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9:00 PM
gravity? pfft. laws of energy? bah!
 
was just saying a dry reaction, implying that other people can do that
 
poppycock i say
 
If I have to get a degree, it would probably be in fuck physics (or csci)
 
@towc Infinity is an integer?
 
imagine figuring out all the details physics to accurately reproduce, in real life, pon da floor
 
9:01 PM
MAN KENDALL AND TOWC ... please, go visit a mathematical professor, we are dipshits here
 
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang: minimum price for Calculus 4th edition by Michael Spivak (first thing on google by searching spivak calculus) on amazon is $68
 
@towc the dragon book is still over $100, I think
 
@KendallFrey depends on how many bananas does zirak eat
 
@towc had you wanted to obtain a copy illegally - you'd google for a pdf, but don't do that since it's not legal.
 
XD
 
9:02 PM
;)
nudge
 
@argentum47 ^ (what @BenjaminGruenbaum said)
 
@darkyen00 why are all the responses empty?
 
responses to ?
well you aren't registered yet :P
 
http://batuapay.azurewebsites.net/users/fake
 
9:06 PM
oh that x)
cause its just serializing it in queue
i must update that :3
 
Oh cool azurewebsites
 
Also, of all the web platforms in the world, you had to chose azure for this?
 
@AwalGarg i love it :P its fast and furious
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum ping
 
plus i got push notifications for free.
 
9:07 PM
I built code that converts an offline slide show to an azure website with revealjs and an admin panel running express for synchronization this week.
 
got a promises question for you - is there any way to immediately end a chain?
 
well, it's quite late here, good night!
 
@SomeKittens pong
@SomeKittens what do you mean?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum :-) azure is good but fucked uop
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum nerd
 
9:08 PM
@phenomnomnominal wanna see what the output looks like?
 
please!
 
@SomeKittens reject
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum me does!
 
We've got a fetchUser promise that - guess what - fetches the user! If that returns 401, we want to cancel everything else and just redirect
 
9:08 PM
@rlemon I think you got it if it's partially working once you sort out the flow control
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum i would likely to see the result
 
This is completely generated from a pdf slideshow - it has an editor (where I added the links) in a grid (imagine windows phone tiles)
 
but .catch means later .then will still run?
 
@SomeKittens what would you do in sync code? Catch and rethrow.
 
@darkyen00 I gotta go now. Hit me up with any updates ;)
 
9:09 PM
.catch(function(el){
    // cancel stuff and do more stuff
    throw e; // rethrow
})
 
sure.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Valid - I thought I read somewhere in Petka's stuff that that wasn't the right way.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum cool, so just dumping the pdf to images and pumping them into reveal, nice!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I love the part azure integrates everything together
but hate the price :P
give me some tips on how to steal a long term free subscriptio
 
@phenomnomnominal yeah, and it's completely automated - I'd link you to the generator but it's not password protected and I don't want the link here - if you send me a message on FB you can try it out :)
@darkyen00 bizspark
@phenomnomnominal yeah, also an editor and stuff
 
9:10 PM
yeah tips on how to give me some free stuff
 
@SomeKittens unlikely but sure.
 
like you know "how to impress microsoft people"
 
@darkyen00 make cool stuff
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you think project wallet is cool enough ?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum and it just uploads it to azure somewhere?
 
9:12 PM
Does anyone have an idea why changing my ip /etc/network/interfaces doesn't actually change the ip?
 
@phenomnomnominal It creates a new website, with its own subdomain
 
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
        address 192.168.1.100
        netmask 255.255.255.0
        network 192.168.1.0
        broadcast 192.168.1.255
        gateway 192.168.1.1
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum boom, that's cool as fuck
 
Yeah, and it's only like 300-400 LoC
 
github?
 
9:13 PM
Not yet, soon :)
The "killer feature" is that you can open the /manage.html page as a clicker with your phone and have a clicker, and you have student mode that students stay in sync with the teacher on their own laptops
Also - admin is pretty nice - just check it out :)
Right now it pushes to my azure account - in the future it'll accept a .pem file and a subscription ID and push to your own Azure, I wanna teach it to work with Amazon and GAE too
Maybe Heroku, after all it's just generating a website with an express server :)
It's all babeljs too :)
 
Nice, I'm pushing a random pdf to it so it might break :P
 
By all means if it breaks I wanna know - it'll take it some time since it's not a really powerful VM but it should convert and deploy just fine - send me a link when you're done
Don't pick a too-hard password
When you go to /admin.html double-click a slide to edit it (as markdown), move things around and save to sync to server :)
 
fuck, I forgot my password.
I think I just did "hello". We will see :P
 
It's hashed so I can't recreate it for you :P Can just make another site
 
@StevensHaen did you restart the network service for it?
or reload it
 
9:19 PM
@StevensHaen you have to shutdown and open it
 
yeah, a reboot would work too
 
@taco I did restart it
Should I restart the PC?
 
!!tell SomeGuy define formication
 
@SomeGuy formication An abnormal skin sensation similar to that of insects crawling over or within the skin; a tactile hallucination involving such a sensation. A common side-effect of substance abuse, it can also be experienced with high fever, menopause, skin cancer, diabetic neuropathy, or herpes zoster.
 
would be amazing to use reboots
 
9:21 PM
(In related news, TIL formica = ant)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum website with name "nomnom" already taken?
 
I would run ifconfig -a @StevensHaen
 
(and formicate)
 
@phenomnomnominal someone already did nomnom.azurewebsites.net I guess
 
Oh no shit, it's all azure
 
9:22 PM
Yeah lol
 
@StevensHaen with ifdown and ifup ?
 
It's creating an actual website
 
Would be nice if you could change the name and not have to re upload :P
 
Yeah, although uploading the second time is faster
 
@taco ifconfig -a still results in 127.0.0.1
 
9:23 PM
for eth0?
 
Come to think of it - there's no reason for it not to happen in parallel - I just don't have the logic for deleting a website there and I need it
 
made nomnomnomnom but then it 503d
empty site sitting there now
 
@taco inet addr. This one should be eth0
 
@taco not sure, but should the line auto eth0 not being removed ? (see the :22034024)
 
@StevensHaen eth0 should never be on 127.0.0.1, that should be lo
 
9:25 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum What's more likely is I mis-read/remembered
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum all the errors
 
Sorry for the delay in replying, I fell down some stairs and have been a bit pre-occupied! I hadn't noticed this. You are absolutely correct. Thank you very much. — Nick Nov 22 '14 at 9:12
 
@phenomnomnominal ?
 
@ssube it's not in interfaces. On ifconfig -a inet addr shows up as localhost
 
@ssube My degree is in radians
 
9:26 PM
@StevensHaen what does mii-tool show? What OS is this?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Bails out and says cannot be processed or something?
But then refreshes so I lose the error
 
@ssube Ubuntu 14.04.02 on Win 7. Samba installed. What I'm trying to do is map the disk image and be able to access the files when deploying.
 
@phenomnomnominal oh, hmm - maybe a problematic pdf
How big is it?
It's possible I'm simply above quota :D
 
673kb
It's portrait, not landscape if that makes a difference :P
 
shouldn't
 
9:29 PM
@taco mii-tool results in SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed. Operation not permitted
 
I forgot ethtool replaced mii-tool
Anybody else use Robinhood for stock trading?
 
@taco ethtool and then after it ?
 
Looks like it error'd again - what error @phenomnomnominal ?
 
ethtool eth0
i think
 
@taco It doesn't show the ip
 
9:31 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum cannot be processed again
 
@phenomnomnominal lemme turn on loggig before you try again :)
 
Just bunch of other info
 
okay, sometimes eth0 doesn't exist
 
Current error message 0x000000007
 
@phenomnomnominal try now
 
9:33 PM
dat error
 
I would just try restarting. I would think it should've worked @StevensHaen
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum worked that time!
 
@taco restarting PC or VM?
 
VM
 
@taco Already did
 
9:34 PM
@phenomnomnominal :D link?
 
Hmm, with VM's you have to deal with bridging and all that too
 
remember the port is on the VM, virtually set up. not the PC
 
@KarelG I understand this perfectly. It's not working and what am I left with?
 
Play with it, also play with the clicker at /manage.html
 
9:35 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum niiiiice
drag is goood
 
@StevensHaen why don't you just set it to DHCP? Doesn't your LAN do DHCP?
 
@phenomnomnominal buggy :X
 
@taco It's set to DHCP in settings.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum no way to remove the gaps once you've removed them?
 
there is an auto eth0 on the first line of the ifconfig file... i said that i'm not sure but should it not be removed ?
 
9:36 PM
@Mosho complain to @BenjaminGruenbaum not me :P
 
cus it wusses to lo if not getting ip
 
@phenomnomnominal there is a button for that at the bottom - but it's slow and implemented naively - if you save and refresh it'll go away faster :)
 
@KarelG isn't it the interfaces file?
 
@Mosho it's not meant for vertical slides - it's meant for horizontal ones
 
@StevensHaen if it was set to DHCP, it'd look something like this: ## To configure a dynamic IP address
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
 
9:37 PM
I should let users input css probably
 
Ahh. What is teacher mode?
 
@phenomnomnominal well, student mode (just the site url) does not let you navigate unless you exit sync - teacher mode dictates sync, so all students are synchronized to the teacher
You can also synchronize with the clicker (at /manage.html)
It's a bit buggy but it's a day's work
 
It's very cool
 
@taco it has iface inet static instead, the rest is the same
 
@StevensHaen I would follow that Ubuntu document. For DHCP, you'd only need 2 lines (the ones above)
 
What promise library is the best for Node?
 
@taco Changed static to dhcp, restarted and I get the same thing
 
@SomeKittens @Mosho that's the one I told you about
The speaker is a friend
 
Is he the girl with the horse head that @Zirak follows around?
 
9:45 PM
@StevensHaen you need to request an IP. It tells you how to do that in that help document. I'm busy now, sorry
 
the shirt bit was priceless :)
 
Guys, looking for a good (ideally open) RSS feed reader for chrome
 
assigning static ip shouldn't be hard
 
Any ideas?
 
@SecondRikudo also to you (the ng-wat thing)
 
9:46 PM
i thought that it was bender's purpose
 
lol
that's a good one
 
dang, i thought that unicorns existed by a combination of narwhals and horses.
 
@taco I'll follow the docs
 
lol my favorite
 
Gonna sleep now - good night everyone
!!afk sleep
 
9:48 PM
night Benji
 
@StevensHaen you just need to request DHCP. It's in those docs. Past that I'd say your Ethernet adapter isn't seeing your local LAN
 
does anyone have a github example of a nodejs app using promises?
 
People don't put their apps on GH if it's personal apps - I use promises in my apps
Here is some code using bluebird promises and babelJS that uploads a site through FTP:
async _uploadSite(ftpPP, password, images, update){
		var ftp = new Ftp();
	    ftp.connect({
	        host: url.parse(ftpPP.publishUrl).host,
	        user: ftpPP.userName,
	        password: ftpPP.userPassword,
	    });
	    await ftp.ready();
	    update("FTP Connection Established");
	    await ftp.mkdirAsync("/site/wwwroot/www");
	    var hash = crypto.createHash('sha1').update(password).digest('hex');
	    var config = '{"password": "'+hash+'"}';
	    let b = new Buffer(config);
	    await ftp.putAsync(b,"/site/wwwroot/config.json");
!!afk sleep
Also it's really ugly and not indented or linted properly :D
 
@taco followed the tut, restarted, got the message "waiting for up to 60 seconds more for network config" and then - eth0 has no inet addr at all. Has RX packets: 0 errors: 0 .
 
10:01 PM
!!afk sleep for real
 
* pokes benjamin with a stick *
@StevensHaen what's the content of your interfaces file ?
 
@KarelG Ok, so it says that Cannot find device eth0
 
does it display eth0 when using ifconfig -a ?
 
@SecondRikudo The html chat room people are real pr*cks right now
 
@KarelG yes, but it has some funny things on it, it doesn't display inet addr
 
10:15 PM
c/p the output to here ?
don't forget to use ctrl + k before pressing enter
 
@KarelG how do I copy from Linux terminal
 
uhm, highlight, rightclick ?
 
if you're using tmux, it has its own clipboard that you can use :D
 
you typod eth0
 
10:23 PM
submitting apps to app store sucks :(
 
@taco I did what?
 
It's eth0 ... not eht0
 
@StevensHaen eht0 !== eth0
 
eh, you could spare these sudo's by starting with su command in the terminal
and what taco said
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum he reminds me of the Israeli tour guide from The Simpsons
 
10:24 PM
using su makes you as a superuser, which means you don't have to use sudo's
 
I just login as root #livinontheedge
 
@SterlingArcher I wrote a podcast app with a youtube rss feed once for my friend and they rejected it -- it was "of limited use"
 
what do you think about my examples for creating classes in JavaScript github.com/GrosSacASac/JavaScript-Set-Up/tree/master/js/… ?
 
that's lame
I keep getting stupid bundle ID validation errors
I think I got it this time
 
@KendallFrey :p
 
10:26 PM
@taco fixed the typo, now when sudo dhlclient eth0 nothing happens
 
@StevensHaen something has to happen
 
eth0 doesn't look like it has a link
 
@taco eth0 is not found for some reasonb
 
either it exits right away, or it starts but displays no output
 
oh well, shit maybe it should look like that, i forget
 
10:27 PM
@KendallFrey I just get to type freely in the terminal, prefix is gone, like the root@root:~$
 
@WalleCyril don't dare to say "create classes" with js !
 
I'm used to it saying UP BROADCAST MULTICAST RUNNING. I forget the state for no DHCP
 
@StevensHaen is it waiting for input? or just not outputting anything?
 
@WalleCyril cool
 
I guess you can't tell the difference
 
10:28 PM
@KendallFrey neither,
 
can you screenshot ethtool output? @StevensHaen
 
sorry I wanted to say multiple custom object
 
@StevensHaen what? what then? I thought it would be one of those two
 
@taco sure
 
well, gotcha hand this case over to taco, since i'm going to leave.
 
10:30 PM
I just get to type on a new line without the prefix
 
Nah, im working
that's not a very helpful screenshot
 
@StevensHaen basically that means you're in the process, not bash
the question is, what is the process doing?
 
dhclient takes x seconds before it times out
but I asked for a screenshot of ethtool
 
@taco It timed out already
 
@WalleCyril when would you use the javascript let keyword? I've never used it before
 
10:33 PM
@taco it is a new keyword defined in es6, it replaces var, and is block scoped
 
Ah
 
in most cases you can read it as var
 
@StevensHaen duplex speeds look ok & you have a link. I'd look at iptables or VM config
@WalleCyril is var being deprecated or will it be used for global scope still
 
XD Angular: Heroic MVW Framework. Model View WAT
 
10:37 PM
@taco VM is attached to a bridged adapter and everythin looks fine
 
I'd imagine we'd still need var
@StevensHaen check iptables:
iptables -L -n
that's what I use on RHEL, might be different for ubuntu
 
You actually really don't need var, as far as I can tell, let is pretty much just a better var.
 
var will stay for compatibly reason, but it will be useless, because functions are also blocks
 
let reads better than var
 
It functions better than var, is the main point, though.
 
10:40 PM
 
That looks ok, you don't have any iptables rules
 
@taco What could possibly be wrong then?
 
You have a link and set eth0 for DHCP, no firewall. At this point, it's too complicated for me to offer much advice. It'd probably only confuse you.
You can look into tcpdump to see if traffic is coming back
when you run dhclient
you'd need two terminal windows
 
I don't know how to duplicate my terminal in Ubuntu
 
I'm pretty sure you're missing something in your VM config. I've never had to mess with the network setup.
 
10:44 PM
@StevensHaen CTRL+SHIFT+T usually.
 
@StevensHaen Ctrl+Alt+(1 to 6) IIRC
 
Or if you're using a complete CLI version ^
 
you have 6 terminals available
 
I would just spin up a second VM and see how you fare, might be easier
 
10:46 PM
VMWare, VirtualBox, Parallels... I've never had these problems
It would be that attached to thing
try Internal Network or something like that. I just use NAT for mine
Do you guys use Sinon.js? I wish PHP had something like this
 
what is Sinon.js ?
 
@taco We use it, it's neat
@WalleCyril A way to create fake functions that tell you if they were called
(Known in the general parlance as stubs)
 
@taco switched to NAT, restarted and I'm getting the same thing
 
Yeah it helps you stub out your code. I like it because my unit tests don't need to touch the database or resources
@StevensHaen sorry man, I'm a Redhat Linux guy. AFAIK we've looked at everything.
Looking at my RHEL virtual box, it's using NAT and is set to DHCP
 
@taco Let me try those other settings.
Are you positive I don't have to restart the PC, just the VM?
 
10:59 PM
Does anyone have some ideas on how a neural network understands rotations? I kinda understand scalability.
 
@WalleCyril here's a succinct overview bulkan-evcimen.com/testing_with_mocha_sinon
for Sinon
 
a network that works on a NxM area would also work on a smaller or larger area. However, I don't understand rotations.
 
11:39 PM
@taco Installed a new VM with a new .vdi disk. I added eth0 to the interfaces file, but at ifconfig all it shows is eth1. And it has a weird ip on top of that - 10.0.2.15 - I guess it's not static.
I cannot even ping it
 
11:57 PM
Yeah, that sounds like the default NAT config. You should be able to SSH to it once your SSH port is open
 

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