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11:00 PM
@ShotgunNinja That sucks
I've got 2 more days to get my credit back or I'll have to reorder 70% of the stuff I bought
 
so ... I have a question, Thrustmaster HOTAS X or MadCatz F.L.Y. 5?
 
both
 
@tereško I would say the Thrustmaster
my son and a few friends have it
Having a seperated thrust helps
2
 
what worries me about Thrustmaster's option is that my hands are more on the small side of spectrum
 
eh my son uses it just fine, he is 12
one sec let me get it out, my hands aren't large either
3
 
11:07 PM
have you played anything with it?
 
uuuuh now is the weird time
 
I haven't personally, just my son. I have an x52 pro
 
@Zirak I'm starting to grok perl.... and I like it
 
Do I need to do anything special on the express.js side to get angular sub routes to work?
 
What they don't show in the pics alot is the thrustmaster also splits @tereško
 
11:08 PM
For example, /welcome shows up properly, but /welcome/login gives 404.
 
but yeah I just grabbed it real quick, my fingers didn't have a hard time hitting any of the buttons
 
@Loktar yeah, that one has too many shining lights
 
I would think it has more buttons than the MadCatz one as well
 
too much phrasing right now Loktar
 
@Loktar ahhh context.
 
11:09 PM
@tereško in the Elite Dangerous community it was pretty much the X52 as the best, and then the thrustmaster
if that means anything to you (meaning the mad catz one never really was in the picture not trying to push the x52 on you)
@phenomnomnominal @KendallFrey lol I know
It's always hard talking about sticks :p
 
joy ones at that
 
are those wheels on X52 actually useful? Or the HUD
 
the hud is utterly pointless
mine stopped working after a month (just the hud portion)
but I didn't care since all it did was show the time lol
 
lol
 
the wheels are cool, but they also click down
I think I had one mapped to my landing gear iirc
I had all of the buttons mapped just can't remember how lol
My son and friends used modifiers for the thrustmaster so like holding down button 1 and then hitting button 4-8 did something different than just pushing 4-8
just as an example
 
11:13 PM
I could almost remember my joystick mappings for FSX
 
How can you talk about your son like that
 
Crazy that I could remember most of my RCT keybindings after like 10 years
 
crl
pocaHotas
 
only posting that because it shows all the buttons and the thrustmaster split, i don't think their product page is good enough personally
Mad Catz makes good products too, haha just can't speak to that one at all since I don't own it :p
@KendallFrey FSX?
ooh flight simulator x?
 
11:15 PM
yeah
 
I have been thinking on buying a joystick soon (I have the damned X3 in library and probably will buy Elite on winter sale)
 
was a fantastic game back in the day
 
damn @tereško it is even cheaper than the madcatz.. idk man I would go with the thrustmaster
 
I have been leaning towards that option too
 
graphics look shite today, but quite nice flying
 
11:16 PM
$40 vs $60, and it is setup more like a true HOTAS
well I guess it is a true HOTAS lol
also the X series is badass!
I loved Albion Prelude.. you can get lost in those games, practically live in them so much to do.
 
well, after finishing reading Lost Fleet, I got this urge of playing some space sim .. SOON
 
@tereško What kind of sim? KSP? Orbiter?
 
I have X3: Terran Conflict and Albion Prelude
@KendallFrey space flight sim
 
Those both are
 
Watching the news? The police are moving in on the shooters
Helicopter feed
 
11:23 PM
oh .. there is another mass shooting
it's probably because they were playing too much CoD
 
Probably
!!popcorn
 
@Luggage no. I don't want to encourage media's orgy of profiteering over human tragedy, so I don't watch the news
 
crl
*ocd
 
crl
ok I gotta learn how to serve a react thing, not just play client-side
 
11:25 PM
But... The bad guys are getting what's coming to them...
 
.. publicity
 
Their crime was public
 
@Luggage the media is giving the murderers exactly what they want with all of this attention
 
Their identities will come out later
They get nothing right now other than arrested and/or dead
 
I wonder if star citizen made any substantial progress
that would make it worth playing for real
 
11:27 PM
Star citizen is a myth
 
pipe dream at worst
but $80m could be enough to make it come true
 
crl
If you guys need a wysiwyg some day, I'd recommend github.com/Voog/wysihtml ex
 
Yea, but big ideas + money is no guarantee.
 
but it's no myth either
 
I don't want to encourage WYSIWYG. :)
Yea, and I hope star citizen pans out.
 
11:30 PM
Imagine if news media was not for profit.
 
crl
@Luggage why?
 
@Luggage well, there is still Elite ... and that VR project from EVE: evevalkyrie.com
 
crl
it's just that I was disappointed by all other alternatives
 
That was a joke about the earlier 'encouraging media' thing.
 
are sites like this really good marketing and not just eye candy
I find it impressive, but it's pretty annoying
 
11:32 PM
Hm, I'll have to look at that eve thing when I am not on mobile
 
eve is awesome
but only if you give it a lot of time
I assume you're talking about eve online
 
Yup. I don't play it any more but its one of the mmos that still has consequences to dying. I like that
 
yeah, bitter, heavy consequences
 
You are. Teresko was talking about a new related game
 
yeahI just saw
interesting
but pre-alpha
 
crl
11:36 PM
@Mosho I'm trying to make a better version :)
 
I mean their landing page
 
crl
yea, totally marketing, good or not, idk
 
Appearances always matter.
 
crl
they use some parallax, but I'm not too sensible to that :)
 
maybe, but I'm saying their specific one
is kinda annoying
 
11:39 PM
Like all marketing, it has a particular audience
 
Looks OK on mobile but I have no I'd a what they are selling
 
crl
talking about crappy sites, does this one work for you?benzema.com kinda never loading (cough flash)
 
No flash
 
never loads
 
crl
hehe, it reflects the state of Benzema (a player in a shitty affair recently)
 
11:43 PM
due to the answer I got to my question (stackoverflow.com/questions/34054363/…), I think I misunderstood when Observables start emitting events. Do they start on creation, or upon subscription?
 
I'm pretty much sold on Atom, moving from ST
 
crl
(a blackmail/ransom affair from some people related with him concerning a teammate)
oh really?, gotta re-try it, 2nd times I say that
 
Great, so now I get a Error: [$location:nobase] even though I quite clearly put <base href=""> in the head of one of the starting pages.
 
I got ternjs to work well on atom
never managed to get that far with ST
 
<base href="/">
 
11:44 PM
@Luggage woa! tactical bobcat!
never seen one of those
 
Forklift
 
@phenomnomnominal yeah, that's what I did, I just failed at copying it here.
 
@rlemon this is unrelated to the shooting. A black guy was speeding.
 
crl
the only thing jsfiddle has it better than jsbin is server speed
 
    const options = Symbol();

    class Model {
        constructor (options = {}) {
            this[options] = options;
        }

        get isSaved () {
            return !!this[options].isSaved;
        }
    }
Who can tell me why I'm being stupid here?
this[options] is undefined inside the getter.
 
11:55 PM
where is options defined in the getter?
the constructor argument won't carry over afaik
 
the const is at the top of the file
 
ohh
nvm
 
oh fuck
I'm so dumb
it should be _options
 
crl
you're overriding it?
 
in the constructor
 
11:56 PM
but it is a const
doesn't it bitch about the change?
 
crl
the ref doesn't change
 
nah, because the function parameter is a different variable
 
crl
Symbol is an object?
!!> typeof Symbol
 
Symbol is a Symbol
 
@crl "ReferenceError: Symbol is not defined"
 
11:58 PM
@rlemon it's about shadowing there
@Zirak perl is mind-blowing
 
@FlorianMargaine I'll shadow you!
 
the code ends up nice though
 
I'm not in an appropriate frame of mind for writing code.
 
crl
@FlorianMargaine you should talk with @tchrist
 
But it does show why tests are awesome
 
crl
11:59 PM
(hanging in the ELU chat, a great guy)
 
@phenomnomnominal or compilers
 
@FlorianMargaine or your face.
 
yes, my face is awesome.
 

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