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7:00 PM
@ssube I've seen quite a bit of salt in here today.
 
SaltyScript: JavaScript's Irish cousin.
why Irish? because fuck you.
 
user1596138
Or we could just name it JavaScript
 
user1596138
We never do that.
 
Your suggestion is stooopid
 
JhawinScript
 
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7:01 PM
@ndugger Yo'ure*
 
user1596138
Oh wait there's two
 
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Yo'ur'e*
 
ur*
 
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@ndugger still going to the thingy
 
I always go to every thingy
 
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7:03 PM
I'm flying in at 11pm on the 9th
 
user1596138
Gots a king room in some hotel for the weekend
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum by your peers (Hebrew University of Jerusalem)
 
@Jhawins hotel downtown or elsewhere?
 
Invite all of the javascript conference girls to stay the night in your king bed at the motel 6
 
user1596138
@MadaraUchiha Wow. That intro... That spokeswoman...
 
7:04 PM
@Jhawins I know :D
 
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@ssube Umm right next to St Paul
 
user1596138
Orr
 
user1596138
Wait lemme look
 
user1596138
It;s like .25 miles from the conference
 
@Jhawins is it the midway motel?
cause you will get shot there
 
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7:05 PM
It's next to St Thomas University
 
user1596138
Idk. The hotel had 4.5 stars on google.
 
you might get roofied, but just don't get into white audis with strangers and you'll be fine
 
The only reason I eat meat is to know that another animal died to sustain my overweightedness. It's no fun otherwise.
 
I'm not sure how I trust machine grown meat
 
user1596138
Unless you guys somehow have rapists and creeps right next to all the niceass shit over there I'll be fine.
 
7:06 PM
I'd rather eat bugs
 
I'd rather play it safe, and slaughter the cow myself
 
I'll never intentionally eat bugs
fucking gross
 
@Jhawins St Thomas is the school for rich creepers
they don't have classes, just "group workshops," and your parents have to pay for you
 
user1596138
It's right by "Loring Park"
 
oh, you mean the St Thomas School of Business
Loring Park is a decent area
 
user1596138
7:07 PM
And there will be a couple hundred people in the hotel across the street on the group rate for the conference
 
user1596138
Yea it looks nice online anyway
 
cc @rlemon
 
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cc @ndugger
 
7:08 PM
@ssube favourite brewery? I've got a date thursday.
 
@ndugger I'm kind of over breweries. They're good, but the food is always silly and I only have a couple beers.
 
user1596138
I had to book everything through Concur to expense it so I didn't get a ton of options sadly.
 
I don't eat at breweries, I get drunk
 
@Jhawins that's a decent place. Never been inside, but I used to walk by every day.
 
i.imgur.com/mafscdD.gif that's enough of that
lol I forgot all about this
 
7:10 PM
if you guys go to that con and are trying to drink after, The Local is a pretty good choice
 
user1596138
Good deal. If I get fucked with over there Imma kick some Minnesotian ass anyway
 
user1596138
@ssube Co worker is ex-alco and does not drink. But I might (in moderation, I don't get drunk)
 
Laughing too hard. He just keeps getting punched
 
I've been to the local, it's decent
 
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@SterlingArcher wtf happened lol
 
7:11 PM
it was just a celebration for getting the points, but the ref was right there. Socked him right in the balls full blast
> eat shit bob ross
 
I posted that gif to our work chat and that was the response
 
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@ssube lol
 
Hello
Can anyone tell me why My Content in this fiddle is not red?
https://jsfiddle.net/pLnk9f5b/9/
Oh shoot I didn't include jQuery
 
@ssube lol @ the gas station
 
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7:18 PM
@SeventhSon looks like you didn't include jQuery
 
user1596138
The class name is not applied
 
user1596138
lol if you include jQuery it works...
 
How do I go about that?
 
user1596138
 
7:20 PM
External Resources? Isn't it supposed to automcomplete the name of the library and allow me to insert it?
 
user1596138
See the screenshot above
 
user1596138
There'a a dropdown
 
@Jhawins I see, thank you.
 
Ahh so that's where they put it
 
@ndugger ehhh nintendo owns sega now, no?
 
7:23 PM
Did not know jQuuery was at v3
 
user1596138
They copied Codepen
 
!!afk vape in the heat
 
@Neal That has never been a thing
 
@SterlingArcher you have to include jQ 3 so that your jQ 2 works in newer browsers
 
@ndugger oooo twas just a "partnership"
 
7:26 PM
jesus it's too hot to vape
 
shit, that reminds me I need a new coil
 
It's not even that hot out
 
It's 97F with 44% humidity
The humidity is killer
 
Your cries sustain me
 
It's causing a pressure drop, severe thunderstorm warning till 10pm <3
 
7:38 PM
harder
 
@SterlingArcher only 44% humidity? You will never become humidity doctor at that rate.
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher it was 80% humidity and 98 here
 
user1596138
 
WELL LAH DEE DAAH
 
user1596138
Dat "feels like" temp
 
7:42 PM
it's super nice here today, since the "feels like" was 110+ last week
 
Today it's 85 deg out, with a "feels like" of 86 deg. Win.
 
user1596138
Right lol. 90 degrees? Hell yeah it's cool out.
 
98°
MOSTLY CLOUDY
feels like 109°
 
user1596138
Keep that stuff on the East side mmkay
 
It's a sign that everyone needs to move to MN
The weather gods have spoken
 
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7:44 PM
They want us to boil to death..
 
I don't think you understand what boiling means
 
I'm too fat for this heat
 
Don't you dare complain about your fatness. I'm fat enough for this whole room.
 
@Jhawins had that yesterday. Crazy lightning last night too
 
hello, why is it bad to use jquery and angularjs?
 
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7:50 PM
@ndugger It's the thing that makes your skin darker when you're out in the sun
 
I like angular
 
You also like coldfusion
your opinion is bad
 
I don't like ColdFusion, I just used it for 2 years :(
 
user1596138
Boiling causes melanogenesis
 
I have never, ever seen good code that uses angular 1... It's one of the libs/frameworks that I absolutely believe automatically produces shitty spaghetti
 
7:53 PM
People still talk about coldfusion? I thought that was akin to Voldemort " He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named."
 
@Epik Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@user125535 because both are questionable on their own, so combining them is probably bad
 
Lol I can never get a clear answer. I always see "oh I use it all the time" and also see "no it's bad don't use it, you'll be sorry" without even elaborating
 
I like how angular directive switches work
<div ng-switch="currentCriticalitySurvey">
  <csr-criticality-integrity ng-switch-when="integrity"></csr-criticality-integrity>
  <csr-criticality-availability ng-switch-when="availability"></csr-criticality-availability>
  <csr-criticality-confidentiality ng-switch-when="confidentiality"></csr-criticality-confidentiality>
<div>
 
csr-criticality-confidentiality ng-switch-when lm-nop-qrstu-vwxyz 123-456-7890
 
7:59 PM
I don't like inline events, or large ng-class/if conditionals but I like how they perform
 
I prefer goto's
 
@SterlingArcher fuck yeah
 
OK, here's another fiddle. Why aren't myId4, myId5 red?
 
> Jordan,
We have chatted in the past and I am not Recruiting for Unisys Federal for a mission critical project supporting DHS
WELL WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU RECRUITING FOR, JEFF?
 
Certainly not Unisys
 
8:06 PM
add "not" to your reply in a bunch of places
> Hi not Jeff, I'm not interested in the job you advertised. What are the requirements not?
 
Hello not Jeff, I've decided not to reply to you with not my resume
 
I don't think trolling linkedin is a wise move lol
 
why... not?
 
I've trolled recruiters a few times
 
This is all very relative to my question...
 
8:07 PM
trolling shitty recruiters is a-ok
 
piss off
 
What do you think I might be confusing here?
 
My brother said he had an offer from this guy
 
@SeventhSon have you checked the error console?
 
@ssube On the fiddle?
 
8:09 PM
@SeventhSon yep
it says some useful stuff
 
@ssube I don't see an error console.
 
lol omg my brother knows this guy very well. He's telling me to say some very rude stuff xD
 
I hate to miss the obvious but...
 
2 hours ago, by Sterling Archer
I may be a tad bit aggressive
 
@SeventhSon jquery-git.js:1532 Uncaught Error: Syntax error, unrecognized expression: #myId1:not(.myClass #myId1),#myId2:not(.myClass #myId2),#myId3:not(.myClass #myId3),#myId4:not(.myClass #myId4),#myId5:not(.myClass #myId5),
 
Shit, it was just an extra comma.
 
if you're not familiar with the error console, read up on it. It's super good.
 
welp, I'm moving tomorrow. Everything's packed up, house is nearly empty. Last night at the apartment. Shit's weird.
 
Oh, you were suggesting I use the browser's console.
I see. (I think)
 
@Zirak hooray moving!
 
8:12 PM
@Zirak can you see the ghosts' footprints in the dust?
 
Where are you moving to?
@SeventhSon bruh...
 
@SterlingArcher I really really didn't want to move, I love this place
 
@Zirak why move then? Put your roots back down
 
He explained this on the github, pleb
 
@SterlingArcher Maybe he didn't want to move less than he didn't want to not move.
 
8:14 PM
@SterlingArcher Just down the road, not very far. Apartment's a bit better preserved, but worse in other terms (smaller, no elevator, less light and air flow, etc etc)
 
No elevator? That's fat-shaming.
 
@SterlingArcher I rent and the landlady's brother was about to go homeless. She preferred that I be homeless.
 
having an elevator is fat shaming
 
having fat is shameful
 
Being yourself is fat shaming
 
8:14 PM
@Zirak what kind of lease did you have that allows that?
 
I'm ashamed
 
That's kind of shitty. Were you in a contract?
Did she buy you out or something..?
 
Israel doesn't believe in legally binding contracts
 
@ssube Thank you very much for your quick assist.
 
@ssube It's all legal, we sign a yearly contract
 
8:15 PM
Bye.
 
@Zirak this was the end of the year?
 
We renewed it every August and she notified me around April
 
paste the contract, please. (j/k)
 
oh, that sounds like plenty of notice
also enough that finding a new place hopefully wasn't too hard
 
@Zirak bleh. Sorry dude :( Moving sucks
 
8:16 PM
Yeah, she's a really okay landlady
 
Crowdfund your expenses
 
I wish I could crowdfund my life
 
> If you donate $1 to my moving, I'll live tweet each box I move to you and 4 of your friends.
 
"Hi, I'm Zirak, an yellow interned smiley. I was about to go homeless but I didn't. Give money."
 
8:18 PM
Money me.
 
$1 to make you do more than $1 worth of work? sure.
 
"Donate $5 and I won't send you a selfie of me cleaning the new toilet"
 
"Donate $10 and I will send you a selfie of me destroying the new toilet"
 
Geocentrism is pushed by the Spirograph lobby.
 
Ohh I read that wrong
 
8:21 PM
"$10 to carve your full name into the old apartment's walls and ceilings; an extra $5 will fill the gaps with goat blood"
I'll stop, this is already a runaway success
 
> Local man crowdfunds moving expenses, selfie purchases so viral he now owns the entire Middle East
 
@Zirak $15 I'll fill my bedroom with potato salad
 
> Local man now foreigner, at war with himself.
 
If you owned the entire middle-east, do you now also own terrorism?
 
@KendallFrey do you have a $15 bedroom or a crazy cheap potato salad hookup?
 
8:25 PM
I crowdfund my potato salad, duh
 
what kind of potato salad?
 
@ndugger You only own the brand, you still have subsidiaries which operate individually
 
(C) 2016 Terrorism
 
@ssube Aren't all potato salad hookups cheap? Imagine being invited to a blind date. You sit down, suddenly potato salad sits opposite you.
You end up having a lovely time, so many interests in common (among other things: decomposing)
 
I have 7 Raticates... pls
 
8:27 PM
Um
 
I'm so sick of looking at raticates
 
Change the raticate sprite
 
Grind them up
 
@Zirak I mean like a good line on cheap potato salad. You know, that good shit, for like $0.10 a pound
 
street corner 'tater salad?
 
8:31 PM
I wouldn't pay $0.10 for ten pounds of potato salad
 
@KendallFrey would you buy ten pounds of potato salad for any reason or amount of money?
 
My Raticates' levels are as follows: 400, 300, 291, 289, 220, 217, 167. My highest cp pokemon is a 551 Venomoth.
 
what is a loft?
 
it means you get to live above someone's garage
 
8:32 PM
a vague term. it can be a nice, open apartment, or a shithole above a garage
 
the only thing it definitely means is that there are few walls
 
yea, possible single-room.
 
at least 4 walls
 
notice how neither one has interior walls
 
It usually means a single-room apartment, a few years back it was called a "studio apartment" but people figured out that "loft" sounds fancier
 
8:35 PM
on TV, a loft is a very large expensive apartment with exposed brick walls, a full height window on one side with a view of downtown and lots of sex.
 
essentially my house
 
Gonna need some clarification; is the view of lots of sex, or there's lots of sex in the loft?
 
depends on the night
 
the sex has to only be on one side of the loft, with the window
if you have windows and sex on two sides, then it becomes a flat
 
so.. i don't have a loft or a flat. I've established that much.
 
8:37 PM
What if both sides have windows and sex?
 
Thats what I am looking at
 
oh, then it's the "we turned the attic into a room" kind of loft
 
What if the sex takes place while the windows are open?
 
they just live above the garage
 
does it become a gallery?
 
8:38 PM
@ndugger that's just foolish. You could fall out.
 
Is it art if people watch?
 
@ndugger only in Europe
 
If you have sex in a forest with no one watching or hearing, does it still count as rape?
What if you really just happened to stumble upon the dead possum?
 
hahahahaha
omg i love you guys
 
@Abhishrek as much as that possum?
 
8:40 PM
@Zirak just like whatsisface that claimed he tripped and fell penis-first into the woman he raped
 
I don't even want to know my statistics on that one
 
@SterlingArcher not if you're gay
 
@SterlingArcher hahahaha
 
Every female finds me attractive; they're just too intimidated by my euphoria
 
8:49 PM
@SterlingArcher In the comments, apparently she survived, but some other lady died saving her
 
She got into an arguement, stormed out of the car, in a tiger enclosure, and TURNED HER BACK TO A TIGER
They better not kill the tiger
> Poor tiger, it's just gonna be hungry again in an hour.
ffs
 
bruh lol
 
I kind of want to go for a run today, but I really need to poop. I think I'll go home for a poop, wait a few hours, then go for a run when the gym traffic dies down
 
i heard that the lady who chased after her ending up being killed, whilst the lady who got taken survived
life is so unfair sometimes
 
8:55 PM
@ndugger why not both? simultaneously!
 
I wish I could use my fitbit steps to hatch pokemon go eggs.
Never trust a fart
 
pooping gives you more forward momentum
 
!!afk home, gym, dinner, pokewalk
 
definitely farting does
 
thanks to newton's third law
 
8:58 PM
@ndugger Christ, some of those comments are harsh
saying stupid people need to die because they're a problem, etc. how do people get so jaded?
 
@StephanMuller dealing with stupid people
 
it's also the internet
nobody knows you're a dog
 
To be fair, as we've evolved, Humanity has mostly outgrown natural selection. This is bad news for the state of our own evolution. If we don't weed out the stupid, there won't be much of a future for humanity.
 
take some chan imageboards
 
@ndugger But if we do weed out the stupid, we've already lost our humanity
 
9:02 PM
What you're talking about has nothing to do with the evolutionary aspect of what we are
 
@StephanMuller (y)
 
@ndugger It's either eugenics or advancing our species
 
@StephanMuller citation needed
 
@ssube It's my opinion. No citation needed
 
All I'm saying is that the only people on this planet that will evolve past current homosapien are those that still live in countries where nature is still a threat, and where natural selection still exists. The rest of us mouth breathers will just continue to breed stupid and fail to be anything significant in the grand scheme of things.
I'd like to refer to the Great Barrier... let me find the wikipedia link
 
9:04 PM
Either way, as far as I know humans haven't gotten smarter (aka better brains) in tens of thousands of years. It's just the amount of prior knowledge that grows, enabling us to learn more concepts faster (and look up existing data instead of creating it) that makes us know more things and enables us to do/create better things
 
let's not get ahead of ourselves though, we're not that smart even in our current state
 
Sorry, not great barrier--Great Filter
The Great Filter, in the context of the Fermi paradox, is whatever prevents "dead matter" from giving rise, in time, to "expanding lasting life". The concept originates in Robin Hanson's argument that the failure to find any extraterrestrial civilizations in the observable universe implies the possibility something is wrong with one or more of the arguments from various scientific disciplines that the appearance of advanced intelligent life is probable; this observation is conceptualized in terms of a "Great Filter" which acts to reduce the great number of sites where intelligent life might arise...
This is what lies ahead of us
because we no longer let natural selection dictate the survival of our species
Star Trek will never be real, because we'll kill ourselves off instead
thanks, Obama
 
@ndugger ):
 
wait, how did you get from survival of the fittest to the great filter?
 
@ndugger Also, I think you'll find that educated people tend to have less offspring, thus seemingly working backwards.
 
9:07 PM
Because I'd argue that the Great Filter is heavily related to evolution
 
@KendallFrey which is proof that smart people don't want to contribute to evolution because they know it's a lie!
 
In my opinion, when a species evolves past natural selection, the only thing that will weed them out is themselves, and the stupid ones are generally the ones doing the killing.
The great filter is our own evolution
 
@ndugger but biological mutations still happen, don't they? i mean we aren't stopping mutations from happening as that's kinda out of our control unless we tamper with DNA, right?
 
Yes, but in nature, the bad mutations get weeded out because of natural selection
 
i'm no scientist so please feel free to step in and correct me
 
9:09 PM
Without natural selection, the bad mutations thrive
 
sure
 
@ndugger then the stupid ones become the "nature" doing the "selection" and it's up to the smart ones to evolve a strain that will survive
natural selection is just recursive
 
and my point is you can't stop mutations
 
So?
 
@ndugger No, the best fitting mutations still thrive
 
9:10 PM
so these people that are defined as stupid are just part of our species
 
I don't see how evolution has ended, the filter has just changed
 
Without natural selection, there's nothing to say what mutations are "best fitting"
so, no
 
natural selection hasn't stopped
 
the party doing the selecting has changed from weather to stupid people, that's all
 
9:11 PM
s/natural//
 
we can safely beat external factors, so now we need to start beating ourselves
in bed
at night
 
:o
 
Knu
Iv been searching for a while now, so I am asking here: anyone knows what's the convention for the name of the main method of a single module in CJS? (not node.js)
 
did you just seduce me through science?
 
9:12 PM
@Knu I'm not sure there is one. Many modules export a class, not just a function.
 
Knu
@ssube in my case it's a function
 
@StephanMuller hahah.. oh south park
 
@Knu sure, but I'm not aware of any naming convention besides maybe main.
 
Knu
I though it might be "default"
it seems that exporting a function must be rare if it's not documented anywhere
 
default is a keyword in ES6, so you should avoid that
and yeah, many people prefer to export a class constructor (which is named after the class)
 
9:15 PM
@ssube I would disagree. Natural selection would mean selection for naturally occuring sources, like nature. If we have to weed ourselves out, I don't consider that natural from a human perspective. From an outside perspective, it still could be, but the selection definitely has to come from a different place now that most of us aren't fighting off tigers
 
Right. Eugenics.
 
@ndugger but the stupid people aren't intentionally selecting, they're just stupid
 
@ndugger well my point was i don't think it's a case of waiting for the species to catch up to a certain level of intelligence.. that's a tricky statement by itself. i think a better approach is acceptance, education, love, and so on
maybe that's naive but it's something more along those lines
 
isBestFit(dna) { return true; } //what could go wrong?
 
Knu
@ssube what about the name of the module itself?
require('./name').name()
 
9:21 PM
@Knu really depends on your project setup.
 
Knu
How come there's no convention…
==
 
it varies by project
 
@Luggage I thought it was supposed to be return 4;
@ssube ah, reserved keywords
what a terrible concept
"got the perfect name for your variable? nope!"
 
most of the keywords are really bad variable names tho
 
try writing a parser.
 
9:27 PM
I have :(
 
even when not in such an extreme case, most of them could definitely be used.
 
but var and function and default are terrible names
 
Knu
I am at loss what would be a generic method name --
 
@Knu main or nothin, IMO
 
default could be used in most codebases.
 
9:28 PM
but you should probably avoid most generic names
 
Knu
this all object only restriction is annoying
 
because they are generic
 
let me talk to you about our Savior Lisp.
 
Knu
kick him :)
 
Knu
9:30 PM
@florian do you call kebab-case lisp-case?
 
I didn't know kebab-case was a thing
 
we made a list of all the cases one time
 
Knu
that must be an elaborate yes
 
obviously.
 
9:31 PM
in the JavaScript room, I am known as The Resident Lithper.
 
Anyone know a tool to automatically 'profile' a promise?
 
@Luggage console.time?
 
and all the 'children'.
 
@ssube nice list, although i was taught PascalCase
instead of TitleCase
wat do now??
 
Knu
I am perplexed, I am gonna create a convention.
This is big.
 
9:52 PM
hey any one in d3.js?
 

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