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10:00 PM
@SterlingArcher They did, it's called quantum mechanics
 
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Yeah there are some really cool aspects to magnetism but I don't think any of them can be applied to using dirt in any way with a magnet other than maybe to burry it
 
@KendallFrey we didn't invent it, we discovered it
 
user1596138
Like flux pinning
 
So while diamagnetism is weak, obviously not enough power to support lift. But perhaps it's possible to create a diamagnetic anti-force to react to say, dirt, water, etc to push it down?
 
I'm pretty sure you could make a hoverboard with jet engines, but it'd be a fire hazard and probably impossible to hover at a safe elevation. A water-based hover would be impractical and would probably require a hose
 
10:00 PM
@rlemon all math is an abstraction
 
user1596138
@taco They have those
 
that leaves mag-lev, I guess. Can't think of anything else
 
Water might be trickier because surface tension and you may just push the water down and sink
 
@SterlingArcher it's not that hard to levitate water using diamagnetism
 
if white jeans attract dirt, and the ground is made of dirt, can't we just put black jeans on the bottom of the board and let the dirt and the pants repel eachother?
 
10:01 PM
Solution: Just plate the roads in metal and ban cars
@Jhawins I figuired somebody would do it
 
Jhawins posted cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4606881/hoverboard.gif but it was moved to chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/61037 because gifs get annoying fast.
 
user1596138
You can use them underwater too obviously
 
But if you're using magnetic force to achieve lift, wouldnt that push the water down keeping you slightly above it?
 
Come on nerds, hurry up and develop a theory of quantum gravity
 
@SterlingArcher yeah, but you need to displace enough water
 
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10:02 PM
Quantum gravity lol
 
Whereas dirt or rock is solid enough to support the push?
 
@Jhawins what
 
!!afk My swimming pool just sank.
 
@Jhawins what? It's one of the big unsolved problems
 
10:02 PM
Anyone ever used stripe.com (or a similar service)?
 
user1596138
Yeah lol
 
user1596138
I wouldn't call it an unsolved problem
 
Some way of inducing buoyancy in the gravitational field would be perfect
 
@KendallFrey wouldn't the force of the magnetism cause the displacement?
 
user1596138
More like a talking point
 
10:03 PM
Ann app I've tried used Stripe... haven't used it myself @SecondRikudo ... no opinion on it
 
@SterlingArcher yeah, but you need lots of it
 
@Jhawins well there are a lot of seriously smart people whose entire jobs are that. They don't seem to be producing much at the moment though
 
like, a bathtub sized dent in the water
 
Because of the surface tension of water right?
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher what you describe sounds a lot more like the idea behind a hover craft (air boat, whatever)
 
10:04 PM
@SterlingArcher no, nothing like that
 
@Jhawins isn't that the idea? lol
Air hover board would be noisy as hell lol
 
user1596138
Yeah but that's with airflow and you know just how much it takes?
 
!!afk home
 
Depends. It took Wee Man + Parachute + Fan Boat to achieve approximately 65ft of distance
 
user1596138
You need a way to move a fuck ton of air lol but it's not so much pushing away from the ground as it is creating a cushion
 
10:05 PM
They used to scam kids in Boy's Life magazines with those hovercraft kits in the 80's. You basically got instructions on how to make one with a vacuum cleaner motor
 
Pushing would work on solids, but not liquids
 
user1596138
that's why an air boat/hover craft doesn't push against what's below it
 
I can see 2 prototypes made there, but a transitional model would be the hardest
 
user1596138
It creates a cushion of air
 
user1596138
And you glide on that cushion. Otherwise it wouldn't work on water.
 
10:07 PM
So with liquids it's not about force of lift it's about uncompressed space between you and the mass?
 
user1596138
A <- imagine 200 units of airflow comes in at the top of the A and only 40 units of airflow are able to leave at 1.0 pressure (1.0 pressure is just the starting pressure)
 
user1596138
So you create a cushion underneath you with a positive pressure
 
user1596138
If you go out in the water and for some reason your engine stalls you can't just restart and float back above the water, you have to find flat ground and create a new cushion and sustain it
 
I think you've got it all wrong guys. Boats for example don't generate lift to stay on the surface of the water. Floating is the lowest state of potential energy for that system. Now all we need to do is invent wibbly pseudoscience to be able to do that with the gravitational field as the buoyancy medium instead of water or air. In other words, trick spacetime into treating the spot where you want the hoverboard as the centre of gravity
 
user1596138
@TomW We're talking air boat
 
10:10 PM
You're talking air boat
 
I'm still on hoverboards, I dunno about anyone else
 
user1596138
This applies to air-hoverboard
 
And I say trying to make one by generating lift won't work
 
user1596138
> do that with the gravitational field as the buoyancy medium instead of water or air
trick spacetime into treating the spot where you want the hoverboard as the centre of gravity
 
user1596138
10:11 PM
You're talking nonsense
 
I'm so confused
 
user1596138
@TomW And I explained that hover boats don't even do it by creating lift necessarily
 
user1596138
Otherwise you could fly one straight up I imagine
 
I can see how a hoverboard could be easily achieved with an air cushion (though if your motor dies you're fucked)
 
user1596138
That's what we should be working on
 
10:13 PM
How about land
 
user1596138
Ride a goat. Problem solved
 
user1596138
!!afk home time
 
Is it possible to enhance diamagnetism to the point where a hoverboard could "hover" over any solid surface?
 
dangit @rlemon you got me messing with a prank script today
 
Pfff, what good is a prank script if it doesn't change some fonts to Comic Sans?
 
10:15 PM
If you can levitate a frog, why not.
 
headache inducer.
run it as a bookmarklet
 
@Loktar I wrote something similar once and installed it as a Chrome extension for a friend - took them a while to figure it out :D
 
haha yeah, mine seems to kill the browser with too many elements
it just blurs everything by 0.7
 
Oh, I only blurred images :D
 
and then back to nothing
lol maybe I should just blur text
if you did it ever so slightly though it would take a while to realize
probably really piss someone off too
 
10:17 PM
If you blur text as a protip - only blur nonempty text - that saves a lot of nodes
 
yeah, also I should remove the animation
 
@Loktar yeah, do it to 0.9 :D
 
alright home time, later all
 
The promise test suite is insane :D
> `y` is a thenable that tries to fulfill twice for an asynchronously-fulfilled custom thenable
`then` calls `resolvePromise` synchronously
Mad respect to Domenic
 
10:31 PM
@rwacarter sometimes you can't make questions :(
 
!!afk beer time
 
Ahahah @Loktar they are fun!
I need to think of a new one
 
can someone show me what's wrong with this by changing the error:
<a class='btn btn-info' href='#modalable' role='button' data-toggle='modal'>modal</a>
<div id='modal' class='modal hide fade' aria-labeledby='modallabel' aria-hidden='true'>
<div class='modal-header'>test header</div>
<div class='modal-body'>test body</div>
<div class='modal-footer'>test footer</div>
</div>
 
@KendallFrey what was that regex that was better than /a-Z0-9/ ?
 
@SomeKittens KendallFrey is afk: home
 
10:39 PM
@rlemon there is no way to "remove the surface" the way they have implemented it
the surface is required for magnetic field to be generated
 
@SomeKittens better for what?
 
Then they're going to have to rethink things. I remember seeing it a while ago and they mentioned that was a goal
 
it's just another scam
 
I don't think it is. They seem to be a legit company
 
@KendallFrey shorter. something like \w ?
 
10:41 PM
\w is similar to [0-9a-zA-Z_]
 
oh yeah, \w means [A-Za-z0-9_]
\W is the inverse
 
It could also match ä though
 
Yeah, usually regex is oversimplified to ascii
 
Nooooooooo!
 
It doesn't match ä in JS
 
10:43 PM
I forgot to put my beer in the fridge
 
yeah, ä shouldn't be matched
 
Depends on what you use it for
 
@copy subdomain validation
 
@SomeKittens what about _?
 
Then ä should be matched, shouldn't it?
 
10:44 PM
I need to validate that it starts and ends with a alphanumeric char, and middle chars can also be dashes or underscores
 
@FlorianMargaine Was definitely expecting this to be rebecca.blackfriday
 
@rlemon NO BEER >=(
Light beer.
Natural light.
 
@SterlingArcher it's in the freezer now
 
@rlemon how do I test unpushed changes to caprica again?
 
run her locally
 
10:48 PM
meaning...
 
javascript:(function(){var a=document.createElement("script");a.src="https://rawgit.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/master/master.js";a.onload=function(){bot.activateDevMode();};document.head.appendChild(a)})();
bookmarklet
beer! is the invocation pattern in DevMode
 
but with file://?
 
what do you mean?
your plugin?
run the bookmarklet, then paste your plugin into the console
 
I don't want Zirak's master.js, I want mine
 
should work, if you've structured it right
ohh, then just run a localhost
 
10:49 PM
I'm not making a plugin, I'm enhancing one
 
or paste it into the browser
 
the whole script?
 
and you can over write the commands
so your new command would replace the existing one I'm pretty sure
 
listeners too?
s/// is a listener
 
try it out, I think it works tho
ohh, you have to register the listener
it should over write the old listener
 
10:51 PM
how would it do that?
just by precedence?
It won't have enough info to remove the old one
fuck it, I'll just paste the whole thing into the console
 
I'm pretty sure precedence works but i'm checking the code
 
I give up:
!!> /^[A-z0-9]([A-z0-9_-]*[A-z0-9])?$/.test('_blah')
 
@SomeKittens "SyntaxError: invalid range in character class"
 
shut up
 
@SomeKittens true
 
10:53 PM
Doesn't the first character class not match underscores?
 
Don't use A-z
that matches more than letters
use A-Za-z
 
derp
thanks
 
also, put - at the start of[], not the end
 
what's the difference?
 
@SomeKittens If you add more characters in the future?
 
10:58 PM
- is a special character in []
unless it comes before a letter
 
@KendallFrey right, isn't that why it's at the end?
 
@KendallFrey Yeah, but I don't think there's a difference between [a-z-] and [-a-z]
 
Oh, maybe that's not the cause of th invalid range
 
Not the edit
the invalid range was a-Z
 
!!> "a-b".match(/^[-a-z]+$/)
 
11:00 PM
@SecondRikudo ["a-b"]
@SecondRikudo ["a-b"]
 
So yeah, exactly the same, either first or last.
 
Though "adding more later" is a good argument
 
best solution if you're not golfing is \-
 
I'm not golfing, I'm just lazy
 
11:06 PM
Nights!
 
11:16 PM
@rlemon trying to run the build, code is not being minified, halp
> minifying...
> skipping minifier: uglify2
> running minifier: default
> no minifier found; skipping
 
lol
he's so helpful by providing a default that fails.
install uglify-js
 
is angularjs worth it?
 
@DemCodeLines how big is your app?
 
@phenomnomnominal I haven't even started anything. Just wanted to know if I should use it, since I don't know if it's even popular and useful enough that there will be opportunities and demand for it down the road.
 
@DemCodeLines that's the eternal question.
How far down the road? In 2 years, it'll probably be completely obsolete
 
11:22 PM
@phenomnomnominal 2 years? When the heck did this come about?
2009
Why do you say it's going to be obsolete?
 
Well, that's why I said probably. Because you're in an incredibly fast-paced industry.
 
angular1 is i think
 
Chances are, the next thing will be here
But the things you learn from using it, probably won't be obsolete.
 
I'm not into angular but wasn't the piss off just a while back that they are making angular2 and it isn't out for like a year and when it is out they won't be supporting angular 1 for long at all
so what is the point making something big in angular 1?
^ what I vaguely remember
 
They will support it
And if they don't the community will
 
11:25 PM
i'm baffled with what I'm doing wrong here: jsfiddle.net/wjex9gzq
 
I haven't even learned AngularJS, so that's why I'm here asking the pros if it's worth it.
 
But yes, they're working towards 2.0 and the changes are huge
 
I mean, learning and mastering it takes time.
 
@DemCodeLines I believe all learning is worth it.
 
@phenomnomnominal Priorities ;)
 
11:26 PM
eh Angular is open source
it will be forked (or has been iirc)
someone will take over
 
@eyeLoveFiddle Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery
 
its too huge to just die
we are going to use it for our next big project at work. I chose it due to the learning resources available for devs
 
i loaded both of those
i thought
 
@phenomnomnominal which did you load first, jquery or bootstrap?
 
@DemCodeLines I'm just pointing out the error in their fiddle.
 
11:29 PM
@Loktar how long does it take (or supposed to take) to learn it? Coming from a Java and C# background, learning languages hasn't been fun, especially with all the time required to learn stuff.
@phenomnomnominal oh lol, fail on my part hehe
 
@Loktar We're using it for something big now too, basically for the same reasons.
 
to learn it? I mean its so relative to the dev, it has multiple learning curves tbh
 
probably not for me in that case...
 
I mean there is the initial learning curve which isn't terrible.. but then there is the learning curve when you jump into custom directives and transclusions and shit :/
 
fixed it in the fiddle: jsfiddle.net/wjex9gzq/2
 
11:30 PM
@phenomnomnominal also the jobs man!
so many jobs available for angular devs
well in the US anyway
it just seems like common sense to get it under your belt
 
Angular devs are in demand
 
So much demand, so little supply here
 
floop? wtf is floop
2.9 Zirak
 
angularjs is in demand?
 
We've basically given up trying to find anyone and are just training up internally
 
11:33 PM
@DemCodeLines yea
lots of people are using it
heh you'd be surprised how little even pay attention to the 2.0 announcements too
I wonder what % even know about the massive changes
 
also, 3.1 Zirak, the organization of this project is shit
 
I don't. How do I get caught up?
 
well I mean the announcements for 2.0 were grim for 1.3
basically no backwards compat and no upgrade path
so thats why you hear people now saying to think twice first, but meh
its too huge to "fail" imo
anyway to get caught up/learn some angular, check out egghead.io
pretty good videos there for learning it
 
@phenomnomnominal We're still trying to no luck.
We don't have anyone internal
 
man I thought it was just a government thing honestly, not being able to find devs that is
we've interviewed 4 or so "UI" devs where I work now in the private sector..
all were terrible
everyone is a front end developer now... however no one can remember simple JS syntax lol
3
 
11:43 PM
So hard to find good peeps.
 
@Loktar Hire me for $150k
 
haha
I dont think they would pay that much here
but 6 figures for sure (well.. probably can't say for sure)
which is damn awesome out here
 
@Loktar AJS, React, D3, Node, ECMA, Grunt, Core, Misc...too many options, not enough directions on where to start and progress.
 
haha yeah :/
it is quite crazy Ill give you that
 
@Loktar You guys must be offering too low.
 
11:48 PM
they don't even make it that far, to price negotiations tmk
they come in for an interview, we ask them something simple like... remove the last item in a list using javascript
they all have choked, and I'm not joking
one guy didn't even try, he said he would need ot look up every little bit of it.
 
What is the general salary/hourly wage range for these people?
 
said he could do it, he just needs to research it :?
hard to say at this job, my last job it was around 80-85k, this one is probably anywhere from 70-110k
based on experience
I also live in the midwest
so cost of living is quite low here
 
Java devs get like $50/hr, which comes out to like 100k
 
Folks, is it known what percentage of users have cookies disabled? I've looked on caniuse , but they don't seem to have this data.
 
@Zirak your bot code is making me a worse programmer. Thanks for nothing.
 

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