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8:00 PM
oooh damn ebay
yeah man I am getting the collectors edition can't wait
 
@SomeGuy You are in college too, aren't you?
 
Yep
 
Which year?
 
First year in BE
 
ahh, you too from science xD. Good luck...
 
8:01 PM
heh I remember buying that game on release, worked at Taco Bell at the time ,couldnt wait to get home off shift, ran so awesome on my 475 amd k62
it still looks fucking great actually
 
Haha yep. Thanks
 
one of those games that aged really well
 
Ok real g'night.... Alt+F4
 
o/
 
8:03 PM
@Loktar \o
@SomeGuy be computer science ?
 
oh I was waving bye to Awal :P
 
@Loktar It didn't have cheat codes. Up until I played Homeworld, I'd just cheat through everything.
 
haha
 
Homeworld actually taught me to play
 
I loved zooming in on the units and watching the guns fire and stuff
man it was so cool
 
8:04 PM
The question now is, should I try again on eBay or just suck it up and eat the $50?
 
idk man id just grab it from Amazon
 
@Loktar i take my \o back
 
or local if you can @SomeKittensUx2666
wonder if bestbuy in your area has one
they will price match Amazon/Newegg/ect.
ah looks like its online only via BB
 
/me checks budget
 
do you have Amazon Prime?
 
8:06 PM
nope
Oh, wow, I've got more than I thought
I don't order enough stuff from Amazon to justify Prime
 
@Abhishek IT. CS has too much hardware
 
@SomeGuy smart guy :-)
i wish i would off taken IT so much :-/
IT is also relatively newer syllabus wise [idk your uni though].
So what are you studying in the first semester ? [ Engineering Drawing there ? ]
 
Engineering Drawing is part of the second semester
For the first we have Math, Physics, Chem, Basic Electric and Electronic Engineering, and Engineering Mechanics
 
That's a very small number of courses
 
We also have 3 hours of Workshop each week, where we learn the basics of carpentery, plumbing, and a few more things, which is very cool
@Zirak Those are the subjects we have for the first 6 months
 
8:14 PM
Could you fork over chemistry stuff? I'm in a severe lack of good basic material
 
A few subjects change every semester
 
@SomeGuy Note that it was complete sarcasm. That's a bagigaload of stuff!
 
@SomeGuy Enjoying the maths ? [i loved the basic material engineering workshops too]
 
Do they know you're human?
 
Hahaha, I don't think so
@Abhishek Math has been pretty fun so far
BEEE is a pretty awesome subject too
 
8:16 PM
I scored A+ in BEEE :D, studied almost nothing :P
you have have a hell lot subjects for first sem :x
 
@Zirak Define "fork over"
 
we had Communication Skills, Maths, Chem, BEEE and ED[and i hate it still], BME came for us in second sem (Workshops)
 
wow, Indian colleges are hard
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 until you realize nobody reads what you write in exams
they are.
 
Communication Skills is optional for us, luckily
 
8:18 PM
"us" being "developers in general"
 
@SomeGuy urm, magically transfer
 
@SomeGuy you probably are gonna have fun learning ADA
 
Don't know what ADA is
 
Ask @FlorianMargaine
 
Don't google it will result in the languge ADA
 
8:19 PM
Oh
Then don't ask @FlorianMargaine
 
@Zirak we had a subject just teaching algorithms
that was awesome :D
 
@SomeKittens The Communication Skills subject we have is basically, "Here, improve your English so you can call yourself John when someone asks your name"
 
Hi Some
@Abhishek Oh, yeah, that sounds like fun. Except for the fact that we'll probably have to implement them in Java
 
@SomeGuy for us they were in c.... beat that.
mostly everybody cried xD
 
8:22 PM
I'm still excited about some of the subjects. We've got AI later, I think
 
@SomeGuy lucky :-)
Had I not quit college I would learn Cloud Computing and AI this year
but meh... the college has broken my bubble of being able to teach me anything.
> Javascript cannot have a GC, only JVM does
-- my teacher who taught us about GC
 
Introduce him to Rhino
 
wish i knew existence of doppio
i would off shown him rhino running in doppio in node.js
@Zirak i quit my college :P so meh don't wanna see their faces again
 
@SecondRikudo Hi, Can you help me? sorry, that I bother you.
Guys can you help me with keeping bootstrap dropdown open on click?
 
I wanna write an article about how we use angular.js to abstract using node-webkit, jni-js-binding, c-objc-js-binding, network service. In our app should I ? [i did NOT write the JNI or Obj C part though]
 
8:33 PM
Sure, why not?
 
@SomeGuy , @Loktar prntscr.com/4i33j0 can that be drawn as a path ?
@SomeGuy i want to launch the app first :-)
 
I would say yes, but I'm an SVG nub
 
in canvas ?
I want to animate it :-) as in the good old sketching this animation
 
@AbhishekHingnikar of course
every set of any line can be drawn as a path
 
As he said, yeah
 
8:48 PM
any better?
I have no idea about how to implement a somewhat good anti-aliasing in paint
 
@towc No
 
you mean, I should not implement it or there is no good AA in paint?
or the overall thing is just completely wrong
 
Just... no.
I'm kidding, there's no AA function in paint :P Don't try.
 
awww
oooh
 
Unless you do it manually completely
i.e. apply 2-3 layers of pixels around the edges
 
8:54 PM
?
 
Have you ever looked on an AA image up close?
 
yes
 
Doing AA manually involves blurring a bit of the outer edges of everything with the colors around it
It's a lousy explanation
But in all seriousness, just do it in photoshop XD
 
Paint.NET
 
m59
silly goose ^
or just hack away
 
8:59 PM
@KendallFrey what about it?
 
m59
I didn't think anyone had ever seriously included all of their server credentials in SO posts.
 
@m59 Flagged for revision wipe.
@m59 I've seen it several times.
host + user + password
 
m59
wow
 
Some users will just copy/paste code into Stack Overflow. Usually code that belongs to their company, and not to themselves
 
9:02 PM
@Sterling did it too
Albeit only to rlemon
Why the hell did I use albeit? I'm talking all funny
 
m59
It was appropriate :)
 
Yeah, still an odd word to use in regular conversation!
 
m59
hmm, not for me. I hear it often enough.
 
!!define albeit
 
@towc [albeit](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki?curid=89241) although, despite being
He has a very good idea, albeit a strange one.
 
I used to show to Miszy the backend of my pages
so that he could tell me how much was everything wrong
also, a guy on freelancer needed some quick help, and gave me all of the source files of a website of his company
including php and stuff
it was pretty funny
he didn't pay me after I just told him to add 3 lines of js on one of those pages...
'job was too simple'
his initial price was 20€
 
lol
Job was too simple?
 
he wanted the user to be automatically redirected from a page to another
 
m59
In economics, things are worth whatever people will pay.
 
If it were too simple, why haven't you done it yourself?
What you should have told him ^
 
9:12 PM
I actually also didn't have paypal at the time
so I said 'ok' because I had no idea about how to actually get the money
 
m59
@towc general cost per line of logical code (lines with actual logic...not just a brace or semi-colon, etc) is $10 - $20 US.
That means you contributed $30 - $60 :)
 
wow...
 
@m59 I don't like this sort of billing.
 
how are some games sold at 1$ even in the us?
 
You provide a service, your service has a value to the customer.
 
m59
9:14 PM
@SecondRikudo I agree, I was just making a point. It was relevant.
 
Bill according to the value your service has to the client.
Yeah, I agree there.
@towc If you sell a game for $1 to 20 million people, it adds up.
 
m59
I mean, when statistics say $30 - $60 and the guy says "too simple", you know there's a problem.
 
Of course, there are taxes and fees and whatnot
 
so, if I sell a game only to 1 guy, I shall ask him $20M?
 
@towc Think about it this way
If you find that one guy to sell the game to, you're a millionaire instantly :D
 
9:16 PM
seems legit
Me:"hey! guy! want to buy this game?"
Guy:"Sure, how much is it?"
Me:"Statistics made by me (and I'm definitely a good mathematician) say that this game would sell about 1Bl copies by 2800, if every copy was priced 10€, but you can be the sole owner and buy it for only 10Bl!"
 
m59
Another perspective: I've spent thousands of hours developing my programming ability. You could argue that a single line of code that I write might require thousands of hours of investment. Sure, it's one line, but unless the client wants to spend that time learning for themselves, they need to pay someone that has.
 
Guy:"Looks awesome" *buys it*
Me:"Also, it's multiplayer only"
 
XD
Yup
@m59 @towc when someone hires you, he doesn't hire you to write stuff. He can hire a typist for that, they cost less. He hires you for your expertise, an expertise that the client does not have.
 
m59
^
 
So regardless of how much time was invested, payment should be pre-agreed and paid regardless if it took 5 hours or 5 minutes.
5KB of code or just 5 lines.
 
9:21 PM
ok, you're all right
 
That "solution too simple" guy, if it were me I would have been tempted to involve my lawyer.
Don't ever sell yourself short.
 
so, I can just look for lousy requests on freelancer and become a millionaire
 
@towc No
 
m59
When I was freelance, I was interested in freelancer, but I don't get the impression it's very good work.
 
@SecondRikudo as I said, it was ok for me, since I had no idea about how to get the money
 
9:23 PM
Look for the freelancer jobs where both sides understand that the contents of the solution don't matter, but it's the value that it brings.
@towc Yeah, I guess you can't change history.
 
probably if that was me in 5 years I'd get some legal actions aswell
 
m59
Programmers are in demand. In 5 years, you could be making big money with a company :)
 
hopefully
 
node-webkit + git === autoupdate apps like a boss
 
in 2 days I'll have my latin resit exam
which I only have a 50% chance of passing
should I leave school and already start working if I don't pass?
it would be a wasted year to continue it
 
9:33 PM
No
 
reasons?
 
You probably want to study
 
Yeah, I don't think you should leave school
 
yes, but studying specific stuff, stuff that I actually need, is better than also studying latin, history, really bad english and french...
 
College you could consider dropping. School, hell no
 
9:36 PM
also, the math, geometry and science level is really realy low
it's highschool
 
Yeah, I figured
 
Those are the basics everybody must have
 
here it isn't that rare to find someone that has dropped from highschool
do I need latin at all???
 
Just because it's common doesn't mean that's what's best for you
@towc A language isn't a bad skill to have
 
Well, Latin is actually retarded, but the rest
 
9:38 PM
@SomeGuy I know english very well, enough french, romanian, italian, then if you want to count js, html, css, c++...
 
@towc You know, at this point you have lots of free time to develop your programming skills
 
and school would catch up with my math, geometry and science probably only on the forth year
and I'm in first
 
Oh, yeah, I regret not having learned more during school
@towc Well, that's good. You won't need to study for school, then.
 
so... there really should be no reason for me to lose 3 years doing almost nothing, but study stuff like latin
@SomeGuy in fact I don't for those 3 subjects
also, english
they're currently studying 'will' at school
learnt pretty much just verbs and basic vocabulary
 
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10:21 PM
whats up guys
 
10:37 PM
 
11:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I think I'm going to use tomorrow to run some errands I would have to take a day off for. Hope you guys have fun!
 
11:53 PM
Hi
 

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