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3:00 PM
@RyanKinal yea but "jQuery framework" === "I have no idea what I'm doing!"
 
Yeah, pretty much
 
@KendallFrey How many web devs don't know that?
 
@Sippy Way, WAY too fucking many.
 
@KendallFrey Disclaimer: GoDaddy knows your password. Just saying.
 
...right
 
3:04 PM
they store your account passwords and root passwords in a two way encryption
I was talking to a support guy and he's like "okay let me just log in using your password"
ummm, what?>!?!?!
 
@KendallFrey wtf, how does this guy know they don't store your plain password only on different secret servers and use it to sell to the CIA and FBI?
 
@rlemon is that a joke?
 
nope
GoDaddy stores your passwords using a method that is reversible
and they have the methods to reverse it
and any support agent can do it
 
what on Earth?
 
user2620028
Thats called customer support :D
 
3:07 PM
@rlemon morons alert
 
(their claims that any support agent cannot is false, I've called in and had a random support agent just log into my account without asking express permission)
 
@AaronSiciliano That's called poor privacy control
 
^
NO ONE should have my passwords but me
 
@rlemon did you enlighten them with the standards?
 
user2620028
Damn americans don't know sarcasm....
 
3:07 PM
and being able to easily reverse a hash is just as bad as not having a hash
@AwalGarg I chewed out the support agent and tweeted about it a while back
it's known, no one seems to care
 
@rlemon even you shouldn't have your password
besides the root pass
and a keychain
 
I don't like the keychain concept
 
I've been thinking I should start using a keychain...
 
@rlemon hoezo?
 
user2620028
Yeah i lose my keys all the time
 
3:09 PM
If I was in your place, I would have probably went to their offices and slammed the devs there.
 
user2620028
and anyone who finds them can use my house and vehicles.
 
@AwalGarg Yeah, because that's feasible...
And not at all overreacting
 
@RyanKinal well. it is a serious offence
 
Have you guys heard about this new virus that encrypts all your personal files on the system and then they require you to pay $500 to unlock it
 
but yea, I don't live anywhere near godaddy HQ
@ziGi it isn't new
 
3:10 PM
yeah I know but there is a newer version
that popped out recently
 
@rlemon o/
 
user2620028
@AwalGarg lets be completely honest here. Who said it was the dev's fault for making that system. We have all had clients make requests where we go no..... no no no no no no... fuck your the one paying me.
 
hi mate :D
 
@RyanKinal absolutely not. That is an incredibly normal behavior of mine... LinkedIn was forced to pay millions because of not 'salting' the 'hashes'.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar read the comments I left you earlier
 
3:11 PM
@AbhishekHingnikar read the entire transcript from the first day.
 
@rlemon um did u ping me ?
 
I think the safest way to lock your stuff is to use your brain patterns i.e. asks you logical questions that will correspond only to your thinking patterns
 
@AbhishekHingnikar check main
should be two in your inbox
 
and they are established using a blackbox learning algorithm like neural networks
 
@ziGi and then hash and salt the pattern eh?
 
3:12 PM
well not really
if they steal it
they still don't know how to answer
 
skin and urine samples
 
okay got it :-)
 
test DNA
 
because the neural networks is a black box algorithm
 
only way to be sure
 
3:12 PM
the video rendering is scaling issue :-/
 
@rlemon urine???
 
@rlemon doesn't help, someone might collect them easily
 
@AbhishekHingnikar and that carousel.. so unusable.
 
user2620028
Should have a fingerprint and eye scanner for every website
 
looks nice, but unusable.
 
3:13 PM
its a 720p on some gpu's its great on some it sucks... rpobably gonna use a 360p
 
@AaronSiciliano doesn't help, someone might take your eye out
 
@rlemon oki :-) will add something
 
@ziGi you can tell how old a sample is
they must be fresh
 
user2620028
and when your fingerprints or eyes change they poke you in the eye and burn your fingertips in anger
 
@rlemon they can always come, cut your head off in your house, and still all your cash and run away, that doesn't work
 
3:13 PM
@KendallFrey web devs who don't know about web security seem fairly scary.
 
user2620028
@rlemon why do you have experience in how fresh samples must be?
 
@Sippy of course they are
 
fresh urine makes the best somosas
 
@AaronSiciliano as fresh as a morning baked bread or the dew on the peaches before sunrise
 
man, I love it when somebody forks one of my old projects :D
 
user2620028
3:15 PM
@RalphWiggum Sounds so dirty :/
 
@RalphWiggum I love when someone pull requests a project that has been dead for like 2 years
 
I didn't know you refer to your ex girlfriend as old project
 
@AaronSiciliano It is dirty :D
 
@RalphWiggum
 
user2620028
Hahaha @ziGi reminds me of Christopher Titus referencing to his ex wife as a frame off restoration project
 
3:16 PM
haha quite right
:D
 
user1596138
@SomeKittensUx2666 I'm just seeing this for some reason... But yes. I have a love for... Controlled combustion under my crotch. And under the hood. I don't know if I want to explore that career-wise or not.
 
I think in order to avoid having many ex-gfs
just don't date them
 
user2620028
Hawins what are you talking about lol
 
go out with many different girls, tell them you are their friend
have more close encounters
and be chilled about it
then leave the country at some point
 
user1596138
But either way a Mechanical/Electrical Engineering degree is in my future I think. I can apply that knowledge to any of the fields I consider.
 
user1596138
3:19 PM
@AaronSiciliano Careers. Replying to Kittens from like 3 days ago but I never saw the ping
 
Even to the field of picking up girls?
 
user1596138
That's not a field, nor something I pursue. Girls walk into my life all on their own.
 
hm
I like this Swagger thing but they could've described how to use it better
 
user1596138
I don't chase
 
@BartekBanachewicz that goes for many more open source things :)
@Jhawins so you are e plEyer
 
user2620028
3:20 PM
@Jhawins what work are you going to do that you have "Controlled combustion under my crotch. "
 
@ziGi Roflmao that escalated quickly.
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano Motorcycles ;)
 
@ziGi this idea that I get schema and can run test requests is really nice
 
user2620028
@Jhawins damn thats the boring answer lol
 
@Sippy haha actually I did that, it's quite nice, you keep in friendly manner with them, everyone is happy
 
user1596138
3:21 PM
@ziGi I don't know what this message means.
 
like A plAyer but with an E
So it can sound cooler
 
I mean the demo
 
user2620028
It indeed does not sound cooler lol
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano lol and the fun one? I once set off a tube of gas (it's complicated...) sitting on my lap. Burnt all the pubes away. TMI? idgaf
 
@BartekBanachewicz what demo, sorry I missed the point somewhere, which idea?
 
user1596138
Melted shorts to my leg too, thankfully there was no polyester mated to my genitals.
 
I don't care about stuff like querying the API
I'd just like to create such a nice page
 
@Jhawins ewww gross
 
@Jhawins Don't wear plastic shorts if you plan on making a career out of it.
Lol
super bad move.
 
user2620028
@jhawins please wait to send these types of messages until right after caprica welcomes a new user to the chat.
 
3:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz well you can copy part of the code of swagger for the frontend
 
user1596138
@Sippy who doesn't have a bike but wants a Ducati... ;P
 
@Jhawins Stop teasing me
 
Btw guys, one advice:
Never, never, NEVER, I accent on NEVER do mix bleach and vinegar, it can kill you or quickly put you into hospital
 
user2620028
Good question hawins... i think im going to sell mine here soon :P
 
user1596138
Usually basketball shorts wouldn't cause problems :P
 
3:24 PM
I've been to their factory in Italy
 
because the acid in the vinegar mixes with the bleach and it releases chlorine in the air
 
Was drooooling
 
user1596138
Pfft I think I did my new cam chain in my boxers and a beater
 
user1596138
It's just meticulous. Not hot and flaming usually.
 
I tend to wear trackies when I work on my bike or my brother's car lol
Which are probably plastic
 
user2620028
3:25 PM
i just wear work jeans and shirt
 
But not hot and flaming, as you say.
 
user1596138
@ziGi Yeah, if you make mustard gas you're gonna have a bad time
 
@Jhawins ^
 
user1596138
I usually do. But when the garage is attached to my house... Why would I put on pants
 
user2620028
3:26 PM
Had room mates evacuate the house we were living in once because they tried to use a glow stick recipe they found on 4chan. It was chlorine gas.
 
user1596138
And can't see any other houses from there so
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano Oh my god.
 
@AaronSiciliano CLAPCLAPCLAP
 
@AaronSiciliano natural selection
 
WHY WOULD YOU USE ANYTHING YOU FIND ON 4CHAN.
2
 
3:26 PM
if you are dumb, you are going to die
 
user2620028
@ziGi Yep
 
user2620028
@Sippy Newbies lol
 
Darwin awards exist for a reason lol
 
additionally I am sure many people nowadays eat much more meat than they would have if they had to hunt/kill it themselves
 
user1596138
3:27 PM
But anyway yeah, I think I'm gonna go to school still but who knows.
 
"Two Americans in their 20s tried to make glowsticks. They died from Chlorine gas poisoning."
 
@Sippy ahahha
 
Go do something in engineering, Jhawins.
 
user1596138
Not in Indiana though hahaha
 
user2620028
@Sippy try three 17 year olds lol
 
user1596138
3:28 PM
Yup, engineering is the only thing worth it to me.
 
@AaronSiciliano I was gonna say teens but I didn't wanna offend yo' young self sir.
 
user1596138
But that costs crazy paper.
 
!!magic
 
(∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━☆゚. * ・ 。 ᵐᵃᵍⁱᶜ
 
@Jhawins Your degrees cost different prices
?
 
user2620028
3:29 PM
@Sippy you can take it as a personal challenge to offend me if you wish, i don't see you acheiving it :P
 
@AaronSiciliano Well that's good.
 
user1596138
@Sippy Depends on the school. And yes.
 
that's not the !!magic I know and love :(
 
user1596138
@Sippy go ahead and take a guess at what a bachelors will cost me.
 
@AaronSiciliano your mother is a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries
 
user1596138
3:29 PM
4 years
 
@Jhawins Something like $60k
It's more than that in the UK
 
user2620028
@rlemon RUN AWAAAAAAY
 
user1596138
Yea good shot.
 
user1596138
@ziGi was saying how cheap it is in the Netherlands and such. It's ridiculous.
 
It was fucking cheap, I was the last year group to get it for $20k
After that they hiked it up
By a LOT
 
3:30 PM
@Jhawins but it is cheap if you are european
 
user1596138
Out of state tuition to Purdue is like $30K/year
 
otherwise it can go from 6-10K euros
 
@Jhawins Oh.
 
user1596138
I can go for $11K/year
 
Top colleges are more like 60k then?
Oh shit
 
user1596138
3:30 PM
@Sippy per year
 
30k/year
fuck me
 
user2620028
I watched a youtube video dedicated to cult classic comedies the other day and it had some fantastic movies on it i want to go watch again. Monty Python Holy Grail, Airplane, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Officespace.....
 
user1596138
 
That's about 70k GBP, slightly more than people pay these days.
 
user2620028
I had a college want to charge me $89k per year.... although it was an accelerated bachelors, so it was going to take 1.5 years for a bachelors
 
3:32 PM
LOL
 
user2620028
But that also didnt have housing or any amenities
 
user1596138
Purdue is probably where I should go if I do.. Since I pay 1/3 and they have amazing engineering programs. But fuck Indiana hahaha
 
Why the hell is education in the States so Expensive?
 
user2620028
Hey thats only $33,000 per year for a bachelors. Not that bad
 
JHawins just come to the UK as an international student, it won't cost you as much hahaha
 
user1596138
3:33 PM
@ziGi If I come to your area it's about the same price as here. Since I'm a non-eu citizen
 
It's only $24k ish per year xD
 
user2620028
@ziGi The better you do in school the better the education you get and the more you pay for it. Unlike other countries where the better you do in school the better the education and the cheaper you pay for it :P
 
user1596138
@Sippy You're wrong. They charge us more.
 
user1596138
You pay half of what an American pays from what I've seen.
 
@Jhawins rly... how much per year? I thought international fees were 5k more
They're double?!
 
3:33 PM
@AaronSiciliano that's just stupid, they don't even teach you how to study properly and how to expand your mind and do photo reading and such hacks for better learning
 
That's still cheaper, slightly hahaha
 
they just give you material and presentation and expect you to know the shit
 
user1596138
$5K more is a lot.. But it was insane in Netherlands and everywhere else I looked. SOmetimes more than double
 
just tuition is like $13K a year for UofW engineering
 
and you do this with 5000 other people
 
3:34 PM
like $3K in books
dayum
 
user1596138
@ziGi what university were you showing me again? They are a prime example for this
 
Delft
 
Pffffffffffffff
 
user2620028
@rlemon Yeah UofI tuition is like $12k a year
 
University van Amsterdam
 
3:34 PM
I got lucky, I paid £3k/year for my degree.
 
You can get tuition and board at 13k per year at clemson university
 
every university in the netherlands is the same price
 
My tuition was only 7k/year
 
It's £9k/yr in the UK now for a bachelors
 
user1596138
> tudents with EU/EFTA nationality or Surinamese nationality

All Bachelor's and Master's degree programmes is € 1,906 per year.

Students with non-EU/EFTA nationality

All Bachelor's programmes € 8,464,- per year
All Master's programmes € 13,226,- per year
 
3:35 PM
For domestic students that is.
 
@Sippy yep
 
user1596138
Almost 8* hike
 
user1596138
But still that's fucking dirt cheap.
 
Mm
 
@rlemon ok, going to start a project with ejs
 
3:36 PM
@Jhawins I see now why American appreciate you when you come with an European degree to the States
:D
 
I wouldn't have got a degree if I had to pay that much though, fuck that.
 
user1596138
@ziGi Huh?
 
I think education should be for free, we need smart people, not only burger tossers
 
Nobody appreciates a european degree. In the US, jobs barely care about college degrees
It's just another degree to us
 
user1596138
I'm 19, I don't have established views on what a degree is worth from down the road here even hahaha.
 
3:37 PM
in Canada you have to have some form of post secondary (diploma or degree) to be a garbage man
(government positions all require them now)
 
user1596138
Wasn't I supposed to like, learn about college shit in High School?
 
@Jhawins well a friend of mine works for Google and he said they really appreciated his degree
 
user2620028
Yeah me either. But as far as i can tell. A degree has not stopped me from anything so far.
 
when applying
 
user1596138
Because I don't even understand.
 
3:38 PM
@Jhawins whats up ?
 
I think he's bitching about something but I don't get about what
 
user1596138
@Sippy also the engineering degrees have a $2K fee on top of that from the picture I posted earlier
 
user1596138
@AbhishekHingnikar Copy/pasting templated documents.
 
such fun !
 
user1596138
And contemplating life and college, and weird names for wrenches.
 
3:39 PM
And melting shorts.
 
I want a Lemon Wrench
 
user1596138
That was like a year ago. But it haunts me. I spared the details of the burns.
 
user1596138
It was not a good time... Thankfully bloodflow is rather good in that region though. Quick healing
 
@Jhawins Gross. Education is ludicrously expensive.
 
@Sippy I thought it is luda crisly expensive
 
user1596138
3:40 PM
@Sippy I agree. I have a plan though.
 
user1596138
I will not go to school out of pocket. I'll just progress as best I can without it if that's my option.
 
@SterlingArcher Untrue, British degree courses contain three years of specialisation rather than the US only having 2, and we have a much more rigorous schooling system in terms of A levels etc than the US has in high school.
 
@Jhawins I can give you one general advice: "If you don't work for your own dreams, you would work for someone that pays you to achieve his dreams"
 
user1596138
I'm targeting scholarships. Working on relevant projects
 
Anyone know of a JS library that handles opening the keyboard on mobile phones/creates an input/captures it?
 
user1596138
3:41 PM
Jul 29 at 13:50, by Jhawins
@SecondRikudo Build your dreams or someone will hire you to build theirs ;)
 
The three years of specialisation thing is generally sought over US degrees. Obviously depends on your institution though.
 
user1596138
I shouldn't have passed up my scholarships from Buick last year :/. But I'm glad I spent the year working instead.
 
@Jhawins Good idea, that.
 
Most jobs around here don't give a shit what your GPA is or if you even have a degree. If you can wow them with your skills, they completely ignore your schooling.
 
My brother is trying to get sponsored to do engineering by the army.
@SterlingArcher 'Here' being?
 
user1596138
3:43 PM
@SterlingArcher I'll go to school next to you and we can be bromates for the next 4 years lmao
 
I have one single purpose in my life
 
Washington DC
@Jhawins there's a community college right near me :P
 
@SterlingArcher Huh. That surprises me.
 
do get independent of all the sick fucks that bother me
 
@ziGi Mine is to fuck bitches and get money.
 
3:44 PM
I want to establish my own island with my own rules for me and my friends that think like me
 
Hahahaha
 
@Sippy hah I did that
 
Lord of the Flies!
 
it's fun just for a little while
 
@ziGi That's true, I got a lil womano now.
I've so far failed the get money bit, still working on it :D
 
3:44 PM
womano?
 
!!s/womano/woman/
 
@Sippy woman? (source)
 
Am I doing that fucking wrong?
 
user1596138
I also have an insane financial safety net for my age... So. That makes me think I should go to college while I have the added assurance of not being homeless
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Fuck bro not wasting the money haha
 
3:46 PM
@Jhawins I have the feeling you are really proud of your moneyzzz
you even brag a bit about it
 
user1596138
@ziGi No, I make $15/hr.
 
does that help you feel more confident in front of the internet peeps?
 
user1596138
Everyone here knows I make dirt pay lol what are you talking about.
 
:P
 
user1596138
My ~$35-50K payout is nothing. Users in this room have turned down 6 figure jobs this year.
 
3:47 PM
money is not happiness
 
Money buys happiness.
 
money can be a problem if you have below certain amount that fits your basic needs
 
No matter what you say
 
user1596138
I don't understand you. Are you just trying to be antagonizing or what?
 
yes, but for example I won't be happy having a proche
but I would be happy having an island
 
3:48 PM
Neither would I
 
@Jhawins not really
 
I'd be happy having an RX7 though
 
just expressing my opinion
 
mmmmmm rx7
 
I find cars being just a means of transporot
 
3:48 PM
nomnomnom
 
anything else is just luxury
but I am a non-conformist
a bit of socialist
 
user2620028
@sippy Nom in thai means boobs :D
 
so maybe that's why my view is like this
 
user1596138
@ziGi Many users here I would consider my friends. When I say something that doesn't seem to make sense to you, or doesn't apply, or maybe you think I'm trying to brag about my tiny salary... Just assume it was meant for the rest of the room (it usually will be)
 
money is a necessity, regardless
 
3:49 PM
I wish I was making 6 figures. I've got a few years to go
 
user2620028
taco is back! how was your vacation man
 
good
just picked up the cats
 
@Jhawins are you patronizing me right now?
 
They were at Camp Kitty
 
user1596138
@ziGi By a loose definition, yes.
 
3:50 PM
The cats must've loved Camp Kitty, because they wouldn't shut the fuck up on the ride home
 
@AaronSiciliano That's literally my favorite word now.
 
user2620028
@Sippy i know right
 
@taco Hahahahaha for some reason that fucking made me lol so hard
 
user2620028
Hey man Kitty Camp sounds like fun if it was a college organized event
 
@Jhawins My plan is to be making 6 figures in USD by the time I'm 24.
ASP.NET CARRY ME TO MY DREAMS!
 
user1596138
3:52 PM
@Sippy Hahaha that is a good plan, mind if I jump on? It's my plan too now.
 
MONO.NET IS BEST LIB
 
Vacation was great, but, I nearly got hit by a bottle on the head in a Dragoncon host hotel from probably 100 feet up. Some drunk assholes tossed about five down in a crowd of thousands
That's where one of the bottles hit....
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano nice car! I dig
 
@taco You lucky fucker.
 
I got hit by tiny shards and got a small cut but that was it, so I got lucky...
 
3:53 PM
@taco That could be what your head would have looked like, except a lot bloodier
 
Yeah......
I thought they were fireworks at first
 
I hope your cats appreciate you.
 
like snap pops
 
user2620028
@taco yeah you were lucky. dang
 
user2620028
@Jhawins lol wait what car. What did i miss?
 
3:54 PM
how can I check if browser supports css' calc rule with javascript? (no jquery please)
 
Gotta get to work, I'll bb on later
 
You coulda fuckin died from that, jesus
People are so stupid
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano Profile pic
 
ahahaha :D
 
Lol
 
3:55 PM
@Jhawins my cousin threw up on the metro this weekend. We went out to DC and he was slumped by the time we got back lol
 
user2620028
@Jhawins Oh hahaha thanks. Thats my 305 car. We are putting engines back in them this week and hopefully might make the back end of this racing season.
 
guuuuuyyyssss...
 
@AaronSiciliano wait what car
 
girllllllll
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher lmfao nice. I can't imagine traveling around by foot and train and such drunk. The closest metro to here would be.... Umm... I don't know.
 
user2620028
3:56 PM
@sippy look at my profile pic
 
user1596138
I don't think we have any type of subway system in the entire state.
 
It's bad dude. Everything is so... accessible here.
 
OH
 
c'mon, atleast tell me is it even possible. I am scratching my head on that for like an hour!
 
user1596138
@AaronSiciliano Nice!! What's a 305 car? They do classes by engine or?
 
user1596138
3:57 PM
@AwalGarg Huh
 
user2620028
@Jhawins Yes they do classes by engine size. A 305 car is a 305 block chevy engine.
 
@Jhawins ?
 
user1596138
@AwalGarg I will hate you forever if you do this too many more times.
 
user1596138
Google your question -> "js check for css calc" -> click first SO link. Answer is right there
 
typical Awal.
 
user1596138
3:58 PM
!!google js check for css calc
 
@Jhawins but... but... but...
 
@Jhawins it is using modernizr
 
user2620028
@Jhawins we put together this car last winter because our local tracks said they were ditching the 410 class and switching to the budget class (305) so we made up this car and parked our 410. turns out next year they are switching back to the 410 class so we just wasted tons of money rebuilding both engines :(
 
and the next answer is using jquery.
 
user1596138
3:59 PM
@AaronSiciliano Damn that sucks lol. But what is a 305 car... And a 410 car. What variable determines that class? I would guess the 305s have a 305 in them haha. But I don't know sprint cars
 

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