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7:01 PM
@RyanKinal one scotch, one bourbon, one beer is a great song
 
@Raynos Yes. Yes it is.
I see you've been paying attention to G+
 
RT @dstorey: Opera Dragonfly 1.1 Release Candidate out now. http://t.co/5fPwBfc Tell your friends, family, pets, developers, and random ...
 
yay g+!
there are some people that have great posts on g+
 
I love reading the Microsoft guys bash on it. cough*Scott Hansleman*cough
 
@Eonasdan ?
 
7:08 PM
re: G+
 
sigh
myLink.Attributes("onclick") = "javascript:JavaToCartSOLP('" & e.Item.ClientID & "_AddPackageToCartImage', " & _studentID & ", " & _cartID & ", " & 0 & ", " & cost & ", " & shoppingCart.CartItemType.BasePackage & ", " & id & ",'',''," & licTypeId & ",'" & state & "', 0, AddedToCartSOLP);"
shudder
 
lol
 
@RyanKinal Is that in a Q?
 
@Incognito No. It's in the code that I'm re-hashing.
 
@RyanKinal Oh. Good....
:|
 
7:15 PM
And the sad part is, I don't think there's anything more than small improvements I can make to it, given my deadline.
 
Wtf is JavaToCartSOLP ?
 
@Incognito An awesome piece of information technology
 
It adds a product to the shopping cart.
 
And then SOLPs it
 
I honestly don't know what SOLP stands for.
 
7:16 PM
JavaToCartSOLP(
        '" & e.Item.ClientID & "_AddPackageToCartImage',
        " & _studentID & ",
        " & _cartID & ",
        " & 0 & ",
        " & cost & ",
        " & shoppingCart.CartItemType.BasePackage & ",
        " & id & ",
        '',
        '',
        " & licTypeId & ",
        '" & state & "',
        0,
        AddedToCartSOLP
);"
Wtf's with all the ampersands?
 
Stupid Old Language Programmer?
 
@Incognito It's VB's concatenation operator
 
Oh, this isn't JS?
 
It's ASP/VB.NET 2.0 web forms code behind that writes JavaScript
 
I used to write some vb back when I worked at a bank....

"Hey steve, don't send me an email with the passwords of everyone in the entire company"

"No problem, I'll make sure it's empty.
passwords.xls, 55mb"
Entire ldap maintained by VBS from excel.
I ain't kiddin sonny.
 
7:18 PM
@Incognito It's still kinda messy and i'm far from done, but it's certainly more extensible. And I added a face! :D jsbin.com/ewofeq/17/edit#source
 
Good stuff
 
ahhh.. clueless face is back again! starred like a star!
 
@ThomasShields Wow that's some great progress.
 
@Incognito thanks :D
 
Try to document as-you-go.
 
7:19 PM
@jAndy You're right, you're back again!
 
It'll help you out a lot, and us.
 
@IvoWetzel: obviously, that face just represents my skilllevel
 
@ThomasShields :D I cant die
 
@Incognito ah, good point. starts adding comments
@Raynos yeah I know.
I left the dying out for right now. Its more fun to test.
 
@ThomasShields I'd make collision detection part of your movement.
 
7:21 PM
@Incognito It is.
 
@jAndy Dunno whether you read it or not, but we're still hiring two more JSDevs just in case
 
Ah, I saw the empty wrapper in block and jumped to conclusions.
 
@IvoWetzel
> hey jAndy. I think you should work for us! go on, do it!
 
@IvoWetzel: I did read it, I also did respond! :p something like "I am interested in a ticket for the cursed jsconf first (still no luck) - Also a much better place to talk about such a topic"
 
@Incognito ah okay. :)
 
7:22 PM
@Raynos I'm not that direct you know... at least outside of the office :P
 
> It is not possible to buy tickets for this event at the moment
 
@jAndy Hm... henne ei problem then ;) You get to JSConf we talk with you, you join us we bring you to JSconf :P
 
and I still do like my current job pretty much - so I really would need to hear more detail (and I'm not talking about money :p). It must be fun to work right
 
@Incognito fortunately for me my collision detection is very simple since it's all on a grid. I just check to see if any of the other blocks occupy the same row and column.
 
7:23 PM
You should detect collisions on movement, and call the individual object's reaction, the same way you render each object a bit differently.
 
haha :p
 
@Incognito exactly what I do, basically.
 
Eh, be careful. I remember a lot of CD related problems when I made games without learning the math behind the right way.
 
has anyone worked with the jQuery slide deck plugin?
 
I'd increment, then do the math of moving if it was on the edge. You should be able to increment by 50, and your CD should stop you at the wall, not stop you from moving.
 
7:24 PM
hey, lets check the jsconf site, probably some noise there
 
@Incognito no worries. I learned CD the hard way on that old (shudder) game I made once.
 
Ahhh, yes! with stuff flying through walls and bouncing around like insanity? :)
 
@tanktery Only what I've seen on your site :-P
 
@Incognito let's just say I was only 12-13 so I had a lot of trouble figuring out the math; at the time my math program in school was terrible.
 
nah no word about any outstanding tickets, of course not. damn they
 
7:26 PM
Hehe, paste this into the address bar if you're using Chrome:
javascript:void(document.body.style["-webkit-transform"]="scale(-1)");
2
 
I'll go there and spray my clueless face ALL OVER THE LOCATION.. revenge!
 
user1385191
"the clueless revolution"
 
@ThomasShields Sounds about right. That's what I went through.
 
user1385191
"starring the absent-minded philosopher"
 
try it with "rotate(180deg)";
much more cool
 
7:28 PM
@Shaz lol
 
user1385191
"I don't think, therefore I am not"
 
@jAndy Why rotate 180 degrees, when you can rotate 5 and confuse your OCD users? :D
 
right
 
@RyanKinal I have placed a display:none on the slide deck section but when I open it all be comes fragmented, see for your self: epecho.com/tst/index.html
 
@jAndy I'd say it's pretty funny here :P And we get a lot of cool stuff for free, but in case you want to know a little bit more about the company (and there's at least some sort of interest) I can give you the mail of my boss and you can ask him stuff if you want
 
7:29 PM
Even just 1 degree is really annoying...
 
javascript:void(document.body.style["-webkit-transform"]="rotate(0.1deg)");
 
:o
 
@IvoWetzel: sure, why not -> jandy@typeofnan.com
 
@ThomasShields Problém?
 
@tanktery My guess would be that, since it is hidden when the initialize function runs, it doesn't have a valid width, and thus looks strange. (This is likely because the plugin tries to use the element's width).
 
7:31 PM
@Incognito I just meant that even rotating the page 1deg gets really visually annoying for me
 
Oh I know :P. It's going to bother everyone in the world.
The best part is if you remove it, your mind isn't sure if it's actually still unbalanced or not...
 
@RyanKinal how would I go about hiding it on every page but the index page?
 
It's weird; the JS GPU stuff got really slow after the CSS3 transform was done on it.
 
@jAndy mail's out
 
@IvoWetzel: alright
 
7:38 PM
@tanktery ... just do it?
 
now thats a little wierdo
javascript:void(document.body.style.MozTransform=document.body.style.OTransform‌​=document.body.style.WebkitTransform="skew(-21deg, 7deg) translate(811px, -100px)");
can't type anymore here when I skew the chat
 
lol
noscript blocks pasting javascript urls in the address bar nowadays
 
user1385191
hate that you have to set some inner setting to get that to work again
 
Oh god.. I love ANT so much... I'd like to sleep with it and create many little ants
 
7:54 PM
something's fishy
having chrome open slows down updates in my terminals..
 
@IvoWetzel: how many people actually work at zynga ? is there a diff between .org and .com addresses ?
 
@jAndy We're 7 here in Germany, US is a lot more don't know what our offical numbers are at the moment
.com is the corp .org is dedicated to helping / raising money for all sorts of financial aid stuff
 
user1385191
just 7 people, eh? suddenly, I don't feel so lonely being the only progammer amongst 3 people
 
7 is not a lot - doing own projects or participate to oversea ?
well, we're 75 here in my current company - but 'only' 10 developers aswell
nah, actually 7, I count three of, retards :p
 
@jAndy Kinda both, we're doing R&D stuff and of course need to deliver "products" to US and help the guys over there out in terms of JS and co ;)
 
8:06 PM
0
Q: Fancybox plugin for WP does not display links from the body

user7039I have a fancybox that I use to display the gallery. I click on the image and it pops up in the box. In the popup it shows the Title of the image pulling it from the title post, and the description from the body. But it does not pull the link I created in the body. Does anyone know how I can t...

 
When it comes to JS we do all kinds of stuff, since we're doing R&D and hardly nothing fits our needs ever we need to come up with or modify existing solutions
We've also got a pretty good mix of Devs here
long time C++ programmer / Python lovers / Linux kernel hackers / JS Pros(me! :P)
 
a really great thing would be if I can make it to jsconf and meet you guys. But even the guy I know there can't tell me any details right now
just that there are tickets, but they are not released yet
 
user1385191
I've only been able to work with a fellow programmer once :(
 
I'm quite happy I can do like 90% Ecma since a year or so. I had to dig into perl at the beginning but now I'm pretty much responsible for the complete frontend dev
@IvoWetzel: you're noding there ?
 
Ugh, couch is being an ass
 
8:16 PM
@MattMcDonald I know how you feel
Im the same way, luckily (making an assumption here) you are self motivated.
 
@jAndy At times... mainly for build / commit scripting right now
 
user1385191
you bet I am
 
@Raynos whats the issue? I'm actively developing on couch right now
 
build ? first thing I'd implement in any other company/job is ANT for static build processes :p probably even as requirement for me :D
 
I have this ORM
it's throwing a badarg error
 
8:18 PM
We have a cool python thing is place for a couple of days now doing all sorts of JS building stuff
 
Looks like I might have to write my own backbone.sync :\
 
where is the ES6 compiler? you need to do that first :p
 
:P
Busy writing draconian pre commit hooks
 
actually meant @Raynos :p
 
@jAndy its on the todo list
first I need to kick around this ORM i have for backbone
so it works
or write my own
 
8:22 PM
the python scripts looks fine, anyway I don't think it comes even close to a good setuped ant script
 
can ant do dependency analysis, automatic mutation and stuff?
 
and ant is just so portable, java.. runs on like any machine. just ship your build scripts in your git repository for instance and then
git clone
cd build
ant build
done.
@IvoWetzel: ant can like do anything. you're basically just putting in plugins and controlscripts
 
but well then you need a plugin for permutation and stuff (which of course needs to know about the project) so in the end you would run jasy through ant in this case :D
Also no git here :( But we have HG
That means, Python pretty much everywhere
 
what actually does the 'dependency analysis' do ?
I mean.. I have an idea, but what exactly does it do ?
 
Pretty much fully automated bundling of scripts assets etc by just giving it some paths to the folders, it can also build variants of the same app by conditionally compiling out features or code paths
 
8:35 PM
WOW terrible answer accepted:
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Q: How to make the table 2 * 2 with rules in aspx page

SandyCan I make the table with rules in my aspx page. right now I am dispalying the page some thing like this. Can I differnciate with the rules each and every row. like this here is my Aspx code.. is there any way I can make like this? <table> <tr> <td> </td> </...

a line? really?
 
lol
 
seriously... just use css.... not a fracking line....
 
use a line for semantics and then style it with HTML!
..
 
@RyanKinal ahhh i rolled back the question. makes more sense now...
 
Can someone help with this:
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Q: JQuery Plugin - Redirect Timer Bugging out

Shawn31313I'm currently making a JQuery Plugin for a Redirect Timer and its really bugging out. I wan't to use defaults for the style, the number of seconds, and the redirect URL like: $('#redirect').redirect({ 'Seconds': '15', 'Redirect_URL': 'http://google.com', 'Button_Value': 'Hi', ...

 
8:40 PM
@Shawn31313 looks like it works
 
user1385191
the magic of tables
 
@Neal
does it style?
i mean the timer works
but the other stuff doesnt
 
@Shawn31313 no idea
@Shawn31313 u ddnt write in ur question what ddnt work... we are not here to debug ur code.
 
8:45 PM
<pathetic>Anymore recommend a tdd library/thingy?</pathetic>
 
@Zirak heh?
 
What-she-mah-call-its, unit testing thingies.
Haven't tried one yet, thinking it's about time to...
QUnit stuff
 
9:13 PM
@webRat You could do that too... it's just not very robust, so we don't talk about it much :p http://store.jquery.org/
 
9:42 PM
CouchAPP is actually pretty awesome
I didnt realise you didnt need a FTP server
You can use couch directly as your file server
 
9:56 PM
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A: How would I hide the slide deck on every page except the index page?

Evanchange the css for the slide to be display:none; for default and then on the one page you do want it to start at in document.ready just do $("#slidersection").show();

I did what was suggested but it breaks the slider anyone have any ideas?
 
@tanktery Do the opposite. Leave it display: block, and use $('#slidersection').hide() on every page you don't want it to show on.
 
this site is all but done needs the slide deck and to put WP 3.0 functionality and I am finished
 
;_;
WordPress
 
@RyanKinal same result: the slider breaks the functionality works the containing element opens just the slider or the child element breaks.
 
@tanktery Link?
 
10:03 PM
one sec
 
user1385191
I can't say I care for navigation like that
 
@RyanKinal do you need to see it broken I can FTP it now?
 
@tanktery ... it looks broken right now
 
user1385191
your site falls apart when js is turned off
 
user1385191
which means you need to hide the slides
 
user1385191
10:06 PM
and show them in JS
 
@RyanKinal oh ok I had Espresso on auto save and move to FTP so yeah, that it the broken slider.
 
$('#sliderSection').show()
$('.slidedeck').slidedeck();
So, before you initialize the slide deck, you need to show it.
It seems to me that the slide deck will not be initialized correctly if it is hidden. Most likely because it doesn't have any width.
Or height.
Or any dimension at all.
 
so showing it first will give it that?
 
Theoretically
 
@Raynos Happy Birthday!
 
10:11 PM
Y U PING
 
@RyanKinal ok, so in my css I have sliderSection to display:none than I use $('#sliderSection').show()
$('.slidedeck').slidedeck();
 
Right. But it will be a little odd for pages where you don't want the slide deck shown. Because in order to initialize it, it has to be shown. So, unfortunately, it seems you'll have to show, initialize, and then re-hide.
Or initialize when the slide deck is shown by the user. Which is probably the better option.
 
@Raynos what? I just noticed it was your birthday, or at least I was assuming it was from the picture above.... Anyways I noticed you started your blog on github. I started following it. Out of curiosity why is it classified under Actionscript and not Javascript?
 
user1385191
it's not
 
user1385191
and yes, I laughed heartily at that
 
10:13 PM
ok this can't be done
 
@tanktery I'm sure it can. It will just take some thought.
In any case, it's time for me to go home. Later all.
 
@RyanKinal later
 
@Lime WHAT
 
@RyanKinal tx
 
The blogs not ready yet
I need to write my ORM
 
user1385191
10:19 PM
I'd be interested how you template, if at all in node
 
@MattMcDonald I use dust atm
 
user1385191
I'm having a fun time maintaining proper whitespace/indenting
 
user1385191
:)
 
10:22 PM
Y U PHP
 
user1385191
familiarity, templating, desire to work with its OOP structure
 
OOP php?
 
it exists
 
Yeah but it's kinda wierd. I used Kohana for a while it it was nice, but big.
 
I would just use learn node instead
 
user1385191
10:23 PM
it's a style I'm somewhat familiar with merged with the python style (multi classes in one file)
 
That makes sense, I just like the chaining in Javascript trim().split().forEach and the fact the primitive values number,string,arrays.. have methods
 
user1385191
that's definitely bothersome
 
What is?
 
user1385191
having to pass an object as a parameter when it should have that method
 
user1385191
ie: array_push, str_replace, etc
 
user1385191
10:32 PM
I think the arrow is fine for OOP purposes
 
user1385191
and the double colon makes sense for statics
 
I want to add a login and signup button
I was thinking of using menu
 
user1385191
signup should be on a new page with its own form
 
user1385191
login you can put inline on the homepage
 
<menu type="list">
  <li><a href="/signup/"> Sign Up </a></li>
  <li><a href="/login/"> Log In </a></li>
</menu>
Is that semantic?
 
user1385191
10:34 PM
are you missing an <u|ol>, or is this html 5 magic?
 
user1385191
menus are best built by lists, yes
 
html5 magic
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Q: Are login/signup links a semantic use-case of HTML5 <menu>

RaynosLive Example HTML5: <menu type="list"> <li><a href="/signup/"> Sign Up </a></li> <li><a href="/login/"> Log In </a></li> </menu> I want to add a signup / login menu to my website. Would using <menu> be semantic? Should ...

 
user1385191
interesting
 
10:49 PM
var url = document.location.href;
if (url == 'http://epecho.com/tst/index.html') { $("#sliderSection").show(); }

ok this statement solves one of my problems the slider loads opened and on all other pages as closed great one down one to go. When I open the closed sliders they brake.
 
user1385191
use window.location
 
user1385191
document.location is non-standard
 
fire bug tells me the child elements are not taking the height of 300px
any suggestions?
 
use toggle()
 
11:09 PM
i have same thing happens
 

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