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12:02 AM
Who knows what the mailman could have done with it....
I'll leave you with that thought.
 
12:22 AM
The possibilities are endless @twiz
nevermind, the possibilties are limited by still being sealed in two boxes and plastic seal.
 
Morning
 
1:28 AM
woot got a new keyboard
gimmicky but neat lol
 
@Loktar Nice! Pimpin.
 
thanks I've been using this saitek one for like 6 years now idk
switched from an IBM model m, miss that mechanical feel
 
I've been wondering about that, I like low-resistance and I think it helps me react faster in games. But more risk of mis-presses
 
Yeah thats a good point I've yet to try it with a game
need to hook it up yet
 
2:00 AM
@Loktar Nice, I was looking at that one before I got my daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-ultimate
 
Yeah that one is pretty fancy
 
No keycap markings! It's fucking awesome. Although it doesn't have a techno soundtrack :(
 
haha
 
did you get the blue or brown switches?
 
this one is smaller than my last one
trying to get used to this...
eh I think they have their own proprietary switches for this
 
2:03 AM
They claim to, but I doubt it
 
yeah
idk if they're browns
whats the lower one?
cherry is the highest right?
blue?
they dont have a ton of resistance so Id guess they were whatever the lowest one is
 
Cherry are all the same height, they just have different actuation
Hmmm, looks like they are custom
 
yea thats what the box says
 
The blues are clicky, the browns are quieter
 
yeah these are pretty clicky
in noise I mean
but resistance is way less than my model m
 
2:05 AM
both feel similar, although the browns require slightly less force to actuate
lol, almost everything will have less resistance than the Model M
 
ill bb.. the drivers want me to restart O.o
 
Gotta love those buckling springs
 
yea best keyboard ever for sure
id still use the model m if it had a windows key
thats the only reason I stopped
I use it on my 486 now
 
IBM practically invented the modern keyboard with that model
The thing I'm still getting used to is the slightly longer spacebar. I used to use my thumb for the Command key (Mac), which is much more difficult with the longer spacebar. Trying to get used to using my left middle finger instead
@Loktar keybr.com
Multiping!
 
haha
yeah I never learned the proper way to type
 
2:21 AM
It's worth doing
Takes about two weeks
I've been toying with the idea of learning to use Dvorak
 
2:38 AM
I need a keyboard cover..
these keys show oil badly
 
Or you could just wash you hands :P
 
lol I knew that was coming
Ill just blame my kids I was letting them mess with it for a few mins
 
2:53 AM
So what can you do with it in terms of the lights?
Does it light up individual keys when you type?
 
 
2 hours later…
4:38 AM
goood morrninngg!
 
Hi
 
7 hours ago, by Zirak
Where is your god now!?
roflmao
I would just love to say this to @m59
 
4:58 AM
@monners yeah
thats one of the cool effects
they light up and slowly fade out
 
5:17 AM
It may serve absolutely zero functional purpose, but I want one :P
 
5:29 AM
Anybody ever seen a computer solve a puzzle like this :
This is my daughters dads sons daughter - [ simplified to : my grand daughter ]
 
Sounds like something that IBM's Watson could do
 
@monners WATSON is an overkill
this is simple tree traversal, as i see it.
and some nlp.
a simple tokenizer with stop word remover will do my daughter dad son daughter
starting from me we can add a childNode daughter another parentNode for daughter as DAD then another son for dad and son and daughter
the hard step is :-/ reduce :-x
how to figure out daugthers - dad is husband ?
if the parents link to same child then they are married ?
if that assumption is made .. we can remove the daughter node and father node and replace that with just wife node and boom
 
m59
5:45 AM
@AwalGarg everywhere ;D
 
@m59 oh really! mind giving him a message from me?
 
@darkyen00 The hard part is "my daughter's dad" is ambiguous, but "my daughter's dad's son" is not. Perhaps an NFA would be useful.
 
@m59 btw, he can't be everywhere because of one of the conclusions of Pauli's Exclusion principle...
 
6:00 AM
@AwalGarg Pauli's Exclusion Principle deals with fermions. God is not a fermion.
 
m59
@AwalGarg that's poor reasoning, and He knows your thoughts, so He has the message.
 
@KendallFrey (shhhhhh....)
 
m59
Also, principles need logic and you never gave me a defense of that ;D (and a defense for why anyone should care even then)
 
I am still looking for the kind of "defense" you asked... I am sure there would be one.
Just that I don't know of one.
@m59 ok come there if you have time now
 
@KendallFrey sometimes i miss pro-log so much
this would off been such a simple finite case automata in prolog :3
though writing it is ... shooting myself in head but :D
 
@rlemon no, but I wish it was
 
7:11 AM
and for the 100th time I wrote <link src=... instead of <link href=...
 
@towc Don't you use emmet?
 
let me take a look
 
in sublime, link <tab> would do the thing for you
 
What editor do you use?
 
with emmet, the best thing I like is !<tab>
 
7:12 AM
@monners oh, that! I really don't like it for some reason
@monners brackets
 
Suit yourself, but one of the primary tenants of programming is that anything that isn't automated is prone to human error
 
@towc and there is <script href=... too ;p
 
Today I switched to Atom. Took a lot of setting up, but I reckon it's the way forward
 
doesn't looks watsony so far
though yes the tree generation looks like crap
 
@darkyen00 Why are you building this out of interest?
 
7:17 AM
@monners i suck at solving them manually
 
lol, is that something you've got to do often? :P
 
yes :-(
 
@monners good sentence. Anyway, in most of my projects nothing seems to be too repetitive, so I don't think I need it for now
 
plus it would be sort of cool to have notifications from "named" family members ... and somehow automate finding those bastards
 
@towc It's just a tool. Honestly, I work with a few people that insist on typing everything out themselves. I just don't get why someone'd wanna do that (unless they had a keyboard that paid them per keystroke)
 
7:19 AM
other part of code i am working at is
 
@darkyen00 is this about some family tree?
 
github.com/darkyen/otp-auth and this is awesome :D
@AwalGarg yeap
just wanna see if i can do it
 
hmm, good planning bro.
;p
 
@AwalGarg you know the pain dude
this is your brothers uncles dads daughters uncles mothers .. ..... son , say hi to him
@AwalGarg ^
 
lol yes
 
7:21 AM
For 15 - 17 seconds i am like okay so what is he !
 
relatives come to home and parents give a kick, "go and touch their feet"
 
and dividing by ages don't help :-( I'd call everyone +- 10 my age brother / sister, > +10 my age uncle / aunt and < -10 my age nephew niece
 
so many relations in India
 
but hell that would cause issues -_-, cause the guy my age is somehow my nephew
 
call everyone by name ;p
 
7:22 AM
not helpful, calling by lastname is an offense. calling by first name my brian thinks i ain't know them enough.
 
call everyone by their mobile number
 
@AwalGarg what an idea sirji !
 
xD
@darkyen00 you watch too much TV dude :P
 
@AwalGarg haha i don't
i watch lot of youtube
 
I know, j/k
 
7:24 AM
how lot
:P
 
24/7 its streaming
 
whats playin now
 
I tried that one day for an hour (maybe cus of you) and there was so much crapp! I wasted an hour. I wanted to punch you that day, I assure.
 
celldweller switchback
 
Sep 24 at 7:25, by Awal Garg
I spent just like half an hour clicking random vids... hell lotta dick in there.
Sep 24 at 7:24, by Awal Garg
I am never, ever going on Youtube again.
Sep 24 at 7:25, by Awal Garg
The crappiest collection of crap in there.
Sep 24 at 7:27, by Awal Garg
I wanna punch Abhishek Hingnikar right now
^ see that?
such a pathetic day that was
 
7:27 AM
@AwalGarg why so punchious ?
 
because I saw really crazy mind boggling and disturbing things
 
like ?
 
I wish I hadn't seen that
I can't say that in here
 
say it dude
 
ahem nooo
 
7:30 AM
or type on pastebin and add the tag nsfw to the link
 
I don't wanna think of that
there were some social experiment vids which went too far
and they were linked to one of the video you shared, so I got furious lol
 
7:56 AM
@AwalGarg :P
sad world ain't it ?
you guys can start biting now
 
8:12 AM
@darkyen00 You're not the same user that your avatar is taken from, right?
 
@monners why so ?
 
Personal interest?
 
@monners i am
 
Oh, ok. Cool! Didn't get the memo
@darkyen00 So what's up? How ya doin'?
 
@monners doing good. writing libs for the world :-)
 
8:15 AM
Libraries, eh? I can't even write a single book
2
 
@monners lol
 
That was pretty good!
 
Thanks, I'm here all week!
@mikedidthis When you start on a new design, what's the first thing you start working on?
 
@monners the design?
Sorry. I usually sketch how the layout is going to work.
 
lol, thanks. That was a little more helpful :P
 
8:22 AM
Then I start designing a comp and the style guide. If I am stuck on the comp, I work on the style guide.
 
So layout before styleguide?
 
Yeah. They are unrelated, but it helps set some limits for the ui elements.
 
I don't really have an opinion either way, just interested in where designers start.
In terms of interface design
Obviously thought goes into a product before that point is reached :P
 
Yeah, sadly. :D
 
is it illegal to redeclare a variable with the var keyword? Not that it doesn't work as expected but is it advised/good practice?
 
8:27 AM
As in use the same variable name in a nested scope?
 
var myVariable = "myValue";
.....some more code
var myVariable = "someOtherValue"; //rewriting the variable but with the var keyword
@monners ^this
 
its redundant and also confusing.
 
I don't know exactly but;
1. Why would you ever need to do that, and
2. That probably introduces all kinds of variable hoisting issues
 
3. It doesn't show the true point where the variable was created.
 
because myVariable is initially generated by an external api over which I don't have any control, it might be generated, it might not.
 
8:31 AM
Right. There's a reason we declare all of our variables at the top of the scope in JavaScript
Then test it
 
I know I can check via myVar===undefined
 
var myVar = myVariable || '';
 
@monners but then there would be two variables, myVar and myVariable
 
myVariable = "someOtherValue";
 
Not if myVariable doesn't exist, in which case myVar just becomes an empty string
 
8:33 AM
@monners but I want to keep the name of that "myVar" variable the same as the original.
@mikedidthis but if the api hadn't generated that value, JS lint would cause problems ;(
 
Sounds like your approach is wrong. I don't know why that'd be an issue.
 
XY problem.
@AwalGarg but what is carrying the new value?
 
Either myVariable has a truthy (read: useful) value or it doesn't. Either way, easy to test and assign
 
//this is my present code
if (myVar === undefined){
   var myVar = "myValue";
}
else {
   myVar = "myValue";
}
 
how is the api send you the new value?
 
8:37 AM
but I saw that it can be shortened to var myVar = "myValue"
 
Looks like you're testing against a parameter that's been passed into a function, correct?
function foo (bar) {
    var bar = bar || 'the argument is undefined, so this local variable is now a string of the same name';
}
 
@monners yes correct
 
Probably best not to try and overwrite the argument. Just assign it as a local variable and use that. Not sure whether argument reassignment passes back out of the function (and I can't be bothered to test it)
 
@monners hmm that works. Can you explain me why that same code doesn't work if it is not wrapped in a function and bar is not defined?
 
Because it's testing against an argument of that function. It should still work though, it'll just assign the variable bar to that string in whatever scope it's in
Because, obviously, bar is undefined at the time of assignment (unless this is some weird edgecase where everyone else in the room is going to tell me I'm stupid :P )
!!> var foo = blerg || "blerg doesn't exist!"; console.log(foo);
 
8:44 AM
@monners "ReferenceError: blerg is not defined"
 
yeah this is the error I get
but it works if wrapped in the function
 
Hmmm, don't know.
Maybe there are assumptions being made about arguments within a function that avoids that issue (by assigning undefined to the argument maybe?)
 
i kinda hate my employee atm
 
My guess is that by declaring the arguments in the function declaration, they no longer remain undefined even if we don't pass the argument.
 
she committed our auth keys to the repo
idiot.
 
8:46 AM
@darkyen00 That's a crime punishable by shame!
 
@mikedidthis new avatar.
@monners github.com/darkyen/otp-auth/commit/… the commit to remove it all
 
@darkyen00 you hired from MP itself?
 
@AwalGarg from college itself.
she was an intern and was most productive in the team. :$ so kinda had to give her a solid place.
 
@darkyen00 hahaha, keep expecting such things then :D
 
@AwalGarg nope shes smart :-)
 
8:49 AM
nice :D
 
@darkyen00 We all make mistakes. The test is whether she can learn from them. If so, she's definitely a keeper
 
yeap.
confession : I didn't knew mac's copy paste sucks ass, destroyed my project because i didn't commit earlier and tried to copy paste some other thing into it.
 
I've only ever made a production-breaking mistake that got through to live once. Let me tell ya, I'll never make that mistake again!
@darkyen00 What do ya mean?
What sucks about it?
 
@monners if two folders are same name it merges ... as in over-writes
 
Ummm, but it prompts you first
 
8:51 AM
i expected windows like thing
where it renames and keeps them both.
 
Although, yeah, it'd be nice if it just copied and appended copy to the end
I tend to avoid Finder whenever possible.
 
since then... i commit every time i write something that works
@monners same.
terminal ftw.
 
And spotlight, and Alfred
 
atleast you explictely know you are going to cut your penis off if you mess up
 
lol, it still doesn't warn you until you're in the emergency room with a Tupperware full of penis
 
8:53 AM
lol
 
I love how out of control the analogies get in this room.
 
!!s/how out of control the analogies get in//
 
@darkyen00 I love this room. (source)
3
 
Bam! Stars cancelled!
Why? Because I'm an asshole :P
3
 
@monners beat that
 
8:57 AM
Nah, I'm over it
 
9:16 AM
@darkyen00 What editor do you use, Sublime?
 
@monners yeap
 
Tried Atom?
 
I tried Atom, I still like Sublime more... maybe I need to change the theme or something.
 
@monners yeah, went back to Sublime :D
 
There's a whole lot of stuff ya need to install (packages) to get Atom near the level of Sublime
 
9:19 AM
I don't really have that much installed on either.
 
It's gotten a lot better recently
 
I had to install a few things to get back the git features on Sublime.
Atom is too alpha for daily use imo.
 
When was the last time you used it?
 
sublime has clipboard history
 
Yesterday, I still have it installed on my mbp.
On Windows, about two weeks ago. I found the windows version suffered more than the os x version.
 
9:22 AM
explains.
 
Most of the FEDs in my office have switched, and some of their setups are pretty sweet. So I spent most of today trying to get it to an equivalent level of sublime so I could attempt a switch
Yeah, the Windows version kinda sucks
 
Also, dat load time..
 
And it definitely struggles on my 2011 iMac
 
Sublime is almost instant.
 
@mikedidthis sublime is as fast as notepad
which is very surprizing
 
9:24 AM
atom is free and open source
 
yep. The only thing I miss from Atom is how easy it is to change things in the UI.
 
@mikedidthis That's why I'm giving it a second go. I'd really like to fix some shit I don't like in my editor
 
What is the proper http error code for "ALREADY SENT please wait X seconds" ?
 
anyone worked with equation in MS Word here?

I have a numbered bullet followed by an equation on the next line as this: http://s7.postimg.org/8otgm3au3/image.png

When I go to start of the equation and hit backspace to bring it in front of bullet, equation formatting changes to occupy in single line like this: http://s29.postimg.org/xhdqp3hzb/image.png

How can I have full / non collapsed version of the equation in from of a bullet?
 
9:31 AM
Ok, I think that takes the cake for most out-of-room-context question asked since I've been here.
 
yess
sorry for such out of context question
 
No idea, I use Pages on OS X
Actually no, I use plaintext editors :P
Actually I use Morse code on a Raspberry Pi
 
where should I post this question
definitely not stackoverflow stuff
since no code involved
 
Dunno, Microsoft forums?
 
@rlemon changed invaders' AI and added quite a bit more stuff, now it's definitely more action based towc.eu/game/invaders
 
9:33 AM
will end up with down votes
 
still have to tweak a few things
 
yeah but they are not active as SOF
:'p
 
now going to town to buy a few books, I'll brb
 
stackoverflow should have one out of stackoverflow question tag too
 
@towc Did you write that all yourself? Looks awesome
 
9:35 AM
cause this community is really sexy to answer many thing
not just the code
 
That's why there are other Stack Exchange communities
 
I know... may b superuser may b helpful for this question
 
Superuser might work. Dunno
Or, you know, the help docs
 
@monners yeah, writing a sublime theme looks like a pita.
 
/* is */
 
9:44 AM
I wanted to say is, but I haven't tried, just looked.
 
i tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end i gave up
 
I would love to make one, as I really love this Atom theme: atom.io/themes/neutron-ui
 
There's a sublime package that lets you depackage themes which makes it a little less impossible, but it's still not as sexy as being able to open a stylesheet and insert class-based style attributes
 
It's emacs so irrelephant to you, but how'd you like this theme? github.com/emacsfodder/emacs-soothe-theme
At first its use of background colours seemed off, but I grew to like it
 
@Zirak nice, reminds me of a previous fav: colorsublime.com/theme/TronLegacy
 
9:49 AM
@Zirak insert sexual innuendo
Wish I'd started with Emacs, but now I'm just too heavily invested in stand-alone editors
 
@monners insert blunt and dim-witted insult
 
@Zirak insert reference to last night's... ahem... insertions
 
@monners whadya mean?
 
I mean I know how to use Sublime and, to a lesser extent Atom, well! To switch would be a pretty major investment in terms of getting back to my current level of productivity
Plus, I'm already re-teaching myself how to type properly (don't tell my employers!)
 
That makes sense. I nearly never try new editors/environments/etc at work, only on hobby projects, that way it can grow on you at your own time.
Both meanings of "your own time"
 
9:55 AM
Yeah, but with something as fundamental as an editor there's that massive tradeoff between doing what you want to do in your own time and doing what you now need to do in order to do what you want to in your own time.
lol, that being said, I'm still toying with the idea of switching to Dvorak
 
Then add "learn shit" to "stuff to do on own time" list if it's important
 
I've got shit covered. It's stuff I'm worried about :P
@Zirak @darkyen00 @mikedidthis TS?
 
Sorry, got stuff to do
 
@monners would love to, but the woman is hoovering and I can't even here my self think.
 
Sorry no microphone
 
9:58 AM
haha, buuuurned
 
return rejection * 3;
4
 
Lemme write to South America, maybe they'd be willing to trade timezones with Australia
 

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