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10:01 PM
behaviour
I think in the json object that I pushed
 
@erotavlas Different situation, but same way to fix
 
nevermind I got it working jsfiddle.net/wqbpb39v/5
 
I can't for the life of me figure out what the difference is between input search and input text.
 
what
 
mdn search input
 
@KendallFrey thanks
 
"... for entering search strings."
 
duh..
what's it's significance over input text?
 
typically there's an x on the right side to clear the search, but that's up to the browser to implement.
 
Like input type="search"?
 
10:06 PM
oh..autosave could be another too.
@Meredith yeah.
 
They're just rendered differently by the browser
They might be the same in your browser but that's not always the case
 
hm. I see. It does show "x" for clearing search as Kevin B mentioned.
 
heh, just had a quick thought about how the london assaliant who should soon wake up in a hosptial will feel
so, you open your eyes, you're in a bed and there are a shitton of people around you, including police officers
 
💩
 
maybe you don't remember if you succeeded or only partially
you'll feel so fucked up, and the police are wanting to interrogate you right away and very insistently because they need to know if there are other attacks planned and if the car has a bomb in it
if there are partners and stuff
in the meantime you're also trying to breathe
 
10:14 PM
what's the development on it. Haven't been keeping up.
 
you realize you're alive, so clearly you didn't go all the way and you (if the assailant is a muslim) won't manage to go to heaven, you'll be a shame for the group you wanted to die for
 
or i can just google..
 
a guilty part of you is glad to still be alive
in all fairness, this didn't look like an organized terrorist attack
nor did most of the other things that didn't involve a lot of explosive or a shitton of firearms
 
people just use terrorist as a blanket term these days.
Shouldn't they have to be driven by political motive to be called terrorist?
 
i mean... not if you're talking about social media
 
10:16 PM
making people fear ISIS is terrorism
 
anything goes there
 
@towc wat?
 
if you're part of ISIS
 
@towc are..are we the baddies?
 
No, they want fear, too.
 
10:17 PM
didn''t even think about the other possibility of non-ISIS people making others fear isis
it's an interesting idea though
well, tbf it been there for ages
social media is the real terrorist and panic-spreader
 
ignorant enabler.
 
Before it was social media it was the real media creating fear for ISIS and other non-problems in the US
 
I guess it is double sworded.
 
Well that's just in the US, anyways. ISIS is a real problem in the middle east
 
problems in the middle east are a problem here.
 
10:19 PM
Middle east has such a complicated history.
It's not surprising to think that they're in that state right now.
 
it's kinda funny. The lessons today were cancelled (scheduled to be for months) to set up a lock up plan and do training of the teachers in case of a terrorist attack. All of the teachers kept complaining about it. Well, there you have it :P
 
Well not a problem to people's safety, as the media suggests
 
our school is kind of the symbol of european partnership in the UK (closing next year, which is also somewhat funny), so it is somewhat of a high symbolic target
 
you're in UK?
 
well, related terrorism happens everywhere, but I agree that much more in the middle east. Things that are headline news when they happen in paris are daily events there
 
10:21 PM
I am UK
 
But ISIS is one factor driving refugees, which is causing issues in europe.
 
@towc I should also blame you for brexit?
 
no brexit without me, nope
 
is it possible to get this.hostElement.innerHTML without codes?
 
should be touxit
 
10:22 PM
haha.
 
@SuperUberDuper which codes?
 
> `var user = new models.User({
username: req.body.username,
email: req.body.email,
password: hash,
password2: req.body.password2
});`
 
things like > being >
 
that's bloody genius -_-
 
store both the hashed password and the raw password in the model
 
10:23 PM
Okay but terrorism in general world-wide is not something that the media should be making everyone fear as much as they do
 
@SuperUberDuper look for parsing URI components
@KevinB where'd you find this?
 
In a year, world-wide, 10,000 to 20,000 people die from terrorist attacks, while heroin for example kills anywhere from 150,000-200,000 people a year world-wide.
 
Now do one for heart disease
 
@Alesana heroin is somewhat of a choice. Who does it is aware of the consequences
you can't kill someone just because they live (terrorism)
terrorism will affect literally anyone
 
10:25 PM
well today sucked in London
 
you can be safe from heroin by well, not using it. You can be safe-ish from terrorism by having a responsive government OR not having a social life
so it is an issue
 
or... just being normal
or not normal
whatever you prefer
 
Of course the media shows whatever gets ratings..
 
I don't know if the governments want to reduce heroine consumption because people die from it or because it's messing with the economy
 
The government can prevent heroin-overdoses as well, though
 
10:27 PM
I'm pretty scared of getting hit by a car or getting killed by a cop
 
I don't think the US gov't does want to reduce heroin consumption
More people in the US die from car accidents in a year than worldwide from terrorism
 
Well yeah
 
@Alesana as a citizen of probably any country, I'd rather they invested more in security and stuff rather than to make sure that someone who doesn't want dignity/a life, will have it
 
@town ah so there is no native way to do it
 
So ban cars? What point are you making?
 
10:28 PM
Well we should ban cars
 
@SuperUberDuper decodeURIComponent is native...
 
Like that's not really debateable
Like no shit they're terrible
 
I'm making the point that the media should be focusing on other things than terrorism
 
It's just not realistic
 
point is we're giving them a bigger audience/footprint than they deserve.
right?
 
10:29 PM
they sensationalize terrorism, but also many people ignore real problems and changes in society.
 
Which should get more press
heart disease or cancer
 
@towc Than you and me have a different understanding of the global heroin epidemic that there is right now
 
air pllution
 
@Luggage no, but the british government handled this really well apparently, and I'm glad the budget has been spend in having a very good police and medical personnel rather than to combat heroin consumption
 
pollution
 
10:29 PM
number of deaths by heroin has a lot less meaning than what just happened
 
you mean the shooting?
 
@Alesana I may be short sighted, but is it really a problem for you if there are drug addicts around, as long as they don't interact with you?
@Luggage yes
 
but but but not everyone agrees air polution is real, that needs to be debated. /s
 
the shooting was just two people, right?
 
the only thing I have against drug addicts really is that they're messing with the economy
 
10:30 PM
@towc Luckily the UK gov't is doing more than the US is doing about the heroin epidemic
 
@Luggage 4 dead, several in hospital. Could have been so much worse
 
@towc It's a problem for me when I lose people I love to heroin, yes.
 
yeah pavemnet was pretty quiet
 
Speaking of heroin have you guys seen trainspotting
 
rush hour would have been 5x worse
 
10:31 PM
@Alesana note how it's not about reducing amount of deaths, but getting it off the market
 
Good movie but you kinda need to watch it before star wars
 
@towc the main goal is to get them off heroin
 
1. legalize weed. it'll help with the heroin and so many other things
 
Mulan is another good one
 
@Alesana Dunno. Never happened to me, so I'm not sure how I'd feel, or if who to blame
 
10:32 PM
@Luggage True
 
1. legalize heroin
2. help people who are addicted to heroin
 
1. legalize murder
 
@Meredith I'll have that discussion too. Ther are valid arguments to legalize all drugs, but society doesn't move that fast. gotta be pragmatic
 
1. legalize riots started from bad puns
 
All drugs should be legal
Prescriptions should allow you to get the drug for free
 
10:33 PM
I would say all drugs should be decriminalized
 
Otherwise you gotta pay
 
ok, wihch bill do you think has a better chance of getting passed? legalize weed or everything?
Pick a battle you can win.
 
can you prescribe murder?
 
unless we're just talking about ideals, here
 
Depends on if it's a monarchy or not
 
10:34 PM
And the focus should be changed on drug safety not drug prevention
@Luggage are you in the US?
 
yes
 
@Alesana except the government doesn't really have an interest in that, quite rightly
 
Ah okay. Yeah there next step is definitely legalizing marijuana
 
if not to look caring to the voters
 
I have this issue were png image doesn't render on mobile browsers only on desktop browsers.
anyone ever come across this?
 
10:35 PM
no
png renders
 
weird
 
maybe the file doesn't arrive from the server
 
Due to my self-loathing, I come home from work every day and drink a beer while I down 2 cheese filled hot dogs, then I smoke some pot and take a poop. Then I watch youtube videos until bedtime.
 
but every mobile device that has existed for the last decade can render png
 
On my pc it renders.
not on mobile
 
10:36 PM
ban cheese-dogs, legalize heroin
 
not on mobile browsers
 
please do
 
@SalOrozco link?
 
@towc It seems you feel that the government shouldn't do anything to help drug addicts? Do you have the view that a heroin addict wants to be addicted to heroin?
 
@ndugger Have you tried playing runescape
 
10:36 PM
www.swish23.com
try it on mobile and desktop
 
@Alesana no, but why is that important for the government?
 
@towc What is the purpose of the government, then?
 
@Meredith Back when I did used to play, I had a character called "father_bob", and I went around dressed as a priest, and I charged people large sums of gold to hold runeecape weddings. It was the perfect scam.
 
Is very hard to help druggies.
 
provide meme sources for the internet people
 
10:37 PM
It's the most autistic thing I've ever done, though
 
^^
 
@SalOrozco start by not just putting them in jail with no rehab, making sure they can't ever get a job again, etc.
 
I would go as far as to say is impossible.
 
i tmight be impossible to help, but we can stop hurting
 
"forced euthanasia to all addicts"
 
10:39 PM
even alcoholics?
 
@towc I tried decodeURIComponent(this.hostElement.innerHTML) I get the same result (note innerHTML contains <pre>)
 
alcoholics aren't people
I would know
 
@SalOrozco Have you seen how the Netherlands deal with things? If you look at the statistics there they are very successful at helping drug addicts
 
There is different types of people that consume alcohol.
Social drinkers, and then there are those that drink to escape reality.
 
then there's dugger
 
10:40 PM
I'm talking on a personal level.
 
One can't help a druggie by your self.
is very hard.
 
Wanting to punish people that are addicts and blame everything on them just comes for your sense of morality. You find them to be 'bad' for what they do. The data dats helping helps and just jailing does not
So you either care about what really helps or you just want to punish.
 
> It was in the 1990s when the Netherlands started a program that provides long-term addicts with free government heroin.
> ...
> Combined with a specified care program, it has been responsible for almost the complete disappearance of heroin addicts from public view.
 
On a state level, I'm sure there are ways government can try to help them.
 
10:41 PM
Maybe it's alcoholism, maybe it's Maybelline(TM)
 
@SalOrozco That I can agree with
 
I would say that monitoring them is the best logical way to dealing with it.
 
Why monitor them?
 
Assist them.
Provide it for them.
They are going to get it no matter what.
 
Right... a heroin user is going to get heroin whether it's legal or not.
 
10:43 PM
Either by crime.
 
@towc, my mistake, the issue is with the <pre> I had to use that because I was rendering >
 
They can go to their dealer and their dealer is going to try to have them continue using heroin to keep making money, or they could go through someone who is trying to help them.
 
Also if the government or pharmaceutical companies produced heroin
It probably wouldn't be cut with fen
 
That as well
It would be a much safer product
 
You have to remember though.
Why addicts are addicts.
 
10:44 PM
So there goes like 99% of the problems with heroin
 
What makes drugs so addicting.
 
The taste?
colorful packaging?
 
I thought it was the texture
 
Then you understand why people can't escape it.
 
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with heroin addiction
 
10:44 PM
life sucking is what makes drugs so addicting
 
You were lied to by DARE
Plenty of heroin addicts live perfectly healthy lives until they get bad heroin and die
 
@SalOrozco I don't think that the drugs are responsible for addiction if that's what you are suggesting
 
Nothing wrong just ruins your life.
 
What nick said. People are way less likely to get addicted to hard drugs if they have shit going on.
 
The west installed the Ba'athists in an effort to increase instability. It's a relatively low resource war which the British and Far East have vested interest in because of oil availability, and which the US benefits from because they can use the "threat" of radical Islam as a means to scare people into forgoing civil liberties.
 
10:45 PM
What makes drugs addicting?
 
Almost all of the problems come from the cost or the likelihood of overdosing
 
Plus the heroin on the side.
 
It makes people feel high. Feel good.
 
i really hate depending on btopenzone for wifi
 
What do most people want to do, escape reality.
 
10:46 PM
@Meredith it IS bad for your body to have heroin that regularly and get dependent.
 
thats why we have netflix
 
I don't want to escape reality, I just want it to suck less
 
Forget about life.
 
Someone's environment causes them to become addicts
 
ex-machina, what a lame film
 
10:46 PM
@Luggage I thought that heroin was less harmful then tylenol, I could be wrong though
 
Tylenol is pretty hard on your liver
 
it seems to have destroyed soem of my family. doesn't look healthy
 
but that's about it
 
What do drugs do to the brain? Gives them a false sense of joy happiness.
 
is it just me or are the first 10-20 m of most films the most exciting?
 
10:47 PM
@SalOrozco There's a couple things I think. One is the psychological addiction, and one is physical...usually having to due with an affect on production or absorption of dopamine or serotonin.

But then you also have wildcards like ecstasy which flood your system with serotonin and dopamine and also reduces re-absorption rate. However, few people get physically addicted because it's hard to abuse over long periods of time. You can't roll as hard the second day, let alone the third, etc.
 
@SalOrozco It's not false; dopamine is a very real thing
 
That's kind of pseudo-science I've gathered over my drug-using career...which admittedly isn't too long, but long enough to have some experience.
 
So it makes you happy
Unlike anything you ever felt before
 
@SalOrozco Well, then there's also psychedelics.
 
To tell you the truth I never really done any drugs.
 
10:49 PM
Being high from marijuana is just like being drunk without the cloudy brain, and extra happiness. It's not an alien feeling at all
 
@Meredith I agree partly, though. People take heroin or heroin equivalents all the time in a medical setting. Sometimes regularly for pain management. It can be done, but it's very addictive and harmful over long term. Not "D.A.R.E." level harmful, though.
 
I have dealt with friends who abuse drugs.
Cant let go.
 
Which are very rare to get addicted to, and as far as I know are not physically addictive at all. The dangerous component in acid for instance is getting research chemicals because the government regulates its use and reduces availability and market regulation of quality.
 
@ndugger or sometimes scarey when you think you are dying
 
I won't touch anything harder than pot... I had pot laced with something extra once, and it royally fucked me up... I did not enjoy that. No thank you.
 
10:50 PM
i drink sociallly
Sometimes I drink when I'm coding too.
 
If you use psychedelics too much though, people can get a little weird. I don't think it has THAT much to do with altering their brain, but more to do with their crazy experiences and how often they perceive and rationalize reality vs their tripping state.
 
@Allenph Yup, certain hallucinogens have no reason to be illegal
 
I would touch shrooms or LSD. I wouldn't touch cocaine, Definitely not heroin.
 
I've had adderall (prescription). That's practically meth.
 
@Luggage I'll do roll, acid, mushrooms, weed, and occasionally adderall.
 
10:51 PM
lol
 
I don't take my adderall anymore, though
 
The most dangerous of which is ironically legal for the most part; adderall.
 
Yeah where I am now adderall is illegal
 
I lost like 20lbs when I was on my prescription for adderall
 
Back to my png question lol
 
10:52 PM
It was awesome
 
amphetamines for the rest
 
how does that work? you pop an aderall and your house gets cleaned?
 
I wont even take medications.
For pain or stuff like that.
 
@Luggage And your program gets programmed
 
I also do DMT in the form of ayahuasca. I don't suggest doing that unless you're experienced with psychedelics though.
It's not really fun as much as it is scary extremely personal and reverently spiritual.
 
10:53 PM
@SalOrozco What if you had chronic pain?
 
And there's people who smoke DMT which is too hardcore for me.
 
Not chronic pain but from time to time I get headaches.
 
Wouldn't ever touch meth, opiates, or cocaine derivatives though.
 
Honestly, I started to smoke pot because of my stomach issues; I was having debilitatingly painful stomach cramps almost daily, and I was sick of the pain
now I don't have any stomach issues
 
10:54 PM
Salvia is legal but it's kind of terrible.
 
Out here meth is really popular.
 
@Allenph It's really only scary before you do it, you can't really be 'scared' while on DMT
 
Also, @SalOrozco I have no idea how you code on alcohol.
 
And salvia really depends on the person
 
@Alesana Have you done ayahuasca?
It is not JUST DMT.
It gives a "flavor" to the trip.
 
10:55 PM
@SalOrozco I am asking if you would take pain medications if you had chronic pain
 
When you drink and code, you care less.
 
One of deep personal reflection and fear-facing.
 
No I haven't done ayahuasca, I realize it's different
 
@SalOrozco But how do you even logic? Haha.
 
But as far as just DMT goes I do know you can't have a bad experience because it's too strong
 
10:55 PM
yup, you just sit there
 
!!poop or icecream
 
Sometimes, I tend to think to much.
 
When you drink and code, jQuery happens.
 
I've tried coding on a lot of different drugs. It's interesting to watch the "structure" change.
 
@ndugger icecream
 
10:56 PM
k, then poop after
 
Personally I think one of the best is a nice Sativa. Especially for JavaScript for some reason.
 
This kind of allows me to not care as much.
lol
 
@FilipDupanović Well your body does, anyways
 
@Allenph I inssufliate, smoking is really hard
 
You insuflate Javascript? Hardcore...
 
10:57 PM
ayahuasca is apparently legal, when used for spiritual purposes
 
@FilipDupanović I don't have that problem and that option wouldn't be available to me.
 
So you are allowed to use it if you believe nonsense?
 
anyone check out my link.
 
yes, it's super hard to get a nice pipe for Dimitry, plus with the tolerance it's hard to evaporate anything more than a pinch
 
I can't smoke weed. I'm one of a few people I know of that trips mildly-to-moderately when smoking weed after having done DMT.
@SalOrozco I don't know what link you're talking about.
 
10:59 PM
I know some people that have bad trips smoking weed. One called the cops on himself.
lol
 
lol
 
Weed just doesn't treat me nicely like it used to
But I wouldn't go as far as calling the police
 
nice profile pic ndugger
lol
 
@Luggage apparently, you can't take away customs; like there are some people that clean their house and burn everything in a bonfire, then fast for 4 days, then they harvest, visit friends and there starts life anew for them
 
Funny guy, he always tells us that story.
 

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