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6:00 PM
not a poutine
completely different concepts
 
Is it?
I just saw the picture on Imgur
Cheese isn't even melted though :(
 
wrong cheese, no gravy
it's fries with shit on them
not sure what it's called specifically
but it isn't a poutine
 
I know it isn't.
I called it Mexitine because it looks like a mexican dish. I was trying to be fucking clever dammit.
 
Poutine is no laughing matter.
I'm not sure it's even matter at all.
 
Poutine is laughing
but it's no matter
 
6:15 PM
@Trasiva poutines to Canadians are like guns to americans.
we dont' fuck around
 
@rlemon Maybe this summer I'll come up for a visit, then you and @KendallFrey can demonstrate what makes it so amazing.
 
demonstrate it by eating it?
 
Well duh.
 
while wearing a horse mask
 
Shit looks too big for one person.
I'd record the shit out of that.
 
6:17 PM
you might get emotional
they're that good
 
We have cheese here, too.
And we already put it on everything. Even cheese.
 
you put fake cheese on real cheese, neither of which are the correct cheese for poutine
Cheese curds, in cuisine or cooking, are the solid parts of curdled milk either eaten alone or used in various regional dishes mostly in Canada and the northeastern and midwestern United States. They are sometimes referred to as "squeaky cheese". == Production == Cheese curds start off with fresh milk. The milk is pasteurized, much like in the process of creating cheese. During this process, rennet is added to clot the milk. After the milk has been pasteurized, the result is a mixture of whey and the early stages of the curd. This mixture is then cooked. Next, it is pressed to release the whey...
you need dis ^
then yea, you can make your own
 
I love wisconsin cheese curds, but usually to get the good stuff you have to actually go there. And Wisconsin drivers blow more than Taiwanese lady boys.
 
nice crispy fries, beef or onion gravy
although I prefer onion gravy for poutine
less salty
 
cheese is made from curd.
 
6:19 PM
curd is also a type of cheese
 
We're gonna eat like kings the entire time I'm up though. If @SterlingArcher gets off his ass, we'll time it so he can come too.
 
cheddar has curds
 
not just the process
> Cheese curds start off with fresh milk. The milk is pasteurized, much like in the process of creating cheese. During this process, rennet is added to clot the milk. After the milk has been pasteurized, the result is a mixture of whey and the early stages of the curd. This mixture is then cooked. Next, it is pressed to release the whey from the curd, thus creating the final product of cheese curd.
hrm, TIL there is yellow curds. don't use those
white curds only
 
Wisconsin is known for decent cheese curds
You could most definitely get decent poutine there
 
half-finished cheese in gravy.
 
6:22 PM
half-finished is not entirely correct. they add a clotting agent
 
half moldy milk chunks with dead animal sauce on dirt fruit shavings
2
 
sounds delicious
 
mmm-mmmmmm
 
:poutine: <- I need to add that
 
soylent kurds are people!
 
6:24 PM
6 mins ago, by Trasiva
I love wisconsin cheese curds, but usually to get the good stuff you have to actually go there. And Wisconsin drivers blow more than Taiwanese lady boys.
 
Very true
 
@rlemon But what about inside out?
 
spacetelescope.org/static/archives/images/large/opo0902a.jpg Hubble-Spitzer colour mosaic of the galactic centre [6149 x 2902]
cc @KendallFrey
 
@rlemon God, that's gorgeous.
 
6:34 PM
I can see my house.
new wallpaper.
 
@ssube @BenFortune @SterlingArcher Don't think I told you, but I got Amir the other day from my Ifrit scroll. He's my new Hydeni hell farmer.
 
^ is my current wallpaper if anyone wants it
 
Which rocket is that?
 
So far I haven't found anything better than Jool looming through the sunrise clouds of Laythe
 
@Trasiva srsly?
 
6:40 PM
I know it's an Apollo rocket
If I had to guess, 7. I just wanted confirmation, yeesh.
 
Saturn V
 
Ah, okay.
 
second stage, right?
 
looks like a full 501
nope, similar
Saturn 205
that's the one
@Trasiva you were correct on the apollo number
 
Thought the photo looked familiar.
 
6:43 PM
I'll always love the look of the saturn rockets
 
They are a nice rocket.
Anyone have much familiarity with ioctl on linux machines?
 
Hey @Luggage, you still here?
 
No
 
Oh well could you tell him when he gets back I had a question about.....
Wait a minute...
 
6:47 PM
Delta IV Heavy w/ a crossfeed system as planned for Falcon 9 heavy should be an awesome lifter. I don't think they have plans for that, though
 
these charts just give me a very bad KSP itch
 
I have a question about the fiddle, not necessarily related to what you were trying to showcase... How does setting the "dangerouslySetInnerHTML" attribute on that div work?
 
@rlemon Build all the rockets!
 
@rlemon how are they arranged?
 
I think I'll try to build a Voskhod tonight
 
6:49 PM
The bottom large russian ones never flew successfully
the buran and the N1
 
@Neoares looks like mass
 
@Vap0r that's how to use innerHTML in react. They discourage it.
dumping html in your page is dangerous.
 
yes...
 
How does it know to set that as the html? And why not just set it like so:
<div>{dangerContent}</div>
 
@rlemon not mass
 
6:49 PM
and how do they recommend to do it?
 
that would output html as text.
 
@Neoares yea, I didn't actually check.
just noticed they listed mass
 
um, don't. don't put hml in your document,. it could be anything. script tags, etc.
 
I know
 
@rlemon I had no idea the Falcon was so big
 
6:50 PM
Is it really html, or text?
 
It 'd be nice if they were arranged by year
 
you used innerHTML, so I assumed it was actual html, with tags and all.
 
@Luggage It's not html with tags and all, just text like your example. What should I use for text? I think I was using innerText but ran into a conflict with one of my browsers.
 
@KendallFrey I think the scale makes it look closer to Saturn V than it is
 
ok, updated for plain text: jsfiddle.net/luggage66/bLnc9uwt/1
 
6:52 PM
because I'm pretty sure it is like 2/3rds the height of the saturn v
or less
 
Also, there isn't as much reason to set the data-ID in react.
 
Is there a simple way to reach the desired output:
Output so far: https://www.website.com/my_cart/add_multiple_items?items[]=SKU-0205&items[]=SKU-0205&items[]=SKU-0205&items[]=SKU-0305&items[]=SKU-0210

Desired output(`|3` is the quantity of the skus): https://www.website.com/my_cart/add_multiple_items?items[]=SKU-0205|3&items[]=SKU-0305&items[]=SKU-0210

Code:
 
but I coppied that anyway.
 
falcon 9 - 230ft
saturn v - 363ft
 
    var items = ["SKU-0205", "SKU-0205", "SKU-0205", "SKU-0305", "SKU-0210"];

    function serializeCart(items) {
      let str:string = '';
      for (let i of this.items) {
        if (i !== this.items[0]) {
          str += '&'
        }
        str += 'items[]=' + i;
      }
      return str; // string
    }
serializeCart(items);
 
6:54 PM
typescript?
 
yes, but i tried to take the TS elements out.
 
str:string <-
 
original:
private serializeCart() {
    let str:string = '';
    for (let i of this.items) {
      if (i !== this.items[0]) {
        str += '&'
      }
      str += 'items[]=' + i;
    }
    return str || false;
  }
 
@Luggage haha yeah that was my way of emulating that bit of functionality from react. And alright you convinced me.
 
Let them know I sent you. I get commission.
 
6:55 PM
Waiting for a UPS truck to drive up with an Oculus Touch is worse than trying to fall asleep as a kid on Christmas Eve
 
@KendallFrey Whiskey. The solution to both problems.
 
The chat mangled my urls:
Output so far: `/my_cart/add_multiple_items?items[]=SKU-0205&items[]=SKU-0205&items[]=SKU-0205&items[]=SKU-0305&items[]=SKU-0210`

Desired output(`|3` is the quantity of the skus): `/my_cart/add_multiple_items?items[]=SKU-0205|3&items[]=SKU-0305&items[]=SKU-0210`
 
You had whiskey as a kid on Christmas Eve?
That explains a lot
 
@Luggage You sure you want to be the sole harbinger of all the reactJS code I produce from here on out?
 
No, I had to do it the old fashioned way.
@Vap0r for the right hourly rate.
 
6:57 PM
@jake please stop multi pinging me
 
@Luggage I told you I work in government right?
 
if you fuck up the formatting, remove the ping when editing
 
Maybe.
 
@rlemon what's a multiping?
@rlemon and how do I not do it?
 
@Vap0r this is multi pings
 
6:57 PM
Wut???
oh... that's quite excellent
and obnoxious.
 
Had no idea it did that, good to know
 
yea.. i wish they'd fix that, so I can edit messages
I make a lot of mistakes.
 
if I have to edit more than once, I usually try to remember to edit out the ping
 
Pressing up is so nice
 
the client will still report the old pings to the correct message
so you're not losing that
 
6:59 PM
noted.
 
@Luggage moving this boilerplate to an electron app now
should be fun
 
shouldn't be too bad.
@ndugger will help you with all your electron needs.
feel free to ping him any time.
 
I only know jQuery
 
just a handful of changes to the gulp/webpack files and changing the 'server' to be the app
 
Since you know what JS features electron supports, you can probably turn off a LOT of the .babelrc
 
7:01 PM
and React seems a lot more sensible with electron. there is no server.
 
react don't give a fuck
 
React + Electron is super bae
 
not from a React point of view, from a personal point of view
 
@Luggage you said you're not familiar with reactJS in an MS environment, so this may be less familiar territory for you, but knowing now how I'll be using reactJS in this application, what do I need to start developing? I've seen mention of webpack for Visual Studio. I know I'm gonna need babel, but much past that I don't know what I need.
 
webpack and babel are my tools of choice. Personally, I'd just use them standalone. trying to use them "in" visual studio seems pointless
but some people do.
perhaps some value in having them build with the rest of the project, but.. meh.
you are on your own there. I don't use VS anymore. I might in the future, but I'm on mac right now.
 
7:06 PM
@Luggage I would agree with this, didn't know they could standalone. And alright fair enough me being on my own now as compared to this morning before our discussion is a lot less daunting. Now, you had told me about developing as an SPA. I forgot to mention that this application will have to work well on mobile tablets and phones, still internally. Would that change your opinion?
 
No. that may affect your choices in CSS / UI tools.
and maybe the load times for a single-bundle SPA will be longer on those devices and that may make dynamic loading of pages as you need them more desirable
but it'll work just fine.
as long as these aren't old tablets and phones, you may not even notice until your app gets really big.
And with minimizing / gzipping you can keep the d/l size for the entire app under 1mb (not counting fonts)
I do, and I have a LOT of bloat in mine.
1 mb, set to cache so it only re-download when you update. That's not too bad.
 
Nope they are relatively new devices. And as far as CSS/UI tools what would that entail? I plan on using LESS or SASS (I think SASS) but hadn't thought I would need anything else.
Where does node.js fit in? Is webpack a node.js replacement in this instance?
 
The same techniques you'd use to make a responsive web page with any 'framework'
react doesn't care.
webpack runs on node.js. it's written in JS and you use it at build time.
same with babel.
so. node.js will be a development dependency, but not runtime.
I think VS comes with node.js, now?
as long as it's not really really old, it'll be fine.
 
Ok well that's neat. And since it's only a dev dependency I won't need it on my production server. Neat.
 
right. unless you build your webpack bundle on your prod server, like I do
but no, not mandatory.
you can build, then just put the bundles on the produciton server.
 
7:14 PM
In an SPA how do I simulate navigation? It seems like an SPA is going to need an application state manager, right?
 
yes. it reads it's own url and shows the right 'page' accordingly.
look up "html5 history" and* "SPA router"
many people like 'react-router'. I use history + a url parser (there are MANY)
 
@Luggage I'm fine with coding it this way, my main concern is that the organization I work for is using this application as a "litmus" test of whether or not we will use reactJS moving forward. Most of the developers are unfamiliar with SPA design. How much new (to someone used to separate pages and using ES5) unfamiliar tools, methodologies, and frameworks will I need to accomplish this?
 
first, the es5 vs 6 thing should not be an issue. es6 is the standard. It's even outdated. es5 only still is even talked about because of older browsers (IE11 and earlier)
es6 is not some fancy "addition" to JS like JSX is.
 
@Luggage I agree, but our standard browser is IE11, so there are quite a few issues.
 
as for all the other libraries, they all have equivelents in the traditional way of makeing web pages, too. You needed a router in the past (asp.net mvc is/has a router)
you also needed a view templating tool (like razor)
the only difference here is they are ALL in JS instead of a mixture of C# and JS
(or PHP and JS, etc)
well, babel makes using IE11 with new ES6 a non issue. Your devs only need to know ES6 and that's is. babel translates
there are a FEW es6 features that won't translate (like proxies), but if they are bitching and moaning about react, they aren't in that league.
 
7:21 PM
Fair enough.
 
you can tell them I said that.
 
Lol honestly this is therapeutic in a way. I know enough to know this is a good way of doing it, but since I'm so green I don't know enough to argue it. Those arguments you gave to me I'm going to pass right on to them with a note: "With love: Luggage"
 
If they are intimately familiar with some other tool that they prefer, that may be a good reason to use that, but if they are not, then they still need to learn all the same parts (router, view, state management, etc)
Like, if they use and love asp.net mvc, maybe that's a good choice for them.
 
They are fans of asp.net MVC, me not so much, but this will be a good sell to them. I've heard some pros and cons of SPA, what is the correct name for the alternative to an SPA? MPA?
 
Using an SPA is also a good first step in using more advanced features, like offline apps.
or isomorphic
but you don't need to go there, yet.
yea, i guess, multi page applicatin
 
7:25 PM
What are the main cons, in this instance, of using an MPA?
 
even a multi-page app uses some of the same boilerplate on each page, so it's like an SPA but with only one page loaded for each refresh
both are valid.. but I like treating my client as an application, instead of a bunch of separate pages flying in close formation
you can find pros/cons oline.. not interested is sitting here trying to make a sales pitch for you
 
Lol fair enough.
Thanks again I think I'm gonna go have some fun.
 
The delivery guy walked all the way from the road to deliver my package. That's a few hundred feet <3
@Loktar guess what
 
reselect question - I have a selector that utilizes another selector, but when the first one updates, it doesn't seem to trigger the second one.
import { createSelector } from 'reselect';

const getUser = (state) => state.user;
const getRegions = (state) => state.regions;
const getSelectedRegion = (state) => state.selectedRegion;
const getSeals = (state) => state.seals;
const getSignatures = (state) => state.signatures;

export const userData = createSelector(
[ getUser, getSeals, getSignatures ],
 
@ScottH Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
7:40 PM
@KendallFrey yeaaah boooy
get that shit activated and try it out!
also grats
 
ah man, something went wrong with the indentation... but note how the second selector uses the first selector
(of the longer selectors)
userData triggers and produces a changed result, but sealRegions does not trigger after that.
 
I love the smell of new hardware in the morning
 
@KendallFrey yesssss
I love the smell of a new GPU getting warm for the first time
 
@KendallFrey We need embarrassing eye-opening videos of you trying out vr porn
 
@KendallFrey btw, I now have a rig that qualifies as bare minimum (actually a bit higher when benchmarked) for rift / vive
so you should totally bring yours over one day
😃
 
7:50 PM
s/one /to
 
nahh
 
@rlemon (or rather, Holly) happy birthday!
 
I'll pass it on
@KendallFrey
I think I might get this printed and framed
not huge, but like a nice little desk picture
 
grrr, why so picky about sensor location
 
I'm having a problem with event listeners, you guys
 
7:58 PM
did you send them to their room?
maybe have a stern talking to them
 
Did you give them a good ol' fashioned spanking?
 
@rlemon I almost shared that this morning, but I figured you or Kendall already did.
 
I was questioning it because it is a misquote
but I'll allow it because I think it's funny
 
I always had the same thought when I saw our military craft take off.
 
!!afk early fridays are the best fridays
 
8:00 PM
It always amazed me that it took off and flew as well as it did. Every single time.
 
lowest bidder than can manufacture a part to spec
if the specs are good and they aren't lying, you are fine.
This isn't the same as just buying the cheapest item at walmart.
 
Guys, I have decided to use vbscript for all my applications. Can you see any problems with this going forward?
 
No. Have fun
 
lol
Livescript and JScript were also considerations.
 
Tell us more
 
8:10 PM
Tell us more
 
Tell us more
 
Telus Moore
 
user2620028
is it bad that you guys say that and my first thought is rocky horror and not grease :/
 
Yes, you filthy hobo
 
I don't have more to say guys I'm sorry.
 
8:13 PM
Metal? Larping? Fuck yeah. @rlemon
 
Well that was fun
They were right, having hands is really immersive
 
Well, if you don't have hands how can you immerse them in things
Like, for example, your mom.
 
@HatterisMad Would you like to know more?
 
user2620028
starship troopers?
 
@SterlingArcher You need to do this HoH, Bering is huge for PVP.
@HatterisMad Mhmmm
 
8:18 PM
I haven't been able to play today @Trasiva 😬 I'm really busy and I'm sick and working from home
rough friday
 
@SterlingArcher Don't care, you have all weekend. Your light Panda + Berin is fucking mean.
 
But on the bright side to this shithole of a project, I'm nominated for 7/10 awards for tomorrows holiday party and I should be officially promoted next week :D
 
Nice
 
@Trasiva I was thinking of crowd control with Julien
 
@Loktar What's the little Rockband doohickey for?
 
8:21 PM
@KendallFrey Rockband probably
 
What part of Rockband is it for?
 
¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
@SterlingArcher You actually do work? I thought all you do was hang around here, imgur, /r/yogapants and somehow be notified of random metal-ish songs
 
More or less lol
But I'm doing Meteor.js right now
Really makes you appreciate Angular
Styx cover ftw
 
user2620028
8:32 PM
@SterlingArcher but... the original doesn't sound like pop country
 
> pop country
triggered
 
user2620028
is that not pop country?
 
At the minimum that's rock
 
user2620028
i guess i have a different definition of rock
 
Story of youtube's life lol
 
8:34 PM
does anyone know where in the Event Viewer one could find healthMonitoring logs?
 
user2620028
@SterlingArcher can we change the title back? I didn't get this joke.
 
Refresh your page
I wasn't involved lol
youtube.com/watch?v=QmtRMoMWUKE this is rock to me lol
 
user2620028
i refreshed?
 
user2620028
i think that is what i would call emo
 
user2620028
oh emo with screaming
 
user2620028
8:36 PM
screamo
 
omg is that why it's called screamo?
are people still emo now a days?
 
user2620028
 
are we still explaining jokes to @HatterisMad?
 
user2620028
@towc i was trying to get him to explain it but i let it go
 
I'm pretty sure he's explaining to me now lol
 
user2620028
8:40 PM
@SterlingArcher my idea of rock. youtube.com/watch?v=bgOA24hAe60
 
@SterlingArcher Works well with Jules too, but you can't ignore Tian Lang if anyone uses ATB raise/lower abilities (almost everyone uses them with Bella or Bernard), plus Tian Lang is a cleanser too.
 
That's true
 
Don't forget the second skill also can stun too. That's pretty OP, and matches Julien in that regard.
 
Maybe a good AO team for crowd control: Bella/Emma, Tian Lang, Julien, Bering
 
Remember that Tian Lang has the 44% max hp buff for GW too.
 
8:42 PM
Maybe replace Bella/Emma with Vero for debuff and more stun
True, I need a good GW leader
 
Why the fuck isn't Chasun awoken yet?
She's a Nat 4, shit's easy.
 
lol paused because events
I'm tempted to feed Hwahee and my water sky dancer to Chasun
 
Don't do that
At least not Hwahee
 
water is good for food though?
 
Also, remember if you start 6* mons for the first time for an attrib, you'll get a free devilmon.
 
8:47 PM
Yup, working on 6*ing my main dungeon crew
I got a devil coming in 2 days for 6*ing vero
Moar Lushen powah
 
Uh...I've never heard anyone feeding mihyang.
She's another monster healer when you need attrib superiority.
You even bother looking at her second and third power?
 
Yeah but I already have a water healer lol
 
Who
 
But that is a good buff/debuff..
Emma
 
Miyhang is mostly for AD. Emma's more offensive.
I mean, and you should be getting devils every week from arena.
 
8:51 PM
I do, I only use devils on one mon at a time though
Lushen is about.. 3/4 fully powered
 
Well, remember that Emma's heal is -stupid- slow.
 
Need 6* fatals though
Yeah she needs power ups to be good
and I'm retarded and accidentally fed my Megan I just pulled to an evolution
 
6 turns without devils, versus 4 unbuffed for Mihyang
Eh
Megans are a dime a dozen.
 
I pull them pretty frequently with unknowns.
If I cared, I'd have a maxed skill one.
 
8:53 PM
really? my unknowns 3* luck is rough
 
@Trasiva This sounds so adolescent
 
I really want a Daphnis
 
If I could tell you how many mystic witches I've fed for star food.
 
Hellfire is hella powerful
 
I'd take the water one.
Sub 30s faimon hell farming.
 
8:54 PM
hellwater
 
Psamathe?
 
Yep
Too bad you seem to have all my MS summoning luck, you fuck.
 
lmao yeah, I don't know how to use Sekhmet yet. Looks like she's the best DQ
 
Depends
She'd be great with Despair/Focus as CC
You'll obviously need sub speeds on everything, 'cause she's so slow
 
If I don't get Bering she'd be good with Tian
 
8:58 PM
damnit. citrix gotoAssist is dropping day passes
 
But spd/hp%/acc% would do wonders.
 
no way I am paying them $70/month
 
@Luggage That's dumb on their part
 

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