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8:01 PM
@rlemon I just read that article, what the fuck is this bullshit? (BTW, youโ€™re not a true dev unless at least one monitor is in portrait)
Did she watch Silicone Valley and assume that's how 'real coders' are?
 
it's an actual company that develops actual software
 
What about 40" 4k though?
 
portrait for code is very useful
but if you don't have it, you're not a 'fake dev'
you just don't want a vertical monitor
 
lol wtf
 
@Trasiva Sounds like no true scotsman
 
8:04 PM
You aren't a true dev unless you own a VR headset and have a monitor at 144hz
and have a Jesus avatar
and is named Jason Brown
@rlemon you're left testi doesn't own a VR headset
 
that's what it calls the shaft
 
that's the one he had removed
 
How do you know?
 
it was a joke
 
@KendallFrey your mom told me
 
8:06 PM
I borrow kendalls when I visit her
 
lol
his shaft?
what?
 
What if sperm have a technologically advanced civilization
 
no his VR
might wanna wash that @KendallFrey
 
Ahh, I found out why she's full of shit. Trista is a writer, word lover, talker, strategist and has an octopus tattoo.
Not a dev.
 
and has an octopus tattoo.
 
8:06 PM
holy shit, hired.
 
@Loktar Oh man, let me see if I can find the tattoo that was on Imgur last night, it was fuckin' amazing.
 
their mascot is a squid and they still hired her?
 
I was thinking if I get a job soon enough, I'd use some of that sweet severance money to buy a vive, but I don't think I play enough games for it to be worth it
 
@ndugger there aren't enough games for it anyway
 
8:07 PM
fair
 
but yeah if you aren't like hardcore wanting VR I would hold off
I've contemplated selling mine a few times
I sold my PSVR
actually made a bit on that since they are sold out everywhere
 
ohh yea baby
look at dem rocks!
 
mars?
 
mars?
 
mother fuck
 
8:10 PM
mars
 
lol
 
@rlemon How often do you masturbate looking at space pictures ?
 
often
 
8:10 PM
Fair enough
 
@Trasiva that's crazy
 
objective c is insane
 
Did that pornhub space thing ever come (heh) to fruition?
 
they're still raising funds or trying to get a seat I think
 
link?
 
8:11 PM
but it isn't cancelled afaik
 
what pornhub thing
 
I kinda want VR just for subnautica
 
pornhub wants to make the first porno in LEO
or well, space.
w/e they wanna do . bumpin it in space
 
the idea of playing a deep sea exploration/survival game with mean creatures in vr..
 
@rlemon that is a waste of a lot of $ in my opinion
 
8:12 PM
it's their money to waste
 
pornhub has the lowest quality videos
 
I'd probably get subnautica if it had Touch support
 
and I'm pretty sure a) it would get a shitload of money in ads for them. b) no one has done this yet. it is technically a science experiment
 
right now it's super buggy
 
8:13 PM
@William I'm willing to prove you wrong
 
routinely lose your save due to corruption
 
out of all the smut companies, pornhub is the classiest
 
Their social media team is on point too.
 
@KendallFrey i want to proven wrong. Compared to a lot of sites pornhub has some low quality shit
 
Dare I ask what we're comparing to...
 
8:14 PM
 
@KendallFrey Have you tried out their VR stuff yet?
 
I don't want to be the cause of people searching that.
 
@Trasiva I tried some supposedly 360 videos. It was broken.
Don't remember where
So far YouTube is the goto for VR videos
 
passion hd porn
much higher quality
 
but do they plant trees and troll us on april fools?
I THINK NOT!
 
tricked me darn i love the fact it posted expanded first because of a typo
 
@KendallFrey I keep toying with the idea of getting the Samsung headset.
 
Cardboard is cheap
 
Yea, but it doesn't have the controls on the side.
 
8:19 PM
okay so I think I asked this in another room maybe here but how much of ubuntu is going to run inside of W10?
 
@Trasiva you don't need controls for videos
@William Enough
 
i want a checklist comparison to cygwin
 
@KendallFrey True I reckon. I don't foresee myself buying a desktop beefy enough for VR gaming anytime soon.
 
@William Windows 10 is better than cygwin
 
thank you was confused about that point
considering cygwin needs Windows to run I'm not sure if you helped
 
8:22 PM
that's... like saying the earth is better than a car
 
^
 
not wrong, but..
 
By Windows 10 I mean you get more features (re Linux) in Windows 10 without cygwin than you get with Windows 8.1 with cygwin.
 
well i hope so can't be sure
how do they handle case sensitivity i wonder
its not a default in windows
 
Windows 10 supports native Linux binaries
 
8:24 PM
They are different things. Cygwin is a native windows library that is linux-like. things need to be re-compiled. Linux-on-Windows runs plain linux binaries on windows.
therefor, MS is striving for way more invisible compatibility than cygwin
 
@William MSDN says it's supported
 
but no GUI support I would assume
 
I hear some people have used a windows x-server with programs..
 
^ that is what I want
but it needs to be fast
I don't have to be able to stream videos but it should be close
 
@William assume if you want, but it's not true
 
8:27 PM
@KendallFrey X server support yah or nah?
 
There are x servers for windows. just try it. We can't tell you how it'll run with your "not stream videos but close" workload.
 
ahhahh having done that through a virtual machine I'm sure you are right. X servers don't run very well
 
@William I think an X server for windows would let you do that. There's nothing built in
 
well. I'm not sure. I don't know the feature-set and performance of the windows-based x servers
it may very well be faster than a VM, but.. you'll have to test as I don't know what x commands your program uses.
Do you have windows 10?
 
well, that looks fun and nauseating
 
8:31 PM
nasuous
 
fuck you
 
@KevinB Is it better at riding through city roads ?
 
@rlemon ...Kevin O'Leary is gunning for the PM job?
 
well i asked a question we will see how this goes superuser.com/questions/1169390/…
 
You already know the answer.
It depends on the x server you install and use.
and the subject line does not match the question.
 
8:52 PM
is this more mouse tacos?
 
no, google chrome doesn't like to stay default.
doesn't matter, just annoying to see the popup every time
 
@rlemon Linux?
Yeah, that happened to me too. Can't remember how I solved it though ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
 
meh, like I said. no big deal
I blame Unity
 
Probs
I'm now trying very hard to install Ubuntu on my XMG laptop
Giving me a hard time -_-
6
A: Trying to install Ubuntu results in freezing splash screen - nomodeset did not work

cl-netboxFirst things first ... SCHENKER ships the same notebooks which are based on CLEVO barebones with Ubuntu preinstalled through their sub-company TUXEDO ... so it just must work somehow. Second - of course you can't access a virtual console with this combination : Ctrl + Alt + 1 ! Even that I don't...

 
tomorrow I will be trying to do a minimal Ubuntu install
without Unity
any suggestions?
 
8:56 PM
i3
 
I'm trying for Ubuntu GNOME right now, actually
 
I need some sort of window environment to run an Electron app
but that's all that will be running (GUI wise)
 
i3
 
so yea. strip that mofo down
 
@rlemon i3 or awesome are pretty good
 
8:56 PM
minimal?
 
> i3
 
the client (and I) will never see or touch it
 
i3 is more minimal
 
I just need something as a base for Electron
 
i(\sz.s(s(s(sz))))
 
8:57 PM
wat
 
damn it I need to set my lambda key
 
alright, I'll check out i3
 
@rlemon kiosk?
 
@KendallFrey same idea
 
@towc u funy
 
8:58 PM
oh u :,)
 
oahu
 
actually that's 4....
 
good fuckn yard
 
DAMNIT I NEVER DO ANYTHING RIGHT
 
github.com/dekuNukem/FAP80 cc @Loktar @copy @BenFortune @ssube ... crap that's cool
 
9:01 PM
@rlemon oh wow
 
yeah that is pretty cool
I want an x86 that size
 
add me on the list next time
 
I try not to ping people who are active for things like this
even if I think they will be interested
 
imgur.com/gallery/HclCy 10/10 nsfw story, 15/10 laughed so hard
 
click the links. my links are all gold.
๐Ÿ˜ƒ
 
9:05 PM
ccccccc @KendallFrey
 
oh sure
 
Because diabetes.
 
I see this comic and all I can picture is @SterlingArcher and @KendallFrey i.imgur.com/KIbt6ud.png
 
You don't need to picture us
:D
 
user1596138
9:20 PM
React question
 
user1596138
If I use components in React Router it automatically instantiates them before passing them to the container as a children prop
 
user1596138
However, I need to both use react router and have access to this specific components class, to access a static property.
 
user1596138
I know I can do Component.type to access the class of an instantiated Component, but should I?
 
Why shouldn't you ?
 
user1596138
Because that is not advertised as an instance property in the React.Component docs
 
user1596138
9:23 PM
I just know it happens to be there.
 
user1596138
It's not prefixed with _ tho lol
 
user1596138
@Loktar I am XY probleming myself
 
idk what is this for?
 
user1596138
One sec
 
user1596138
    // routing structure like this
        PageContainer
            Page1
            Page2
            Page3

// Page Container needs to know the heading for each page because it's not in the children
// if I put a static heading property on each Page component the header I can do `<this.props.children.header/>` from the parent
 
user1596138
9:26 PM
I wanted to avoid a registry of pages
 
user1596138
This wouldn't have been an issue if we weren't using ReactRouter.. React Router instantiates the children before passing them as props to PageContainer and it's not configurable.
 
yeah I still don't understand I guess. so the children need to know about the header, yet the header is outside of react.router?
is the header within react?
can't data just be passed down through react-router
 
user1596138
I can pass the route down and do a switch to determine the headings lmao yeah
 
what's the heading used for?
is it just a page title?
 
user1596138
It's the page header inside the Wizard view
 
user1596138
9:28 PM
Yeah, there's also a sub heading and links inside. So it isn't a string
 
user1596138
It's a component... Honestly I think it should be namespaced under each page but ReactRouter is fucking me
 
There's a few suggestions there
2014 though so idk how well they will work
but this doesn't sound like something out of left field I imagine someone has done it
 
user1596138
Yeah that's not the problem at all
 
user1596138
I am bad at explaning
 
user1596138
9:30 PM
/me moves to Slack where I can paste code if you have a sec
 
user1596138
Otherwise it's cool, I will take a different approach.
 
yeah feel free to post it in slack
 
user1596138
It seems to be a unique problem lol
 
mozilla's changing their CA data 0.o
something's gotta be cooking
it's not just a front-end initiative
 
where, what?
 
9:33 PM
this is the point where I'd sell all of my mozilla stocks, if I had any
 
is something up with Moz?
 
haven't you heard?
they're changing style completely
me no like
 
oh, new identity and style guidelines
 
if it was just a front-end and marketing thing, sure, but why'd they change CA stuff?
 
Does this mean that they're going to make firefox not ugly?
 
9:37 PM
so :// is the new dino?
 
fear is they might make ff and mdn private
 
@Jhawins if you can let me know when you find a solution, I would be interested to know the answer
sorry wrong ping
 
@FilipDupanoviฤ‡ looks like someone who is unsure about their new collagen lip injections. ://
 
user1596138
@joshhunt Stop XYing myself and just make the damn pages lol. Per @loktar
 
user1596138
Well no we talked through it an shit. He doesn't just shit on me like that haha
 
9:52 PM
lol
One example was a header, it is just a super simple component
so it seems negligible to just include it
we have a "real" header still around the page anyway
we're locked into pages rendered by the backend
poor react is trapped
 
user1596138
I was going for Ludicrous Speed. We settled for Ridiculous Speed
 
youtube.com/watch?v=9QJSKapqkxE nice idea, but staring down while riding a bike in the city is just asking to eat come curb
 
user1596138
 
sorry I'm a little confused. Are you still setting the title in the page component? Or elsewhere?
 
it's not the page title
just a component that sits over others with a heading
the black text changes
when the next button at the bottom is clicked (or prev not pictured)
the area above that is a static header rendered by the backend
so my suggestion is just make some sort of <Heading> component and just include that with whatever <content> component there is
 
user1596138
9:57 PM
I was going for maximum perf lol. Keeping the headers an shit in the parent so they never get destroyed. That means either a global data store to keep track of which page has what heading.. Or namespacing headers. But React Router made namespacing not doable. I just stuck them in each individual Page instead.
 
user1596138
Over here sweating about perf loss from re-rendering 2 <H> tags ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
ah ok, yeah I had a similar issue but I don't think mine was solvable that way as my heading component was outputted in a different place. As in for layout reasons it had to be rendered in PageContainer instead of Page1
 
@Jhawins just make sure you don't add any border-radius to them or you'll get fired for insecure websites and hacking
on a related note: @KendallFrey I still can't find any reference to that conspiracy theory. did we just watch the birth of a new conspiracy theory?
 
birth and hopefully death
 
:P
I hope he writes literature on it (on another website) or makes a youtube video on it
 
10:04 PM
Phew
Managed to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop
After failed to install 16.10 for several days now
 
!!afk ๐ŸŒฝ ๐ŸŒฝ ๐ŸŒฝ ๐Ÿ‹ ๐Ÿš
 
do you use top bar or keypad for numbers?
 
depends on whether i'm typing on the left side of my keyboard or not
not going to switch to numpad mid-sentence
 
@MadaraUchiha I wonder if he still feels that way
 
10:11 PM
@Loktar That's certainly how I feel at the moment -_-
 
:(
^ because that sucks it's not working
I don't have any love for nvidia either
 
10:32 PM
I use numpad if the sole input is numbers. Top row if it is in casual conversation
Unless it is a big number
 
I don't have a numpad
small kbd's ftw! :p
 
I'd like a small keyboard, but I would for sure miss the numpad
 
I just ordered these: wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/…
 
@david Nice
 
10:51 PM
@MadaraUchiha I don't feel like this is on topic stackoverflow.com/questions/41752998/…
but I can't think of a proper close reason?
suggestions?
 
There's a duplicate for this somewhere
I remember seeing one
 
user2620028
i think if i got a keyboard without printed characters on the keys then i could prevent my gf from using my computer :D would be nice
 
@HatterisMad use dvorak
problem solved
 
user2620028
isn't dvorak a room user? what?
 
10:54 PM
@rlemon You've seen the new one, right?
 
The Dvorak Simplified Keyboard (/dแตŠหˆvษ”หræk/ d-VOR-ak) is a keyboard layout patented in 1936 by Dr. August Dvorak and his brother-in-law, Dr. William Dealey. Over the years several slight variations were designed by the team led by Dvorak or by ANSI. These variations have been collectively or individually also called the Simplified Keyboard or American Simplified Keyboard but they all have come to be commonly known as the Dvorak keyboard or Dvorak layout. Dvorak proponents claim the Dvorak layout uses less finger motion and reduces errors compared to the standard QWERTY keyboard. This reduction...
 
he's gone :,(
no news from him, right?
 
user2620028
i think this would prevent me from using the computer, not her
 
@KendallFrey nope. I don't sub him. but he shows up in my recommendations occasionally
 
He did one with a red hot knife and misc other items
 
10:56 PM
@towc He's still here
Just not in this room
 
I don't like the way he does his shit. he's like Colin but less entertaining so I'm less forgiving of his absolute lack of concern for safety
 
oh
 
I'm ashamed to say that I purchased and tried a Dvorak keyboard.
 
@rlemon That's like the first thing he mentions in the latest one, lol
But yeah, he's not the most entertaining guy ever
 
his video on the water balls was pretty damn cool tho
orbies or something like that
 
10:58 PM
orbeez are kind of a must-do thing for "science vloggers"
 
he filled his pool with them
 
Oh yeah that's right
 
kids got too much money, or parents who put up with a lot :D
the amount of glass I've seen smashed in his back yard is disturbing
 
I'm tempted to make a rocket sled powered by black powder rockets
 
would be fun. I'd hope you were not wearing shorts and a tshirt and pointing it down-track at a friend tho
 
10:59 PM
lol
 

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