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1:00 PM
@dystroy Does the server scrape the entire page, then?
 
@Kippie This I can't tell... I can't see the server side sources...
I only looked at what the server sends
 
@dystroy Ah. I think you said bot when you meant chat
How chat handles oneboxing
 
yes
 
Does anyone know of data binding libraries/frameworks other than, Ember, Angular, Knockout, Rivets, Ractive?
 
node/vps hosts that give me pretty much open access to do anything
suggestions... go!
 
1:15 PM
AWS
 
@OctavianDamiean o/
 
@GNi33 \o
 
how are you doing? long time no see
 
1:18 PM
dedicated for $50 a month
that is nice
@dystroy do you use OVH?
 
@rlemon yes
 
cloud or dedicated?
 
dedicated server
 
@GNi33 Fine. My usual day look like this. 1. Wake up, 2. Eat something, 3. Start working, 4. play EVE Online, 5. Sleep, 6. Rinse and repeat.
 
no complaints?
 
1:19 PM
@rlemon not one. No reboot in first 3 years
 
eve online, was that this massive multiplayer space - thingy that used WebGL on their website to display ship models?
 
cool, cool
 
@rlemon They're also the hosting company who refused the French government request to remove wikileaks from their servers
(twas interesting to see their mail reports on this)
 
ugh.
Setup fees:$69.00 CAD on placing your order (per server)
$14.00 CAD /month for 6 months
I hate that shit
just put it in the base price and don't sneak in charges
 
1:22 PM
Well, there is an installation cost obviously
 
Wikileaks.. everyone thinks it's a great idea, so long as it's not on their hands
 
@Rossco Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
yes but don't hide those costs way down on a page three clicks in
 
It depends on the offer. I don't really know their current catalog. The server I rent had only a recurrent (high) cost and free domains and stuff.
 
user2509223
1:25 PM
fighting with mandrill
 
@OctavianDamiean for that price ovh has a dedicated server with about the same characteristics. But I never tried their entry level servers.
 
user2509223
 
Right, but there's no real point in having a dedicated server if you just need a test environment.
 
@OctavianDamiean I don't think anybody here should not have a real server... we build stuff, it's stupid not to have a server to host that
 
Well I have a server, it is a VPS though.
Worked out for over a year now, no issues so far. ;)
 
user2509223
1:29 PM
eh for testing then rather just a raspberry in the corner
 
I had a VPS once. It wasn't worth the money for what I put on it.
 
porn
this is for work.
 
It's even worse if you have a dedi.
Oh well then.
 
mostly going to be hit from people in the USA
 
1:31 PM
Yea, if it is for work then you might want to find a US based server.
 
@allenwang Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
my concern is that we will be doing ssh tunneling and lots of proxying
 
user2509223
unless you are freelancer you shouldnt have your own server, cause yur company should, if you are freelancer you should have a small one for dev, but you should never put prod sites on your own network, they better off to a VPS somewhere in the cloud
 
GoDaddy is a bitch on my VPS when attempting to do this stuff.
 
god dammit
 
1:32 PM
is that normal?
will most other hosts be a PITA with that kinda stuff?
@derylius that is bad advice.
I am not a freelancer, and I have my own servers because I want to put my code online :P
 
user1596138
@dystroy Any experience with them?
 
Don't use GoDaddy
Problem solved.
 
user1596138
 
thanks tips. you really saved me there.
 
DigitalOcean have 5$ for vps :P
Glad I could help :D
 
1:34 PM
now anyone besides Benji have a real suggestion?
 
user2509223
@rlemon your own code? you must be really important then ;D
 
keep throwing em at me, I like options
@derylius I am
 
@Jhawins Yes, they're the host of the dedicated server where you find all my applications (among them miaou). I never had a problem.
(but I pay a lot for a big dedicated server)
 
I was hoping to get in around the $50/mo for a server
 
user2509223
@rlemon but its on the cloud or you are hosting it from home ADSL through dynDNS?
 
user1596138
1:35 PM
DigitalOcean is hiring. Get a job and then ask for a free server.
 
We use Azure
 
:(
you people suck. (@dystroy not you, your suggestion was nice)
 
@derylius the cloud is bad ...
 
@OctavianDamiean mmmk... don't do cloud
 
@rlemon everyone in France uses OVH
 
user1596138
 
user1596138
Needs closed..
 
@FlorianMargaine It's true that I have a few friends on OVH (with VPS, not dedicated)
 
they have a very tech-oriented support, and their interface is ugly, but their servers are good
 
user2509223
@OctavianDamiean especially when its raining, i know...
 
@dystroy anyone I know that pays for servers uses OVH
 
1:38 PM
Isn't OVH pretty expensive compared to hetzner?
 
every company I've worked with too
my company uses hundreds of OVH servers
another company I worked with did the same
 
not bad, 117ms ping to your website @dystroy
 
@Kippie I don't know, you can start with a dedicated at 8€ per month at ovh but you have a very small server then
 
my previous company had a few servers at them
I don't know any other french hosting company tbh :\
 
@dystroy Yeah, I've heard from people that used OVH that their smallest servers also have a pretty bad performance compared to the bigger range
 
1:39 PM
I was hoping for an American hosting company (considering the intended audience)
 
@Kippie when you buy the smallest possible celeron, it's bound to be slow
 
hrm, but OVH has servers in Montreal
that is nice and close
 
what I was about to say ^
@rlemon they're the ones who did that video youtube.com/watch?v=poFZQQmv9l4
you can see they're totally geek
 
user1596138
Sometimes I read read as read when it's actually supposed to be read as read, then I reread read as read instead of reading read as read.
 
1:42 PM
@Jhawins you alright mate?
 
@OctavianDamiean probably time to sleep
 
user1596138
The opposite of time for sleep. Time for coffee
 
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Q: Clean way of keeping an aggregate of a sequence of Q.all promises

JoelKuiperI would like to maintain an aggregate of intermediate results when executing a series of Q.all tasks. Concretely the problem is as follows: var Obj = function(first, second) { return { stuff: first, nextStuff: Q.fcall(function() { return second; }) } }; ...

 
What coder has his hands like this on the keyboard ? soyoustart.com/us
 
More importantly, why is there Lego on the desk?
 
1:46 PM
Better than this:
!!youtube two idiots one keyboard
 
likely what i'll go with
 
@OctavianDamiean Must be Steve
 
doesn't seem expensive for what it is
 
1:49 PM
in C#, Mar 13 at 17:29, by Steve
and wtf am i going to do w/ like these 2,000 legos on my desk, idk lol
 
32GB of RAM et al
 
@OctavianDamiean you do know the first Google server had a case built in lego ? This guy probably tried to emulate them and gave up and then went to ovh looking for a ready to use server
 
Why wouldn't there be Lego on the desk?
If I had Lego, there's a good chance they would be on my desk.
 
1:55 PM
@RyanKinal I was thinking the same. I have a tub of playdoh on mine.
 
Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS or 13.10 ???
 
of course
 
<aside> If a promise (Q-style) is resolved/rejected before .then is called, the appropriate function passed to .then will be executed, right? </aside>
 
@OctavianDamiean I'm just like "ugh, so close to 14.04 LTS"
but I can't wait.
 
1:58 PM
Yea but non-LTS on servers generally means headaches.
 
@dystroy @FlorianMargaine are they okay about re-provisioning later with a new OS?
 
@rlemon yeah, it's just a few clicks
 
@rlemon yes
 
sweet
 
they format your hard drive though
 
1:59 PM
I recently did that for my server
What I don't know is how to upgrade the hardware, though
 
Contact the support.
 
I'm not sure they allow it
 

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