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7:00 PM
@rlemon again, does haskell even have a usecase for which JS/C# isn't better?
 
@rlemon That's a good list
 
also, Python is kinda pointless at this point
 
@towc these are all languages (imo) which will teach me how to be a better programmer inherently just by using them
 
but agree on lisp and rebol
 
because they are good languages
Python is still very much not pointless.
 
7:01 PM
well, imo that kinda comes with experience. Experience will come in any way, what I need now is knowledge
 
no
trust me
I can write JS for the next 10 years and not get any better than the language allows
 
Python is actually well-designed, as opposed to PHP and JavaScript
And Haskell is being used in the industry
 
c# is a nice language, but you may as well group it with Java as far as what you will learn from it
 
/me loves python
/me hates PEP8
/me hates python modules
/me still loves python3 :D
 
I wish I could be arsed learning another language
C# and Python are on that list though
 
7:02 PM
which is why I was going to learn nasm and a classic server-side language like perl/lisp
in any case, I'll add all of those to my list
 
lol, learn CGI then :P
 
yea
 
Ron
@crl add z-index:4; to .element.
 
Perl isn't really useful today
lisp is no more a 'classic server language' than python :/ aside from being older than is
 
tbf python just kinda makes me sad
sure, it introduces people to programming
 
7:04 PM
why does it make you sad?
 
but I feel like it also just keeps them stuck into python, kinda like jQuery
 
it's a much better designed language over js
 
crl
@Ron yea thanks z-index was the issue, but I need the overlay over element (hence the name)
 
I mean, I don't have enough experience to argue against you over language design
so I'm just going to assume you're right
 
I don't know what great languages look like, I just know enough to say the languages I use are not that great
 
7:06 PM
or you could explain the reasons ;)
 
crl
python is awesum, seriosuly, next language I'd pick if I couldn't JS
 
I'd trust someone who studied languages in uni.
 
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/11/26/search-engines/
CommitStrip
Search engines
CommitStrip
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Ron
@crl add display:inline-block; to #innerelement
 
I really need to get my priorities right
 
7:06 PM
@towc but honestly, think about it, why not learn the languages that will benefit you overall and not the ones that have singular use cases.
language agnostics carry over a lot of times
so learning things in Python or Haskell may help you later on in Lisp or Rebol (for example)
 
imgur.com/gallery/dNbQHwp ... this actually sounds really really true
 
I'm trying to read a shitton of books, watch a shitton of talks, learn a shitton of other stuff, keep up with school AND getting a social life..
is this how highschool felt for everyone XD
 
One reason why I specially like Python over JS is that it is "batteries included". The standard lib is pretty awesome to do actual stuff and I don't have to depend on some random libs. JS, OTOH, is entirely dependant on the host, and hosts always suck.
 
(yes, I was wasting my time browsing random shit on imgur)
 
@rlemon fair enough
 
7:08 PM
@tereško enjoyment isn't waste :D
 
crl
@Ron hm, nor working for me, (anyway I 'll need somthing generic, it can be any number of children .element)
 
@tereško also,
 
lol
 
so, I'm ordering some things via amazon. What other books/anything should I order now not to face additional delivery charges later?
 
is polymer being used commercially anywhere?
 
7:09 PM
@towc for education or fun?
 
mainly education I guess
 
!!google seven languages in seven weeks
 
but I'd really rather not have a boring manual in my collection
 
7:10 PM
I have read this one ^ @towc. It will give you a wider knowledge of programming languages.
 
well, that's also a shitton of money :P
I'm looking for good books for less than 10£
 
that's not ta book
 
@rlemon lifechanging
 
crl
7:12 PM
I'm becoming mad, why isn't the inneroverlay hoverable jsfiddle.net/crl/tfezz6ra/17
 
@towc can you get a steam gift cards on amazon?
 
I mean, I found "hacking: the art of exploitation" for $2, and a guide to assembly for $1...
 
I don't think a steam gift card counts as a book
 
@tereško well, I don't pay money on games :P
 
the hacking book is awesome
 
7:14 PM
anyway, I'm looking for books that can be found for prices like that
 
@towc well. I pay more for the service. Also, paying $4 for a gam that I play for 100h does not seem like all that much
 
so, @rlemon, hop on pop sounds awesome but it's $5.80, cmon!
@tereško I run linux now, the only client game I play is solitaire ;)
and tbf I'm not that much into games
 
Steam runs on linux
 
right
 
7:15 PM
my point is the same: not going to spend money on games like those
 
The 7 languages thing is on amazon for $21. dunno how many pounds/euros that is, but definitely more than 10
 
@AwalGarg that's about 16£
 
@towc well .. this is a linux game: store.steampowered.com/app/200510
 
13.91 actually
@tereško not interested anyway
 
@towc if you can afford that, it is a pretty cool book
 
7:17 PM
sure .. as you wish
just stop saying that linux can only play Solitare
 
@tereško that was a joke
it also plays sudoku and majohngg
(this was also a joke)
 
And Frog Fractions
 
Terraria works on linux
that is all that matters
2
 
@AwalGarg maybe in the next cycle of books, but I'll definitely add it to my list ;)
 
Everytime I install a distro like ubuntu or anything, the first thing I do is remove games.
 
Elite Dangerous is in the sale, might buy it
 
Really good price.
However be aware expansions all cost $$
 
Delve deep into cavernous expanses, seek out ever-greater foes to test your mettle in combat, or construct your own city
 
:D ( @SomeKittens )
 
the New Horizons DLC is $50
 
7:20 PM
ouch
 
I get all the DLC for free though since I spent a shitload on the kickstarter lol
 
@BenFortune there is actually some kind of sale going on ... then again, if the discount is less than 80%, it's not worth it, because Xmas sale is in a month
 
@rlemon too pricy :/
 
kindle is $20
you just got a job
you're a baller now
 
@tereško last year the fall sale and the christmas sale had the same prices
also no more daily deals in the sales or anything
 
7:21 PM
@Loktar what?!
 
@tereško Nice, I always wanted to try that
 
yeah sale prices are set day one
and stay that price the entire sale
 
:(
LAAAAAMMMEEEE
 
@Loktar there were daily deals in the summer sale
 
I like it @rlemon
 
7:21 PM
@rlemon Don't get paid until 17th :x
 
not sure what you are refering to
 
Starting with the fall sale, the current one @tereško
 
@Loktar I liked the daily deals. it was like the gaming lottery
 
wait, @towc got a job? congrats man!
 
@rlemon lol. The point is that I'm not even sure I'll be able to read much, I'm already behind on the stuff I wanted to read. So if I buy new books I'd prefer not to spend much money on it anyway
 
7:22 PM
Really useful ^
 
@AwalGarg thanks!
 
@Loktar was that announced?
 
in any case, dinner
 
yeah
like a week or two ago
 
hmm
 
7:23 PM
Yeah, the sales got leaked
 
@Loktar played Dying light ??
 
yeah breifly
 
wasn't bad
 
looks fun
 
7:24 PM
I prefer the sales now though, because you see the price and can just buy it
no more needing to wait untul the last day
 
@MadaraUchiha :( me still needs 500 rep to CV
 
looks like Just Cause meets Walking Dead
 
@AwalGarg That's exactly one answer away.
Also, you can still , can't you?
 
no fun
@MadaraUchiha stackoverflow.com/questions/33945237/… looks like a good candidate to turn into a canon
 
@AwalGarg Have at it.
Looks good
Get a draft in place.
 
7:27 PM
actually looks good to close as dupe as well
 
@AwalGarg Bummer. Link?
 
I just made a $0 purchase on paypal because steam emptied my shopping cart
 
idk why steam does that
happens after so many mins it seems like..
even if you are still adding items
like cart times have a max time limit from when they start it seems
 
The weird thing is that paypal lets me do a $0 payment
 
7:30 PM
lol yea
 
@copy did they charge you / steam the processing fee ?
 
Nope
 
It's worth noting that it's almost never a good idea to force an async function into being sync. You almost always have a better solution that keeps the async-ness of the function intact, while still achieving the same effect (like sequencing, variable setting, etc). — Madara Uchiha ♦ 9 secs ago
 
monads are awesome
 
@MadaraUchiha If your program doesn't do anything else at the same time, synchronous is better
 
7:44 PM
@copy Define better
 
@MadaraUchiha easier
 
If you mean more readable, probably (although not really with async/await)
 
Clearer code, bigger throughput
 
@copy sync code isn't necessarily faster than async
async is more scalable wrt threads
 
@copy And also, you don't know how things turn out.
I've seen command line utilities turned to HTTP APIs in an instant with Node.
 
7:46 PM
@KendallFrey That's true
 
Would not be trivially possible to do that if everything is sync
Not if you plan on anything more than 10 users/sec
 
time to start packing up
 
I personally implement most of my sync code as wrappers around async code C:
 
everyoen upvote @Cereal for being awesome and taking the time to take me through functions properly
While I still have a few issues, at least now I have functions layed out
 
@MadaraUchiha It is with async/await
 
7:47 PM
@KendallFrey The only place I'll have sync code is on application startup
@copy Just sprinkling async/awaits everywhere won't make your sync code magically asynchronous
You need to change sync calls to async ones, you need to use promises, etc.
 
Well, yeah
I see your point, but op seems to know what he wants
 
@MadaraUchiha Congrats on the election result :-)
 
@RoelvanUden Thanks :)
@copy I've seen others wrongly refer to that question in situations where they should not.
Ripples into tidal waves :)
 
dat shiny blue text tho :D
congrats!
 
dull blue on my theme
he's anything but shiny
 
7:54 PM
You don't need to be shiny when your avatar has an erection
 
@KendallFrey true
@Abhishrek yea I've used that before
works very well
watermark is annoying, but free is free right
 
Yep
 
@Abhishrek that's awesome
 
Indeed
 
7:56 PM
 
> Rash
 
crl
Abhishrek in 10 years ^ :p
 
@rlemon :D
 
lel
 
Any help for this question stackoverflow.com/q/33945065/4670037
 
8:06 PM
@TechSolvr Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Why properties are added to array instead of items though I am iterating on items in the code
 
holy crap!
 
let me know what I am doing wrong with the JS concept
 
@Loktar someone made real metaball clock
 
damn that is awesome
 
8:10 PM
I'm so impressed right now..
 
I wonder what it does if you shake it
 
Brings all the boys to the yard?
so before PostSecret I had the same idea, but never did anything with it (mine was slightly different, anon posting for 1 year THEN compiled into a book and sold) -- imgur.com/gallery/4LJ1s this imgur post reminded me of the business opportunity lost ( I had the concept in like 2002 ).
such is life :(
 
wow
amsterdam
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum on a scale from 1 to Bob Marley... how are you right now?
 
8:22 PM
@Loktar you like the roastme right? imgur.com/gallery/67rvf
big thread of solid roasts
some of them are brutal
 
@TechSolvr You're assigning properties not elements. See my answer.
 
i.imgur.com/h8O1kNC.jpg .. mean roast pic
HA!
 
@rlemon nice
 
crl
!!urban squash
 
@crl [squash](http://squash.urbanup.com/128587) To put a end to.
Resolve.
 
8:28 PM
@rism Thanks for the explanation !!
 
np
 
@copy I improved my Kaggle submission by .00004 :D
 
crl
notbad.png
 
Nice
 
crl
8:38 PM
Brest
 
i fucking lost it
 
crl
that is you, seriously, with more beard
 
omg markiplier roastme
 
dude, I love that thread so much
so many golden roasts
 
8:43 PM
@KendallFrey Dec 7th, Japan is attempting to enter the Venus atmosphere with AKATSUKI orbiter
 
last attempt was 2010 and failed
 
entering the atmosphere is easy
not falling to bits is the hard part
 
isn't venus atmosphere like 100 times hotter than earths?
 
not so hot
several hundred C
I think
It's thick, that's the tricky part
 
8:45 PM
DERP! Just realised yesterday, after having my new machine for a week, that SLI was disabled!
 
@KendallFrey surface is 700K
wikipedia isn't telling me atmosphere temp
:/
lame
 
because it varies clearly
 
should I buy a guy fawkes mask just for the lolz?
 
well they could give me a ballpark
 
4£ on amazon
 
8:46 PM
@towc buy a horse mask
 
So pretty chilly at reentry altitude
 
Looks almost pleasant in the sulfuric acid haze
 
crl
+1 for Celsius
 
I feel like they should have just kept quiet today
 
I give thanks for all the lemons
 
crl
8:50 PM
uh, since when the pressure is 90bar on the the Earth surface?
nvm I can't read 3 vars graphs
 
@crl Nobody said anything about Earth
 
crl
ah
 

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