delete everything in C:\Temp you think?
 
5:53 PM
make a copy if you hesitant :D
 
6:03 PM
@poke ...poke...
 
Christ ... who flagged now to call poke in!
(i'll apologise regardless for distrurbance @ poke)
 
what?
did i miss something?
 
6:21 PM
I was just greeting him :/
 
7:04 PM
Custom control question here. If your custom control has a collection of something, to be able to wire that up in xaml, does that collection have to be a custom class or can it be just a List<>?
 
user2509848
7:20 PM
@BrandenBoucher I think the normal thing is to use an ObservableCollection<>.
 
user2509848
I do not think it needs to be a custom class, you may need to make sure it knows how to handle the collection, but it will probably know by inheritance from its parents (I am assuming you inherited it from an existing control).
 
@hosch250 this is a custom control based from just usercontrol. The collection needs to be populated in xaml
Not bound
like adding items to a listbox in xaml
 
8:08 PM
@BrandenBoucher I believe you can just use List, but you need to implement INotifyCollectionChanged
which is what ObservableCollection does for you IIRC
 
I get the feeling we are thinking of two different things
Lets say you created a new custom usercontrol. You also have a custom class derived from DependencyObject. Look at this code.
public class MyControl : UserControl
{
public List<MyCustomDO> MyDepObjs { get; set; }
}

public class MyCustomDO : DependencyObject
{
public int MyProperty { get; set; }

}
how would you populate MyDepObjs in xaml if you were to use MyControl somewhere?
 
You'd have to create a DP for MyDepObjs I guess.
then bind to it
its the same concept as ItemsControl's ItemsSource.
 
What about for the columns collection of a DataGrid?
how is that done?
You don't bind with that
 
as in Columns="{Binding Cols}"?
Columns, thats a dependency property.
 
    <DataGrid>
        <DataGrid.Columns>
            <DataGridTextColumn />
        </DataGrid.Columns>
    </DataGrid>
or
    <DataGrid>
        <DataGrid.Columns>
            <DataGridTextColumn />
        </DataGrid.Columns>
    </DataGrid>
shit
 
8:18 PM
you could also do <DataGrid Columns="{Binding cols}" />
 
but that's not my question
 
I would hope you would do <local:MyControl Columns="{Binding cols}">
the only way to do that is a dependency property
unless you plan on only binding datacontext?
you might mean itemspresenter?
I'm sure @Julien would know since he's anti-datagrid
@BrandenBoucher do you have an example of what you're trying to do in xaml?
 
well, thanks anyways. That's not what I'm looking to do and I don't have any plans to
I did
<DataGrid>
<DataGrid.Columns>
<DataGridTextColumn />
</DataGrid.Columns>
</DataGrid>
same thing <DataGrid.Columns> does
maybe I should have done this:
<DataGrid>
    <DataGrid.Columns>
        <DataGridTextColumn />
        <DataGridTextColumn />
        <DataGridTextColumn />
        <DataGridTextColumn />
        <DataGridTextColumn />
        <DataGridTextColumn />
    </DataGrid.Columns>
</DataGrid>
Anyways, switched it to an observablecollection as @hosch250 suggested and that is at least not throwing an error now.
 
make it an observablecollection
 
hi-five @NETscape
 
I don't know if you missed it, but -- public ObservableCollection<DataGridColumn> Columns { get; }
 
ya... Got it. hahahah
 
datagrids are evil
 
God yes they are
 
8:34 PM
do you need column sorting
and/or cell navigation
 
its the same problems he's been on for a couple weeks now i believe. trying to optimize loading with a not so flat model structure
 
lovely
 
Yep. And the amount is just too much. Made a control from scratch in code-behind that worked pretty damn good. Now trying to move it into it's own UserControl.
Not sure how the hell I, or when, I am going to move the collection (which happens to be column headers) into the StackPanel they will be going in.
Honestly, this feels like an intrinsic WPF issue. WPF itself is just markup text. When you create the objects in code-behind, you are actually creating the objects, not templates.
Unless I am wrong about that...
 
XAML is just markup text
the wpf engine creates those objects and binds the two, if i'm not mistaken
 
That's what I though.
 
8:40 PM
the controls themselves are WPF
 
Yes, I think I may have switched some syntax there
You're pretty much right though. XAML is the markup and the controls are WPF based.
 
its not a WPF issue, its a microsoft issue
as you saw with the code behind. out of the box datagrid is just bad, and thats why every 3rd party controls company makes millions!
but I'm wondering about the way you're approaching putting everything in <UserControl>... it almost sounds like you might want to create an actual custom control
 
Well, I might have misunderstood. I thought the basis for a custom control was UserControl?
or are you saying I should have a base class without any xaml?
And ya, I didn't mean to imply it was a WPF issue. It's an issue the way xaml in the context of WPF is implemented.
 
9:01 PM
you did measure the time it takes to run the DB query and create all the objects right?
you pick your base class depending on what your needs are
 
ya, that was less than 1 second
well, < 1 mean time over the run of different parameters
max of about 2.5 sec
But the problem wasn't just the load time. Scrolling was God awfully slow.
 
are all your columns just text?
cell*
 
interesting
you said it could be 20 to 200 columns, right?
up to 500 rows
or 2-20 cols x 5000 rows
 
yep
sry for the delay in response. hammering out the code while we talk and watching EEVBlog
 
9:15 PM
haha interesting!
 
why that blog? school or something? just hobby?
 
Hoppy
lol
Hobby
It seems to also help occupy some party of my brain that needs to be distracted while I code. Sometimes...
 
9:33 PM
i know exactly what you mean
people talking in the cubes next to me i can't stand, but listening to music will let me focus
 
9:46 PM
So true. Especially hearing people slurp tea
 
problem here is high pitch voices & laughter.
 
10:02 PM
Honestly, that's half the reason I'll just wear my headphones sometimes without anything on. Maybe I just don't like people all that much in general.
 
10:37 PM
we are the same
 
11:21 PM
Still more questions. My custom control has some binding properties. I added my control to a test window and had my test window implement INotifyPropertyChanged. Problem is, nothing seems to be subscribing to the PropertyChanged event. Shouldn't that happen automatically in my custom control if I have bound some properties?
And, yes, I set my datacontext = this in the test window.
 
user2509848
11:33 PM
Are you calling OnPropertyChanged?
 
user2509848
Implement this code:
 
user2509848
public event PropertyChangedEventHandler PropertyChanged;
        protected virtual void OnPropertyChanged([CallerMemberName] string propertyName = null)
        {
            PropertyChangedEventHandler handler = PropertyChanged;
            if (handler != null)
            {
                handler(this, new PropertyChangedEventArgs(propertyName));
            }
        }
 
user2509848
Then call OnPropertChanged("BindingValue"); whenever you change the value.
 
11:48 PM
Again. Sry for the delay.
Yea, I am implementing it pretty much verbatim.
That's where I saw that handler was null. So nothing in my custom control is subscribing to PropertyChanged I guess.
 

« first day (732 days earlier)      last day (3417 days later) »