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user2620028
7:00 PM
Rear wheel drive is always better
 
@PiotrWójcik I think that in the context of that article, AWD would be more difficult to set up to begin with, but may be more easily maintained if you chose that from the start whereas RWD you may have to download all assets even if you're not using them, and then just use a subselection of them as pertains to the current device constraints
@PiotrWójcik I think generally if a site has a "mobile site" they use AWD, not responsive. Not sure.
 
@HatterisMad It's usually more fun, although I do love my AWD. Especially BMW's old purely-mechanical AWD.
 
@FlorianMargaine Is that lisp?
 
@HatterisMad Says the guy who races exclusively in sprint cars
 
Living here, AWD is nice for those days when you wake up to 2ft of snow.
 
user1596138
7:05 PM
@HatterisMad rear wheel drive is worse by default lol in what scenario is less power to the ground better?
 
@someDoge RWD is almost always faster off the line, because of weight transfer.
 
user1596138
Except when the rules say RWD only in your race hahahaha
 
user1596138
@ssube No.
 
Without torque vectoring, it can also be faster in turns as it gives you two steering points.
@someDoge Yes, yes it is.
 
user2620028
@someDoge how the hell is RWD less power to the ground, maybe less friction to the ground but when is that ALWAYS a bad thing. That can be used skillfully in ways a FWD would suck.... or probably just be boring.
 
user1596138
7:07 PM
@ssube What do the faster cars in the world use
 
user1596138
Drag cars don't count, they add double the contact patch in tire width anyway lol
 
so today was pretty much a wash
they installed new patio doors for me... in -10 weather + snowing
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad Less traction === less ability to transfer power, to the ground :P
 
@someDoge Faster off the line? RWD, every time.
 
so an hour and a half with a gaping hole in my wall. nice.
2pm and I just got to work
 
user1596138
7:08 PM
@ssube Every time. Good argument.
 
user2620028
@someDoge which is what i just said, less friction not less power to the wheels
 
I like how the conversation changed from Adaptive Web Design to All Wheel Drive
 
user1596138
Most widely known "fastest car in the world" would be the Bugatti Veyron right? What drive model.
 
Launching with AWD, you lose most of the power sent to the front wheels.
Most fast sports cars are AWD, but they aren't meant for launching.
 
user2620028
@rlemon You got mad and punched a hole in the house?
 
user1596138
7:09 PM
I'm not so much arguing the drive models but your bull headed assumption
 
(which is why they have launch control, among other things)
 
1 min ago, by rlemon
they installed new patio doors for me... in -10 weather + snowing
 
user1596138
Rear wheel drive cars use launch control..
 
Is it weird of me to want to experience being snowed in?
 
user2620028
Oh i totally didnt see you post anything in this ruckus lol
 
7:10 PM
MY car is reasonably quick, but the AWD shows when you're trying to come off the line quickly without a rolling start.
 
user1596138
Ugh. You are joking
 
user1596138
Read up on the pros of 4WD or AWD... One of the main pros is going to be a faster start off the line, where you are already at the bleeding edge of traction abilities.
 
All this and I still have no idea how to buy my new mattress.
 
user1596138
I don't really care to discuss this lol but what you've said is just so.. Wrong.
 
@MetroidFan2002 I find mattress stores to be the best place to do this.
 
7:12 PM
For awd
@PiotrWójcik
 
@someDoge It's not a reputable source, but this explanation is pretty good.
You start with more surface to move, then weight goes back, and it takes a second for the diff to send power to the back, so you lose that power briefly.
Plus the additional weight AWD generally has, you launch somewhat more slowly than a RWD car (we're talking 5.4 to 60 vs 5.2 to 60, but still...)
 
user1596138
@ssube Oh of course there's that. I'm not talking about your run of the mill AWD eclipse that has 3 wide open diffs
 
user1596138
(Idk what they actually have but they are shit and you know what I mean lol)
 
user2620028
The other point to keep in mind @someDoge They have quite a bit slower revving engine in the AWD due to the extra spinning driveshaft, extra resistance caused by another driveline connected to the road. That extra friction is not always a good thing if you do not have a beast of an engine an AWD off the line would be bad if it gripped
 
I don't remember what kind of diff the eclipse has, actually.
 
user1596138
7:17 PM
If you have the power to actually use all that grip you will be faster. Yes though in 2 identical cars one with AWD and one without the without would be better.
 
I do know that you can still tell the AWD cost in my car, which has active diffs in the center and rear.
 
@Shmiddty WHAT?! Why do we have a chatroom for this then? ;)
 
Having driven RWD and AWD e30s, the RWD launches noticeably faster.
 
user1596138
Of course
 
user1596138
That's fair
 
7:18 PM
I would never trade my ix for the es, but it is quicker off the line.
 
user1596138
2WD does not make your car faster than any AWD car though. Ha
 
user1596138
11 mins ago, by ssube
@someDoge Faster off the line? RWD, every time.
 
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user1596138
I'll put my truck in 2WD (ooh 2WD Low) and you put your car in AWD and I guess I'll win
 
Faster from a standstill? It does.
Two otherwise identical cars, the AWD will be slower off the line.
 
7:19 PM
@rlemon But.....where will I go to find out about mattresses?!
 
@SterlingArcher what was it about Java?
 
user1596138
Of course lol
 
Around turns or in almost any other situation, AWD is better.
 
user1596138
Well it still depends
 
user1596138
Maybe the RWD one has an open diff in the back
 
user1596138
7:20 PM
1 wheeler peeler
 
Awd is new technology then rwd so awd is now may be little bit promlomatic but may be future will be good because working on servers so removing js work
 
user1596138
you'd be better off using the AWD system if your rear is open diff.
 
@someDoge That would be unfortunate. It's been a while since I drove a car with open diffs, luckily.
 
user2620028
You best be tripping, AWD with traction and a strong enough engine to not get bogged down should win off the line against a just as strong FWD or RWD vehicle
 
@jitu Also, differently sized images i.e. smaller screens could show smaller thumbnails. You could do this through JS as well, but not for inline content.
 
user1596138
7:21 PM
@ssube 90% of the vehicles I drive have open diffs. I want to be on your level, maybe it's just a matter of ignoring senses?
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad Boom. Power to weight ratio lol
 
@someDoge Since I sold my old lancer, just haven't had too.
 
user1596138
I drive 6-7 vehicles throughout a week..
 
user2620028
@someDoge well of course factor in other things that make cars fast :P
 
user1596138
Can someone bin this shit lol
 
user1596138
7:23 PM
Pissing match complete
 
I am winner
Yeah
 
user1596138
Yup
 
Haha
 
user2620028
Everyone is covered in it yaaaayyy
 
One of my housemates has his e30 es, which is hella fun in the snow.
Put your foot down and it just does circles. :p
I believe those are still locking rear diffs, tho (not sure on that0.
 
user1596138
7:26 PM
I believe no (<$80,000) BMW car has ever had locking diffs...
 
not locking, lsd, sorry
the old diffs in the ix were pretty cool, with the viscous stuff (silicon?) to limit them
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum was confused about ambiguous classes and varargs, but ssube and the others explained it
And then went into tangents about shape inheritence
 
I am using the lodash "_.has" but it only returns false even though I can access the property
 
@SterlingArcher Shape inheritance is stupid, no one ever actually had a class animal, and if they did they certainly wouldn't make a dog inherit from it.
Just saying.
Interfaces are much more important to understand than inheritance, inheritance is often a useless pattern, more so in Java 8 with functional interfaces.
 
Does anyone happen to know of a "proper" way to load plugins in nodejs? Say I have module awesome, and other modules can be used as plugins (awesome-plugin-a) when they are installed. Is there some kind of best practice way to let awesome reflect and load awesome-plugin-*?
 
user1596138
7:33 PM
in Motor Vehicle Maintenance and Repair on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Shog9
@BobCross apparently our chat dev just got an iphone like last week. So it may take some time for that to improve.
 
user1596138
Ya know how chat sucks on mobile?
 
Yeah, you'd usually do awesome and awesome/plugin/a and awesome/plugin/b, whenjs for example uses that approach, so do most collection libraries.
@someDoge who're you?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum That would mean that each plugin has to be installed from the same package, right? e.g. npm install awesome would install all the plugins, rather than what I had in mind (e.g. npm install awesome awesome-plugin-a)?
 
Ah, you want to modularize it, gotcha.
They all depend on the parent package right?
 
I <3 iTunes Radio --- and then i see my internet usage.
 
7:36 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Do do not, they implement an interface that can be used from the parent package to do something. Similar to the way you'd set up MEF if you happen to be familiar with it.
 
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum you know who I am :P
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum see his room list?
 
There is no 'idiomatic' way to do that, it's generally just module-a and module-b, like q and q-io and q-http etc.
Jhawins
Why did you name change and pic change?
 
user1596138
That's my dogey
 
!!afk beer
 
user1596138
7:37 PM
Why not?
 
user2620028
lol
 
Jhawins :-(
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Hmm, even if there is no standard way, do you happen to have some advice on it? I was thinking along the lines of doing a npm list and finding modules that match awesome-plugin-* and load them in. It feels wrong in every single way, though..
 
i type your name now as someD <tab>
 
user1596138
I copied @SomeKittens sorta tho sorry
 
7:38 PM
Some "D"
@someDoge ps hangouts :-)
 
SD
 
SomeDork
 
why is our git server so slow today? D:
 
Some Dick ?
 
such packet loss
 
7:40 PM
wow
 
Some duck
 
Some Distributed Server
 
!!youtube dear insanity asking alexandria
 
I love the chorus to this song
 
user2620028
7:41 PM
I love me someD
 
@someDoge, @SomeGuy, @SomeKittens
 
@SomeBro
 
Doge Guy Kittens
DGK
!!urban DGK
 
@darkyen00 DGK Dirty Ghetto Kids. a kick-ass skateboard company.
 
That's a good t-shirt brand
 
user2620028
7:42 PM
thought that looked familiar
 
I see it all the time
 
I knew it, this is a conspiracy.
 
A conspiracy for soft fabric?
 
yes.
programming our brains in background
 
Speaking of conspiracy, where has connerspiracy been all these months?
 
7:43 PM
@Connerspiracy
 
tbh I'm not sure if I spelled it right
e or o
 
Why piracy? Are you pirate
 
user2620028
i love being a pirate
 
YYYYYYYYYYYYYARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
Treat me like a pirate and gimme that tshirt.
 
user2620028
7:45 PM
hey @darkyen00 can i ask you a cultural related question?
 
Mad pirate very dangerous
 
Favorite shirt, shame I can't really wear it to work.
 
shoot
 
user2620028
Is there a common belief or disbelief in Indian cultures in ghosts or paranormal (witches, monsters etc.) or has there been any variances in this in the past? Just curious and i figure you know everything
 
$20 for T-shirt
 
7:47 PM
@HatterisMad common, they are to be scared of.
 
Cheap for pirates
 
$20 for T-shirt oh fuck no
 
totally worth it
 
thats like 10 chinese salary
(rofl)
@ssube dresslink.com and aliexpress.com -- viva la china
 
@darkyen00 it's a very specific shirt, merch for a music label
 
7:48 PM
well then it might be awesome
 
You don't pay $20 for every tshirt, just band ones
It is awesome, linked it up a bit.
 
user2620028
@darkyen00 Good to know....
 
Pirates not buy
You need to stolen this
 
That's true, but we don't have many issues with pirates in the midwest.
(that I know of)
 
user2620028
*yet
 
user2620028
7:50 PM
Pirates will become the new crop disease
 
user2620028
Hangon i have to go spray my fields for pirates.
2
 
This place could go mad max any day, and we'll have to hijack caravans to steal their guzzoline.
 
Ssube pirate of midwest
 
how to show tooltip on hover of twitter typeahead suggestions
 
@SuhasKhulpe Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
7:52 PM
@SuhasKhulpe welcome to pirates land
 
@jitu sir can u answer my question asked above please.
 
@someDoge Breaking my copyright!
@darkyen00 WHAT
 
@SomeKittens you ----- are part of a consipiracy
you didn't know ?
 

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