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3:00 PM
I'm faster ;)
 
hm, I got kicked for a minute
but there was no explanation
shouldn't there be one?
 
who kicked Zigi?
seriously.
 
@Shog9 o/
 
@ziGi sure there is. Otherwise you wouldn't have known you'd been kicked.
 
@rlemon not me
 
3:01 PM
Does anyone have an idea how you can label a class when you do unsupervised machine learning, basically how do you get the group properties that define it as such?
 
@Owners if you kick someone vocalize it -- otherwise we might need to purge owners to a more responsible list.
@SecondRikudo @Jhawins did either of you just kick him?
 
The Purge: JavaScript
 
@Shog9 well it tells me I am not on topic and the topic is SheepHeardingJS
 
I SMELL A SEQUELLLLLL
 
@rlemon Nope.
 
3:02 PM
hahaha, the second movie was better imo
 
@ziGi do you like screamo and dubstep?
 
yes, you have asked me before
 
I found a song that has a crazy awesome mix you might like
Oh sorry
I'll just post it
 
Anyway, the reason was: "testicle depilation with a depilator"
5
 
yes we have quite the similar taste in music
 
3:02 PM
I don't know what that's about
 
@rlemon Do I misunderstand the ~ operator or something? jsfiddle.net/9wp7tybn/1
 
or the nose hair discussion that preceded it
 
@RoomOwners: can we make a rule that if you kick someone you vocalize it? it is not something to be taken lightly.
15
 
@Shog9 I see, we were discussing painful ways
 
@Shog9 Wait, was it the first time he got kicked already? Or did you just pop by for fun
 
3:03 PM
but it clearly had nothing to do with sheep herding
 
@Shog9 ... I cant even. xD
 
it was not aimed to anyone
 
That's so funny
 
@AwalGarg yes
 
I mean, JavaScript
 
3:03 PM
[attr~=value]
Represents an element with an attribute name of attr whose value is a whitespace-separated list of words, one of which is exactly "value".
 
true, true,
 
ok, I agree
 
skip to 1:00
so fucking badass
their keyboard guy is wild
 
!!mdn css operators
 
3:03 PM
@AwalGarg You iz in mindjail
 
@rlemon Agreed
 
crap
 
!!unban AwalGarg
 
@rlemon AwalGarg freed from mindjail!
 
!!tell Awak mdn css operators
lol Awak
!!undo
 
3:04 PM
I think it was selectors lol
 
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@SterlingArcher Sounds all fine and dandy at first, but then you realize that we've doubled the population in the last 50 years with no signs of slowing down. Working hard to live is a thing of the past, there soon won't be work.
 
there's always work
 
@Shog9, so basically I didn't see that as a reason when I got kicked, shouldn't the kick show for which thing someone gets kicked?
 
depending on your definition of "work"
 
@Jhawins " with no signs of slowing down." actually there is
 
3:05 PM
@Jhawins that's what happens when a population becomes too populated
 
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@rlemon The population estimates were just updated and have us pushing out even further
 
@ziGi probably. I'm still waking up, so my typing is pretty slow
 
@rlemon are*
 
@Jhawins yes, but our rate of growth is slowing down for the first time
 
Humans reproduce at an extraordinary rate for mammals, and combined with our life span continuously increasing, there's simply not enough room in the world
 
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3:05 PM
And that's what always happens. "We'll level off in 60 years..." -> 40 years later -> "We'll level off in 60 years"
 
@ziGi Kicking is per user, not per message
 
we are still populating, but that growth curve is slowing down.
 
@SecondRikudo rofl!
 
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@SterlingArcher Exactly. Right-to-work is no longer real, we're already running out of work.
 
Human birth to survival rate is probably at the top of the list in the world
 
3:06 PM
@SterlingArcher hm, Indonesia has a much similar population on a much smaller land than the States
 
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McDonalds jobs don't need to exist, it's laughable and unsanitary that they do.
 
@SterlingArcher what-if.xkcd.com/105
 
for some reason, "Awak" is super funny to me lol @SecondRikudo ; well done man
 
LOTS OF ROOM IN CANADA GUYS!
 
@Jhawins true, all the food can be produced by machines
 
3:07 PM
@AwalGarg Awakward.
 
GRAB YO PARKAS AND COME UP NORTH! WOO!
 
@rlemon yes, but you don't allow people going to work in your country like this
 
@SecondRikudo man you swallowed 100 clowns today, right?
 
why would we?
 
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I'm not discrediting anyone working in fast food, but the job isn't worth minimum wage and you are dirty and gross. I would rather you be replaced with an already readily available machine (which costs a fraction of your pay and doesn't give me shit for ordering 4 burgers)
 
3:07 PM
my dad tried coming to work to Canada but it was too complicated
 
@AwalGarg 103 and counting.
 
eh, less complicated than the USA
 
xD
 
@Shog9 that's interesting
Lemme find one because you reminded me of it
 
Snow machines are pretty complicated. All those treads...
 
3:08 PM
@SterlingArcher nice song, me likey
 
@Shog9 ^ i love this one
 
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@rlemon are there jobs? We wanna take yer jobs
 
@Shog9 Snow Machines often refer to artificial snow makers. do you mean Snow Plow?
 
THEY TOOK OUR JERBZZZZ
 
@Jhawins JEEERBBBB
 
3:09 PM
A snowmobile, also known as a sled or a snowmachine, is a land vehicle designed for winter travel on snow. It is designed to be operated on snow and ice. Snowmobiles do not require a specific road or trail. Variations of the snowmobile enable some machines to operate in deep snow or forests; however most are used on open terrain, including frozen lakes, or driven on paths or trails. Snowmobiles are usually designed to accommodate two people, similarly to a motorcycle or an all-terrain vehicle (ATVs) with the exception of snowmobiles designed for mountain riding/deep snow travel which typically...
 
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@Shog9 I knew what you meant ;)
 
I broke a snowmobile once
 
ahh, snow mobile
those are fun
 
Is the SO front page broken for anyone else?
 
user1596138
They're actually ridiculously simple. I've done a lot of work to em haha
 
3:09 PM
The engine literally fell out of my snowmobile and I had to ride tandem with the group leader
 
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@KendallFrey no
 
@rlemon learnxinyminutes.com/docs/css so there is a mistake here?
 
works for me
 
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@SterlingArcher :D
 
I wasn't even fucking around on it :(
 
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3:10 PM
I seem to lose 1 friend a year to snow mobiles. It's sad.
 
simple compared to a car, or simple compared to a dirt bike
 
user1596138
For years now
 
@AwalGarg yes it is wrong
> Represents an element with an attribute name of attr whose value is a whitespace-separated list of words, one of which is exactly "value".
 
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@Shog9 Simple because it's basically just a dirt bike
 
@Jhawins that's sad man :( I keep losing friends to dope, unfortunately
 
3:10 PM
fixed, something got cached wrongly
 
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@SterlingArcher That's better than being beheaded on a snow mobile... :(
 
Not really man
 
@Shog9 we have a ton of room owners, I think at least twice as much as other rooms. I wanted to know if you have any thoughts about that? (As in, is it a positive/negative thing in terms of being able to moderate the room well, in light of the new systems)
 
ahh well... this is the first mistake I have seen on learnxiny... wud be careful next time
 
If we like you and you stick around long enough -> room owner.
 
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3:11 PM
@SterlingArcher yeah I know... Just trying to make a funny I guess. This is sad talk
 
With drugs, overdose is inevitable. With snowmobiles, accidents are freak -- to an extent
 
I don't think kicking should be anonymous :/
 
@Jhawins yeah let's change topic, I just got really upset
 
room owners should at least be aware of who is kicking others :/
idk.
 
@rlemon there is a big downside to it being public too - there is shaming in it.
 
3:11 PM
@rlemon agreed
 
Room owners notified is a good compromise - where it doesn't show it in a message to the room but relevant parties are notified.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yea I don't like the idea of 'public' but I think we (room owners) should know what other owners are doing
 
@rlemon yeah, I agree with that
 
Yeah, that'd be nice to have
 
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@SterlingArcher The problem is that they just ride anywhere they want... Old geezer farmers get mad and I have lost 2 friends because the old farts put up metal wire between the trees to deter dirt bikers in the summer, but in the winter they get too hard to see.
 
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3:12 PM
The families didn't even press charges.. Idk if you even can
 
Jesus christ
 
@SterlingArcher can you od on pot?
 
@rlemon nope
 
@rlemon I think you can.
 
because I'm pretty sure once you've smoked too much you just sober up and get a headache
 
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3:13 PM
@rlemon you sure can
 
@rlemon no, but I don't class mairjuana as a drug
 
You can OD on water.
 
at least that was my experience.
 
It techinically is, but it's not in the class of dope or crack
 
user1596138
If you OD on marijuana you just get painfully high for days
 
user1596138
3:13 PM
That's what I've read anyway, and it's really only doable with edibles?
 
@SterlingArcher Not really inevitable
 
okay I can see that
 
user1596138
There was a professor who did it to himself on purpose and he said he wouldn't do it again.
 
I mean I''m still here ain't I? :P
 
user1596138
He said it lasted days
 
3:14 PM
ingestion makes a difference in how your body metabolizes it
 
I'm going to afk, just because I lost a friend recently to drugs, but I don't want to bar the topic
@PeeHaa me too man ;)
 
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Anyway
 
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Those are the big no nos
 
!!afk ping me when the sad talk is done
 
@rlemon I'm sure it depends on the kind of pot too
 
3:15 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum neh
 
@SterlingArcher lets talk about fish
this one looks like a dog
 
hahaha
 
this one looks like a growth of some kind. but is actually called a "frog fish"
 
@rlemon Damn that thing is ugly
 
which is a type of angler fish
 
3:17 PM
those white spots look like comical drops of sweat
 
^ rockfish?
 
this is a dwarf lionfish. I hope to one day own it
 
lion
dammit
 
3:17 PM
aren't those poisonous?
 
venomous iirc
 
nitpicking, but correct lol
 
rockfish get .. well .. big
 
poisonous = ingestion, venonmous = injection
 
@SterlingArcher not nit picking. one kills you one makes you sick
 
3:18 PM
I didn't mean that derogatively dont worry
 
inb4 megalodon
 
hello guys
 
@PrakashPatil Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
atm my favorite fish (I own) is my Diamond Goby
 
I've a question
 
3:19 PM
he's a sand sifter. cool to watch
@PrakashPatil can you please use a service like jsfiddle.net
it's easier to read the code there and easier to spot problems
 
user1596138
I think I need to quit automotive work. It has become an addiction and is sucking up all my money.
 
user1596138
If only there were some way to make coding apply to auto work...
 
what is happening with all those pictures, why not unonebox?
 
unonebox is only when cap posts a picture
 
3:22 PM
 
who is cap?
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey And get paid for it
 
!!s/not unonebox/not Zoidberg/
 
@ziGi the bot
 
3:23 PM
@SterlingArcher what is happening with all those pictures, why not Zoidberg? (source)
 
user1596138
lol there are days when I wake up and think "FU JavaScript" I'm gonna go be a tuner
 
@Jhawins Work on developing chips
 
user1596138
@KendallFrey lmao you mean the pretend "performance chips"?
 
It's basically hacking, but you can sell the product
@Jhawins yeah
 
aren't microelectronics simpler than programming?
 
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3:24 PM
PCM mods are outdated now tho because they are flashable
 
@ziGi hell no
 
@Jhawins what do you think?
 
user1596138
Plus you are adjusting things like timing advance, shift point and shift pressure, fuel trims etc
 
user1596138
That's basically being a tuner yeah
 
@KendallFrey if we exclude microcircuits, then you have only a few building blocks so why should it be more complicated
 
3:24 PM
When you have to worry about residual voltage and parasitic capacitance, shit gets weird
 
Ok, you might be right
 
Does anyone else have trouble with gulp occasionally throwing really random errors and offering no way to debug it?
 
user1596138
The interface with the PCM / ECU now days is digital so "chips" are really pointless, you can adjust settings and they are retained. No need for a chip just a tuner
 
user1596138
Plug in -> tune -> unplug and put back in toolbox
 
Maybe a better question would be: Is there a way to make gulp log a stack trace?
 
3:26 PM
Please solve my prob.
3
 
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However if someone would kindly help me understand the software used in a keyfob I could finish my project. jus sayin... @rlemon :P
 
@PrakashPatil bro, put html in the html box.
 
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@AwalGarg :D
 
@Jhawins what you wanna do?
 
jsfiddle had asked me not to put <html> tags , as its alredy there.
 
3:29 PM
 
@PrakashPatil it literally means the html tag
 
Not all your html
 
Thanks
 
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3:30 PM
@rlemon I understand how a key fob works, I get the rolling code system and the encryption and the seed used by the receiver in the car. What I don't get is how to actually implement it
 
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Did you see my email forever ago? :P
 
that was kinda funny... but I don't want to laugh dunno why
 
ohh yea :P I forgot about that
I'll figure it out and get back to you
 
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I just need ti implement a keyfob that can interface with the existing tech in cars (which is universal in the USA 1998-2012)
 
The problem is that when I refresh the page I get the first links content in a div by default.
 
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3:31 PM
That's the only hardware I need to make this project :P
 
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But it's kickstart worthy so am not going to spray it to the room today (plus I haven't decided on half of the things haha)
 
whereas I want that even after refreshing the page The contents in the div should remain before the refresh.
 
@PrakashPatil I'm confused -- javascript doesn't store a state like that
 
@PrakashPatil you can use cookies, localstorage (no old browser support), or a backend if you allow users to be signed up; to store that information somewhere.
 
You can't refresh and expect something to remain
 
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3:33 PM
@rlemon No worries if you don't feel like it or something :P. I'll get it done eventually, I found a company that makes what I need recently and thought about asking them but since the project is potentially for-profit I'm uneasy on stealing their tech to start haha
 
@AwalGarg I like the examples
 
Most basic under construction page: nickdugger.com -- but I made the photo have a neat hover effect.
 
Can we create global values of the local values in javascript? That can solve my problem...
 
wat
@Shea nice...
 
Can we pass the value of local variable to a global variable in javascript ?
 
3:35 PM
window.global = local
 
@MaximOrlovsky Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@KendallFrey This is so cool.
 
@PrakashPatil how does that solve your problem? global variables also reset on reload.
 
Oh thanks maxim
 
@PrakashPatil you may want to brush on on globals in JS
Globals typically aren't the solution
 
3:36 PM
@PrakashPatil Using global variables is usually not a problem fix, but rather a workaround
 
I see..
Then cookies ?
 
!!tell PrakashPatil mdn History
 
I just tried to install save-dev...
 
Think of cookies as global variables stored on the client pc
 
3:37 PM
localStorage > cookies
 
At least that isn't a package...
 
Not quite teh same, but you can use it like a global variable (which again, for emphasis, you shouldn't do if you can help it)
 
localStorage is the best thing in HTML5
 
@rlemon Depends on the type of cookie ;)
cookies < localStorage < chocolate chip cookies
 
oh wow...never heard of this in HTML5....cool
 
3:39 PM
@Neil I prefer oatmeal raisin
 
@rlemon That's a close second for me as well
Best when warm.
 
yup
 
Oatmeal raisin is so damn good
 
or white chocolate macadamia nut
mmmm macadamia nut
 
I like oatmeal chocolate chip. Best of both worlds
 
3:40 PM
I prefer the classic tollhouse chocolate chip cookie to white chocolate macadamia nut
 
or oatmeal cranberry is really good too
 
Still good though
 
can those cookies work in mobile platform ?
 
^ gonna have to try oatmeal cranberry
that sounds delicious
 
@rlemon it is
 
3:41 PM
localStorage is better than cookies for your purpose
cookies get sent with the request. why add shit
 
cookies are so last century
 
maybe he is inclined towards using cookies because they sound delicious ;p
 
Cookies are still necessary, because you can't access localStorage on the back end, or so I was told
 
@Jhawins it's weird not doing.. things. This is the first time in 5 years I've felt normal.
 
really pushing stuff into the history API is his best bet, along side localStorage if he needs to save states
@SterlingArcher congrats
 
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3:42 PM
@SterlingArcher Good news brother
 
I'm cutting out cigs first. and need to really cut back on the booze
 
It's good yes, but the sudden clarity in my life is kind of... depressing.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum There should be enough room owners to be available when there are people here. More than that is probably overkill.
 
Like, it's just hitting me that I'll be doing just this for the next 52 years
I predict I will have a major midlife crisis xD
 
:P
 
3:44 PM
I'm sure it depends on what you are trying to store, but what is a good amount of time before a cookie should expire?
 
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@SterlingArcher hahaha right me too!
 
@rlemon you can, but it's really hard. By the same token, you can OD on coffee, but you're going to make yourself very, very sick first.
 
That was an unexpected explosion of brashness, yet again
 
Hey, sorry to bother you guys.  Some of the C# room at the moment isn't familiar with Javascript, wanted to inquire why this won't trigger.

        $(".Valid-Int").on("change", function () {

            var value = $(this).val();
            if(isNaN(value)) {
                $(this).css({ borderColor: "Red" });
                $(".Validiate-Submission").css({ display: "none" });
                alert("The highlighted field is an invalid value, please insert a valid value.");
            } else {
 
@Shog9 also, on water.
 
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3:45 PM
Like "oh shit, I have to wake up and go do this and go back to bed over and over and over for how long???"
 
@NickDugger @Jhawins play nice or I'll get all sour and shit on you both
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sure, yeah. So, don't enter any high-stakes water-drinking or pot-smoking competitions.
 
DON'T MAKE ME CITRUS YOU!
 
@Greg Just taking a stab, but.. does there exist an element with class Valid-Int?
 
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@rlemon Hey no way, I am not taking any shit even as a joke over that. That was shitty and uncalled for, not something he should've said to our dearest Jordan
 
3:46 PM
yes, and you told him to shut up, and he responded, and I binned it.
done and over with, no need to continue. :D
 
@Neil Yes, it does exist.
 
@Shog9 the most that will happen in a pot-smoking competition is you will raid the supermarket pretty hard afterwards xD
 
How that was even slightly offensive is beyond me
 
@Greg did you check the console?
 
@AwalGarg No errors in the Console.
 
3:46 PM
@Jhawins @NickDugger it's fine, it didn't bother me :) No need to get heated
 
@Greg What element is it? Input textbox I assume?
 
room topic changed to JavaScript - OnlySeriousStuff: Read this: rules.javascriptroom.com. Before asking inform yourself on the XY problem goo.gl/taIqf | SheepHerdingJS is on topic here. stop asking. Reg room here: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/59354 [always-sunny-in] [javascript]
 
@SterlingArcher Can you OD on potato chips?
 
I would assume so
 
@Neil Yes, that is correct.
 
3:47 PM
@twiz: Not really
 
@Greg Have you verified that the event is getting registered and that for certain upon changing the input value, it doesn't call your callback?
 
You can OD on bread, but you'd have to eat like.. a thousand loaves in an hour to OD on the whatever chemical in bread
 
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> Sir your potato levels are off the charts!! How long have you been doing this?
 
Your stomach would explode long before that
> Sir, I believe you do indeed, potato.
 
3:48 PM
haha oh god...
 
@Neil I did verify, all the other Javascript on the page works as intended it is this one small code block.
 
@Greg fiddle
 
user1596138
> We're going to have to wean you off of them slowly using KFC gravy in 200ml injections thrice daily
 
Is that from South Park?
 
console.log('Test1');
$(".Valid-Int").change(function () {
    console.log('Test2');
});
 
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3:49 PM
> Or would you prefer the new spud-patch?
 
inb4 <input class=".Valid-Int" ... />
2
 
@Greg Run this, tell me what gets printed in console
 
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@twiz no but that's what I was thinking of haha
 
@AwalGarg I don't have the Validate-Submission on the Fiddle, but: jsfiddle.net/mdnq7qcd
 
@rlemon rofl
 
3:50 PM
<div class="Valid-Int"><input type="text"></div>
@Greg
come on greg
 
user2620028
oh woot i got internet access back at work :)
 
div???
 
you're looking for a change on the div, not the input, that will not work.
 
if you really wanna wrap, wrap in fieldset
 
div id fine.
but his selector is assuming he's targeting an input
 
3:51 PM
It's not given that he is doing that. He already said it was on an input textbox element
 
@AwalGarg I just realized that.
 
$(".Valid-Int input").on('change'
would work
but re-factoring the code would also work
 
If anything he's using <input class=".Valid-Int" ... >
 
@Greg follow?
 
@rlemon hit the nail on the head there
good catch
 
3:53 PM
Woah there is an abundance of gregs
suppository greg
and greg
 
!!afk vape then lunch
 
@Loktar ... I just sprayed water. You ass xD
 
Yes, I'm following. Sadly, this legacy code is painful.
 
hahah
 
@rlemon I know, I was just mentioning that as a side note since you had already pointed out the real problem.
 
3:55 PM
@SterlingArcher lol man it made me lol as a typed it I just sat there waiting for someone to catch it
 
I was reading.. and I saw it and I didn't get it for a second. So i sipped my water, it clicked, and I geeked hard
My boss is laughing at me
Thanks T_T
 
@rlemon This is the error:

<div id="ocart" class="cart">
    <div class="cartRow cartHeader">
        <div class="cartCell cartCellCntr">Qty</div>
        <div class="cartCell Valid-Int">Item#</div>
        <div class="cartCell">Cat#</div>
        <div class="cartCell" style='width: 360px;'>Description</div>
        <div class="cartCell">Weight</div>
        <div class="cartCell">Price</div>
        <div class="cartCell">Total</div>
        <div class="cartCell">Delete</div>
    </div>
</div>
 
such an error it is
 
That's not an error, that's html
 
@rlemon The problem is, the legacy code will automatically build the item through cartCell.
 
3:56 PM
@Greg rlemon is afk: vape then lunch
 
lol those divs.
 
user2620028
i don't get the greg joke o.O
 
@Greg so change the selector
.Valid-Int input
 
@AaronSiciliano The horrible approach I'm taking is because of the legacy code.
 
Whenever i see the word cell I thinkof Dragonball Z
 
@SterlingArcher I recently started rewatching them all, but once Frieza was defeated, I stopped. I can't take the fights being stretched out for a whole season. It's too painful to sit through
 
that happened a while back.
 
@Greg how large is it?
 
and went on for a month or so
 
I've seen may 5 DBZ episodes.
never got into it
 
3:58 PM
@AwalGarg Can you please clarify?
 
@Greg How large is the legacy code?
 
@Greg did you try my 'change of selector' approach?
 
@rlemon bro I have never seen you so determined ;p
 
because if the html is as you describe, that is the answer
@AwalGarg I get easily annoyed when ignored :P
 
xD
me too
 

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