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8:00 PM
@SomeKittens You quit because you got a good job, though, right?
It wasn't because you didn't want to put in the work, was it?
 
@SomeGuy Yeah, I also tried to pretend to study. No one said that after results :/
 
@AwalGarg Haha, they never do
 
And neither should we. They tried and failed, losers.
 
Weirdly enough, my best subject in school was spelling
 
I still haven't been answered; who's peter?
 
8:01 PM
@KendallFrey it's worse at me
 
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniconiosis
 
but yeah, i'm a person with impaired ears
 
@AwalGarg I disagree. It's a good thing they're trying to improve the system
 
@SomeGuy What I thought would be a good job. Didn't turn out to be.
 
@KendallFrey I used to spell "weird" as "wierd" because of that bullshit rhyme, "i before e except after c"
teachers lied to me
 
8:02 PM
!!youtube you cannot be that stupid
 
but yes, I was also impatient to get out into the real world
 
!!undo
sigh
 
@SomeGuy Just let me rant?
 
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I recruiter contacted me on careers.SO
 
!!youtube qi i before e
 
8:02 PM
(i can hear but i need two hearing aids )
 
@SomeKittens I assume it's not your current job? :P
 
watch that @Nick
 
@AwalGarg Haha go ahead
 
and weird and theirs and every other fucking exception
 
8:03 PM
@SomeGuy Hah, no. This is job #3
 
You're still at Runnable, right?
 
@Luggage pretty sure the rule refers to the ee sound
 
how can you manage to distinguish "their" and "they're" when speaking ?
it doesn't make a difference at me
 
by context
but sometimes I correct people's spelling when they talk anyway
 
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@BenjaminGruenbaum I start the 11th :P I'll be there by next weekend
 
8:04 PM
@Luggage sometimes*
 
@Luggage so many edits
 
hehe
 
@SomeGuy Yup, broke the "only working at one place for six months" curse
 
@SomeGuy On a more serious note. The "improvement" they were doing was to make the first very light and boring on students, and increasing the 3 year graduation to 4 years. The curriculum for the first year was as much crap as the previous system's one, and the rest 3 years were the 3 years from the previous system + more crappy curriculum.
 
8:05 PM
@SomeKittens Haha congrats! My sister's going through that right now
 
that makes me laugh so much
 
that's not so funny
 
@AwalGarg Haha that is stupid
 
all right, I'll delete it then :)
 
@SomeGuy Yeah, and just with the extra year, they squeezed in an extra subject choice to call a minor. Happy headdesking.
 
8:07 PM
@Pheonixblade9 and repost it in C#, I saw that
 
OP is a big fat phony
 
@KendallFrey OP VVV
 
@SomeKittens are you glad you did it?
 
52 more minutes...
 
I want to go home now pls
but I came in late
 
8:11 PM
coming late is preferable to coming early
 
why ?
it actually doesn't matter, just get your job done
 
@KarelG More satisfying
 
@SomeGuy Hah, thanks. Still a bit weird to think back how long I've been here relative to my other jobs
 
@SomeGuy especially to to those around you
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Moved out to SF?
 
8:12 PM
specifically the one youre in
 
@SomeKittens And left your education to do it
 
I'm fairly stoic about it - could be worse, there are plenty of good things out here
 
How can I 'import' a json file inside another json file?
 
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Hey really tho, isn't the point of SO careers to not get spammed by recruiters or something?
 
@Jovito That's not how JSON works. JSON just stores things, it doesn't do anything
 
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8:13 PM
How doeth thou report recruiter
 
alt+f4
 
So how should I go about extending a json object?
 
"JSON object" is not a thing
 
hmm
 
@Jhawins Mark it as not interested. The recruiter has a limited number of mails they can send out and "not interested" burns it.
 
8:15 PM
parse it, add to it, then json-ify it again
 
@SomeGuy not having a degree has had near-zero impact on my career
 
@NickDugger Got it. Thanks.
 
A couple weeks ago I got a message on careers
 
@SomeKittens Do you think that's just because of your physical location or is that just how the industry is in general?
 
> hiring for back-end and front-end candidates with some experience in either Python/Django or AngularJs.
 
8:16 PM
I know for a fact that I couldn't get away entirely unscathed without a degree in India (not initially, anyway)
 
Guess they didn't read my cv
 
@SomeGuy Industry in general, multiplied by location
 
@SomeGuy In the US, they care less and less all of the time. Even the mass ammounts of recruiters don;t even ask about education.
I have a job without a degree
It has been a non-issue
 
That's good to hear
I'm still getting my degree, but it's still nice :p
 
I don't have a degree, just 4 years in Army Signal Corps/Telecom
I got out in 2000; no problems getting a job in varying IT fields
 
8:21 PM
A degree isn't much of an indicator anyway. I'd say a single project from that person would tell you more than the degree would
 
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@NickDugger That interview was absolutely hilarious
 
@SomeGuy Yeah, it's different around the world.
 
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I updated top 10.10 and nopw my keybopard creates al;l; opf these typos opn it's opwn./
 
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This is l;iteral;l;y proper typing./
 
@Jhawins I only listened for a few moments.
 
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8:22 PM
Idk hopw I'm supposed top type l;ike this
 
user1596138
Rage quit
 
degrees can help you to achieve higher functions, like management
 
I have a different motive too, though. I think I might actually enjoy higher education
 
you're gross
 
got my minidrone in the mail
hard as hell to fly compared to the big one lol but fun
 
8:32 PM
I would enjoy higher education, but I'd rather enjoy spending $80,000
 
@SomeKittens would you do it again?
@SomeGuy you're also younger than us
 
Awww
 
only $20
 
That's like 1/2 a banana
 
8:33 PM
haha yea
 
@Loktar where from?
 
@SomeGuy A degree indicates how much cramming power you have.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum You think the industry's changing?
 
@SomeGuy what do you mean?
 
8:33 PM
hmm I must have got it from a diff seller, mine was prime
 
I'm only 22, and I think school is the devil
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I assume you brought my age up because things might be different by the time I actually try to get a job
 
mine says $24.99 with prime...
 
@SomeGuy no, just to make sure you understand you're not behind.
@NickDugger I only started school at your age for the record
 
@taco thats probably the right one then
 
8:34 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Oh, right. In India, I'm constantly reminded of how I'm not behind
 
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@SomeGuy I think I might too someday. I want to earn that money upfront though
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I do feel like I'd do a lot better in school now, but I had such a negative experience, I'd really rather not
 
it must have been $25 I guess
 
@SomeGuy you know, you can move.
 
My peers have trouble writing programs to see if a year is a leap year or not
 
8:35 PM
@SomeGuy Just don't copy/paste jquery snippets from SO, and you'll be fine
 
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@taco $19.90 with prime
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yeah, that's been a consideration for a long time. I think eventually, I will
 
@NickDugger I had my fair share of shitty experience in HS, I'm just saying that you're not too old to start.
 
lol
 
@NickDugger What if I need halp with jQuery?
 
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8:36 PM
@NickDugger for prom king
 
@SomeGuy jump off a cliff
 
@Jhawins What do you think you'd like to study?
 
You don't have to start, lots of smart people can do lots of amazing stuff without higher education, especially in today's tech industry. I just want you to know that if you want to you can get a degree @NickDugger
@SomeGuy well, if you ever want a job be sure to ping me :D
 
I kinda want to be a chemistry teacher when I'm old and grey, but not until then
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Haha, sure, I'm spamming all of you when I want a job :P
@NickDugger And then to make meth?
 
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8:37 PM
@SomeGuy Like mechanical engineering
 
@SomeGuy Hopefully it won't come to that, but I make no promises
 
@Loktar What are you doing with that? Just messing with it?
@Jhawins Ooh, that'd be interesting
 
user1596138
Or automotive
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Btw, have you looked at Kaggle?
 
user1596138
An engineering degree one way or another just not sure on the specifics ;P
 
8:38 PM
It seems really neat
 
I've got 1 hour delivery from Amazon Prime Now it seems
 
@SomeGuy and well they should. dates and times are fucking stupid
 
@SomeGuy looked? Yes, haven't used it though.
 
they don't have this drone, though, boo
 
They do a challenge I might participate in.
 
8:39 PM
@KendallFrey Haha that's true, but I was talking about them having trouble with the syntax for if and shit
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Depends on what you mean. If you set me up with the same parameters as before, then yes, I guess.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Which one?
Kaggle seems very useful for someone like me. I might start trying stuff out on it once I make a TWSS bot
 
@SomeGuy I'm not sure, there is a team here that is entering and I thought about joining.
 
The TWSS bot is the first thing I want to get out of my ML course :D
 
Though with the wisdom I've gained, I'd change a few things if you let me bring that back.
 
8:40 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Tell me if you do?
 
@SomeGuy sure
 
Oh, also, ##machinelearning is an interesting IRC channel when there's activity
(Freenode)
 
Usually not, it's usually pretty boring :P
 
Haha, we had an interesting talk about PCA today
If someone has a lot of irrelevant features (they shouldn't, but assume they do), without PCA, the model would mostly ignore those features
 
personal cat archdemons?
 
8:44 PM
But with PCA, since the data would intermingle with the useful data, it'd make the model significantly worse
@NickDugger Principal Component Analysis
 
I like my version better
 
I don't even want to say my version
still more kid-friendly than mine
 
@NickDugger Hahaha
@KendallFrey We need your version
 
@SomeGuy I rarely use PCA
 
@SomeGuy p***y c**t a**s
fuck my brain right
 
8:50 PM
It's nice, but it's a strong assumption about the left and right eighenvalues
 
@KendallFrey I thought it'd be worse
More visual :p
 
@SomeGuy yeah you cant program it unfortunately
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Not sure what you mean, but I haven't read up enough on eigenvalues
 
@SomeGuy how does PCA work?
 
I only understand the basic intuition behind it
Not the actual computation
 
8:53 PM
Oh, then it uses eigenvalues and eigenvectors sort of
 
Andrew Ng did mention eigenvalues, but the Math I've learned so far doesn't let me understand them :P
 
Usually, you do something called a single value decomposition.
 
does SO enjoy stretching profile pictures so much???
 
You should definitely do a linear algebra course if you want to understand even the most basic of ML
 
Yeah, it's on my list
 
8:54 PM
Read my presentation btw
 
@Pheonixblade9 One of my friends is looking for work in Seattle
 
People didn't like it here :(
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Which one?
 
how would I get him to contact you?
 
8:56 PM
let me know when you have it so I can delete it (I know it is persisted but I'd prefer to make it harder for the spammers)
 
@Pheonixblade9 you can delete it, also it's impossible for spammers
Room owners can see deleted messages.
 
> Algorithm-Based Checkpoint-Free Fault Tolerance for Parallel Matrix Computations on Volatile Resources
I don't think I've paid so much attention to understand a title before
 
@Pheonixblade9 have it
 
Maybe I can blame it on it being 2:30 AM
 
unless... a room owner is a spammer! DUN DUN DUNNNN
I'm an owner over at C# and that's where I spend most of my time, so maybe I'm just used to it
 
8:58 PM
@SomeGuy "Losing Power Without Losing Data While Doing Math"
 
anyone could find my email address by searching this name, so I'm not too worried about it being out there
 
@SomeGuy get to slide 3
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Haha yeah, easier now
 
@SomeKittens just ask them to send their resume over, no cover letter needed apart from the email itself.
I suppose I shouldn't assume it's a guy :P
 
5 mins ago, by SomeKittens
how would I get him to contact you?
I did say "him" earlier, so it'd be appropriate in this case
 
9:00 PM
oh, haha. I think my reading comprehension skills have gone down since I took the SATs and started stuffing my head full of computer shit
 
@SomeKittens USPS
 
Why does the protocol stack wrap the upper protocol in the lower one when sending?
 
> just to be sure
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Fascinating so far. I'll read the rest tomorrow, thanks! Got to sleep now
 
Thanks! Good night!
 
9:11 PM
Goodnight!
 
@SomeGuy he means that you should understand slide 3
 
Does anyone here that has used PhoneGap / Cordova know how to push the JS/CSS/HTML out to a file I can submit to iTunes?
I can't find out how to push it out, I finished my web application
 
@chronotrigga you have to compile and package and sign it as an app
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Well that went entirely over my head.
 
How do I compile it?
Is there a tutorial I can see to do this?
 
9:18 PM
@Shmiddty 2.9
 
What is the intended purpose of that fault-tolerance scheme?
How many applications keep that much data in-memory?
Is it intended for something like memcache?
 
@taco get into mongo shell, create the database? or did I miss something?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you had me until slide 74 :P
 
@AwalGarg that part isn't explained
@Shmiddty multiplying matrices fault-tolerantly on supercomputers
@Shmiddty imagine multiplying a million by million matrix over 100000 computers with 1600000 cores.
 
Anyone upgraded to jessie? What's good? Performance?
 
9:31 PM
packages versions are now 5 years old
 
lol
@FlorianMargaine any improvement in performance/boot time?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum So distributed computing for... complex/time-consuming calculations?
With fault tolerance to prevent lost work?
 
@Shmiddty yes, for complex/time-consuming calculations
Mathy
 
Maths. I know that stuff. Up to AP Calculus B
 
9:41 PM
Ahoy hoy
 
Never did learned none of that fancy college maths
 
@Shmiddty Really? It's integral to professional success
 
@monners THE FUTURE
 
@SomeKittens The Chinese won, btw.
 
@monners Welp, there goes my World Cup predictions.
 
9:46 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum you might be interested in that ^
 
@SomeKittens They might still be good, the new Emperor has decreed that all Chinese teams have names that directly translate to pre-conquer western team names
With the exception of the Giants; they're now known as the Jolly Greens... Not sure how that happened
 
@monners I did some integration and (what's the opposite of integration called again?)
derivation?
Keychain epitaph
jk, just a bottle opener
 
I'm calling a method from a view with AJAX that is returning a different view, however, the page is not changing to the other view. Is this not possible to pass a value from an ajax call into a controller method and then return the view of a different page (essentially loading a different page)?
 

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