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2:00 PM
@Raynos lol, true dat
 
@RyanKinal isn't that the rule of the internet?
 
@AndyE Mostly
 
@RyanKinal the rule is, if you first words sound like an idiot then you stay idiot until proven competent
I've seen some people walk in here and radiate competence the moment the start talking
 
Fair point
 
@Raynos example? :-p
 
2:01 PM
Me, obviously
 
I can only think of one guy in /php
Who I thought "man this guy is competent"
There was also a guy who walked into /node.js yesterday
and was asking some questions which seemed silly
 
@AndyE newb you say?
 
but then he shows that he fixes his problem by going into the third party open source projects source and fixing the code.
It's really easy to show your competent if you understand the "OS broken -> fork, fix, pull request" system
 
@ThomasBlobaum to this chat room. Or at least, I don't remember you being in here before the last few days.
 
I think I decided it was worth my time to idle here about maybe a month or two ago. Shame.
 
2:06 PM
@ThomasBlobaum is a troll. He's been around, he's been in /node.js a bit
His trolling with nodeQuery maeks me raeg
 
I'm here trying to whore the chat badges
 
Creativity?? Experiments?? In MY javascript language?
 
@Raynos If I use UTF-8 characters as syntax, will I be murdered in my sleep?
 
Did you rage at jslinux, by chance?
 
@ThomasBlobaum DAMN RIGHT >:(
@Zirak Depends, are you giving out free keyboards with all the characters on it?
@ThomasBlobaum jslinux was awesome \o/
 
2:08 PM
Obviously
 
@ThomasBlobaum Your project is pretty cool. It's just something that them noobs will abuse :( you know what I mean
 
@Esailija I'm here because someone needs to feed @Raynos. And troll food is expensive.
 
Im here because this is procrastination
 
I pretty much come here specifically to troll @Raynos anymore, so s'all good
 
yeah it's good for procrastination
like 5 hour arguments with a troll
 
2:09 PM
I really want to use .
 
life just goes by
 
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Q: User behavior in chat

PurmouI've been participating in the SO chats for some time now, primarily to improve my coding in a more active community. Some of the users in chat act very boorish towards me when my code isn't exactly up to standards. I'm talking about outright insults. There are a few specific people that make st...

lol just found this re: idiot until proven competent
 
omg my chat message was quoted in the top answer =D
am I famous now?
 
Can't figure out a cooler way to express "equality test, not mathematical equality". When saying x = y, it means that "x has the same value as y and vice-versa". wants a better assignment operator
 
teresko is hardcore troll
 
2:12 PM
x equals y... x is y... make y x... it somehow makes sense to me @Zirak :(
 
And then people go and do x = x + 1, and mathematicians all over the world vomit
 
(1===1==1==1==1==1==1)
TRUE or FALSE
(no testing)
 
@AndyE that guy just bit back aggressively
 
@ThomasBlobaum That's easy. 1 === 1 is true, 1 == true.
 
@Zirak Use x <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< y for POWER ASSIGNMENT
 
2:15 PM
true soft equals 1 soft equals 1 soft equals 1 ..true true...
 
you replied too slow
 
should be true
 
@ThomasBlobaum no u
 
What is a Viewport ?
 
2:17 PM
@Zirak, of course it makes more sense from math point of view but I am too used to it to be assignment
 
I want to find a better assignment operator. I thought of =>, but @Raynos stoned me (and it is a bit too much to type for something so widespreak), so looking for something else.
Alternatively, <=> could mean comparison ;)
 
@Zirak whats wrong with = assignment and === equality check
 
What is a viewport?
 
@Raynos See previous messages
 
a port through which is a view
 
2:21 PM
Huh?
 
Also, === is weird. I don't mind it in js or php because it's already there, but given the option, I'd replace it.
 
it's good is google ;)
 
@Zirak i like it for equivelance
it jiffies with my math
 
If I want to answer the second question with V8.. what do I pick
 
@FrankAstin I don't understand that
 
2:24 PM
I know node.js is v8 but it's not exactly the same thing and I don't code in node.js at all
 
@FrankAstin A viewport in JavaScript, what is that?
 
I don't. == for equality weirds me out all-ready. It just looks...a bit perverted to me.
@Hyperion The area you're currently viewing.
 
@FrankAstin Is it just something that you see on screen? Such as a panel?
 
So, then you can have multiple viewports then?
 
2:26 PM
smiling retards on wikipedia need to go AWAY
a viewport in JS, is a terminal, or a browser window
or a console
viewport is an extremely vague term, meaning something with which you view shit
if you understand english, you understand what it means
 
@Hyperion in which context did you hear about it?
 
Sencha touch
 
@Hyperion as @FrankAstin linked, it is merely the viewable section of anything
in the case of that post, it means the part of the browser window you can view right now
make your browser window small, and your viewport is small. make your browser window large and your viewport is large
make sense?
 
okok
yes
 
> ASP.NET MVC, software design pattern
What a horrible phrase
 
2:32 PM
acronymitis
 
Do you think given enough time jQuery criticique will find something to complain about for each jQuery method ?
I think that would be great success
 
so I got an email last night from someone whos "seen me around the net" they needed help with a jQuery issue :?
 
lol
 
I wish they were in the US maybe could get some potential work out of it
 
The itsy bitsy spider uses jQuery?
 
2:42 PM
they are from the Netherlands though
 
Heh.
 
Someone who recommends how to learn Sencha Touch? I found the Sencha Touch in Action book
But are every chapter done? manning.com/garcia2
 
I don't know anything about Sencha, sorry
 
You guys see that Bastion (pretty fun game) has been ported to Google nacl
 
ahh
pretty cool, been dreaming of FPS cloud based games for years
 
2:52 PM
yeah would be cool
itll happen not too long from now
 
came across what looks like an interesting question which was closed because the OP has an attitude problem (see comments). I've attempted to rescue it but still need reopen votes :
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Q: outerHeight() returning a value that is less than height()

puchuIn IE, outerHeight seems to returns a value less than height(). How is that possible? Take the following example: http://jsfiddle.net/BcckX/ <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin-top: -100px;"> <tbody> <tr id="ftw"> <td style="width: ...

 
@Loktar pretty damn epic
@ShawnChin pretty funny guy :D
 
It wont launch the game
 
THERE IS NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE IN IE!!! lol
@ThomasBlobaum oh I didnt even try it, is it free to play?
I assumed youd have to pay since the pc vs is like $15
 
correction: unimpossible :D
 
2:57 PM
i was just going to try it
 
Ah is that what he put? Lol I read that and was like wtf?
 
@Loktar demo free
 
bah this laptop's gpu is crap
I get an opengl error
Ill have to try it at home
 
it doesnt work for me :\
probably because I dont support webgl
I need to fix my drivers at some point
 
Mine opens then closes
 
3:00 PM
Question reopened. Thanks chaps! Nothing is "unimpossible" with the great folks on SO ;)
 
And IE @ShawnChin never forget IE! :P
 
LOL
 
You mean, everything is unimpossible.
 
@ThomasBlobaum can i ask you one more question about JQuery?
 
Yes... now please no more
 
3:01 PM
Dammit I just upvoted a comment I intended to flag.
The comments on that question need a bit of a cleanup.
 
it does... comments getting a little out of hand
btw, I've figured out why he's getting that value on IE. He set the includeMargin=true and specified a -ve margin-top
 
Downvoting my answers ehh, @AndyE
 
doesn't seem to affect FF though
 
@ThomasBlobaum I can't understand what i doing wrong. "$('#Systems tbody tr td.number') " returns next array of results : <td class=​"number">​1</td> how to get the value of this container? sry if question so simple, but i realy confused))
 
@AndyE to be honest you are just trolling that guy into becomign illogical and inconsistent
And he is falling for it because he doesnt into English well
 
3:07 PM
Ah well. question deleted now...
 
$('#Systems tbody tr td.number').eq(2).text()
 
@ThomasBlobaum don't take it personally. I don't agree with what you said. I didn't troll him at all. I asked him to clarify something, he did, it contradicted what was already said.
You said that the question wasn't an honest representation of what happened, which I disagreed with and explained why in the comments.
 
You became close to reasonable, he came to greet you, you then turned and ran back to unreasonable, and used his coming close to your position against him. Pretty common.
 
what are you guys talking about
@ShawnChin you can always undelete :D
 
no, i said that "moving casual chat messages to the Casual Chat room" statement was not a representation of what happened
 
3:11 PM
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A: Should off-topic chat messages be moved to more suitable chat rooms?

Thomas Blobaum insisting that I should not be moving casual chat messages to the Casual Chat room. Instead, apparently I should have moved the messages to one of the (many?) "bin" rooms. Uhh. I'm not sure I understand this reasoning. Me neither. And the reason is because that is not an honest descri...

@Raynos ^
 
Moreso it is a conclusion that you have drawn, and in fact represented the argument at hand
 
@Raynos I wish I could.. I can't even see the darn thing! (need 7 more reps ;))
 
oh not this again
 
@ThomasBlobaum let's not get into this again
Let's just say we disagree, and you're a troll ;)
 
I was just pointing out that the defendant was drawing conclusions.. no more need to be said
:P
 
3:13 PM
you're all trolls
 
Totally trolling. Its not even my argument, and i didnt care. Just wanted to play the judge
 
Sid
Hi all, I want reload a page based on what option a user selects from a radio input, I'm keeping the link in a custom attribute within each radio input.
 
No, I'm an ogre.
 
I'm a shrek
 
Sid
anyone please?
 
3:14 PM
@Sid having trouble finishing your thought
 
Sid you using libraries?
 
Sid
jQuery
 
location.href = location.href + '&option=' + radioValue;
 
Sid
here is what i have so far, pastebin.com/TcQpVhrq
how do i get the attribute data_href of the selected input?
 
@Sid $('input').attr("href");
 
3:18 PM
@Zirak why would you not use location.search?
 
attr("data_href")*
 
@AndyE A fine point
 
location.href = 'naughty_url';
 
@Raynos complaint about you lol:
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Q: User behavior in chat

PurmouI've been participating in the SO chats for some time now, primarily to improve my coding in a more active community. Some of the users in chat act very boorish towards me when my code isn't exactly up to standards. I'm talking about outright insults. There are a few specific people that make st...

 
Sid
@rickyduck do i need to give my inputs the same id?
 
3:19 PM
@rickyduck don't use .attr use [0].href
 
@Neal yeah we were talking about that earlier
 
@Raynos it's 'data_href'
 
oops gtg gonna be late for kids
 
bye
 
lol
 
3:20 PM
@sid no
 
Sid
@rickyduck apologies for my ignorance, so how would i narrow the selector down to between those two inputs?
here is my javascript function pastebin.com/5wKURAzU
but doesn't work
 
@Neal That's actually directed more towards @teresko
(He says so in the comments)
 
he's 14 years old =) didn't see that one coming
 
@jAndy oath you wanted a promise/futures library :)
 
Sid
3:32 PM
@Esailija thanks for that snippet. i want it to log 'data_href' if that option is selected.
 
@Esailija Ooh. I used to be so happy I was the youngest one in the room. No more. :/
 
@Neal I don't care o/
 
Sid
Currently when the page loads the first radio input's data_href is logged to the console, if i select the the other radio input i want it to log the data_href for that input to the console...
 
@Sid use .change(callback)
 
3:34 PM
and try to do it yourself, it's how you'll improve ;)
 
@Raynos ha
 
Sid
@Guillaume86 ok thanks dude.
 
hmm ok Im implementing effects for changing game states, should I tie the enter/exit effect to the state object itself, or declare them when switching states?
 
@Loktar you have a game object with state, it emits events which mark the change of state
You have some kind of ViewModel thing which listens on a game object and draws the changes to the screen accordingly to game state change
Standard reactive model
 
3:51 PM
heh yeah mines kind of crazy :?
I just have a render list pretty much per state
 
where is teresko from?
 
@ThomasBlobaum why you no read his profile
 
well actually nm mine is setup very similiar to what you mention
 
haha, Riga
I KNEW he was from some country liek latvia or estonia
 
my question basically is, should state changes be tied to a state, or defined every state change
 
3:53 PM
@ThomasBlobaum How?
 
either his name or his demeanor or some combination of american bashing and inferiority complex
 
Hmm
 
something unique about people from those countries that you can just sense
 
I think he's the only one from there I've spoken to, so I don't know
 
@Loktar it depends on the architecture and what the state change is
 
3:57 PM
ive spoken to many
 
@Loktar basically too vague to be able to give input
 
yeah :?
I think ill just let the user define them on the state changes
makes it more custom
basically im asking if every state has like a static enter/exit transition defined, or if the user defines exit/enter transition only on state changes
 
fucking rage when someone makes exact duplicate of your answer and gets upvotes
FFFFFFFFuuu
 
@Esailija haha yeah
usually that happens through progressive enhancement
 
hi friends
I'm new to this chat room
but I've been using STACKOVERFLOW for several months
 
4:00 PM
We know
 
what are the rules for this chat room?
can I ask my JS questions here?
 
remove -s from question and yes :P
joking of course.
 
@Raynos 400 points a day? wtf?
 
@ThomasBlobaum ?
 
Yeah, just not huge chunks of code. They tend to be ignored.
 
4:02 PM
ok thanks
 
@AlidotNet you can try
 
You know what I'm talking about.
 
I'll come again, I just love this site
how can I use JQuery?
is it related to this room?
 
@ThomasBlobaum I dont have 400 rep per day
@AlidotNet jQuery is a javascript library
 
Pretty close.
 
4:03 PM
I know, but how can I use it? should I add any file to my project?
 
@ThomasBlobaum 73 rep per day
 
I use VS2010 and C# to develop ASP.NET
 
@AlidotNet you use by loading it into the page, by method of choice
 
lmao i gots to troll with wikipedia stackoverflow.com/questions/8448150/…
 
ok thanks friends
 
4:04 PM
@AlidotNet if you dont know how to include javascript in page you have a lot to learn
 
I know how to use JS
 
and after that, you have A LOT more to learn!
 
I've used it several times, I just want to know more about JQuery
 
410
yesterday
 
23 yesterday
 
4:05 PM
ok thanks, I'll come here in the near future to learn more about JS
 
What are you talking about?
 
thanks dear friends
 
Your profile...
 
410 what?
y u trollin'
 
units
 
4:07 PM
units of what?
 
units of numbers in your profile
 
...
 
its right in your profile
 
that's a number related to his chat activity ?
 
oh that
392 today
 
4:11 PM
wow nice, Im only at 23 per day
figured mine would be higher, but im never here on weekends I guess
 
61,151 all time messages
 
I'm at 8 for today. 9 now.
3145 all time
 
61k = 175 page book
ehh
I didnt realize it was chat messages, my Bad
 
Lmao
Wha? What did you think it was, then?
 
Oh no, LOL, that would be if each message were one word
More like a 1,750 page book
Wow
@Raynos you should write books, mang
 
4:16 PM
Hahahaha
Think about how much people normally talk then. Everyone should write books
 
Maybe
I have enough knowledge to write something useful :\ I just cant write
 
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Q: Are JavaScript MVC Frameworks only for 'single-page' apps?

GStoI've been looking into several of the JavaScript MVC Frameworks (Backbone.js, Spine, SproutCore,etc.) and it seems to me that all of these are designed to act as 'single-page' applications. All of the examples I see have an index page that act as a front controller, and use # or #! style URLs for...

 
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Q: ASP.NET MVC receives "null" as a string instead of null

Akash KavaI have something wrong with either json or ASP.NET MVC, I am using ASP.NET MVC and here is what I am sending from the client. NOTE After debugging in Chrome, I am explaining that this is what is passed within javascript, I am not manually setting State to null as it is coming as result from some...

so much rage
 
Yes, you can. Haven't you seen your blog?
 
am back baby
 
4:24 PM
@Raynos Writing tip: "you're" == "you are"
 
@AndyE what's it like being a father?
 
0
Q: Wrap a span around some text in jQuery

Purplefish32What I have : <ul id="myId"> <li> My text <ul> <li>blahblahblah</li> </ul> </li> </ul> What I want : <ul id="myId"> <li> <span>My text</span> <ul class=...

 
lots of "aww that shit is cute" and "aww that shit is gross"
 
The court will understand, right? There's no way I can be guilty for killing him.
 
uh, pretty much yeah.
 
4:27 PM
@Raynos having kids = permanent LAN party!
I have 2 live in TF2 partners now.
 
@Loktar is it actually like that?
 
when they hit a certain age
my 8 year old is cool as hell
 
My kids are way too smart. My 18 month old son rearranges my iPhone icons :-\
 
hes got his own pc in my computer room now
 
awh, thats gonna change when he hits 12-14
age 5-10 for boys is the best for a dad, or so i'm told
 
4:28 PM
idk, I mean yeah he wont think Im that cool probably...which is crazy imo
because im pretty awesome
 
Lmao. Don't worry. I'm 15 and I still think my dad's pretty cool
 
I mean if my dad had over 1000 pc games, I would worship him.
having kids is fun, only crappy part is the added responsibility
like I can't just quit my job today if I wanted
(which I do want to)
 
@Loktar :(
@Loktar find a better job, then quit
 
yeah Im going to start looking in Jan
right after the Christmas season
Its mainly my coworkers.. one told a story today of how her husband put a huge stick across the road to make some kid on a motorized scooter wipe out, and she thought it was hilarious... and I just think to myself "Oh God what kind of people am I working with!"
 
4:35 PM
@Loktar falcon punch?
That would teach her right.
 
LOL I wish man
 
@Neal: I'm impressed by your palindromic meta name.
 
starts to get even better halfway through :)
 
@AndyE haha thanks ^_^ it is awesome :-D
 
At first I thought that it was supposed to be read backwards because of the capitalization and spaces, then I realized it's the same both ways lol
 
4:46 PM
Does flash cs5 export to canvas?
 
user1385191
I don't think so
 
user1385191
and you don't want that auto-generated crap anyways
 
I thought cs5 had an "html5" option or something like that
and yeah I totally agree.. I wonder what the converted code looks like.
 
I didn't think it did but I saw this google.co.uk/…
 
@Loktar: probably similar to Dreamweaver's auto generated HTML/JavaScript (horrendous)
4
 
4:50 PM
yeah thats what I was thinking of as well
heh.. with the awesome js preloading funcs for button rollovers :P
 

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