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9:00 AM
@AbhishekHingnikar It can be both, can it not? I don't see a problem with it, albeit a bit complex
You could use svn to take care of this sort of thing you know
Use svn to help you manage versioning internally
 
@Neil distribute svn ?
i thought of using git itself
 
@AbhishekHingnikar No no. It's the server isn't it?
 
using js-git but soon realized its an overkill.
@Neil it has to sync photo library b/w server and client and distributed home sharing servers too :-)
 
I wouldn't touch versioning with a 10 foot pole
Trying to do that yourself is overkill. Using git is sane :)
 
I can't resist more
!!afk going OUT IN THE RAIN!!!!
 
9:02 AM
Such an odd thing
 
@Neil yeah because of the distributed servers the .git seems like a great option to me
even apple uses git for timemachine .. iirc or they use something like it.
 
> ME: mom I'm going out...
MOM: Why? Its' raining, you'll get fever! Get inside your room.
ME: ;'(
fuck
@AbhishekHingnikar apple made a timemachine??? when???
 
@AwalGarg SINCE 2008 or 2010
its not like system restore on windows its insanely powerful
takes incremental back-ups of the whole fs
 
ahhh. stupid me, I thought... the 'timemachine'
@AbhishekHingnikar and stores them where?
 
hard disk or time-capsule
or extrenal hdd
wherever u want... apple is not that cloud freak but someday they will do that too
 
9:07 AM
and then takes a backup of the external hdd?
 
lol finally my node.js hello world program works :D
been working on it since 2 days! (seriously, no jokes)
client side JS is far more easy..
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Well why not? I think you exaggerate the difficulties of git
 
@Neil no there is a different issue
but yes git does make a lot more sense :-)
also by git i can have a nice lil git repo for each user
the only issue is git will keep on increasing in size madly
 
My opinion on that is that disk space can always grow, but if you have problems with complexity, you've got some serious problems on your hands
If nothing else, you figure out a way of purging older versions later on
I wonder how sites like deviantart keep track of all those images
All users who submit images expect to find it, and it's not feasible to keep track of them all
 
9:27 AM
how/can I disable that annoying sublime popup asking you to buy sublime after every few file saves?
 
@AwalGarg Buy sublime
 
@Neil :P nope... ain't got much $$ right now.
 
Best software website 2014 ?
 
onload="window.lol&&lol()"
^from google home page source code!!
right click the logo on google homepage and inspect in debugger. you will find it there.
what could it mean?
 
9:45 AM
I saw that a perk of a job was to be paid in bitcoin
Wondering why that's considered to be a perk
 
It would be, if everything could be bought with Bitcoin
Also depends how much of it you get paid with...
 
guys, what approach would you recommend when doing something like this -> winstonwolf.pl/clickable-maps/austria.html
 
@Psychemaster Maybe if it were like a bonus
But if that is your sole source of income, that is problematic..
 
Naturally, since most retailers don't take BTC
 
9:55 AM
the description doesn't answer your question?
 
Obligatory comment about premature optimizationBenjamin Gruenbaum 6 secs ago
 
Nope....

Proposed Q&A site for writers/artists using science, geography and culture to construct imaginary worlds and settings.
 
@SecondRikudo That's pretty cool !
 
but that's exactly what it is :D
construct imaginary worlds and settings
think of Middle-Earth
someone had to think all details of this world up, that is called worldbuilding
 
Lol, I am trying to make sense of all this *processing
Mean while, let say I get a tr in a variable using it's data attribute value like this,

var row = $("#fruittable tr[data-id=" + fruitID + "]");

how can I check another attribute's value "data-status" from row varaible
 
10:01 AM
that awkward moment when IE runs your CSS animation but chrome doesnt :o
 
+1 for not working in ie6 — iambriansreed Apr 17 '12 at 17:23
lol
 
vs7
1
Q: Mailchimp template issue while using repeatable blocks

Roop KumarI have created form template in Mailchimp, I have been through the documentation and using all the Mailchimp tags respectively its even showing me the icons to drag/ movable content editable etc. whenever i edit the content its visible through the campaign test area but when i copy the block and ...

 
@include transform(translateX( -webkit-calc( 100vmin * -5 + 100) ));
sass challenge... achieve that ? the sass way ?
 
10:20 AM
user image
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ie.works = !chrome.works
 
Where would we be as a culture and as a civilization without cat pictures on the internet? It would be chaos! Chaos!
 
ie managed to break background-attachment: fixed ? [it jumps weirdly]
how can u mess that up ;_;
 
it's supposed to draw a spiral
no errors in the console
I have a p1 which has a distance from p2 of spacing
with a for loop I switch between the 2 and draw a circle at their position with the right angles with a radius incrementing by spacing
and it does stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
10:29 AM
I'm not sure if I got the maths wrong or I'm missing something obvious in the code
 
iOS Safari fuck u
 
<canvas id=c></canvas>
Pet peeve of mine. Please use <canvas id="c"></canvas>
 
i can say that to iOS Safari
 
checks the checkbox but doesn't triggers the click event on it...

$('.myCheckbox').prop('checked', true);
do I have to do it manually ?
 
@Neil the first solution works, and when I just want to see something quick I write it like that. going to change it anyway
 
10:31 AM
@towc eventually = never
 
@JanDvorak didn't say eventually XD. Also, I just changed it
and to be cleaner I added c=document.getElementById('c')
 
@towc var
 
@JanDvorak it's in a stream of other vars, like var a=1, b=2, c=3
 
@CustomizedName yep, you have to
 
ok, brb in 20 mins
if anyone can give me a clue as to what I did wrong please tell me
 
10:34 AM
@CustomizedName if you don't separate your concepts properly
 
wasn't quite 20 misn XD
apparently I've done something wrong with the angles
 
@JanDvorak separate my concepts ? , sorry didn't get that
 
!!tell customi google separation of concerns
 
user2985029
!!tell xxx google microservices
 
concept !== concern @JanDvorak @CustomizedName
 
@xxx just use Google yourself ;-)
@AwalGarg IKR
 
10:45 AM
Hey guys, sorry for getting in the middle. But if any of you are geeks who are really interested in science as a whole, check out this new Area51 proposal [**Scientific Imagination**](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/75912/scientific-imagination?referrer=IPIEcsN2huMFuP7v0aO_3g2).

Please let me know what you think.
 
hehe yea. But why you typed "concepts" in the original message? (doesn't look like a typo to me :P)
 
@Krumia seems too broad to me
@AwalGarg it was a brain fart, most likely
 
hahahaha...
 
@Jan: Too broad is the nature of the proposal. :) BTW you should really look at Science Fiction/Fantacy site. :)
 
kinda
@AwalGarg - Thanks!! Can you please give specific reason for your comment. — Raj 29 mins ago
 
10:47 AM
@Krumia unless you limit the site to hypothetical questions only
 
what should I answer to the above. I already told him what he has asked now, but I can't type an entire post for him...
 
please full qualify @JanDvorak with at least 5 characters @Krumia :p
 
@Awal: not dupe. This is strictly based on scientific facts. It's intended to be like what-if.xkcd.com.
 
@jAndy and now I got unnecessarily pinged ;-{
 
10:49 AM
@Krumia why not just post the questions to WhatIf?
 
@Krumia I'm kind of OK with XKCD's whatif
 
@JanDvorak: What if does not post all questions it gets. which is unfortunate
 
@JanDvorak I havn't reached that level yet, to apply separation of cencept in my code yet, I am trying to learn JS first, and develop this module, once completed I will be doing refracting and then I will see how could I improve it,

I think this is the best possible solution ?
 
There are people like me who would love to see more. and answer such questions
 
I clicked on that codepen link I and the sudden I felt so tired... and weak.... my eyes were so heavy...
 
10:50 AM
Or so I assume :D
 
@jAndy i second that!
 
XD
it worked! world domination is mine
 
I'm not clicking that, then
 
mind giving it your heart?
 
I only have one, sorry
 
10:54 AM
not on codepen :P
 
Thanks everyone for the feedback.
 
@JanDvorak you can give a kidney then.
 
@JanDvorak Pfffft, soft.
 
Ell
Hi
 
on checkbox trigger change isn't triggering anything
 
Ell
11:02 AM
I'm about to punch my monitor in the face. I just can't get this CORS nonsense fixed! I thought I had it!
 
using click instead and works
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum wow at the IE guys response on that post, just saw that you commented on it as well :D
+1 IE, +1
 
Also came to chat
 
> possible duplicate of what-if.xkcd.com/8 and a bunch of other "whatif jump" search results – Jan Dvorak
 
11:14 AM
@JanDvorak I didn't copy it from there... please believe me this time :D
 
@AwalGarg it still is
 
@JanDvorak no. You can suggest only SE-wide dupes. That comment is invalid lol
 
@AwalGarg would quoting the full what-if article be a valid (CW) answer?
 
@JanDvorak No, even community wiki posts are not exempted from the plagiarized content list.
 
I would attribute, ofc
 
11:18 AM
It would still remain plagiarized.
And this thing was heavily discussed during all the private betas I have participated in.
 
What if I only quote 15% of it?
 
I have written an email to Randal Munroe asking support for this. He would not be too happy to see his site copied verbatim :D
 
@JanDvorak If you explain it well in your own words, it would count as a reference, which is fine.
 
@AwalGarg the XKCD licence is CC-BY-NC, quoting it in its entirety would be perfectly legal as far as XKCD is concerned.
 
@JanDvorak Plagiarized doesn't mean that you defied the distribution license of the origin. It means you copied, and pasted as it is. (In this context.)
 
11:20 AM
@AwalGarg it's not plagiarism if you attribute your source
 
@JanDvorak it is (in this context)
 
@AwalGarg what to do then? rewrite the XKCD article?
 
@JanDvorak Take the main points from there (as quotes) and explain in your own words. So that would be seen as you researched, put effort, then gave your answer.
> @Jan, I don't believe that is a reference to an existing stack exchange site. – Mew 5 mins ago
 
So a friend of mine is presenting to an Australian law enforcement conference tomorrow and he's been challenged to work in the words Gecko and Testicles as part of a bet. Any ideas?
Gecko's easy, but making testicles benign is a bit trickier
 
when we going to have a stack exchange for economy related questions
 
11:37 AM
@AwalGarg grrrr
 
@jAndy eh?
 
@jAnd (until here I got pinged too)
 
@jAndy since you pinged me without any reason, you would have to read this!
may your head explode in all its awesomeness after reading that!
 
tl;dr
I need a one-liner explosion
 
@jAndy just read the first couple of lines, that will be enough.
if you still want more, then go here
 
11:45 AM
user image
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y u no understand this?
 
I did, thats why picard answered
 
lmao my coworkers are fighting
 
@jAndy but but this...
 
I'm in the conference call, laughing
 
11:48 AM
fighting ? verbal ? physical ?
 
verbal
This is the worst altercation I've ever heard from our meek little team.
 
@KendallFrey Have you set up a betting pool yet?
 
@monners "I'm preparing testcles questions for you all to take. Study them well from the gecko."
 
would you say this red bearded guy is almost the ISIS leader?
!!wiki isis
 
@Moderateur I'm pretty sure that's a viking
 
12:01 PM
Isis (/ˈaɪsɪs/; Ancient Greek: Ἶσις; original Egyptian pronunciation more likely "Aset" or "Iset") is a goddess in Ancient Egyptian religious beliefs, whose worship spread throughout the Greco-Roman world. She was worshipped as the ideal mother and wife as well as the patroness of nature and magic. She was the friend of slaves, sinners, artisans and the downtrodden, but she also listened to the prayers of the wealthy, maidens, aristocrats and rulers. Isis is often depicted as the mother of Horus, the falcon-headed deity associated with king and kingship (although in some traditions Horus's mother...
 
no it's not that dumb caprica ;)
he's a member of the islamic organisation... like Al Qaeda
 
how isis is related to JS ?
 
*ISIS
 
@CustomizedName It's not. This guy's trying to start a flame war
 
I read hundred of articles, some books too, but I am not able to understand what is DOM, how it interacts with JavaScript, what is JavaScript engine and how is it different then browsers, it has been 3 years now
 
12:05 PM
no I'm just saying that is unexpected to see a russian red bearded guy be almost the leader of the ISIS islamic organization and other than is an incentive for me to join
let's stop it here anyway
 
@Moderateur you have been flagged
 
@JanDvorak thank you. i live in Iraq and that's no problem if I speak up that I want to join Islamic caliphate by the laws here
 
@CustomizedName don't abuse the flag system
if you don't like the conversation ask for it to stop
or ignore the user
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
or leave the room
 
12:09 PM
I've even said that
3 mins ago, by Moderateur
let's stop it here anyway
 
@rlemon is it me who is abusing by not following the room's rules ?
 
yes
 
@rlemon If they flagged the ISIS comment then I'm not gonna call that flag invalid.
 
@CustomizedName I don't see how that message is offensive
 
you are abusing the stack overflow rules by abusing the flag system
 
12:10 PM
ok
 
@rlemon How is flagging breaking the rules?
 
@monners that isn't either a racist comment, hate speech or anything like that forbidden by stackoverflow rules, isn't it?
 
@KendallFrey if a message isn't offensive or spam, don't flag it as such.
 
I thought message was spam because,

1. No one knows what ISIS actually is
2. There is no relation of ISIS to JS unless they are secretly planning to release a newer version of JS
3. It is kind of advertisment saying, I am joining this orga... which by news and media declared as "Negative" I would say
 
^^^
 
12:15 PM
the flags were invalidated, I already said my opinions, the conversation is over. drop it.
I know your side, we're cool. done.
 
right. let's drop it as rlemon says! I need to work, not discuss bs about ISIS.
 
ALL THE SIDES!
 
@CustomizedName off-topic conversations are on-topic here. And this really isn't advertising anything
 
lol another silly conversation started?
 
Nope ended :P
 
12:18 PM
hahahaha
 
in other news. pulling neck muscles fucking sucks
 
fortunately, I wasn't here even this time. me iz lucky :D
 
@FlorianMargaine @RUJordan @GNi33 @Loktar Probably gonna skip tonights workout -- see message above. If it gets better I'm in, but I don't want to make it worse :/
 
@AwalGarg if I wasn't busy I'd open a new annoying discussion with you.
 
@rlemon there's a workout racket going around?
 
12:20 PM
@Moderateur and you will go to the tiny avatar list of a lot of people.
 
@monners yea, we started 3 days ago
 
@AwalGarg I surpass ignoring list :) sorry
 
jAndy motivates
 
gth
 
12:20 PM
i.stack.imgur.com/Jo3UG.png tell me this isn't motivating
srs
 
20 monate = 20 months
 
@rlemon You do know I used to be a professional acrobat, right?
 
I thought you were a figure skater
and a lion tamer
 
@rlemon still better than mine
 
@rlemon All of the above
 
12:21 PM
weird how muscled guys look tanned
 
well he did that in 20 months, so we're trying to at least commit to 20 weeks of working out daily.
 
I didn't experience this tanning :D
 
@rlemon 40
 
@Moderateur the guy on the left would visit the beach with a shirt on, the guy on the right advertises ;)
 
@rlemon Looking forward to the results :)
 
12:22 PM
@FlorianMargaine I said 20, but I don't plan on stopping afterwards
but seriously, I fucked my neck after yesterdays workout
 
@rlemon ohh that's reasonable at least :p
 
@rlemon Sounds like tomorrow's gonna be a leg day :P
 
@monners standing desk === every day is leg day
 
!!afk trying some AK gun shooting in basement
 
@rlemon Soft.
 
12:24 PM
I know I am, that is why i'm working out
:D
@monners you should get in on the workout with us
you are only 3 days behind
 
@rlemon lol, I already work out four days a week and ride ~200kms :P
 
mhm, excuses excuses u wot m8? I swear on me mum I'll come down there and give you a good smak in yer face!
 
jQuery animte with scrollTop
 
@rlemon Your mother's dead.
 
I can hardly do my workout stuff right now, I have no weights here, and no shoes aside from flip flops
 
12:28 PM
no, she's a hamster
and my father smelled of elderberries
if you really must know
 
I fart in your general direction
 
excuses, excuses everywhere !
 
@jAndy talk to the people not logging in every day
 
Hey, I still do what I can
 
@jAndy Talk to me when you can hold a planche for 30 seconds :P
 
12:29 PM
@BenCraig you yourself are a decent amount of weight
 
@JanDvorak decent weight !== in shape
 
@monners video or it didn't happen
 
listen to him :P
 
I don't need motivation
 
besides, I want to look like jAndy too
 
12:31 PM
> We're in a giant car heading towards a brick wall and everyone's arguing over where they're going to sit.
 
jFattie -> jAdonis was all the motivation I needed
 
$("#someDiv").animate({
            scrollTop: $("tr[data-id=5]").offset().top
        }, 20);
it's not really scrolling to the desired row :/
desired row is always a little bit up and not visible on the page
 
So just add some pixels
 
@CustomizedName different offset parent?
 
likely an absolute position navbar is the problem
it is scrolling to the correct position, but you are covering it?
 
12:32 PM
or that^
 
^ more commonly the case
 
@rlemon someDiv has another div which has attribute display:none;
@monners how can I do that - api.jquery.com/animate
 
style rule*
$("#someDiv").animate({
            scrollTop: $("tr[data-id=5]").offset().top +- whateverMakesItWork
        }, 20);
 
ta, gonna try
 
12:36 PM
@Qantas94Heavy what should we close?
 
@JanDvorak: oh, oops :p
 
people are terrible.
 
:(
 
Ell
wut
I read the rules :O
 
@Ell doesn't mean your post wasn't crap
 
12:46 PM
i think saying pandas and cats are bad species is less crappier than saying people are terrible.
 
How so?
Pandas don't mass murder, nor do cats, do they?
 
cats are jerks
but I can forgive them
 
Cats are there to be served and they want to make it clear to humans.
 
ever see a cat catch a mouse, yea, it isn't dead fast -- it is a toy for an hour until the cat gets bored
 
@Magikaas where did mass murder come in between?
 
12:47 PM
then it is a trophy
 
@AwalGarg Why else are humans terrible?
 
@Magikaas we made Rebecca Black popular
 
I guess I might as well change it to just murder, or needlessly harm
@rlemon Good point as well, neither pandas nor cats did that
 
@Magikaas that is an exaggerated generalization. Not every human you see is involved in a mass murder.
 
@AwalGarg But NONE of the pandas or cats are
 
12:49 PM
@Magikaas they are bad in some other way.
 
@Magikaas you didn't hear of Pandtler
 
The fact humans do it (even if only a few) against zero pandas or cats
 
or Kitler
 
Humans do a lot of good things too, like cleaning their house. Neither pandas, nor cats do that.
 
Hahaha
 
12:50 PM
couldn't find a panda pic
 
A friend of mine has a Kitler :P
 
@AwalGarg my cat can clean his own butthole without TP
3
I'd say they are the superior species
 
Can YOU clean your own butthole without using your hands or feet?
 
can you with your feet?!?!
 
@rlemon Not to me atleast. Not sure about you though...
 
12:51 PM
jesus that is equally impressive
 
I'm sure there are people out there that can do that
I can't imagine noone has ever tried it
With what I've seen online
 
sigh... opens google...
 
Hahahaha
 
@rlemon how does google look like from inside?
 
12:53 PM
so much white space wasted.
 
why would I want clutter on my search engine homepage?
a) slower load, b) more bandwidth, c) ugly
 
d) no whitespace wastage
 
That better? :P
 
minimal !== wasting whitespace
if there was a lot of content on one area, and large blank areas, that is a waste of space
this is just a minimal page on a 24" monitor
 
(!minimal) !== clutter
 
12:55 PM
You don't waste space that's not needed anyway
 
> Webflow is the top drag-and-drop website builder for designing custom, professional websites without code.
nope
 
oxymoron^
 
if a website is without code, wouldn't it be... blank?
 
@AwalGarg he's talking about designer tools
fontpage/dw/etc
 
12:57 PM
kk
 
there is code, you just don't write it
 
s/\//\/msWord\//
 
> Instead of handing over a PSD file to have it converted into a real website, now with Webflow you can implement your custom, responsive website designs on your own. Plus, you have pixel-perfect control over every detail of your design without having to muck around with code.
 
Oi @rlemon may i ask you a question ?
 
fuck that site -- this is exactly what we don't want.
 
12:58 PM
not code but business related ?
 
we want designers designing, and developers developing
 
@rlemon "responsive ... pixel-pelfect" lies
 
@rlemon irony is its like #2 place to show off jQuery plugins
 
I want an After Effects style (front-end) code builder. Layers, effects, extensions, etc.
 
I want my neck to stop hurting
but sometimes life doesn't deal us the cards we want
 
12:59 PM
@rlemon would u be happy paying $0.99 / mo if i sync all your photos to all your devices (without filling the ass out of those devices ) and allow u to search them with the sexy search we have ?
 

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