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6:00 PM
@Cereal "ReferenceError: Window is not defined"
 
Atom has been making some real progress
 
Still an upgrade from Windows :d
 
It's very nice to use linux, it makes you use the terminal more often.
 
1.0 is out this month
 
Well I could have used DOS.
:p
 
6:01 PM
I tried Atom, but it was incredibly unresponsive. Everything just felt slow, like I was back on Eclipse.
 
@ssube me too!
I had been using Eclipse back when I was developing PHP websites
 
hey, window.CHAT is a thing in this chatroom
 
lol, you kids and your PHP
 
@Cereal lol wth
I haven't seen it do that
the pathfinding I mean, thats nutty
 
@Loktar I only changed the sizing to make it full screen without cutting off. Worked 99% of the time
 
6:03 PM
@Catgocat you probably will want to add these setting to your Preferences > Settings-User
{
    "always_show_minimap_viewport": true,
    "caret_style": "phase",
    "default_line_ending": "unix",
    "highlight_line": true,
    "line_padding_bottom": 2,
    "line_padding_top": 2,
    "shift_tab_unindent": true,
    "show_encoding": true,
    "show_line_endings": true,
    "translate_tabs_to_spaces": true,
    "trim_trailing_white_space_on_save": true
}
 
Haters gon hate. There is nothing wrong with Sublime. It is an excellent editor and many people's first choice. There is also nothing wrong with Atom, or Brackets, or webstorm, or w/e -- the only editors that need hate are eclipse (maybe not anymore, but it use to be crazy slow) and DreamWeaver
if you use frontpage today you deserve the hate
 
@Catgocat I'm using Monokai (SL) theme for Sublime Text 3
 
dreamweaver and frontpage are the worst. Eclipse and Atom are just slow.
 
Afterglow theme for Sublime is damn sexy
 
@taco I'm using Monokai too
 
6:03 PM
/me prefers "Soda Dark" ... assuming that you did not mean colour scheme
 
@catgocats you also got me to try Brackets. It's alright
 
webstorm/intellij make a lot of assumptions about how your project is set up, which gets annoying
I would be really enjoying VSCode as a smoother version of Atom, but it doesn't have vi mode
 
@Catgocat try @SomeKittens theme github.com/SomeKittens/ST-Hot-Dog-Stand
 
6:04 PM
god
that's
very red
 
lol
 
@taco I am tempted to flag it for moderators as "evil"
 
Hot Dog Stand was a color scheme in Windows 3.1
so bad
 
window.legalImgurSizes is also a thing in here.
 
.. and I had to add a user to ignore list to stop the pain
 
6:06 PM
to be fair, colors were not that rich on shit CRT's from the 90's
 
I used to have a 24" CRT monitor
 
@tereško if that user was taco, you made a mistake. if that user was Cat you waited too long.
 
@rlemon ah true
 
how many monitors do you guys have?
like.. 1?
2?
 
6:07 PM
we're all spoiled now with these LSD displays that can display any color of the metaphysical rainbow
 
3
 
on a single pc? 2. all together? ummmm 7
 
monitors? 3 at home, 2 at work
 
2 at work, 3 at home on my main desktop
 
3 at home, 7 at work :/
 
6:08 PM
one monitor, 3440x1440, one PC and SonyZ2 as secondary screen
 
including my laptop
 
3 at work. I'm including my laptop monitor. 1 at home usually
 
2x24" at work, home has one 27" on the tablet, and a 60" on the desktop
 
lol
 
how does it feel to program with 3+ monitors?
compared to one
 
6:08 PM
bad
 
confusing (I already get lost in two monitors)
 
you only need two
 
@Catgocat 3 > 1. 2 > 3
 
its really easy to get distracted
 
domain squatters make me want to go back in time and uninvent the internet
 
6:09 PM
I'm on 3 however, it doesn't help much. I'm thinking of going back to 2.
I needed one just for this Chat room... LOL you guys are too funny.
 
@MadaraUchiha 1.2 monitors? do you cut one in five pieces?
 
@ssube one ultra-wide is better than two
 
@rlemon I feel like this picture isnt new
 
you can't see one that is tucked under the top left, and I've since added two more on the back side.
 
6:09 PM
@MadaraUchiha I was joking I got it :p
 
:/
 
Nice setup rlemon.
 
@rlemon are you working in a NOC?
 
@BenCraig my desk is too messy to take another
 
@rlemon that looks so bad
confusing
 
6:10 PM
I especially like the water on the lowest point.
 
do you do things standing up ?
 
@taco NOC?
 
lol
 
yeah, water/beer positioning is important
 
@Catgocat standing > sitting
 
6:11 PM
oh god
 
I stand as well
 
really guys
 
@tereško eh, I like two for the curve
 
yes, you know he is standing up and programming like a cheer leader.
 
6:11 PM
mine are lined up so one is almost in front of me and one is slightly off to the side
 
@rlemon nevermind I see your setup now. I had a lot of monitors when I had to literally "monitor" things in a Network Operation Center. I think your monitor setup could use more cyberpunk.
 
standing is better for you and makes you more productive.
 
@ssube yeah ... I use one .. which already has a curve =P
 
As a person with some dignity, I will not use curved monitors.
 
I would
 
6:12 PM
@ssube I have always imagined 2 monitors, one for programming other for seeing the results
 
@rlemon throw a pile of network cables on your monitors and call it cyberpunk
 
they look sexy and are functional
 
/browsing/
 
I sit down to do heavy problem solving. I get a pad of paper and just jot out possible solutions. Otherwise, I'm standing
 
@taco if you look close there is rope lighting under my keyboard riser
 
6:12 PM
When the robots take over and kill us all and we're forced into an underground cyberpunk lifestyle, I'll have two flat monitors.
 
I pimped my desk yo
 
3440x1440 is the (near) future
 
You all can live in your curved monitor minority report world.
 
still using my old 1080p
 
I'll be outside of the matrix.
 
6:13 PM
@rlemon yeah too bright for cyberpunk
 
lol
looks slick with the lights out
 
But the real question is how do you know you are not immortal?
 
Wait... you mean you dont have a FPGA development board on your desk? @rlemon
 
I guess you can only get the answer once.
 
@Asher those are off to the side (your left)
the pot box is hooked upto one
 
6:14 PM
lol
Well.. is that a home setup?
 
no
 
Also, why are you using ubuntu?!
 
that is work
why are you not?
 
@ssube as someone who has been in the matrix for 3 months now: the water is fine
 
@rlemon because it has no packages and questionable support
I'd rather have well-supported but outdated packages :D
 
6:14 PM
I wish I had desktops at work :(
 
this was my desk before I got my laptop
 
@Cereal w500-series brah
 
you can see better the stuff that was relocated to the left
 
whh
it looks so messy
 
also I still smoked then
 
6:15 PM
I've got an i7-3840 and 24GB in a dock, hooked up to a real mouse and keyboard
 
@Catgocat R&D brah, shit gets messy
 
@ssube but does it have a displayport ;_;
 
well fuck me sideways
brb calling boss
 
6:17 PM
dark picture, but this is my home setup
*for now
I can't wait to setup my new office.
(the TBBT posters are just covering holes... my mom still thinks I'm 22)
 
Whats the side projects on the left?
 
(not mine though but I like the style)
 
I need to take a newer pic of my office
old pic
 
@Cereal I used to have a mac, but kept bothering folks for a windows machine until they gave me one
 
6:18 PM
I have a much nicer KB, TV, and chair
 
mac had a low-end i5 and 8gb, lenovo has a good i7 and 24gb
 
@Asher I work for a company that develops embedded control systems and process automation
 
and was half the price
 
I need a better chair
 
I need to set up all my shit. I have 4 monitors and a TV, and half of it's just not plugged in, taking up space
 
6:18 PM
@Asher he makes canadian corn machines
 
@Loktar I like the more recent pic you posted
 
Yesh
 
oh wait thats newer
but the tv in the lower left is bigger now
 
@Loktar What's the box on the left
 
6:19 PM
have a 14" pvm
 
ah
 
@Loktar there is one with you sitting in the chair wearing headphones.
 
@Loktar Thiis is my planned layout
 
@Catgocat time to get another monitor?
 
How is it? Does it work well?
 
6:20 PM
 
Well I could get another one..
 
@MadaraUchiha yeah works really well
 
Sometimes it doesn't fit my needs.
 
I love it!
 
my setup, more or less
 
6:20 PM
although i don't use the TV on top as much as id like, I ignore it most days
 
@Loktar How far from the main monitor can you be before you can't really work on it?
 
True ^
 
Comment: Man a lot of windows guys on there... Seriously?
 
most of our home systems are windows
 
eh not too far from the main monitor really, the TV I can be like 5 feet away
 
6:21 PM
we are gamers
 
A lot of us use windows with VMs, too
 
@Asher I enjoy having lots of software available to me.
 
Oooh... I forget some of you guys are like 2X.
;)
 
I let corporate IT manage the Windows machine, they installed VMware, I do my business on that
 
I have more linux installs than windows, but my main home pc is windows
 
6:21 PM
@Asher whats age have to do with it, I'm 32
 
I'm root where I care, they get to manage things, we're all happy
 
I'm 29, I'm almost 3x
 
@Cereal I like the cat
 
I feel like more young kids are inclined to use linux today than when I was a kid
 
@rlemon if we're counting servers and VPSes, I have like 3 windows installs and a dozen or two nix
 
6:22 PM
@BenCraig He comes with the setup.
 
very jealous
I want a cat
 
micro$oft is so bad bruh. Welcome to 2003
 
@rlemon nice setup however. similar to mine. I kinda walked away from ubuntu recently... I'm not into main stream linux anymore.
 
or several
 
@BenCraig want mine?
I got two
 
6:22 PM
Most of these photos are windows...
 
gf hates the one, and I will never split them up
 
1 mac for work, 1 windows for gaming. Nice and simple.
 
omg yes, but I cant actually take them :((
 
makes me sad, but as long as they are in a good home I cannot complain
 
6:23 PM
@Asher because most desktops are Windows, makes sense :P
 
Windows is actually okay though... I'm kinda thinking Windows 10 should be okay... I might pay for it even. Actually, I think its really bad to pirate windows.
 
 
Need to rent a place that will actually let me have pets
 
w7 and w8 are perfectly fine
hell, XP was ok back in its day
 
I like having the left monitor vertical. It's great for coding
 
6:24 PM
hey I have that same buddah @taco!
 
7 and 8 just moved toward a more sane arch that allows doing stuff
 
its awesome lol
 
I agree I'm on w8. it's fine. You get used to the start 'screen' and just pin any app you use often anyway.
 
@taco I'm jelly of the vert monitor
 
Why sublime? why not just old school gedit/vim/emacs... is sublime that good? They dont even open source that.
 
6:24 PM
@taco I would have to alter my monitor stands to do that
 
@Loktar I got the buddha at a White Elephant party a few years ago
 
This is unrelated, but I went to this church in paris
 
haha nice
 
It's stunning
 
@Asher I moved from VIM to sublime. idk, I just like it. VIM is still nice, but sublime is also nice :P
 
6:24 PM
lol.
 
legit can't wait for limetext.org
 
y u no lemontext
 
though, I think some of the open source editors will surpass sublime, soon
 
@rlemon I dont know ... I kinda think its smart to support totally open source no?
 
@Asher why?
 
6:25 PM
^
 
Id rather give people who work hard my money honestly
 
I love open source. but closed source has a very very important role
 
rather than a gold star.
 
However, we should pay for software if they ask... I'm not against windows in that way. Microsoft Research has done a LOT of good stuff.
 
@Loktar pretty much feel the same on all aspects here.
:D
<3
 
6:26 PM
You get a gold star bro
<3
 
:( it's white for me
lol
 
racist
 
I need to buy a neon keyboard
 
I starred the wrong thing oh well
 
We all probably have half a dozen editors we use in different scenarios, open source and not.
 
6:26 PM
Hey, I found a recent picture of my home setup! Which is all going to change since I got kicked out uni..
 
So, for web development your doing good with sublime. I haven't messed with it much. I might. However, I still think its smart for people to try various things.
 
@Loktar open source isn't about not giving people money
 
@Luggage I'm pretty much Sublime/VIM and occasionally VS
 
@KendallFrey true, but most closed source is not free
nice pad @Cereal
 
@Asher sublime supports many languages. I do c++ and Java (ugh, never repeat this) in ST
 
6:27 PM
Right the whole Open Source how to get money from projects thing needs to be carefully thought out.
 
dogs > cats
 
nice cat ass @Cereal
 
OMG @rlemon DOES JAVA. EVERYBODY: LEMON DOES JAVA
 
@ssube I avoid it when possible.
MOST PLC's use Java as a scripting language
er, a flavour of Java
 
I've been learning java, and I can already see many places where C# wins
 
6:28 PM
so do ETL tools
 
in embedded, java is everywhere
 
Scala would be better than just stright up java, methinks
 
you cannot avoid it
 
@rlemon Well, its nice your doing some C++ development. I'm having such a pain with hardware development these days.. everything is moving so fast.
 
@NickDugger not really. Scala burns tons of memory.
 
6:29 PM
java doesn't even have default values for parameters. What kind of shit is that?
 
buy third part products, reverse engineer them, tweak them to your needs. win
:D
 
scala is really really inefficient
 
I'll believe you
 
Yeah, so is there a way to do serious development in Lua or Scala or anything like that or people just messing around? I'm kinda into functional programming... I actually do DO some javascript with functional programming in mind.
 
but at least it has default values for parameters, I think
 
6:30 PM
Java does a DNS lookup when you compare URLs for equality
 
it's not a problem on servers, but on embedded stuff, the whole immutable thing is killer
 
@rlemon Cats you say?
 
Does anyone have benchmarks comparing Javascript to everything else speed wise.
 
@KendallFrey it does em more often than that
 
All you people and your cats are making me really sad
 
6:30 PM
@Asher no benchmarks. go away.
 
really?
fuck Java.
 
(cat pictures are hilarious right on the keyboard... seriously.)
 
With a condom made of poison ivy.
 
make an HTTP connection to an IP? it'll resolve your hostname and occasionally turn the dest IP into a hostname back into an IP
 
yay java
 
6:31 PM
my babies
 
I'm learning it because a lot of MN jobs are java
 
I was looking at some game made in JavaScript recently. I was WOW. It was fast too. Maybe not Quake fast.
 
@NickDugger you mean a lot of enterprise jobs
 
My mouse is under there somewhere
 
6:32 PM
everything around DC is Java
 
@ssube It depends on the city
 
gosh nice cat... so thats part of the software programming approach?
 
In Houston, most jobs are C#
 
If cat doesn't like it then... else...
 
6:33 PM
In Canada, most jobs are maple syrup
 
as payment, or the job itself?
 
yes
I have about 100L of it in my basement
 
fat cat cleaning herself.
 
Has anyone on here tried using that syntax in C# with for.parallel()? I really want to use that someday.
 
my life
 
6:34 PM
Stop the cats. Dogs are better
 
@Asher What do you mean?
 
and as a bonus, here is the smallest frog I've ever seen irl.
 
@Cereal stop rubbing that kb in my face! :P
 
did you eat it?
 
6:36 PM
no I kissed it
 
!!s/(?=b )/no/
 
@KendallFrey @Cereal stop rubbing that knob in my face! :P (source)
 
@KendallFrey Well, for parallel programming they have some new syntax. Its kinda like not using the same variable twice withing the same block.
 
now I have a very small prince who refuses to leave my house
 
@Asher I don't recall any syntax changes for parallel
 
6:37 PM
Why I can't leave my bookbag open
 
I think posting a poll for a room talk was a mistake. I'm gonna have to do 4 talks.
 
@KendallFrey There maybe some compiler optimizations that are done to parallel the code, I kinda wonder if JavaScript does that? Congratulations to Microsoft on c# I guess. There is a lot of .asp code out there.
 
@Cereal Put out a garbage bag and throw em away if he crawls in
 
@Asher I have no idea what you're talking about, and C# is the language I use all day every day.
 
@Asher JS doesn't do parallel
 
6:39 PM
Does the JavaScript engine do any optimizations?
 
the JavaScript engine?
 
I imagine it depends on the engine
 
Most popular JS implementations are heavily optimized
 
I do try to use callbacks whenever I can.
 
@Asher by callbacks, do you mean async?
 
6:41 PM
@Loktar What's your steamid
 
If so, use promises, as rlemon would say
 
Yeah, callback functions, where your function calls another function when its complete.
 
callbacks are not an optimization
 
not sure I changed it, maybe its lok-tar?
 
6:41 PM
async is merely a pattern
 
if you look for loktar youll find me, or just add me through there
 
Yeah, maybe.
 
Also callbacks are not necessarily async
 
indeed
 
steam level 55 holy
 
6:43 PM
e.g. [1,2,3].forEach(function() { }) is a synchronous callback
 
psh thats nothing man.. there are people over 500 its insane :/
 
@Loktar holy shit what percentage of the steam library do you own
 
how to become expert at touch typing :(
 
O_O
 
eh maybe 25% now?
 
6:43 PM
@akaRash 10,000 hours
 
the amount of games has gone up significantly since early access
@KendallFrey perfect answer :)
 
@KendallFrey serious please :(
 
shit, opened my steam profile, forgot I set it to be a collage of screenshots with naked people
 
10k hours to become an expert
 
Any other patterns people use in JavaScript. Seriously, I do try to use functional programming in JavaScript.
 
6:44 PM
@akaRash it is serious
 
@akaRash <-- serious
 
RGB masterrace (yes my desk is filthy)
 
haha nice @BenFortune I have the k65 rgb
 
I don't have 10k hours to practice it. I want something magical to happen
 
6:44 PM
friggin love it
 
You can't touch type? Do you look at your keyboard to type?
 
I can touch type, but not perfectly.
I mean I make mistakes.
 
I can touch type perfectly, at speed
 
130wpm master race
 
@akaRash go to the marshmallow forests, find a young virgin unicorn, and give him a blowjob.
 
6:45 PM
@Cereal 145 :>
 
I can touch type at maybe 70-75 wpm
 
@BenFortune filthy desk, mismatching monitors 5/10 would not look at again
 
I can hunt-n-peck at about 50 wpm
 
but nice kb :)
 
motherfu-
I'd post a 10fastfingers test for the room, but I got banned from it
 
6:46 PM
really?
 
I should probably buy a can of compressed air
 
Hey Steam! I like your security feature that detects i'm on a new pc.... it would be very helpful however if you EMAILED ME THE BLOODY ACCESS CODE!!!
 
Turns out they ban you if you write a script to do the test for you
I got my code
 
@BenFortune i'll sell you all the cans of air you need m8
 
@BenFortune just buy an air compressor
 
6:47 PM
@Loktar Just realised I went from a 7870 to a 970, not 6850
 
@rlemon "work mode" for chat extension: prevents one-boxing, shows a link instead with the underlying URL
 
@ssube Got one actually, I'm just really lazy
 
ah damn, the 7870 wasn't too bad of a card, but yeah is getting old for sure
 
It was the XT, Tahiti
 
@Shmiddty did it with only css once
 
6:49 PM
seriously tho... fuck off steam. I'm not calling you at work
 
@Shmiddty I second this.
 
200psi through the fans will clean out a desktop real quick :P
 
all I wanna do is login to my profile and change something
 
@rlemon why arent you being emailed?
 
@Shmiddty i'll write it later
 
6:49 PM
I always get emailed my access code
 
@Loktar no clue :/
 
@Shmiddty I think @TravisJ has something like that
 
usually it works.
 
weird man, that sucks
 
for images at least
 
6:50 PM
@Loktar What case is that?
 
oh lawd amazon one box
 
I lol'd
 
Oh nice
 
so many cool fan panels
 
I haaave
 
6:51 PM
I have the carbide air 540, it's fucking huge
 
@BenFortune brah
brah
 
The airflow is amazing
 
I've got the 800D
that thing is absurd
 
It's tall, but this thing is wide as hell
 
@BenFortune thats a damn nice case
I was thinking of getting a wider one my next build
 
6:52 PM
I can't recommend it enough
 
god dang @ssube
 
HDDs/PSU in one compartment behind the mobo
rest in the front
 
the 800D is twice as wide as a HDD and like 3 feet tall
swear to god, my desktop weighs as much as my ladyfriend
 
haha
 
their photo is almost my setup, too. Have blue coolant lines.
 
6:53 PM
Anyone have the roccat kave? They make my head hurt :(
 
tried it now @Cereal it says 70wpm is 5 mistakes when not looking at keyboard
 
the hotswap is nice, though
 
88 when looking at keyboard occasionally
 
have 4x3TB drives in it, set up in a w8 storage space with redundancy of like 1.5 drives
 
yeesh
thats awesome @ssube
 
6:54 PM
Actually, I was gunna link my case but I found the comptuer itself.
Because I fried mine and needed one immediately
 
fuck Canada Computers
 
they delivered it the next day ._.
 
slimy bastards.
 
Yeah yeah
 
I have a server sitting in my basement with a dell perc 5i unused.. I should setup a raid on my home system
 
6:55 PM
@Loktar breaks Darksiders though :(
 
really whys that?
 
there are a few old games that make weird filesystem assumptions and break
 
no idea why
 
ah wow that sucks, Darksiders isn't even that old..
actually it is pretty old now I guess eh? 8 years maybe?
 
6:56 PM
DS loses all its audio. A few others just won't run.
apparently it's w8 and/or spaces
 
ok 5 years, good I;m not th at old yet.
@BenFortune haha wth
 
but, spaces with 4 drives and the dynamic rebalancing is really nice
our free space just slowly climbs while the machine is idle
 
I didn't know you could buy those, I thought they were all custom
thats really cool
@ssube yeah man that sounds like a kickass setup
definitely jelly.
 
have like 5.5 usable of 12, so it's essentially mirrored
 
They're so OTT
 
6:57 PM
you can do the same with a synology, tbh
hybrid raid is pretty similar between lvm and spaces and synology's thing
I was really pleasantly surprised that spaces worked at all, much less as well as they do. Setup wizard is great, comes with w8 pro, performance is good, rebuilds are easy and pretty quick.
 
I have this case sitting at home
I love it, but not using it for anything atm
 
There's a company in the UK that make great acrylic cases, they look really nice and are sturdy as hell.
 
@rlemon did you find a solution yet?
 

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