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5:02 PM
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has anyone ever heard of a database table being deleted when you do a windows self repair?
 
no
 
i was working on it, blue screen, "then no database tables for you"
 
but if windows restored the db 'file' to a previous state you'll see older information (presumably)
 
how do you recover from that?
it was a mysql database
 
5:11 PM
if you over wrote a file you wanted to keep you're boned afaik
but it doesn't sound like a restore
you just bsod'd and then rebooted?
 
windows did :(
 
okay so that isn't a recovery, unless you ran recovery.
that is just a crash
if you corrupted something I would think the entire DB would be toast, not just a missing table.
if you hadn't commited the query, or it wasn't finished running it might be lost.
 
i ran the recovery, and it deleted the database
 
did you run a restore to a previous state?
 
i can rebuild it, but thought it's postable
 
5:19 PM
where is your backup?
 
what is a backup?
 
5:36 PM
Hi all, I have a query. I want answer from experts.
 
> jQuery.PHP.Magento.com
seems legit :D
 
I was thinking of moving to Ruby On Rails as PHP devs are more and more day by day(Most of them are Cheap developers in terms of Code quality and Salary). So it is difficult for me to get well paid in herd of cheap devs. Should i move to RoR ? Or should I goto nodejs ?
 
chrome 43 people, see the change in the network tab? :D
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com If a job is all you're after, then it depends on what options you have available. If you see more RoR developers on your desired price tier, look into RoR. Same goes for node.
As far as technology goes, the only suggestion is that you try both and see which you like most.
 
@Zirak , Hi , you say learn NodeJS or ROR. But just learning something wont give me job. Comeon , I have no experience in node.js(i just know some concepts and still learning). What is my future then?
 
5:42 PM
People weren't born with node experience, they acquired it.
Through learning, experimentation, development, etc, as you learn any technology
 
+ businesses tend to want more than a website, they usually have legacy systems that need to talk to each other, and may also want something new on the back-end as well. If you're after money, Enterprise Application Integration is where it's at.
I work with a ton of them, and they are minted
 
bullshit. There is that yellow face in here who was born with all the JavaScript and node knowledge inbuilt.
 
@Zirak Hats off Sir , thats what I was expecting from someone. Thanks for boosting up my confidence!
 
uh, sure, any time. Good luck.
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com You are from India, right?
Oh I remember you now...
 
5:48 PM
:)
@AwalGarg , yup. And how do you know me ?
 
step 1) don't learn any of the three technologies in your name.
step 2) ???
step 3) profit!
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com You are Pratik Joshi who came into this room last time advocating PHP because of it's popularity and told me not to speak because of my low rep.
 
..awkward
 
Popcorn time
 
Jun 30 '14 at 16:11, by Pratik Joshi
@AwalGarg , hi u dont have good repo.U dont ask ,even answer question .Why are u lecturing me then also?
 
5:50 PM
@awal Sorry about that , I was little stressed that day as people disrespected php and I worked very well on it.
 
yeah sure :P
 
I wipe my ass with PHP
 
PHP disrespects PHP
 
@copy Sounds uncomfortable, have you considered porcupines instead?
 
@copy That was Really disrespectful. Flagged !!
 
5:52 PM
It wasn't, and you didn't, nor should you
Oh you did
 
he did
now I'm considering kicking
don't abuse flags
and PHP is shitty
 
@Zirak Too spiky
 
kicked for flag spam
 
@rlemon beat me to it
 
if we're being honest. most programming languages are shitty.
I don't know why people take offence to it.
we didn't call him shitty
 
5:55 PM
people are weird.
 
Except C, which is just... nvm.
 
And are offended by everything
 
like, if I went into the PHP room and said it, I'd expect to get some backlash (maybe)
 
@Loktar You take that back!
 
because then it is picking a fight.
 
5:55 PM
JavaScript sucks :D
 
it does.
 
Python doesn't suck though
 
but it is also so incredibly awesome at the same time
 
Yeah Python and ES6 are too good.
 
meh, I wouldn't say they don't suck. just much much less.
 
5:56 PM
I need to learn mooore Python, though.
 
@rlemon , Javascript is shittest language ever built. Have a look phonk.net/Gedachten/JavaScript
 
neat, you found a blog post on it.
should I flag you for holding an opinion?
 
@copy any recommended resource for filling gaps in my python knowledge?
 
From 2005
 
lol
 
5:57 PM
For me, that's no contest: JavaScript, for three big reasons:

lack of decent debugging capabilities (Firebug helps, but it's not enough),
the way it simply halts whenever there's an error, forcing the programmer to add alert("in functionX") just to make sure you made it to functionX, and
its infuriatingly obscure error messages.
 
a) that is wrong
b) that is also wrong
c) error messages are not good. no.
 
> lack of decent debugging...
oh god
 
1/3 points are valid.
 
@AwalGarg Not really, besides working on projects
You'll discover gems from time to time in the manual
 
@copy ok
I find the python manual harder to read then say.. mdn or php docs :/
 
5:59 PM
Like defaultdict
You could probably look for Python module of the week or so
 
@rlemon , see you are Abusing this group by threatening me by saying I will kick you and all. See buddy you dont deserve to be a moderator of a group as you dont know definition of respect. Stay in your fishpond and say I am the best fish in sea(you are in fish pond only). Frankly speaking Shittest/absolute False/Wrong moderation I ever saw here. Dont know who made you mod. of this room, shameful for stackoverflow!
 
how's the tag wiki??
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com your entitlement is boring me now
be a grown up or leave.
 
@copy neat, thanks
@copy wow, TIL
 
also, if you feel like spamming flags is acceptable, I recommend you learn how they work and why they don't work. also it is annoying and no one cares for it.
holding an opinion that PHP sucks is not flag worthy.
 
6:02 PM
@rlemon , yes sure , I dont want to be a part of shittest chat room with shittest mods. Shame on you. Thats why you have been here for 4 long years and still have only 10K rep. points. You think you are greatest but you are far away from it.
 
just add him to the ignore list guys..
 
okay. have fun.
if you don't like the room you don't have to be here.
actually I recommend you don't be here if you are just going to bitch about stuff.
 
@rlemon ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY?
 
:chokes back tears:
 
Half the entertainment of this room is watching mods argue with new people
or I guess new people argue with mods
 
6:04 PM
RO's
we are not mods
also, this chap seems to like to insult people due to their rep :P
cc @AwalGarg
:D
 
yeah, I am a poor SO netizen :(
XD
 
I must not have the rep because I avoid jQuery and PHP tags :D I bet that is it.
 
also, this chap seems to like to insult people due to their programming language , no matter how good logic they use.
 
did I insult you?
are you PHP?
 
9/10 logic
 
6:06 PM
Yes you did. I use it.
 
yaaaawwwwwn
 
lol
wow.
 
@copy Would recommend logic to a friend
 
will see you later , dont have time to talk to fishes in pond , sorry!
 
6:07 PM
logic sucks -- insulting every programmer/mathematician/scientist ever
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com Are you in a deep emotional relationship with php? If so, please stop; otherwise, it's just a language, it's a tool, and even though you're a gigantic shark in our little pond.
 
@rlemon , sorry I just have no time to waste here. I have good things to do
 
And you're of course the king majesty of the universe and everything you say is irrevocably true
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com then go do them and stop wasting our time please.
thanks.
 
@Zirak 947017 people like this
 
6:08 PM
that number seems low :(
 
@rlemon , you know something ? You are racist in terms of looking at programming languages as well :) Please stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
This is my favourite feature
@rlemon You're basically Zombie Communist Hitler
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com I'm sorry I'm not allowed to hold the position that PHP sucks. did you know I also think jQuery is quite bad? am I racist because I have a preference on subjective things? I'm the Language Lenin?
 
The L in RLemon actually stands for Lenin
 
6:10 PM
true story
 
!!> Array.fill
 
@AwalGarg "undefined"
 
I thought it stood for "lubricated"
 
!!> 'fill' in Array
 
@rlemon false
 
6:11 PM
:(
 
es7?
 
@rlemon Whatever, but learn to keep stupid openions to yourselves. Saying to me This is bad (though I use it daily in efficient way) make no sense to me. And it doesnt matter to me as well.
 
es6
firefox has it since 31.
 
!!s/pe//
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com I counter with: no
 
6:11 PM
@copy @rlemon Whatever, but learn to keep stupid onions to yourselves. Saying to me This is bad (though I use it daily in efficient way) make no sense to me. And it doesnt matter to me as well. (source)
 
@rlemon what version of FF are you running her on?
 
should be latest
I did an update on friday
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com By your logic, you're a language racist by saying javascript sucks, because tons of people use javascript daily quite effectively.
 
He's using tumblr logic
 
6:12 PM
isn't JS more popular than PHP today?
 
I've javascripted today, and still have the tonsils to prove it
 
@rlemon certainly more enjoyable
 
@GabrielLebec Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@Zirak , no problem I respect JS , but you should also respect PHP .
 
why should we respect PHP? PHP hasn't earned my respect.
 
6:12 PM
My PHP opinion is tainted because I've only worked on other people's projects after they left.
That said, I still have nightmares about it
 
wait...
!!> [].fill
 
@AwalGarg "function fill() {\n [native code]\n}"
 
god I am stupid as fuck
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum !
 
6:13 PM
!!> 'fill' in []
 
@Cereal true
 
Huh
 
it's on the prototype
I wasn't thinking
 
@rlemon , hey wait What do you know about php ? Nothing . So stop bitching and saying that stuff. First learn it dude and then express your opinion
 
I wrote PHP for ~5 years when I started programming
 
6:14 PM
@rlemon yeah
 
;)
 
Is there not an array generic for fill then?
 
stupid chrome doesn't have it without the harmony flag yet
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com How do you know his level of php knowledge?
 
bottom line is, I'm in the JS room talking about how I dislike PHP -- you're in here telling me I'm being disrespectful to you because i don't like PHP.
 
6:15 PM
Now you've just skewed your logic based on your personal feelings of someone; isn't that bad?
 
your logic is all messed up
 
Hmm, no I suppose that wouldn't make sense.
 
@Zirak , as I told I dont want to know , if you knew PHP so well , your stackoverflow badges would have proven it. Badges tell you know nothing. So sorry I dont want to know.
 
Unignoring the guy for some lulz
 
rep / badges only show you what I'm interested in answering
if I don't like PHP why would I pay attention to the tag
for that matter, rep only indicates I'm interested in grinding main :/ which I am not
 
6:18 PM
> if you knew PHP so well , your stackoverflow badges would have proven it. Badges tell you know nothing
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
No , low rep. on badges mean you dont know well. Thats the bottomline, period!
 
you have a strange view on things, but okay.
 
That doesn't make any sense
 
Ok well your world view is based on narrow classification of people based on a random website
 
I'll just leave this here.
 
6:19 PM
Sorry I can't help you, hope you have a happy and frivolous life
 
if there's 10 questiosn a day, and 10k users, only ~10 users are going to have high rep, right?
 
Apparently I know no lua at all :P
 
@AwalGarg lol, where is that from?
 
doesn't have tag... writes code in for a living... ohh fuck.
 
3 mins ago, by jQuery.PHP.Magento.com
@Zirak , as I told I dont want to know , if you knew PHP so well , your stackoverflow badges would have proven it. Badges tell you know nothing. So sorry I dont want to know.
 
6:20 PM
Why are we entertaining trolls?\
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum tl;dr I can't hold the opinion PHP sucks because I don't answer PHP questions on main.
 
@rlemon lol, what a noob.
 
just unignored him since everyone was talking to him, saw this, and cracked up :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum because it is entertaining :D
 
@rlemon oh, fair point.
 
6:21 PM
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com hey where in India do you live?
 
31 mins ago, by copy
Popcorn time
Called it
 
@rlemon learn jquery n00b I hax u
 
lol
jQuery.haxx0r('u')
 
Is there another way to define a Generator function besides using the * syntax?
 
I have a bronze badge in JavaScript :D
 
6:22 PM
Aww, now I wanna have fun why did you kick him?
 
@ApathyBear almost, why?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum he isn't kicked
 
@ApathyBear the whole point of a generator function is the syntax with yield, it's possible for a function to just return an iterable (an object with a .next method that returns an object with done and value properties).
 
he WAS kicked long ago for flagging everyone who said php sucked
in PHP, Jul 4 '11 at 14:19, by salathe
PHP sucks.
 
@jQuery.PHP.Magento.com can I ask you a PHP question please? AS long as you won't disrespect.
 
6:23 PM
which makes this even funnier -- that is their most starred message.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum should we start a new room with him? XD
 
Mainly because im getting a syntax error running it: SyntaxError: Unexpected token '*' @BenjaminGruenbaum @AwalGarg not sure why
 
@ApathyBear what browser?
 
@ApathyBear your environment sucks
 
@AwalGarg flagged - that is racist towards environments
 
6:25 PM
lol
 
this has been a very entertaining "argument" at least. :D
 
:(
You guys should stop being mean to my friend @jQuery.PHP.Magento.com
 
He is also my country-mate.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you should all stop being mean to me and respecting PHP :P by the same logical fallacy if disliking PHP is offensive to people who like it, liking it is offensive to people who do not.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum @AwalGarg I was actually testing within the Coda IDE preview, but now that I test in Chrome it works fine. Thanks.
 
6:29 PM
@rlemon By logical fellatio I should be given blowjobs all day long
 
Can we have some userscripts monthly challenge thingy? :(
 
@AwalGarg no but you can just keep writing userscripts for the chat and we can start a repo for them
then I can toss the project on the chrome webstore
 
^
 
with a big ol' disable/enable options page
@Loktar o/
lurker
 
@rlemon not enough fun :/
 
6:30 PM
o/
 
@Loktar @Loktar did you see my update?
rlemon, Ontario, Canada.
10.5k 5 46 83
 
@AwalGarg you've been in the room right? Monthly challenges do not work
@rlemon HAHHAHAHAH
 
I couldn't wait to matched the skin myself.
@AwalGarg how about this. we do a weekly challenge of the 'neatest' userscript for the chat. then we make a strawpoll and they vote.
 
@rlemon I am in
 
okay, we'll start next week.
no theme, just for fun
 
6:31 PM
YAY!
 
keep in mind they don't have to be useful, or entertaining. but they do have to be one of them :D
 
I will pick useful because... I dunno.
Math.random()
 
@AwalGarg Counterproposal: You write things every week
 
Counter counter proposal, just play agar.io every week
 
@Zirak I already do.
every day. almost.
 
6:35 PM
Counter counter counter proposal go to school ffs
 
I will burn down you and all the France.
 
counter counter counter proposal: not really a proposal, I just thought you all should know the pizza you got me gave me gas.
 
:D
 
@rlemon nice
 
Counter proposal, Sandstone.
@rlemon haha
 
6:36 PM
@rlemon mission accomplished
 
@Loktar honest opinion, considering the games you know I enjoy: is the Witcher 3 worth the $60?
looks like it has a LOT of content
 
user1596138
Workin secondary job on Memorial Day cause I haz no life
 
hard to say, Im playing it now actually
its a hard game
 
do you like it tho?
comparable to like, Tomb Raider or ??
 
too early to say lol I just started like 10 mins ago
 
6:37 PM
I watched two half hour gameplay vids last night and it llooked fun
 
I havent really played the other ones
yeah I dont want to say yay or nay to you on it
really unsure honestly
 
I liked farcry and tomb raider, and it looks along those lines
damn, well let me know in two hours before I leave work so I can start the remote download if I want it
:D
 
haha ok
 
user1596138
@rlemon GTA V?
 
beat the story mode
online was not very fun
might piss around with mods in a bit. but wanna get away from it first
 
user1596138
6:40 PM
@rlemon You're supposed to just do random shit
 
don't like playing the same game too long
 
user1596138
Fiiine I'll find someone else to play with
 
@Jhawins yea I did that for a bit.
you have it for PC?
 
user1596138
I've spent days of my life just fucking around on GTA
 
user1596138
@rlemon I could go buy it at best buy...
 
6:41 PM
because if I can get in an online with 3 people I know that would be better
randoms just bitch
 
user1596138
Oh shit memorial day..
 
I will go back and play it more, just not right now
need more time to make it 'fresh' again
 
user1596138
The only money I have right now is cash so I can't buy any games online... Kinda blows
 
I'll likely buy the witcher tonight
 
user1596138
Bleh
 
6:43 PM
@Jhawins they are still open
 
user1596138
Looks like a "play society's dislikes" POS
 
user1596138
@Loktar Dude I went to target for the first time yesterday cause it's across the street and I realized Target isn't a grocery store...
 
lol
they do have groceries in that one though
the super target has a ton
also gamestop is right there
across from target
 
user1596138
Yeah I bought my groceries anyway but it is not a food place lol
 
user1596138
Oh really gamestop is over there how did I miss it
 
6:45 PM
yeah Bakers is right next door, thats the grocery store, well the main one in that area
gamestop is in the little section that has that place called sinful burger
 
user1596138
Haven't been to Bakers yet
 
user1596138
Ohh ok. Hey have you been to sinful burger?
 
yea
its not bad
 
user1596138
Yay || nay?
 
they put cheese in the middle of the burgers and cook them
pretty good
 
6:46 PM
man, I wanna fly to Omaha so I can kick it for a weekend with L&J
 
user1596138
Hell yeah
 
Hey guys :)
 
@DUUUDE123 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
hey duuude
 
Does he abide?
 
user1596138
6:47 PM
@rlemon lol I was gonna invite @Loktar over but I'm not sure what we'd do I don't have a TV or a couch or anything. We could lay in my bed and get physical but that's about it
 
lol
 
user1596138
Strike-through == exempt
 
I'm a stingey bastard with my time anyway always have something I'm working on/doing
@Jhawins are you actually working working?
 
user1596138
Yeah I like to spend my time alone anyway. Much recluse
 
@Loktar bitch, you'll make time for the lemon.
..pls
 
user1596138
6:49 PM
Soon as I get a new motorcycle I'll be on it half of every day literally.
 
user1596138
@Loktar I'm working job #2, and working working.
 
ahh
@rlemon lol ofc
 
user1596138
I'm still on payroll from Indiana job for now. Got some loose end to tie up so I still qualify for that contract I had
 
user1596138
Honestly most of us wouldn't have anything to do if we hungout IRL lol
 
gamejam
or just game
 
user1596138
6:52 PM
Food, beer? Idk. Game in the same room I guess
 
or just jam
 
user1596138
DANCE PARTAY
 
user1596138
Hopefully I will visit @Shmiddty this winter during my ski trip which is much more likely to happen this year than before
 
user1596138
We need to have a official room meetup
 
@Jhawins how's the new job now that you settled?
@Jhawins what happened to drinking beers and talking?
I've had beers with lots of people in the room (well, 7) and it was always fun.
 
user1596138
6:58 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum It's great, really happy about things. I haven't had many jobs in the industry... But this seems to be an exceptionally good environment.
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum Well they don't let me drink beer..
 

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