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11:00 PM
@phenomnomnominal Nope, it's actually really ugly code. FWIW it's for the university and not work :)
 
I wrote some awesome code for a project in my class and the teacher who thinks that ArrayLists are backed by linked lists didn't approve
 
@Esailija WAT?
 
she said that she had read the source code and just knows they are backed by linked lists
 
Two things, first of all, it's called an array list, how weird can he get? Can't he "view source"? Second, it can't be awesome code to begin with since Java is pretty lame :P
 
how the hell does that happen
 
11:02 PM
My answer to that is usually "Wanna make it interesting?"
 
that was my answer actually
 
What did she say?
 
I asked if she wanted to bet
and she said no that she needs to check it again
and then it was forgotten
 
haha
Got to love teachers making bold statements
I love the students who find errors or cool ways to optimize my stuff in class, they're usually my favorite :)
 
you are the teacher?
 
11:04 PM
I'm a student in the Hebrew University in Israel, but I also teach younger students.
 
ahh I see
 
I'm a teaching assistant, I do frontal teaching, but I don't get to decide what to teach. (I sneak in stuff though )
 
Teaching is good fun aye
especially graphics, cause they get to make cool stuff
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum getting mocked while my whole day collapses around me (not to mention the constant stress of moving across the country) was painful.
 
@SomeKittens I'm not saying your pain isn't real. I'm saying that it's commonplace for people who are in this industry to not being able to distinguish good clean fun from making someone feel shitty. Programmers are not known for their emotional intelligence. This sort of humor is pretty common in programming shops and it's easy to take out of perspective. I would try not to read too much into it, or take offense in it.
Also, they were making fun of you for not being leet with a mac. I find that ironic.
 
11:11 PM
how come document.addEventListener( works but document.getElementById("main").addEventListener( doesn't, yet they both, when logged, output function addEventListener() { [native code] } meaning it must exist
 
> Programmers are not known for their emotional intelligence.
Bang on
 
doesn't work how
it must be unemployed
 
Weather app says it's 91 and dreary
 
"All events in Javascript fire on the outermost element interacted with" That's actually not true. See the useCapture optional flag in addEventListener. You can set an event to hit an element before being dispatched to elements beneath it in the DOM tree. — Benjamin Gruenbaum 4 secs ago
Also that question
 
user1125394
I bet doing replace if a bad mysql practise, but.. for the moment it does the job
 
11:17 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm going to talk to the founder about it.
 
@SomeKittens I probably wouldn't, not sure why I'm telling you that.
 
...?
 
I wouldn't go talk to the boss about it.
 
I would
You have the right to feel comfortable in the work place
 
Of course you do
 
11:20 PM
If you're feeling extra stressed from moving across the country, they need to know you're not in the mood for their shit
 
Help with Schema
So far I have <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Product"><span itemprop="image" class="fn"><img src="<?php echo $product['thumb']; ?>" alt="<?php echo $product['name']; ?>" /></span></div> I understand that the fn is supposed to be a value but doesn't and image count as one?
 
In Israel, people have to serve in the army. It forces you for the first time to deal with idiots. You get told what to do, often by less intelligent people who are suddenly in a position of power over you. You are always in stress and always pretty fucked. One of the things you pick up after a while is that it's almost never good to bother the boss with social issues. I'd probably learn a bunch of the mac shortcuts, and then make fun of them for using mac.
As long as they weren't making fun of you personally for anything that's not technological. If they were, that totally changes things.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum In the US, we call that "High school"
 
Hah :) We have High School here too. I wouldn't say it's exactly the same experience.
 
Why not be awesome using Linux, Windoze, whatever you're good at. And don't give a fuck what other people say
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11:23 PM
Not saying that you have any less experience in those situations than me or anything, just that that's what my experience.
@copy Now you just want stars :)
The problem is, it's not easy to not give a fuck what other people say. A programming work place is very social from my experience.
 
I plan on bringing it up. If he says "Ok, let's focus on doing a great job, regardless of this personal stuff" then I'll do that. If he's aloof, I'll focus on moving on.
 
Often you come to your peers for advice and second looks and code review, you run ideas through them and ask them how they'd do things. It's a big part of why I work for a company and not freelance.
@SomeKittens What do you expect to accomplish by talking to him?
 
I don't mind good-natured ribbing. I get that all the time from friends. But my friends know when I'm stressed and are willing to help.
@BenjaminGruenbaum Get his position on the issue
I feel like I'm not allowed to have an opinion here.
 
As a manager, the last thing I'd be interested in dealing with are social issues. You're an awesome programmer, you're a part of a large, peer reviewed community where your opinion matters. I really think you shouldn't worry about it that much.
 
I saw a dream last night where I installed ubuntu on my computer
 
11:28 PM
See, I disagree. My management philosophy is that manager's purpose is to do what it takes so their people can get the job done. If it's dealing with social issues (and it usually is), so be it.
 
after uninstalling windows, seriously
 
@SomeKittens I agree
 
@Esailija I once installed Ubuntu drunk on a friend's computer, he just woke up and had Ubuntu installed. I even had to configure a bunch of stuff and compile a bunch of drivers myself xD
 
I had had some problems with building node-heapdump in the day :D maybe it was that
 
Meh, I don't know. Did you try telling them in a very direct way you don't appreciate their criticism?
 
11:32 PM
Or even that you just aren't in the mood today?
 
"i'm sorry, I never thought paying more for less was a good idea"
 
Just found this comment in our code base. It annoys me:
// passing in radix as JS would assume too much if an mcat started with 0
// i.e. it would guess 0254 will parse as 376... I know
 
@phenomnomnominal Don't you use strict mode?
 
strict mode doesn't affect parseInt
parsing octal without radix parameter is spec violation anyway
it is fixed in chrome recently
 
@Esailija is it?
 
11:34 PM
I just don't like the attitude of, "ooh, it's JavaScripts fault that i'm passing in retarded values."
 
Ah, so it is, used to complained about it
parseInt("0123") returns 123
 
@JanDvorak yes, in 5.1, only base 10 and base 16 can be inferred without radix parameter
 
!!>parseInt('0123')
 
@JanDvorak 123
 
Bot is on ff
 
11:35 PM
@Esailija TIL, thanks
 
!!>parseInt('0123', 8)
 
@Esailija 83
 
FF is less good than GC
 
Does anybody have a iOS developer account that I can tag my UDID to so I can download the iOS7 beta? :)
 
@Gacnt ew. iOS7 looks like android
 
11:37 PM
I just wanna try it out
 
I really like it
 
@Gacnt you can't revert it easily. Once you install the beta you're pretty much stuck
@phenomnomnominal did you install it ?
 
I can use tiny umbrella to get back to 6.0.2 so I can re-jailbreak if I don't like it
 
Nah, but we put it on a couple of work devices
 
Cool :)\
How is it?
 
11:38 PM
Very smooth
 
Better UX than android?
 
very responsive
 
Like android
 
I think so
 
11:39 PM
the control center is a nice touch
 
Yeah, iOS was missing that for a while
 
I assume they stole it from a jailbreak feature
 
SB Settings
Intelliscreen X
 
And there's going to be a lot of annoyed Flashlight app developers haha
But in general it feels like the iOS version of gmail
 
@phenomnomnominal Why? it has a built in one?
 
11:40 PM
Which I already really liked.
@BenjaminGruenbaum, yeah
 
Cool, I was worried about the UX and UI.
 
It's like a different phone
 
UX = Interaction?
 
User experience.
 
experience
 
11:41 PM
oh
 
I kind of liked the old iOS (6)
I guess the big question is, is it better ?
 
Is iPhone 5 still good hardware?
 
Pretty much.
 
I think they will be listening to a lot of the feedback they are getting and making a few changes
 
I really hope they extend their SDK to support more things that you need to Jailbreak for
e.g. custom chat apps, custom keyboards
 
11:43 PM
There were two big shocks when switching to iPhone from Android. First - how smooth everything was, there were no being stuck, no little glitches, no need to download roms, or launchers, or modems or anything. Second, is how good all the apps were. iPhone users buy a lot more apps so they get a lot of better apps.
 
Still no custom keyboards?
 
I never thought there was too much wrong with iOS6, but the little changes have made it better.
 
I spent more money on apps in my first 2 weeks with an iPhone than a year with Android.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum, yeah, it's very easy to find quality iOS apps
 
Alien Blue is like, nerdjiz all over the the bitch
@Shmiddty No, sadly.. I really was looking for word to Minuum
 
11:45 PM
my GF has an iPhone I have android I must admit the touch smoothness is insane in iPhone
 
I spent more money on Cydia than I had the App Store :/
 
but my android is very old... galaxy s1, I wonder if it's better in galaxy s4?
 
Probably, but I've compared them and it's still not as smooth.
I wanted to buy an Android but they're huge. 5" is huge for a phone
 
but a touch screen can be extremely shitty, like in some mp3 players by creative or navigators
like wtf, would it have killed to spend extra to make the product usable
 
lemonmeme.com/demos/motion_demo2.html don't touch the controls until they open
and I think i'm done with that now :)
 
11:48 PM
@Gacnt some people like to support developers :P
S4 feels so plasticy
 
@rlemon very cool :)
 
thank you
 
Haha, I'm talking about buying actual apps from Cydia, not pirating apps
 
if I can get CORS working I can put it on codepen
 
@rlemon nice!
 
11:50 PM
@rlemon It's just a header :)
What about the traffic though?
 
eh
server isn't being used for anything atm
 
I dunno if vimeo or youtube offers some sort of api that would allow what i need :/
which is to say, I looked (however brief) and didn't see it
but that is the end goal.
 

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