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11:00 PM
having a huge, single CSS - file in development for a project is just a really fucking bad idea
 
I noticed... and I want to tear my beard hairs out everytime I see one of those words
Foundation uses Sass
Bootstrap, LESS
 
and whenever you do that, pray that the guy that has to debug that stuff later on never finds you
 
something else, Stylus
 
just like cluttered javascript, you don't smash all your javascript into one file, do you?
 
um
 
11:01 PM
Certainly not in development.
In production, hell yea.
 
i'm solely talking about development here
 
u don't?
hehe.. no, you don't
 
of course there needs to be a build-process after that, that's out of question
 
ok ... now you're making a bit of sense
 
@GNi33 never...until prod, then wham...minify concatenate the hell out of it
 
11:02 PM
it's like calling scripts
external scripts
?
 
@GNi33 I'd like to eat your nose.
 
like if you have... topbar.js and slider.js - it wouldn't be advisable to go and pull the code out of both and mush them into one file
 
o.O
 
you'd break stuff
 
Don't ask me why ... I have no fucking clue.
 
11:04 PM
@OctavianDamiean Armin MEiwes?
 
@skopp of course you should.
 
is that you?
 
you're not going to break stuff if the script in there isn't utter crap
@OctavianDamiean dude, i still need my nose though :D
 
Anyone have a slide on hand? I need to poop.
 
@GNi33 think of the developers that come after you're fired/leave for the bahamas
would they want to see mushed code, or clearly marked files?
 
11:06 PM
gosh. NOT IN DEVELOPMENT
i said that about 5 times now
 
Im trying to really understand the concept of CSS preprocessors
 
development -> lots of files, split up into parts/modules where it makes sense
 
I talk to myself like that - helps me understand
 
@GNi33 Ծ_Ծ gimme your nose!
Drop it!
 
applies to JS and CSS
 
11:07 PM
and if I'm wrong someone will nose
I mean call me out on it
 
production -> concatenate and minify stuff
 
@Shmiddty a what?
 
preferably in a build-process
 
@GNi33 why though
 
no-one will ever touch production-files
 
11:08 PM
to uglify?
 
@skopp A slide. For me to poop on.
 
everyone edits the parted files in the development-structure and builds them afterwards
 
It's not that hard to prettify uglified code
 
@skopp minify file-size and http-requests
uglifying isn't there to obscure your code for others
 
probably for big sites
 
11:09 PM
uglify is a sucking name anyhow
 
@GNi33 the name gives that impression
 
it's just minifying your scripts
 
@Shmiddty I'll lend a hand
is it runny or chunky
ewww
 
@skopp no, for any site
 
grossed myself out
 
11:11 PM
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ok. Thanks for the help
after some seriosu arm twisting
serosu is japanese
 
and css preprocessors are just there to provide additional features for you as developer
 
if u haven't realised
@GNi33 I like to type things out
 
then don't use a preprocessor
 
If vendor prefixes didn't exist, preprocessors would be pointless.
 
11:13 PM
but not if it's say, a new stack overflow site
I would be typing for months
is that right>
months?
 
@Shmiddty okay, are you guys trolling me right now?
 
or a hew hours
 
@skopp Why? copypasta, change a few colors.
 
@Shmiddty are you serious?
those things are the cause of all evil the world, I sweAR
They break families apart
 
That's what I'm saying, the only point of using a preprocessor, in my opinion, is so you don't have to define the same keyframe (or other CSS3+ feature) 5 times
 
11:15 PM
@OctavianDamiean i really did get trolled right now, didn't i?
and give me back my nose, for fucks sake!
 
@GNi33 a trolled person would know they were trolled
except for when the troll fails at trolling
 
@GNi33 I lost track somewhere midway because I was concentrating on eating your nose. Sorry. ಥ_ಥ
 
noooooooooooo
 
sssssese
 
i hope it was delicious, at least
 
11:17 PM
nose way
I'm sure you guys have seen this gistboxapp.com
 
great, now i feel trolled and i'm pissed off. beer it is
 
I stumbled upon a .net app that does funky stuff
 
@Shmiddty Not just that...preprocessors help keep some level of consistency, with global variables like @baseColor: rgba(x,y,z,0.5);
 
(thinking of the name)
 
you want to change the site colours, just change that variable's colour, and you can easily modify the entire look and feel
rather than global search and replace
 
11:24 PM
spoon.net
how difficult would you say this howtogomo.com/fullvalueofmobile was to make
 
SVG - craziness
 
timewise, how large a team, how much debugging needed etc?
 
really hard to say
 
@skopp why do you ask?
 
for frontend it depends how experienced the devs are with svg
 
11:28 PM
just curious
 
sadly, svg is still much of a black-hole for me, so i can't really say how hard it is to make something like that
 
I feel it's missing one thing though
I feel like dragging it around
spinning the cirrcle
as if it were touch events
Node.js is powerful
I've seen a bit of what it can do, mad
But it has a short term memory
just like a dog
Why do you never hear people make a fuss about thout Rhino?
Did Bill Gates develop it or something
Bill Gates is a Bilderberger now
 
svg isn't too bad, it's just like html but with circles and gradients and shit
 
Is he having a stroke?
 
should he?
 
11:39 PM
have i mentioned that i hate my current job ?
 
why
 
@Zirak i'm really not sure
 
I think so.
 
Why must there be politics all the time
 
11:42 PM
The rambling. Lack of coherence.
 
Even with freakin stylesheets
I envision myself looking back someday and thinking wow... was I really so stupid not to know this stuff?
Inevitably, that's the case with everyone
 
Dude, put it in a blog.
 
inevitably seems out of place there
@phenomnomnominal really?
 
Yes, this isn't the place for it
 
but it is the place for 2 > "Do you want to have gay sex with me?" -
I'm tired.
peace
 
11:47 PM
The difference is that that was part of a conversation, not just one dude randomly preaching about shit.
 
!!should I learn Lua?
 
@Zirak Probably
 
!!should zirak disregard your last reply?
 
@david No way
 
:o
 
11:58 PM
@Loktar How's Heart of the Swarm?
 
<a href="http://3091788983">Suprise Me</a>
 

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