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user1385191
5:00 PM
using an id or name of "submit" is also inadvisable
 
user1385191
when used inside of a form, it overrides the submit method of the form
 
What?
You mean we can't use the submit type? or onSubmit?
 
I understand now, thanks
 
yes but i think Zirak´s version is easier to understand than Matt+s
 
Do you guys know any reference for javascript that is as fast as (instacss.com) and as rich as (developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript)???
 
it does nothing
 
user1385191
I should really put that ECMA 262-5 site in the JS tag wiki
 
@Matt Now i towkrs!!
 
5:13 PM
@Olli Sometimes I forget things, but didn't we discuss it? These guys gave you pretty solutions, I believe.
 
Yes But I forgot to add OnLoAD METhod
so The script didnt wait page to load
 
oh, sorry, the javascript was cached, I didn't see the new version
 
ok
does javascript prototype have any good function for readonly/disabled? like I would want that already- Right fields would disabled
@alFRed
 
Can I put my question here?
 
@Olli Just use the attrs => $('#inputform').attr('disabled',true)
 
user1385191
5:26 PM
@Olli form fields have both a disabled and a readonly attribute + property
 
user1385191
@alFReDNSH please don't ever recommend jQuery's broken attr method
 
@RahulSingh I don't see any reason that you can't, try it and see if it works or not
 
user1385191
<input disabled name="foo" type="text" value="placeholder">
 
@MattMcDonald So what should I do instead for something like that?
 
user1385191
<input name="foo" readonly type="text" value="placeholder">
 
user1385191
5:27 PM
form.elements.foo.disabled = true;
 
user1385191
form.elements.foo.readonly = true;
 
user1385191
each form field has properties you can (and should) use
 
Well how can I use it with JQuery? I mean if I use selectors
 
user1385191
you use $.get()
 
user1385191
and get the real element
 
5:30 PM
I see
 
user1385191
$(magic).get().disabled = false;
 
user1385191
$(magic).get().readonly = false;
 
Doesn't work!
 
user1385191
...
 
Works with attr
 
user1385191
5:32 PM
post your demo
 
Maybe I'm using it in the wrong place(I'm trying it on Jquery website, search box)
 
@alfred thanks
Actaully I am usign autocomplete list
on my page
my issue is value skips if I input any other text suggested by suggestion list
I have put it as question with code... Please help me out.
 
user1385191
works fine for me
 
I tried to add disabled part
 
user1385191
oh, it's get()[0]
 
5:40 PM
but does not work
 
user1385191
stupid jQuery
 
Could you @Matt have a look @ it
 
or @alFRed ?
 
Works now! As of stupidity, definitely!
 
5:41 PM
could you see my page
 
Are you people discussing for my question?
 
it disabled 2nd field,but not 1nd field
Oh put it in wrong plc
 
Please help with this question
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Q: Suggestion list on text box skip values

Rahul SinghI have added a suggestion list to my text box. With my script I am getting suggestion, But on blur if text is type other than suggested list it removed from my text box and value becomes blank of text box. <input name="poetname" type="text" id="poetname" maxlength="80" onkeyup="lookup(th...

 
@RahulSingh Can you put it in jsfiddle.net
 
@alFReD koti.mbnet.fi/ollins/muuta/jquery/exercise.php could you help. I want that when I ´ve typed right answer it automastically jumps next field
how can I get next field ID
 
5:49 PM
alfred How can I put it in jsfiddle
whn I am getting input from one more file
rpc.php
 
@RahulSingh Just make a mockup, just an example how it works
Well you should put the check in onkeyup
Then in the if blcok use $('nextBox').fucos()
 
@alFred could you pls look my case too
 
That was for you!
 
I don't have such proficiency with jquery
got some code from google
n now trying to implement
 
@alFReDNSH For who ?
 
5:56 PM
I think their is some problem with fill function
 
This was for you: Well you should put the check in onkeyup
Then in the if blcok use $('nextBox').fucos()
 
Is anyone in here willing to help me with a problem?
 
user1385191
lol
 
LOL!!!
 
Can we have a banner for the internet... I vote:
 
5:57 PM
Things getting mixed a little bit!
 
I am first in queue with doubts
help me first...
 
@rlemon What is happening here
 
k
@alfrerd
@alfred
could yhou see what swrong now
trhe error message doesnt visible there .Even If I enter error !!1
 
Since I cannot fix
codudl you jelp me A bit ?
 
5:58 PM
okij
 
Olli please wait for while
 
@Matt can help too
 
@sha
 
Couldnt you,@Matt?
 
user1385191
 
5:59 PM
@alFReDNSH well, there are people.. all sitting behind (i imagine) large computer screens.. some are monkeys, some are unicorns (i'll let you guess who).. and we are on this chatroom.. presumably chatting - thats what is happening here
 
@shawn : yes but after half an hour
 
@Matt, I got it solved
Thank you for help
 
@rlemon Thank you for not including me in monkeys or unicorns! :D
 
@MattMcDonald Cannot understand point of this.
 
user1385191
6:00 PM

Olli

JavaScript Problems
 
@Olli It means ...
 
user1385191
please, use that room
 
Hey. Which shall I use for receiving images via a socket? HTTP Requests or HTML5 WebSocket?
 
@Rahul ok
 
6:00 PM
@Matt Why I need to use that room
 
user1385191
this room's getting really messy
 
user1385191
11 messages moved to Olli
 
@Matt why others are allowed to ask questions here,but I´m not
 
This chat isnt helpful today at all
 
user1385191
that chat is flooded with too many questions
 
6:03 PM
@Shawn3131 i think the situation is better today
 
user1385191
moving them to another room means they can get answered
 
than yesterday
@Matt Ok thank you for help
And sorry for inconvience caused
 
If you have a question, a real question, ask it on SO
 
user1385191
the problem is there's 5+ people at once asking questions
 
6:04 PM
but noone is answering
 
@Shawn31313 You, eh, accepted an answer
 
oops.
 
user1385191
and all of them are vague
 
I didnt mean to
 
@MattMcDonald I don't want to create an official policy or rule banning questions
 
6:05 PM
Wait, yes I did.
 
@YiJiang He wasn't on normal mood, unknowingly did that!
 
I gave the wrong post
 
But I don't want this chat room to turn into Android rooms either
 
I hate this chat´s flooding protection
I ´ve never ever never ever seen so bad flood protection
 
6:06 PM
@Olli It's there for a reason
 
but it should have rep limit
 
Please help me with question: stackoverflow.com/questions/8258777/…
 
I like splitting messages in several lines, it´seasier to read
 
user1385191
I don't know what to do, honestly
 
@Shawn31313 You only asked the question one hour ago. (By the way, it's a holiday in the U.S. so there may be somewhat less traffic than usual.) Wait 48 hours and if you still don't have an answer, consider offerring a bounty.
 
user1385191
6:07 PM
if you ask a vague question, it tends to take a long time for people to explain it
 
@MattMcDonald If they are asking a technical question, with no room for debate or anything, or on the other hand, if the question is incredibly vague with no details
Consider binning it
If you haven't realized, almost all Android rooms are locked
 
moohh cowbell
 
@RahulSingh Your question was only asked 3 hours ago, so same thing as I said to Shawn. Also, you only have one tag associated with the question. Consider adding more tags.
 
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Q: Suggestion list on text box skip values

Rahul SinghI have added a suggestion list to my text box. With my script I am getting suggestion, But on blur if text is type other than suggested list it removed from my text box and value becomes blank of text box. <input name="poetname" type="text" id="poetname" maxlength="80" onkeyup="lookup(th...

 
Because previously when they were public, they were flooded with people asking their SO questions in chat
I don't want to lock this room, nor do I want to ban discussions on questions completely
 
6:09 PM
is there any mobile-webkit emulator around?
 
@jAndy What for, exactly?
 
@jAndy The android one works like crap at least.
 
debug purposes obviously
 
Btw did you notice SO change today
in profile pages
 
I can't figure why my script isn't working on droid
 
6:10 PM
@jAndy Tested it for a earlier mobile web project and it was not realiable at all.
 
no error console, no error, no nothing
 
it happened yesterday , @Olli
 
more then 24h ago
 
@teresko K
 
6:11 PM
@jAndy You can access the error console, don't know how by heart though.
 
@Olli Gather up your thoughts, post complete sentences, and you won't hit the limits
 
@jAndy Maybe we should write one!
 
should work on webkit actually
 
user1385191
yeah, I noticed the android rooms were almost utter spam
 
A few things: First, questions should not be repeatedly asked or reposted from SO
 
user1385191
6:12 PM
Uncaught exception: TypeError: 'Object.freeze' is not a function :(
 
where do you see that error ?
 
user1385191
opera 11.52
 
@Matt Was there any point of creating JS room
 
ahh I guess you're not on a mobile webkit anyway :p
 
no one seems answer there
 
6:13 PM
@Olli To, you know, actually talk and chat about JavaScript
 
actually I meant creating my own room
 
Opera 11 does not fully support ES5 ?
 
what @Matt created for me
 
Because if you want your questions answered, I heard there's a very good Q&A site called Stack Overflow for that
 
yes but no one wants help there
 
user1385191
 
Someone should create JS question&answer chat separately from general chat from js
 
user1385191
appears so
 
quick question, anybody here using hook.io in their production system?
 
Writing documentation is fun fun fun.
 
@Matt never ever before had the same problem here?
 
6:15 PM
ok
so how do you debug js errors on mobile webkit :p ?
 
look that for example. Someone gave-3
-4 *
 
@Olli Yes, and?
 
@YiJiang they dont be polite.Because I´m just learning. And they still give -4
for a good question
 
user1385191
that's not a good question
 
user1385191
6:16 PM
that's "here's my code; it doesn't work; fix it;"
 
@Olli You threw in a lot of code with very little explaination
You didn't clearly explain your problem
 
Yes but I dont need to explanate it, Since there are people who can understand code wthout explanation
But thats still not readson for -4
 
@Olli Why force people to guess when you can explain it?
 
They could simply ask "Could you describe your problem better?"
 
user1385191
or you could explain it yourself
 
6:18 PM
@Olli Because you are expected to, when asking a question, consider what is necessary information for others to help you
 
ok.I´ll try to explain better next time
 
@RobinAndersson: nice, thanks
 
btw,Finnish programming sites are more friendly for beginners
 
Read the tooltip on the downvote button - "This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful"
 
user1385191
if I have a book store and there's a giant squid for a sign with no windows, I shouldn't expect people to know it's a book store
 
6:19 PM
Four people thought your question fit that description
And to be fair, so do we
 
Yes but thats not friendly for a beginner
 
@Olli There are a lot of programming forums and so on that are more suitable when you are new to programming, the Q&A format and the requirements it have often don't work well with newbies.
 
@Olli SO isn't exactly the right place to learn programming
 
@Olli The reason is basically that a newbie don't know how to ask the question properly, it comes with time.
 
user1385191
I've seen the types of questions you ask on newsgroups, and it's close to the same reception
 
6:21 PM
@YiJiang or asking others to add features or debug the code
 
And yes, you'd probably need some actual experience to understand what makes a good question
 
@Matt ,I dont use newsgroups
 
user1385191
no, but they're probably the most professional platform I know of for programming advice
 
what site are you referring btw
 
user1385191
newgroups aren't "a site" per se, they're data on many servers
 
6:24 PM
Ok could you link one
 
I can't stop forgetting the guy said about monkeys and unicorns!
forgetting the thing*
 
@alFReDNSH You can edit your messages here, you know. Just hit the up key to edit your last message.
 
@YiJiang Whistling!
 
@YiJiang, i think its easier to just write correction*
 
@Olli You can always check net.tutsplus.com , they usually have a lot newbie friendly guides for kind of modern techniques.
 
6:25 PM
@Olli It's harder for people to read. Its messy, its clumsy. Writing *correction is a hack, so to speak
 
@YiJiang k
@Robin thx,but it seems to be paid service
 
user1385191
for JS noobs, I'd recommend this:
 
@Olli Only a few tutorials are.
 
@Olli Most tutorials are free
 
6:26 PM
ok
I think Finnish resources are more clear than English ones
use google translate
 
@MattMcDonald: typeofnan.com
@MattMcDonald: freeze should be known by now ?
 
user1385191
of course, you're finnish
 
user1385191
@jAndy it sends me a cheeky alert
 
Do you claim that I´m cheecky
 
I guess that is how it should be then
 
user1385191
6:28 PM
looks nice in Chrome
 
chrome/safari yes, AND actually any mobile webkit
 
@Trott, i know its holiday's in the US. I am in the US.
 
so I need to grab that droid debugger
 
@MattMcDonald Thank you for correction
Finns are not cheecky
some other Natrionalities are
 
Let's hope this doesn't get invoked too often, but a simple rule here: If there is a question been discussed in here that is technical, and is of limited interest to the others in the room, and there is another conversation thread going on, the discussion about the question should be moved to another room
 
user1385191
6:30 PM
@Olli you may find this helpful:
 
user1385191
 
To keep things sane in here, and not turn into the Android chatroom level of messiness
 
user1385191
(search "javascript")
 
@MattMcDonald who did you mean thsi
@YiJiang someone may not want to switch room for chat
just general chat
 
@Olli General chat is general. If nobody else in the room cares about your question, move.
 
6:32 PM
@Olli problem? troll
 
@MattMcDonald: how do you like the intruder unicorn ? :P
 
Why can't people keep their EC2 images up to date -.-
Dealing with a 5 year old centos installation >_>
 
@IvoWetzel: hola
 
@Matt can you also program php
 
@IvoWetzel WOW, JUST WOW!!!
 
6:33 PM
since I have built web shop with php
 
@jAndy Hey there :)
 
@IvoWetzel As if CentOS isn't out-of-date enough already. :D
2
 
and i think you wouldnt´like the code
 
@IvoWetzel Eh, is EC2 even that old?
 
@alFReDNSH heya! :)
 
6:34 PM
@YiJiang Dunno, at least the installed CentOS is
but the real fun begins when you need couchdb >_>
 
user1385191
I can't see the unicorn in chrome
 
yum gives you 0(!).11
current is 1.2 :(
 
@MattMcDonald: the unicorn welcomes you in the page source
 
@Matt I accidenttally hidden one user messages
how can i get em back
 
this thing has more dependencies then everything else I have ever tried to install
 
6:35 PM
I had the problem with couchDB! not really relaxing!
 
Spidermonkey, Erlang, Ruby, Perl... gotta install all by hand
best is the broken makefile xD
 
@alFreDNSH on EC2?
 
user1385191
ha
 
I'm going home now, enough office for today. And then I will try that droid webkit debug thing.. I guess it'll drive me crazy yeeehhaaaa I love it already
later folks
 
cloning the couchdb git, patching the configure file that was generated and before that I've got 45 minutes of compiling for the deps >_> sooo fun
@jAndy Later
 
6:36 PM
@RubenTan yeah, you should remember though...
 
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1947567#1947567
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1947567#1947568
 
Just because nobody in IT has a newer image at hand :(
 
@alFReDNSH I thought you had more problems after that. :P
 
Hello could someone help me out with a window Change event question? I've seen some posts here on SO, but I'm having trouble making it work with jqGrid
I'm using jqGrid for PHP, and I would like for the grid to re-size when the window resizes
 
@RubenTan Well thanks to the Russian guy it was fixed, it was becoming a nightmare for me! :D
Can we have another room for DOM related JS?
 
6:39 PM
And leave this one for general javascript?
 
exactly...
Being honest, since I don't spend much time on front-end, these question are kinda annoying! Though like the room at times...
 
There's a room for node.js, but it's pretty quiet there...
 
Why not just talk about it here? Unless you want a language agnostic room about the DOM API
 
Are you referring to my question? I figured it was a general JS question to be honest.
 
Which I don't think will do too well
 
6:44 PM
@Evan The phrase "window change" made me think of that... though I didn't read your question carefully...
 
alright, well I will take it somewhere else I suppose
 
@Evan You don't have to actually... As long as I'm not the owner here!
 
@Evan what exactly is the problem with the change event?
 
waiting for @JamundFerguson
 
What is this chat craziness?
 
6:57 PM
Nothn, just wanted to ask a few question, since I actually found someone who tried Node.js
is i.tv built entirely on Node.js?
 
The website uses node.js completely. But our iPhone App also powers it's API with node.js and we power part of AOLTV.com.
 
great. Could that also be the reason why the images are too slow to load?
I mean, the page loaded pretty quickly, it's been a minute, but all the images are yet to load.
 
haha no. the images are slow are on CDN, but we didn't bother resizing them properly for the web (it's not really our main platform, yt).
the shows page loads too many images (it's design flaw) and they're all pretty big, so they're slow
 
okay, coming to the point, now.
 

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