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9:00 PM
yeah
 
!!afk riding to work in freezing rain
 
back to closures lads
 
!!welcome papaoutai
 
@papaoutai Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user3925778
@SecondRikudo no because God is in nature is not some vindicative person
 
9:00 PM
It's not too late, it's never too late... cue guitar riff
 
@monners Isn't Australia constantly on fire?
 
@papaoutai Your God, perhaps.
 
user3925778
also buddhist faith has god and its same 4 muslim christian and jewish people
 
@papaoutai People die, do they not? Did God not conceive the reason for which people die? In other words, is a tornado not created by God?
 
9:01 PM
buddhist don't belive in god
or so i thought
 
My God was the Sage of Six Paths, who, according to my belief, killed millions, and revived millions.
 
BotTip: if you are offended.. leave.
 
user3925778
read between the lines olive
 
@michael adair, on click of the tabs, assign a function which can ajax-fetch your TD data from server side and replace the innerHTML. I guess change in jade is not required.
 
they believe in buddha and reincarnation
 
9:01 PM
My God is Zirak. and I have it on good authority he does kill people. #just-saying
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ProTip: Everyone's religion is wrong, and everyone's religion is right, and James Franco really is as cool as we all think he is.
 
but yes I actually agree on your point @papa
 
user3925778
because many atheist believe religious people believe in a person with human traits
 
@papaoutai
 
user3925778
:-)
 
9:02 PM
i do think its somewhat inconsiderate
but this is the interwebs
 
@papaoutai Christians, Jews and Muslims all believe in a single male God.
 
@SecondRikudo male? no.
 
user3925778
its just that people inserted traditional traits in religion .. if u remove tradition u have pure true religion
 
user3925778
this is my opinion ofc
 
A single male God who can talk to people, predict the future, and prove a point by kiling millions of Egyptian children.
 
9:03 PM
@SecondRikudo I'd say that the Christian Trinity makes that both right and wrong.
 
it helps to describe him using a 'he' but none believe he has actual gender
 
@olive_tree Wrong again, Jesus was undoubtedly a dude.
 
@olive_tree @SomeKittensUx2666 according to the original Hebrew bible, God is male.
 
@ArinCool lol in this project, I'm not really in charge of the server side lol (webdev ftw)... is there not a way to change what each td equals using js?
 
some protestant sects don't believe in trinity
quite a few in Africa actually
 
user3925778
9:04 PM
that is because jewish people like muslim and christian people cudnt explain it good to people of that time
 
@olive_tree A far cry from the 'all' in your assertion.
 
@papaoutai You should take this to heart. Don't get offended over religion. I believe in a human god who single handedly defeated a different god with 10 tails.
 
> Although God is referred to in the Hebrew Bible with masculine imagery and grammatical forms, Jewish philosophy does not attribute to God either sex or gender.
 
Can you tell me that my belief is wrong?
 
educate yourself mate
 
9:05 PM
@second it's older than BB working with $q
 
user3925778
try to think if religion was born now
 
yes you can @michael adair only if you have the variables available on your jade page. you can store them in js vars and refer to them on click events of tabs
 
@papaoutai Yeah, I can see it hapenning
"My father was God!"
That would probably go well
 
user3925778
that guy wudnt have explain with mystical terms but straight to scientific verifiable facts
 
Lol religion is silly
 
9:06 PM
@SecondRikudo To be fair, it didn't go over too well in 33AD either.
 
@papaoutai Here's my take on this, since you already opened the door.
 
@ArinCool Could you possibly add me on skype :P? I might need a bit of extra help with this... also would jquery work?
 
@SecondRikudo Holy crap, dude! Where do I sign up for your religion!?
 
technically even some scientific facts are taken at a 'leap of faith'
 
Religion is nothing more than an extra tool to control a herd of people, by telling them that they'll be rewarded/punished if they do good/bad things.
 
user3925778
9:06 PM
Yes maybe
 
God doesn't kill people, God is something People invented because life is hard
 
user3925778
ur telling me ur not jewish?
 
Please use proper English
 
Both me and @BenjaminGruenbaum are "Jewish". That doesn't make us believers.
 
9:07 PM
Jewish the religion !== Jewish the ethnicity
 
user3925778
i understand
 
Science changes its perspective based on observation. Religion is the dismissal of observation to preserve faith.
 
user3925778
@BenjaminGruenbaum teach me proper english maybe?
 
@SecondRikudo you certainly got the god is male thing wrong for a jew
 
Scientology should be evidence enough to demonstrate that people would follow a religion created by a man bent on making profits
 
9:08 PM
I, not i
If you can't type use autocorrect or something
 
sorry @michael adair but rite now its not possible. but maybe in the morning
 
They don't have to necessarily be older religions for people to believe in them
 
@olive_tree I refer to God as a male. When I refer to Him I say "He said", not "She said" or "It said" or "They said".
 
user3925778
scientology smells a lot and is crap
 
Hence, God is a male. Even if you want to conceptually not bind yourself to a specific gender.
 
9:09 PM
@olive_tree And you got it wrong for Christianity.
 
user3925778
you cudnt even say the word of god
 
First word in a sentence is capitalized
 
user3925778
y..w.
 
You couldn't even say the word of "couldn't"
 
@SecondRikudo You forget that it was translated into english from Hebrew, and in english, you wouldn't refer to a superior being as "it"
 
9:09 PM
@ArinCool Okay, Well could you possibly write down my skype name michaeladair1996, I'm no on here a lot...
 
@papaoutai I can say the same for Religion in general.
 
@SecondRikudo o? so you changed from a factual basis to your own opinion. I was talking about Judaisim.
 
Fuck it, I'm going to have a beer with friends
 
@Neil In Hebrew you'd say זה
 
user3925778
i just meant jewish people, because u have to refer to him another way
 
9:10 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 not really, i pointed out that there are sects that don't believe in that. Maybe wasn't clear enough though. Though my point still stands for Judaisim and Islam.
 
@papaoutai So?
 
user3925778
yes i studied jewish a little i know :-)
 
@SecondRikudo in google translate, that translates to "it" in english
 
@olive_tree Meh, I'm just waiting for the Aeon of Horus to arrive.
 
heh
 
9:11 PM
@Neil That's the point
 
user3925778
@SecondRikudo so i was explaining why u dont have to refer for god as he in jewish at least
 
@SecondRikudo Wait I'm confused now. You're saying god is or isn't a male?
 
@Neil The bible in Hebrew begins with "בראשית ברא אלוהים"
ברא is a male verb (In Hebrew verbs have genders based on the subject of the sentence)
So whether you want to explain later that God is not of a specific gender, you still refer to him as a He, and not a She.
 
This helped me too. I love you. — Sterling Archer 8 secs ago
I figured a dramatic comment should followed up with another just as dramatic commetn
 
user3925778
well the thing is you have not even to follow religion in sybstance .. people got wrong the concept of god .. you believe in god even if your atheist if you care about your surrounding i mean
 
9:13 PM
@SecondRikudo Well that is understandable in any case
Whether the reason is that, when translating into english, we prefer to think of god as a male (apparently not the case), or whether the reason is that the hebrews preferred to refer to him as a male, neither surprise me
 
!!mute papaoutai 1h
 
@papaoutai What is God?
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
@SomeKittensUx2666 Muted user 3925778 for 1h
 
stop spewing nonsense.
 
Ooh :( It was just getting interesting too
 
9:15 PM
@SecondRikudo Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.
 
Not to carry on, but isn't agnosticism the non-belief in god?
 
In those days, to assume god is female was a little too liberal than people were willing to accept
 
i told you we should of stuck to closures
 
@SterlingArcher More technically it's the belief that it isn't possible to know whether or not God exists.
 
@Neil Like I said. The Aeon of Horus is upon us.
 
9:16 PM
ohhh
!!define athiest
 
@SterlingArcher athiest Misspelling of atheist.
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well played
 
It is still a bit too liberal for most people
 
very well played
@Loktar out of context that starred message about your nipples gives quite the insight to your marriage ;)
You're a champion bro. Keep it up!
 
@Neil Meh, people worshipped Goddesses all the time.
The Egyptians did it, the Greek did it, the Romans did it.
 
9:18 PM
except.. they didn't quit survive
 
@olive_tree Neither will we.
 
@SecondRikudo Catholics, too. In a sense.
 
@SecondRikudo The effect of having many gods and goddesses was that most people generally had a favorite, and essentially worshipped only that favorite anyway
 
well i meant their ideas
 
Or did you have an impression that Christianity would last forever?
 
9:18 PM
@olive_tree Yeah, but the reason they didn't survive wasn't because the ancients rejected the idea of a female God
 
as in their religion of a female god
 
In polytheistic cultures defense, Catholicism was pretty brutal to deny back in the day
 
@SterlingArcher expects Spanish Inquisition
 
@SecondRikudo so far its proving that it has survived, i can't tell the future
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 I'm predicting the Canadian Inquisition
 
9:19 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
 
2033. Canada says fuck it. You no Canada? You no live.
 
you can't deny that for an idea/religion to survive, it had to do quite a few things right
 
@olive_tree In my religion, the arch Goddess is Kaguya Ootsutsuki. Also aliased the Rabbit Goddess, she has the power to destroy and remake the world in an instant.
 
@SecondRikudo Are you really cribbing notes from Naruto?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Of course.
This is how silly I view religion, and that's exactly my point
 
9:21 PM
@SecondRikudo Your point is that you view religion as silly. Congradulations.
 
There's an actual cult out there that believes that Arceus created the universe!
 
If believing in something that cannot be proven is silly, then religion is silly
 
@Neil So is causality, then.
 
If it weren't, it would be science, not religion
 
I'm not really sure if I believe in God.. I'm on the fence there. But I do not believe in organized religion.
this is probably the only existentialist writing I both understood, and liked
 
9:23 PM
@Retsam If and only if :P
 
@Neil I'm not sure I understand that response.
 
@SterlingArcher haha
 
@Retsam I mean, I'm not implying that everything that cannot be proven is religion, simply that since religion is believing something that cannot be proven, all religion is silly
 
oh hey a religious talk woot
 
@Neil Yeah, but if believing in something that isn't proven is silly, then believing in causality is silly?
 
9:25 PM
It's nice to be able to talk about religion in a place where you can say "I don't believe" and people don't flip shit on you
 
Or else you have a proof for causality? If so please apply for your Nobel Prize in Philosophy (or equivalent)
 
I'm immune to it now lol
 
m59
I'd really like to join this talk - but to avoid problems, would anyone like to join me in another room?
 
@SterlingArcher So most of the internet, then?
 
I used to think it was odd when people said they weren't religious because everyone in my life was
 
9:26 PM
@m59 I'd be up for that.
 
@Retsam heh, exactly.
 
@Retsam bro no. If anything people are more offensive on the internet
 
@m59 gooooood luck!
 
@SterlingArcher the opposite is true if you say "I believe" now though lol
 
So Adult Swim has a new show called Black Jesus and it looks utterly hilarious
 
9:27 PM
@SterlingArcher You should try professing religious faith on the internet some time, for point of comparision.
 
m59
@Retsam Doesn't look like there's much other interest :) You're arguing for theism, aren't you?
 
@Loktar Exactly. Go somewhere and say "I think Jesus was a pretty chill dude and hang out with others who think the same on Sunday" and you'll get (figuratively) crucified.
 
yeah definitely
called unintelligent ect.
also the root of all evil :P
 
@m59 Christianity, yes.
 
@Retsam I hope you can appreciate the difference between believing in causality and believing in scientology
 
m59
9:28 PM
Cool. Well, I don't think we have much to debate then =D
 
> Dear 8lbs, 6oz lord Baby Jesus
 
@Neil I wasn't talking about scientology at all, so yes.
 
No, we were talking about religion, and scientology is one type of religion, is it not?
 
?
Anyone here have Windows Phone?
 
@DemCodeLines Yes, my android phone is sitting on the window sill right now
 
m59
9:31 PM
In this room, unless generally invited to say more, I'll say that I believe everyone who makes any claims against God is using a deep belief in absolute morality in order to defend those claims, while claiming a worldview that can't support absolute morality.
 
@Neil was that supposed to be funny?
 
@Neil Uhh, legally yes, but not one I believe or care to defend.
@Neil Your argument is "believing in things that are unproven is silly"; my argument is "causality is unproven, therefore believing in causality is silly".
 
@Retsam You can't pick and choose the religion to defend you know, not if my argument is against religion in general
 
@Neil That's nonsense.
 
@m59 I think god doesn't exist, does what you wrote apply to me?
 
9:32 PM
That's like saying "if you believe in Science, you can't pick and choose, so I'm going to attack geocentrism"
 
No, that's like saying, "Believing in invisible unicorns is ludicrous but believing in God is perfectly reasonable."
 
m59
@copy err. We can talk about that elsewhere, as I said.
 
Okay, that's like saying "believing the earth is the center of the universe is ludicrous, but believing the sun is the center of the solar system is perfectly reasonable"
 
nice @Retsam
I believe in God probably why I make phat checks just sayin
if you want to make good money believe in God.
I feel suddenly alone in the chats.. everyone just stopped talking
rapture? :P
 
@Loktar Nope, I'm still here :P
 
9:39 PM
also I was joking about the money thing was just trying to get a reaction since the talk died
and my friendly ghost @zigi is watching
 
back
i see we havn't ferried off the religion topic
@papaoutai still muted?
 
He was muted for an hour for spouting nonsense.
You're on thin ice - so think about what you say.
 
lol wut
what is this totalitarian chatism
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Just going to say, on a divisive issue like religion; muting people for spouting "nonsense" is going to be a bit subjective.
 
@Retsam I have a very un-itchy trigger finger in this topic for that reason.
 
9:44 PM
^meaning ban anyone not conforming to his opinion
 
man I need to go to church
I havent in like 8 years
talking about religion makes me realize I miss it and need to get my kids to go
take that non believers! :P
 
i wish athiests would say 'man i need to read a scientific article, i havn't in...'
 
haha
I envy athiests
its very easy to do you know
 
@olive_tree I'd love to see your proof on that one.
 
@Loktar Against their will, physically force them if necessary :P
 
9:45 PM
lol
 
Maybe break out the old "indoctrination tapes" if necessary.
 
my proof is my opinion, like you mate
 
Both Benjamin and Rukido claimed that religion in general is silly. Their words. They aren't muted.
 
@Retsam lol yeah for sure! :P
 
Copy said he doesn't believe in God. Still unmuted.
 
9:46 PM
tbh I am surprised how many are religious
 
You called me totalitarian and are still able to reply.
 
I expected maybe 10% but it seems to be higher
 
@Loktar If only I could remember where I left them, but it's so hard with my massively low IQ due to my belief in a deity...
 
@Loktar I suspect there are many who are but don't speak up
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 precisely my point, you only muted the guy pro-religion
not like he was doing anything bad aside from stating his opinion, like all the others
 
9:47 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 yeah I know of at least one and I understand why they keep it quiet
 
You know what is a super idea! pinging people from other rooms if a main room revokes your access. Because every room wants to be part of the JS room Religion talk! Woo! Drama! Woo! #youSuck
 
it can affect things now which is sad either way
 
@olive_tree Again, incorrect. m59, Loktar and retsam all made pro-religion statements.
 
heh
'outliers'
>_>
 
Ah yes, 3/4 are the "outliers".
 
9:48 PM
4/5
I am 'religious' myself.
 
seriously?
 
though it'd be difficult to mute myself.
 
you make it quite hard to tell
 
That is deliberate.
 
love the star order between 1 and 2
 
9:50 PM
@papaoutai sends his regards
i mean the lanisters
 
George Carlin?
I knew I had seen that before but it wasn't unknown
 
So your assertion that I ban "anyone not conforming to his opinion" has been show to be empirically false, as the one ban I've made has been to someone you say is on my side.
 
ah there are a few
 
@Loktar the irony
 
> Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. —Proverbs 26:4 (King James version)
hah from a SE comment
 
9:52 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 well now that you say that, again I was under the impression you were not religious.
 
I'm thinking about forking textAngular and using it to act as an editor for google docs that are created/edited in realtime, anybody know if something like that already exists?
 
@narthur157 hmm what do you mean?
you can edit docs in realtime via google already right?
 
@Loktar o/
 
@Loktar you can edit them, on their website
 
@AbhishekHingnikar \o
 
9:53 PM
@Loktar Or if the doc is published, I think
 
whats up ?
 
ah you mean do it remotely?
@AbhishekHingnikar meh not much
 
Right
 
am i being mean to elders ? or just being helpful ? [its an ad proposal]
 
Hoping to be able to switch between looking at a bunch of google docs in my own way
 
9:54 PM
wtf its 5pm here
I need to get home
 
looking at/editing
 
981
Q: Why does Windows think that my wireless keyboard is a toaster?

ydaetskcoRI've inherited an old PC from my girlfriend's dad and when setting up the printer I got a bit of a surprise: Two questions spring to mind here: Why does Windows think my wireless keyboard is a toaster? Why does Windows even have an icon for a toaster in the devices menu?

 
@Loktar time fades so fast my friend.
 
yeah jeeze
Ill check out that doc when I get home
 
9:55 PM
@Loktar do you think this would be a valid actual SO question?
 
@Loktar my hairs fade away faster then time though
 
haha
 
10:07 PM
@RalphWiggum lol, thats good
 
so when I quit smoking I got rid of my lighters... now I don't have anything to light candles with :/
and I need candles! there is no fan in my Bathroom :/
 
Be a real man and remove your CPU cooler and then use the CPU to light the candle!
 
paper + toaster worked
 
room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk
 
@AbhishekHingnikar you're a marketing man now, too?
 
10:18 PM
@Shmiddty i own the startup dude, and i realize i am no pro at all of these :D
but i gotta be all purpose ninja :P
 
!!s/(ninja)/rockstar $1/
 
@Shmiddty but i gotta be all purpose rockstar ninja :P (source)
 
:-)
good night ! am off to bed.
 
@RahulDesai hey, let me know if you still have issues.
 
10:37 PM
I've got 99 problems, but only one of them is in scope.
Speaking of, where are variables in an Angular service?
I've declared a variable, what is it attached to?
@m59 halp?
 
m59
like var?
It's private in the anonymous function you declared it in - if I understood your question...
@SomeKittensUx2666
attach the variable as a service property?
 
I've got four functions that differ only in name (all constructors that will vary later)
 
m59
jsbin link with a comment or something?
 
instead of the same thing four times, I want to loop through and declare four functions via something like window[currentFuncName]
what would window be?
 
m59
ohh
What are you using the create the service?
 
m59
@SomeKittensUx2666 I would just put the functions in an object
is there any reason not to?
 
using them later in instanceof calls
 
m59
var service = {};

service[i] = function() { }
Well, you can use this
 
and messing with prototypes
 
m59
ohhhh
same issue
I see.
Hmm, I wonder if the $injector can help here
doubt it.
 
m59
@SomeKittensUx2666 no idea :(
 
m59
I'd love to hear what you come up with.
 
Is this true or just another conspirational theory guys? : globalresearch.ca/…
 
11:08 PM
@m59 I'm giving up on that. Siiiiigh.
 
:? Robin Williams died
that sucks, he was a funny guy
 
m59
:(
 
> On Monday (August 11) the actor's reps officially confirmed that Robin Williams is not dead.
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Wait, what?
Is he or isn't he?
 
@SufiDeveloper are you sufi
cause i always wanted to meet one :0
 
11:19 PM
@SomeKittensUx2666 lol wait what?
haha it was even reported on major news sites wtf
 
So he's not dead?
 
maybe @SomeKittensUx2666 is joking?
 
Lots of results saying he's dead, not one of them I'd consider trustworthy
 
there was a hoax like 2 weeks ago that the actor who plays Rick Grimes in The Walking Dead died
 
Eaten by zombies no doubt
 
11:21 PM
idk Robin Williams death is on every major news site
so I'm thinking he is dead
and trending hard on twitter
in other news ISIS is beheading Christian children
:?
 
@SterlingArcher Is your mother responsible for this? ^^^
 
:(
damn man
gf text me before I saw you say it loke
seriously. i'm bummed. I loved Robin Williams
:(
dammit reddit! I'm trying to have feels here!
 
11:39 PM
@rlemon reddit, golden mine.
 
@Loktar Wikipedia says it. It must be true.
 
@KendallFrey if any wikipedia page says you owe me 2,000 $, so it becomes true?
 
is there a way to make width 100%, then make height equal whatever that is?
 
@corvid using only css or with javascript?
 
css is preferable but javascript works.
 
11:50 PM
That's how images are sized if only width is specified
If you had one whose width and height were equal, you could get that effect
Though that works just for images to my knowledge
Otherwise I don't think it is possible using css
In javascript, you could just wait until the page is loaded, and then set a div's height equal to its width
 

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